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0 Subject: RIBC 2006: draft discussion

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Tue, Mar 07, 2006, 17:40

The draft will be activated shortly, although the clock will not be turned on until Friday, March 10.

Starting on Friday morning, we will institute a 6 hour clock. The clock will pause between 11pm and 7am ET. If you time out, the draft will move on. Skipped picks can be made up at any time thererafter.

If your turn arises and you still have an outstanding skipped pick, I will probably move the draft on to the next picker. If we get well ahead of pace, I may relax that stance. But hopefully it will not become an issue. This also means that people on the turn have a single clock period to make their first pick, or both will be skipped.

Although the clock will be set at 6 hours, we cannot make satisfactory progress if many managers use much of that allowance. We need to average a little more than one round per day, so please do your best to keep up the pace. If we fall behind, managers who are chronically slow may be put on an shorter clock.

We will use this thread for logistical communications, to help others anticipate potential delays, to recruit someone to accept a queue, to announce or solicit trades, to coordinate changes in the clock for weekends, etc. Please check this thread regularly throughout the draft, as we will rely on it as the primary means of communication among RIBC managers.

Established draft etiquette is that no undrafted player names should be mentioned either here or in the rationale threads, and in the event of an infraction, should be edited out.

After two rounds have been completed, a separate draft rationale thread will be started. We will try to keep that thread on a 2 round lag. Therefore, after you make your pick in round 3, please immediately post your round 1 pick rationale, and so forth. I usually draft my rationales as I make picks, so that all I need to do when the time comes is copy and paste. I recommend that approach for everyone.
1Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 07, 2006, 17:42
I should add that you may draft a player even if he is not currently listed on Yahoo. In that event, you will have the first rights to claim that player when he is listed, as long as you preserve that roster slot for him.

Once the draft is completed, you will no longer be able to protect a slot for any unlisted player. At that point, unlisted players will only be available through the standard waiver/free agent process.
2Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 07, 2006, 17:44
Here are our league settings:

Teams: 16
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Player Universe: All baseball
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 1
Trade End Date: August 27, 2006
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: None
Trade Review: Commissioner
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 162
Max Innings Pitched: 1350
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Sunday, Apr 2

Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN

Stat Categories: R, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP
3Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 07, 2006, 17:46
Draft order:
1 Holt
2 Toral
3 Kafenatid.net (KKB)
4 mMoses
5 Chris
6 Guru
7 JeffG
8 MC & TB
9 Dave R
10 I_AM_CANADIAN
11 jumpball
12 Athletics Guy
13 Blue Hen
14 Trip
15 Hubble
16 CanEHdian Pride
4Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 07, 2006, 22:04
I just activated the draft. Holt may make his pick whenever he wishes.

Here is the link to see the updated draft in both sequential and grid format:
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/kpeek.pl?76
5Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Tue, Mar 07, 2006, 22:10
The buildup for this has been so long and drawn-our that I've forgotten about this league. 7 Slavic countries have changed dictators since I was ready to go. Remind me how to go to kkb's site to draft.

Toral
6Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 07, 2006, 22:13
click here to draft
7holt
      ID: 491122318
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 02:36
I'll see if I can do it right.
there appears to be only one box to enter the pick, rather than 1 box each for name, pos, and team.
8holt
      ID: 491122318
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 02:36
ah I see. you enter the name, click search, then pick the position.
9Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 06:30
OK, I did my duty. Fred's up.
10Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 09:12
If anyone picking after #6 wants to swap picks with me for the first two rounds, this would be a good time to express that interest.
11JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 11:04
I'll be in meetings from about 11:30 AM to around 2:00 PM Eastern Time. Will make my queue for 1.07 available for the commish Guru, who right now still picks right before me.
12Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 11:33
KKB, I see that the queue/designated picker process has been enhanced. Can you elaborate on the changes?

In particular, if someone is set up as a designated picker, when and how can they access the queue? Is it solely via email, as before? Or is the queue now available at the draft site? If so, is it always viewable by the DP, or only when the queuer's pick is due?
13blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 12:03
There are two managers who offered me to trade slots for the first two rounds. I have to reject them both. I am quite happy with #13.
14KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 12:11
Guru, you are correct, it has been enhanced quite a bit. Here's the details...

