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0	Subject: RIFC - Regular Season Discussion #1 Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 12:54 The season is almost upon us, and we might as well open up a new thread for in-season discussion. I already swapped kickers, with Nedney getting injured prior to his opening game. I added Tynes. I'm still worried about my RB situation. Suggs' status seems murky, but hopefully he'll be ready to play by Sunday. Also, my backup, Kevin Faulk, is already out for this week, although I wouldn't have started him anyway, since I would have to commit to that on Thursday.
1	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 13:22	I was just reading the news on Suggs: News story
2	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 13:34	TB, in my draft last night I finished up by taking Gannon (I have Favre and Brad Johnson). I really wanted to keep him, but I didn't take a kicker so I waived Gannon this morning and also picked up Tynes. I have too many good bench players to drop anyone else. Hated to do it. Incidentally, Tynes went to high school and lives about 30 minutes away from me, in Milton, FL. I had no idea there were any good kickers from this area. We've had WR's (E.G. Green), QB's (Danny Wuerful), and RB's (Emmitt Smith). Kind of funny actually. He was born in Scotland (I'm not making this stuff up).
3	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 13:56	You have got to get over Brad Johnson, even though I have to admit he is a safer pick than Gannon. Let me ask, how many roto style teams do you have this year? How many of those teams have either Henry or B. Johnson? How many have both?
4	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 14:09	Hahaha. I have Henry on 3 of 4 (almost got him on the 4th, but he got swiped 2 picks before my second round choice). I also have Brad Johnson on 3 of 4. He is the backup on all 4 teams. Tom, go look at his numbers last year. He was the 10th best QB in Exit42. I have him backing up Garcia on one Exit42 team (more like co-starters) and he's backing up Favre on the other. And in RIFC he's backing up Pennington. Tell me you wouldn't love him as a backup. Come on. The same 3 teams have Henry and Johnson. Obviously I had them ranked higher than many people did. In my money league, I have neither, which I believe is to my detriment. But in that league I have LT, Martin, Dunn, Barber, Fargas, William Green, and Onterrio for RB's and Trent Green and Garcia for QB's. I think I'll survive.
5	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 00:40	I am a little concerned with Fanball accurately tracking IDP scoring. Doesn't look they have it together for this first game. It has bugged me that they list Cato June as a DB. When you click on any IDP's name, it doesn't list available defensive players on their team like it does if you click on an offensive player. I wonder if this is their first season scoring IDP? Culdeus and Taxmen in a regular Texas shootout.
6	Challenger *Donor* ID: 481126818 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 01:45	Yup, IDP points have disappeared from live scoring. During the game they were there and accurate. Is TSN involved in this?!!?
7	Guru ID: 330592710 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 10:36	This is their first year scoring IDP. I'm sure they'll get the bugs worked out.
8	TB *Leader* ID: 31811922 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 11:13	I noticed they had some IDP scoring during the game, but it was not accurate. They never did have any scoring for June, not that he had a lot, but he did have a couple tackles.
9	Perm Dude ID: 2343587 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 13:59	Crap! I had thought I'd set my lineups after the draft, but in checking for interim scoring I find I'm going to start 0-2. There goes my season.
10	Guru ID: 330592710 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 14:00	PD - you can still set your lineups. You have up to 5 minutes before game time for each slot.
11	Perm Dude ID: 2343587 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 14:07	Ah, OK. I was not seeing an option for moving bench players to starters (hence, my despair), but I've found it now. Thanks.
12	Guru ID: 330592710 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 14:38	For the first week, I decided to simply start my top three receivers (by draft pick) for each of the doubleheader games, even though I do consider Wayne(#3) and Branch(#4) to be similarly susceptible to on and off weeks. After last night, I'm already wishing I had split those two. Wayne didn't get as many looks in the 2nd half, although he did have one thrown to him in the end zone that resulted in pass interference against the Pats. Had he hauled that one in, he'd have essentially matched Branch in points. Going forward, I'll probably be inclined to split those 2 receivers unless I have a strong opinion.