QUEUE MANAGEMENT
Queue Management now serves a dual purpose. It gives you a way to line up players you want, but this can be done both for your own purposes (a cheat sheet) and for your Designated Pickers. All you have to do to add players to your queue is go to Queue Management, find the player in the list of names, and add them. After you have added players, you can arrange them using the "Move Up" and "Move Down" links for each player.

There are NO more emails sent out for queues! Everything is handled through the On the Clock system now.

DESIGNATED PICKERS
Designated Pickers will no longer receive email queues. A manager's queue will now be stored in the On the Clock system and displayed as a list drop-down instead of the "Player Name" search box for their Designated Pickers and the draft admin.

However, Designated Pickers will only have access to a manager's queue if the manager makes the queue "Available." You could very well be set up as a Designated Picker for someone and if they do not have a queue or do not make it "Available," you won't have the list of players to work from. If a manager's queue is "Unavailable," it is the equivalent of them storing a cheat sheet in the system. The list will be available to them, but not to their Designated Pickers, nor the draft admin.

AVAILABLE/UNAVAILABLE
As I said above, if your queue is "Available," then your designated pickers and the draft admin will see your queue list instead of the player search box when it's your turn to pick.

If your queue is "Unavailable," your designated pickers and the draft admin WILL NOT be able to see your queue.
15Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 12:13
But even if you make it "available", it will only be viewable by your deisnated pickers when it is your turn to pick?
16KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 12:50
But even if you make it "available", it will only be viewable by your deisnated pickers when it is your turn to pick?

Yes. And to you, the draft admin.
17GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 13:38
To butt in for a second.
I'm trying to get all the managers in RIBC AAA International to get familiar with it and use it.
It is now a great tool.
Just takes a little for everybody to figure out how to use it best.

And the Available / Unavailable function makes it a great way to store you cheatsheet as Fred said.

Cliff

18JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 13:48
I'm back. I'll still leave my queue for 1.07 as 'available' so Guru can feel free to check out what happens when my pick comes up. So Guru, please feel free to execute my selection after you make yours.

I'm in a league with office mates from around the country, and this queue feature on OTC is AWESOME. Our company draft never moved this swiftly given all the inherent time zone hassles. Echoing what was said several times already, even when you set up a queue and make it 'unavailable', it is a great place to store and tweak your draft list while you wait until your pick comes up.
19JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 14:00
[13] from blue hen: There are two managers who offered me to trade slots for the first two rounds. I have to reject them both. I am quite happy with #13.

Wasn't blue hen the last one to select a draft position so he ended up with what was left? ;)

(Before someone corrects me - I know, that we select our positions for the entire draft, and wanting that position for rounds 1-2 is different than having it the whole draft).
20Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 15:10
For those who like to compare, here are the OTC draft results in progress for each of the RIBC leagues:

RIBC

AAA International
AAA Pacific

AA Mudcats
AA Sally
AA Eastern
21Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 16:13
JeffG - I got your latest GuruPatron conrtibution. Thanks.

I tried to send an email acknowledgement, but it bounced back to me saying "mailbox unavailable".
22KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 16:36
I tried to send an email acknowledgement, but it bounced back to me saying "mailbox unavailable".

It seems PayPal has his email with a "." in the middle of it instead of the required "_". I had the same issue the other night with his OTC payment. Just replace the "." with a "_" in the part before the @ and it should make it.

Just an FYI. :)
23 JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 17:05
Yup. My typo. The email linked to my name in this post is the one you all should have. I have another (family and close friends only) email address with the 'dot' at a different domain. My hotmail addy is the public one I use for all online purchases and more public correspondences has the 'underscore'. Haven't used paypal in a while and was wondering why it did not remember me ;)

Hotmail did not like dots in email addresses, most of the others do. I try to be consistent.

Sorry for any confusion.
24blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 17:18
Oh man, I really want Jeff G's other email address now.

And Jeff, you're right. I had last pick of picks. How did I get so lucky.
25 Chris
      ID: 1410141221
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 20:33
I'm contemplating trading down my pick. If anybody would like to make an offer, I'm open.
26CanEHdian Pride
      ID: 161101820
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 06:05
KKB - Just a thought -- is there any way to indicate on the home page if a player has a queue set? I think this would be an interesting modification so that the people drafting can gauge how quickly things may go based on those on autopick status --

Thanks,
Phil
27KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 08:22
There is no "autopick status," so showing that someone has a queue might be a bit misleading. Even if someone has a queue, a person (the manager, a designated picker, or the admin) still needs to make the actual pick.
28Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 11:07
Chris - unless you have something in the works, it doesn't appear that there is much interest in swapping 1st round picks. I certainly haven't gotten any nibbles to my request posted more than 24 hours ago, and for obvious reasons.
29Chris
      ID: 1410141221
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 11:51
Very true, but figured I'd give it over night to see if somebody wanted Vlad. Leave it to KKB to throw a wrench in my draft again :)
30KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 14:58
Leave it to KKB to throw a wrench in my draft again :)

I stick to what I'm good at. ;)
31Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 15:14
When I opted for the 6th pick, I had an outside hope that Santana would slide that far - although I knew it was a long shot. But when Chris took the 5th pick, I abandoned all hope of that.
32blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 15:45
What are you trying to say? Is that some sort of compliment to Chris?
33Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 16:16
I talked to TB just now, and we have decided to take

SS Miguel Tejada BAL
34Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 16:20
Tejada pick entered.

re [31]: Last year, Chris picked #6, took Santana, and rode him to the league title. When he selected the 5th slot (1-4 and 6 were already gone), I figured he was after Santana once again. Sounds like I was right.

If it ain't broke...
35blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 16:34
Nice. Good call.
36Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 17:43
So far, we're on pace to finish on May 19.

Tomorrow, the 6-hour clock is turned on. And unless we can pick up the pace, I'll have to shorten the clock.

We need to average about 20 picks per day.
37blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 19:40
I left a 1-man queue in my queue. I'll try to figure out how to leave it open. If he goes, I'll be back tomorrow morning at about 10. Or someone send me a txt message if you have the number but I won't be near a computer.
38 JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 19:55
Queues are the way to go. Anyone who is 4 or less picks away should consider posting their very short queue on the draft site and making it available for a desinated picker.

Another alternative is I'll be glad to help out anyone who needs it. For those who want to arrange something, I can send out text messages when your pick is up and list the last x players taken. Then I can get the text back with the pick, and either post it here for Guru to execute, or if you select me as a designated picker, I can process the selection myself.
39JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 19:58
My txt address is jeffg.ny@vtext.com, or Verizon customers can text to jeffg.ny
40jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 23:25
My apologies for contributing to the May 19 estimate (#36) which is probably into June by now . . . when I was able to check today just before a lunch meeting, there was only 4 picks made -- too early to put a queue together for the 11th pick.

I wonder if I would have even thought to put Ortiz in the queue at that point, since I expected him to be long gone before 11?
:-)
41Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 09, 2006, 23:32
Only May 26.

I was also surprised to see Ortiz still available at 11.
42JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 07:07
For blue hen from text message:

1.13 Todd Helton, 1B, Col

I am not set up as his designated picker so I cannot post it on kaffenatid.

Trip is 'on the clock'.
43Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 09:03
Everyone is currently a dp for me. I don't have kafenatid access at work and will just post my picks here.

I select
1.14 - Carl Crawford, OF, TB
44Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 09:10
both picks made
45Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 09:16
Just for the record (and I think this was clear already), I cannot access Kafenatid from around 8 EST until about 5. TB can, I think, but he's not always around. So I will just post our picks in here if I am unable to make them on the draft site itself.

My cell number is 617-230-8993 if anyone thinks contacting me will be necessary. I somehow doubt that. We ought to be able to handle picking since there are 2 of us and we are pretty much in constant contact.
46Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 10:56
I'm seeing a one person queue for CEHP. He left no instructions. But since there is only one name there, I assume it does me no good to make that selection for him, since we would still have to wait for the next pick, which comes immediately after.

KKB - am I correct that if only one name appears in the queue window for pick 16, then there will be nothing there for pick 17?
47Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 13:27
Everyone is currently a dp for me. I don't have kafenatid access at work and will just post my picks here.