13	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 14:52	Guru, I have Wayne in another league, so I was watching him intently last night. I counted many passes thrown in his direction. I belive it was about 9. I was so bummed when he didn't come down with that TD in the first half (Assante Samuel played great on that play). I just looked up the gamebook on NFL.com. Manning threw to Wayne 8 times last night. If he catches half of those passes, we're talking about what a great night he had. Plus, those were some of the longer throws. Harrison was getting the underneath stuff. Stokley looked like a pinball last night. He was bouncing all over the field.
14	culdeus *Leader* ID: 43105818 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 18:16	Not sure if anyone saw my post on the site earlier today. Looks like fanball is allowing for blind bidding, a great (IMO perfect) solution to all the waiver issues. From earlier post I know it's late but the more I started looking at the WCOFF system the more I fell in love with it. It solves all the problems of waiver order problems easily and everyone has a shot at the players the first week. Plenty of people have bad first weeks and then get a shot at the Boldin's of the world only to come on strong late with the extra juice they picked up by having a bad week at the right time (Week1). If the spare teams need an extra guy they just know they'll have to bid more to get them. In my pay league last year a 2-12 team every week would pickup the backup RB du jour after injuries or whatever happened try to trade them to the injury recipient and then drop perfectly servicable backups to have them snatched up as FA. Instead of making this automatic it makes you think about what you are doing and how valuable it is to you. It's probably too late but we really haven't had a waiver period yet. If someone could move this to guru's site I'd appreciate it.
15	Guru ID: 330592710 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 21:27	I'm amenable to the change, but it needs to be approved by a majority of the rest of the managers.
16	Perm Dude ID: 2343587 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 21:31	Guru, I just noticed this on the site: Your league's trial period ends on Wednesday 9/22/2004. fyi
17	Guru ID: 330592710 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 21:35	Yup. I have to pay by then. No problem. We have until 9/22 to use the site for free, so I took advantage of it.
18	The Beezer *Leader* ID: 191202817 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 23:19	Question for the RIFC and RQFL #2 since they are using doubleheaders... How is the total points calculation being done to determine the #7 and #8 playoff seeds? If it's just starters, then since a different lineup can be set for each game of the doubleheader, is this the highest of the two scores, or is there a different rule used here instead? Hopefully I just missed something that makes this obvious. Thanks.
19	Ender ID: 0442215 Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 23:29	Fair question and perhaps Guru will give the authoritative word, but I took it to mean the cumulative score of each game. It seems like the simplest way to do it and accounts for different lineups for each game. You simply get the combined score of both games for the week. Your total points is then the sum of your weekly scores.
20	Guru ID: 330592710 Sat, Sep 11, 2004, 09:23	Yes, total points for all 26 games.
21	The Beezer *Leader* ID: 191202817 Sat, Sep 11, 2004, 09:43	Thanks - that is a good solution that I hadn't thought of.
22	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Sat, Sep 11, 2004, 19:38	IDP scoring still iffy. C. June: 2 tackles and 2 asst should be 3 points R. Harrison 3 tackles, 4 asst should be 5 points Didn't check any others, but whoever has Zach Thomas is probably pretty happy. =)
23	Motley Crue ID: 181650 Sun, Sep 12, 2004, 08:51	They seem to have alot of IDP scores up now, TB. Have you checked back in?
24	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Sun, Sep 12, 2004, 10:43	Yeah, they show Cato with 2 points and Harrison with 9 points....lol
26	Ender ID: 0442215 Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 00:51	The IDP thing is a tad aggravating. I know it's iffy on Sundays because that has been my past experience, but NFL.com's stats seem to be pretty safe so how come they don't use them? I'll withhold any further comments until I know exactly how I did this week ;) There were some truly studly performances to start the season.
27	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 01:47	Yes, there were. Too bad none of them were on any of my teams. =)
28	Guru ID: 330592710 Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 10:24	Some of the IDP scores I have checked appear to be OK, although many are not, and they all seem to be due to incorrect stat reporting. I can't detect any pattern. And obviously, I don't know whether the problem is with their feeds (from Stats, Inc.) or with their processing. I did find a formula problem. I had neglected to change the fumble scoring for IDPs to include 1 pt for a forced fumble and 1 pt for a fumble recovered. I just made that correction, and it seems to be reflected properly now. Hopefully, there aren't any other commissioner input errors. Some players are still not being detected. For example, my kicker is Tynes, who is being shown with zero points. If I click on the game link, I can see his stats listed, but he doesn't appear to be properly linked to the guy on my roster. Does anyone else have players on their roster who appear to be missing stats altogether? Are there any other apparent glitches that we need to be aware of?