Please select
2.03 - Derrek Lee, 1B, CHN
for me.
48JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 13:28
Done.
49Hubble
      ID: 01212716
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 13:29
My mailbox tells me i should have a Q for trip... but i cant find it on OTC... where should i look? Out of curiousity... where would u guys ranking Beltran? u can wait until later to say so. i just feel like i reached a little :)
50KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 13:40
KKB - am I correct that if only one name appears in the queue window for pick 16, then there will be nothing there for pick 17?

For future reference, this is true.

My mailbox tells me i should have a Q for trip... but i cant find it on OTC

Keyword there is "should." If it's not there, then there's no queue available.
51Hubble
      ID: 01212716
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 13:48
i didnt see trip's post #47... so i figured so :)
52jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 14:02
There is a 3 person queue available to the Admin for my 2.06 pick.

I'm getting email noticiation as a DP for trip too. Can we turn that off since we're not going to be using it?
53JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 14:05
txt message from blue hen

2.04 Adam Dunn, OF, Cin

54Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 14:06
We are using it. But since you are incommunicado at the same time that Trip is, he could simply take you off his DP list.

He just set up everyone as a DP.
55Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 14:08
BTW, our projected finish has moved all the way up to April 26!
56JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 14:13
[49-Hubble] ...where would u guys ranking Beltran? u can wait until later to say so. i just feel like i reached a little :)

Hubble, you ran away with AAA last year, who are we to second guess?
57Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 15:10
I like Beltran to do better than he did last year. That makes him close to if not definitely a first rounder.
58blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 15:20
Not a big fan of Beltran this year. I don't think adjusting to New York was the entire reason he struggled. I think he overachieved in Houston. And his steals aren't exactly going up, I would think.

It's very, very early, but I have to say that I expect a fun season with Helton and Dunn on board. Right where I wanted to be at this point.
59KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 15:25
I'm getting email noticiation as a DP for trip too. Can we turn that off since we're not going to be using it?

jumpball, just go to the Designated Pickers section and "refuse" the assignment as one of Trip's DPs.
60KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 15:27
I didn't have Beltran ranked quite that high, but I wouldn't call it a major stretch (not by my sheet, at least). Put it this way, I wouldn't view it as any more of a stretch than my pick of Santana at #3.
61TB
      ID: 37373017
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 17:03
I like the Beltran pick. If he was still around when we got to pick, I would have begged MC to let us get him. Then again, that's true of everyone who has been taken so far.
62GolfFreak
      Leader
      ID: 01730209
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 17:28
What would you guys do if with the 5th over all pick. Yes in the 1st round someoe takes Hudson,T?
Would you just keep going?
Would you just look at the pick and go what the &$*@($?
Would you take a vote and ask IF you want that type of manager in your league?
Please post comments here. Thanks
63Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 21:52
I opened the rationale thread, although that should not be started until we get to the start of round 3. Hopefully, that will occur relatively soon.
64Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 23:38
Alert: If you make your queue available, when it is your pick, I will select for you (unless you or another DP beat me to it).

If you don't want someone to pick from your queue, be sure to make it unavailable. By default, I am defined as a designated picker for everyone.
65 Chris
      ID: 1410141221
      Sat, Mar 11, 2006, 03:56
I'm interested in trading down my 3rd round pick, to somebody that has a low 3rd round draft position.

Lemme know if interested.
66Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Sat, Mar 11, 2006, 06:47
1.02 rationale coming up shortly.
67Hubble
      ID: 01212716
      Sat, Mar 11, 2006, 10:45
Trade CHRIS-HUBBLE

Hubble gives: 4.02+6.02+8.02
Chris gives: 3.05+7.05+8.12


68Chris
      ID: 1410141221
      Sat, Mar 11, 2006, 10:46
trade confirmed
69Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Mar 11, 2006, 11:06
Trade processed.
73 Hubble
      ID: 01212716
      Sat, Mar 11, 2006, 18:37
Well... seing the latest developement, i would be willing to trade my 3.15 down... i know i'm up, and i'll wait only 1 hour...
i'd be interested in anything around mid-4th round... u can MSN me at etiennedesmeules@hotmail.com if ur interested.

if no interest, i'll pick at 7:30pm
76blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Sat, Mar 11, 2006, 21:42
I left a 2-man queue available to DPs. Don't think Trip is planning to take the guy at #1. This is only for round 4 - please don't continue to use my queue in round 5.

Rationale for Dunn forthcoming...
80blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 13:21
Helton, Dunn, Gagne, Prior. Very nice. Pretty good squad so far.
81TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 13:27
I agree. Your team is looking good. I was surprised you didnt grab Prior one pick earlier, but absolutely knew you were going to grab him with your 4th. You got some man-love for him and that's okay.
82CanEHdian Pride
      ID: 161101820
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 14:28
KKB - If I make my queue "available" can it be seen by all DPs at any time or only when I am on the clock? Can you clarify.

Thanks,
Phil
84JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 15:38
[82] - cEHp - Only when you are on the clock.
85JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 15:43
My Peavy Rationale should read 2.10 not 2.08, and I spelled Jake wrong. Yikes. Sorry. Perhaps it can be corrected by a moderator.
86TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 15:55
I thought you drafted his twin brother, Jave. ;) It is fixed.
87blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 16:01
Nice one, TB. Actually, as I'll say in my rationale, I knew if I didn't get Prior I'd get one of Randy, Harden, or Felix. But if I didn't get Gagne (or Street, really), the closer pickings were getting pretty slim. Based on what happened after that, looks like I made the right call.

Now Prior just has to have the 25 win, 350 strikeout season we're all expecting...
88Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 16:07
What's the over-under on the date that Prior goes on the DL (for the first time this year)?
89blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 16:27
... spoken boldly by the guy who just drafted Richie Sexson.

This is the third straight year I've had Prior in an RIBC league. Where did I draft him? 6th overall in 2004, 16th overall in 2005, and 52nd overall in 2006.

August 1st?
90Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 16:41
We're now on pace to finish on April 6. Trending in the right direction!
91Motley Crue
      ID: 2192327
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 17:27
We'll only miss 4 days worth of games that way. That's not so bad.

And not like TB and I have any #1 SP's anyway.
92holt
      ID: 491122318
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 18:51
i'll be picking shortly...
93blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 19:25
You know you've got two picks, right Holt?
94holt
      ID: 491122318
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 19:57
yeah - i was having a hard time with that pick. several players I wanted, but I think they were all reaches. I kept entering names in the box but couldn't stand seeing the 5.01 next to them.
95blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 20:06
That's how I pick as well. Man, that 1.13 Albert Pujols, 1B, STL looked real good.
96TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 20:19
LOL, BH.
97Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 20:27
Sorry to "early placeholder" you, holt, but my rationale was prepared and ready to go so I did it. I may not be up that much longer, unless "Desperate Housewives" has a new episode tonight.

Guru can fix it.

Toral
98blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 23:12
We made a lot of progress but definitely seem to have slowed to a halt. See you guys in the morning.
99JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 00:25
Good timing. I was just about to set a 1-man queue, make it available and turn in.
100TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 00:53
We are not going to make our pick until tomorrow morning. It's late and we want to be thinking clearly before pulling the trigger. We are also open to moving down. If anyone is interested in moving up, please shoot me an email before 8am EST.

tbraiders at gmail dot com
103TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 09:30
Trade MC&TB- CanEHdian Pride

MC and TB trade: 5.08, 6.09, and 12.09
CanEHdian Pride trades: 5.16, 6.01, and 11.16
104Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 09:50
Trade entered.
105Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 09:58
I would like to have waited until cEHp posted or emailed trade confirmation, but becuase we are behind schedule, I waited 15 minutes and then went ahead.
106TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 09:58
STOP THE DRAFT

We made the trade with CanEHdian Pride. I just forwarded an email from him to you as well. He would like Paul Konerko. I do not know why I_am_Canadian is making picks.
107TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 10:01
I have got to leave for work. I hope my last post and the email I forwarded help resolve this.
108Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 10:02
Ugh. My fault. Let me fix this.
109Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 10:10
Canadians always mess everything up.