29	culdeus *Leader* ID: 43105818 Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 13:36	Yeah, it didn't have my kicker every time either. But it appears to add the score in anyway, hand add your points up and compare it to the total. Mine was higher by what my K should have had. It's showing my K now so I think they have fixed it.
30	culdeus *Leader* ID: 43105818 Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 22:31	One thing I'm starting to dislike about the doubleheaders. I know now I'll have 33% more chance of caring about the outcome of the MNF game.
31	Guru ID: 330592710 Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 11:12	Week 1 standings are now posted at Fanball. Please check you player totals and report any apparent errors.
32	Guru ID: 330592710 Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 11:44	Also, just to clarify - waivers are scheduled to be processed at noon ET tomorrow (Wednesday). Free agent pickups become available at 1pm. All dropped players go on waivers for a 48 hour period. All other unclaimed players should be free agents at 1pm.
33	Motley Crue ID: 181650 Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 12:15	Guru, I am going in to set my waiver request list, and I get this message: Waiver Wire There are no players currently on waivers.
34	Motley Crue ID: 181650 Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 12:20	nevermind Working fine now.
35	culdeus ID: 26856146 Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 15:56	What did you do to see the list MC?
36	Guru ID: 330592710 Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 16:05	I haven't yet figured out how to submit a waiver claim. Can anyone help?
37	leggestand *Sustainer* ID: 451036518 Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 16:11	1. Go to "Claims" in the transaction box on the left of the screen 2. Go to "Create/Edit Your Claiming System Requests" 3. Click on "Go to Claim list A" in the drop down box 4. Pick the player you want to add/drop I think that should be it.
38	Guru ID: 330592710 Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 16:18	Aha! Technically, I guess we are not really placing a waiver wire claim, we are placing a free agent claim. If a player is dropped, he goes on waivers, and is then subject to a separate waiver wire claim.
39	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Wed, Sep 15, 2004, 15:46	Do we have an IR slot?
40	Guru ID: 330592710 Wed, Sep 15, 2004, 15:47	Nope.
41	leggestand *Sustainer* ID: 451036518 Thu, Sep 16, 2004, 10:04	This question could have a very simple answer, but I don't have a clue where to find it: On the "Set Lineup" page, in the place where you put active or bench, there is a column called: Vs P/R Does anyone know what this means?
42	deepsnapper ID: 15843714 Thu, Sep 16, 2004, 11:17	leggestang - vs P/R = Opponent defense vs pass/run I'm on a short leash for the next couple of months with my eyes and the PC, I'm scheduled for surgery next Thursday (Vitrectomy). Right eye in May, Left one now. Glad I've run out of eyes for the doc to poke holes in! lol Watch out after Thanksgiving though` ;)
43	leggestand *Sustainer* ID: 451036518 Thu, Sep 16, 2004, 11:26	Thanks deep, and good luck with your surgery.
44	Guru ID: 330592710 Thu, Sep 16, 2004, 19:49	I've assembled a basic page of league standings and roster data. While those of us in the league can see all of this info (and more) at the game site, this page provides a public snapshot of our results. My plan would be to update this several times per week, after the standings are updated, after waiver claims, and shortly before game time. I want to do a little more cosmetic touch up, but I think this provides the basic info that I want to make available. Let me know if you think of anything I should add or adjust. I'd also plan to archive weekly snapshots, so that we can look back to prior weeks as the season progresses, if desired.
45	Challenger *Donor* ID: 481126818 Thu, Sep 16, 2004, 21:56	Looks good Guru Interesting schedule this week - There should be 2 less undefeated teams this week, barring tie(s). Guru vs Sludge culdeus vs Challenger (The only current undefeated teams)
46	Sludge ID: 278591212 Thu, Sep 16, 2004, 22:06	Great page, Guru. It looks like the lightbulb is growing out of the football player's head, though. At first I thought it was intentional. :)
47	GoatLocker ID: 128491910 Sun, Sep 19, 2004, 18:16	Anybody able to get into FanBall Commissioner this afternoon? All I keep getting is a message saying it is down for maintenance. Can get into Exit 42 okay, just not commissioner. Cliff
48	Perm Dude ID: 2343587 Sun, Sep 19, 2004, 18:21	No good for me either--getting the "regular maintenance" page.
49	GoatLocker ID: 128491910 Sun, Sep 19, 2004, 18:23	Just got in for the first time in about 5 hours or so. Just kept refreshing. Cliff
50	culdeus *Leader* ID: 43105818 Sun, Sep 19, 2004, 20:22	Man I need Bennett back, and fast. Looks like no undefeated teams will be left after this week.