Just look at Terrence and Phillip.
110Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 10:14
Too many Canadians.

I thought I could simply reverse that trade, but those traded picks no longer show up in the draft menu that I have to select from. So I had to punt this issue up to KKB. Hopefully he's around.
112TB
      ID: 37373017
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 11:06
I was wondering if it could be fixed by drafting Konerko for Pride in the current spot and then trading the player to his team. I am thinking that if Dave R says that he wanted the player he got and not the one that IAC got, it should all be good. If so, then we just have to make sure the rest of the draft picks are correctly changed.
113Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 11:18
KKB says he's on the case. SHould be resolved shortly.
114Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 11:21
You know those Canadians - they all look alike, eh?

When all is said and done, cEHp should have Konerko (5.08), IAC should have Carlos Lee (5.10), and MC/TB should have cEHp's 5.16 pick.

Dave R has already confirmed that his pick of Lopez (5.09) is fine.
115Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 11:40
Thanks to KKB for fixing it up. We're back on the clock.
116blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 11:45
Not that it matters much, but I just noticed that Konerko is still in my queue. Normally it takes guys out when they get picked but that probably didn't run this time. That's fine.
117Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 11:47
All of the 6 RIBC-related leagues have now completed the first round. There were 10 players selected in the 1st round of every draft. Here is the consensus order:

Alex Rodriguez (1)
Albert Pujols (2)
Vladimir Guerrero (3-6)
Johan Santana (3-6)
Mark Teixeira (4-5)
Manny Ramirez (6-13)
David Ortiz (5-12)
David Wright (7-13)
Jason Bay (6-14)
Bobby Abreu (7-15)

Numbers in ( ) indicate the earliest and latest pick.
118Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 13:35
I will be out of pocket until 4PM ET. Sorry, but I don't feel comfortable leaving a queue at this point.
126Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 16:17
And the AAA side of the draft(Eh, BH, Hubble & me) from last year breezes through 8 quick picks! Rationale for Furcal posted above to let y'all catch up.
128Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 17:02
Projected completion is all the way up to April 3rd now. Good progress today.
129I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 18:49
3-Player Queue set and ready for whenever AG/Jump get in their picks. Should be back arround 9PM EST to check on the developments, feel free to use my Queue DPs.
131blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 20:47
Is it osmosis? Mach now has 3 Phillies (and 2 Mets).
132mMoses
      ID: 101282818
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 20:50
My queue for these rounds is a little bit short, but I'll be back at 10pm PST in case they run out.

peace,
mMoses
135blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 22:36
Alright guys, I will be traveling tomorrow. I can't even begin to come up with a queue 21 picks away, but I will try to make myself available my cell phone. I have a 5 hour flight, so I will probably not be available at that point. I don't plan to timeout, so feel free to txt me when it's nearing my turn.
136JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 22:54
blue hen. I'll keep you informed and help out. When you depart, let me know what the last pick you recorded was, and I'll pass along all the info via txt. Safe trip, hopefully someplace good. Charge that phone.
137 Chris
      ID: 3710291212
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 23:18
Just got home, and see it is my turn to pick. I am interested in trading down this pick(and trading up some later round picks).

Shoot me an e-mail...if I don't see anything, I will probably pick in about an hour.
138Chris
      ID: 3710291212
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 00:11
Trade:

Chris gives up

6.12, 11.05, 12.12

Athletics Guy gives up

8.05, 9.12, 11.12
139Athletics Guy
      ID: 43219110
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 00:11
confirmed
143Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 08:37
Queue left for next pick, available to Guru and Fred.
150Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 12:35
Trade [138] processed.
151Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 12:40
Good job on keeping up with rationales.

Here are the ones that are the furthest in arrears:
4.04 Mark Prior (Blue Hen)
4.08 Felix Hernandez (Dave R)
5.04 Barry Bonds (mMoses)

152TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 12:43
5.10 Carlos Lee, OF, MIL
This pick had me a little nervous. I waited 12 hours for MC/TB to trade off their pick...


I am not sure if that is supposed to be a jab at us, but 7 of those hours were when the clock was shut off (midnight to 7 am) and a couple more were when the draft was shut down because you picked out of order. Each of us are in different times zones. You should be happy we traded the pick, because Carlos Lee was the guy we planned on taking in this spot.
154JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:04
FYI ALL - blue hen's 7.13 queue has been exhausted.

I believe he lands around 2:30 PM ET. He'll have my txt message as soon as he hits the ground.
155Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:08
TB[152] - for the record, I made that out-of-sequence pick for IAC from his queue.
156Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:10
Also, the draft wasn't shut down because that pick was out of order. The draft was shut down because I processed the trade incorrectly, and I had to get KKB to fix things because there was no "normal" way to do that. So IAC had no role in the shutdown. The shutdown was solely due to my error.
157Chris
      ID: 3710291212
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:16
Looks like bh will land about the time that I have to leave, so I will leave a queue for my 8.02 and 8.05 picks. Any volunteers to be my DP?
158JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:18
Chris. I am never far from a computer and my cell phone beeps me when it is time to pick.
159Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:19
Chris, I'll generally be around until early evening. By default, I'm a DP for everyone.
160Chris
      ID: 3710291212
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:20
excellent, do you mind if I shoot you an e-mail? My picks have conditions to them.
161 JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:20
OK. I'll look for the email.
162TB
      ID: 1286814
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 15:29
Gotcha, Guru. We normally pick fairly quickly. I explained some of it in my yet-to-be-posted rationale, but I will provide a quick break down.

Our plan was to take Carlos Lee, but there were a dozen other players we were comfortable with in that spot as well. We hadn't finalized our plans when the draft made it back to us at 12:30 am. I wanted to confer with my partner before making the pick or a trade, but he already went to bed. I talked with Motley at 8:14 AM CST (our time zone) and posted the trade at 8:30 AM CST. I do not know why I put EST above in post 100, but that mistake could have caused some confusion. By the time we posted the trade we had only used 2 1/2 hours of clock time to make this deal, but I know it messed the rhythm of the draft for the morning. I apologize for that.
163I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 521191210
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 15:44
RE TB (152):
I've competed against MC in the past in several of the RI's and A leagues in the past and have never had an issue with his managerial etiquet. I haven't played many formats against you, nor do I have anything against you, but, I'm pretty sure our 6 hours of aloted time is mainly to become "aware" that we are on the clock, and not for determining our picks so much (This is the impression that Guru has given in the past in concern to why a person who has end picks shouldn't take 2x the established time limit.) So if a manager shows up, and says that they aren't properly preprared to make their pick, and that they'll "sleep on it"...
That said... Yes it was a minor stab; but mainly it was to point out that the amount of time I had to wait on that pick was killing me with anticipation.
164Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 15:53
Our projected completion date is all the way up to April 1.

I'm still hopeful that we can finish by March 29. I will be leaving home for a family memorial service (great aunt - 102 years old) the evening of March 29, so I'd really like to have everything wrapped up in time to activate the league at Yahoo before I leave. If we continue at this week's pace, we should make it.
165JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 15:54
Just got a txt. The hen has landed. Waiting for his decision.
166JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 16:25
Update from: blue hen - "all the guys I wanted to take are gone". He needs time "to figure out who is left", he knows he only has a couple of hours on the clock. He's assuming there is internet access from his hotel, otherwise he will contact me.

As I let blue hen know, shortly, I'll be commuting home from work and not available from around 5PM-6PM EST. Otherwise I will be available the rest of the night to help with hen's and Chris' picks if they still need it (other than a short errand I got to do away from home around 7:15).
167Hubble
      ID: 56213211
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 17:35
I left a small Q for my 7.15 pick... i'm out for dinner and should be back to check and prepare for my 8.02 at 7:00pm...
168Hubble
      ID: 56213211
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 17:36
ooops 8.02 is not mine anymore!
169Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 17:39
Who is around (and not up in the few picks) to take a queue?
170blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 17:44
High speed at the hotel! Will pick in a few...
171Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 18:10
Someone please select
7.14 Aubrey Huff, 3B, TB
for me.

I realize he doesn't have 3B eligibility yet.
172 JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 18:11
Trip - If you still need, I can take your queue for your rebound pick.
173