51	Challenger *Donor* ID: 481126818 Sun, Sep 19, 2004, 20:38	I managed to get into the scoring page about once every 30 minutes or so. Wish I hadn't this last time as PD somehow piled on alot of points in those 30 minutes. Btw, my rationale of Keyshawn's attitude was right on! Last week 9 catches, no tds. This week 2 catches only as he disappeared in the 2nd half. On his 1st catch he was stopped at the one yard line and the next play was a pass td to a TE. Tv cameras showed Keyshawn not celebrating the TE's td pass reception, but with a not so happy face as they went off the field, IMHO. (maybe Key was tired already)
52	Taxman *SuperDude* ID: 029463114 Sun, Sep 19, 2004, 21:58	Culdeus... How could Graham have 2.1 points after scoring 2 touchdowns??
53	culdeus *Leader* ID: 43105818 Sun, Sep 19, 2004, 22:05	Good question, I just noticed that on the FBG main page. I don't think any FFL site is devoid of problems, we had lots of issues last week in my ESPN league with the mis-timed waiver wire.
54	culdeus *Leader* ID: 43105818 Sun, Sep 19, 2004, 22:15	You missed some key, key things probably. I was at the game and watched him virtually break down crying as he came off the field before the TD was thrown to the deepsnapper. He was slinging his helmet and shouting loudly and did not watch the next play. Then later in the game he caught a ball at the 10 or 15 and was late hit. This was on 3rd down and he was shy of the first by 2 or 3 yards, got up and shoved the guy a little too long even though a flag was thrown right between them for the late hit which would be a first down. Offsetting penalties, Field Goal. Thanks jerk. Of course he spends the next 2 minutes pleading his case to the disaffected tuna.
55	Perm Dude ID: 2343587 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 00:44	They played Tuna's talking to Keyshawn. Basically, it boiled down to "FU" and "Shut. Your. Mouth." Went with Carson over Hasselback this week, which might just cost me the game against Culdeus. pd
56	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 01:05	I am not having the best luck with injuries so far. I think I might go 1-1 again this week, but need to stay away from the injury bugs for a while.
57	culdeus ID: 26856146 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 07:25	Graham still at 2 points.....
58	culdeus ID: 26856146 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 07:43	Posted on FBG This is on RTSport's home page: "Unhappy with Fanball or CBS ? You don't have to stick it out with a service you don't like. Give us your fantasy football account ID from a competitor and we will convert your league! Its not too late to switch, we will compute your scores and stats back to week 1. Call us up, we will take care of you!" Looks like the word is out...
59	Ender *Donor* ID: 013443221 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 09:02	Where do we stand with Fanball then? I'll be honest, I CAN'T STAND the interface. NOTHING is as simple as it could be. The live scoring link takes you to a page where you have to choose live scoring again! If that's not what I wanted then why did I click the link the first time?
60	Ender *Donor* ID: 013443221 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 09:15	Also, Taxman added Bryce Fisher (DL, STL) at 12:27. Is that EST so it was before games started? Is that why he was able to do it? If it was not EST then how was it possible? I'm sure it must be EST and that explains it, I'm just double-checking our free agent/waiver process and timing. All players go on waivers at kickoff of the first game, correct? (Or is it kickoff of their respective games?)
61	Guru ID: 330592710 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 09:49	I had a similar problem with D. Davis last week. He was missing his TD points for awhile on the live scoring page, but they finally returned. Anyone else notice any scoring errors so far(other than Graham)?
62	Guru ID: 330592710 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 09:57	Ender - I'll agree that the interface is not ideal, but I'm certainly not going to switch sites because of an annoying interface. All times seem to be reported in Eastern time, so the pickup was OK. When a game starts, players from that game are frozen. They are not technically placed on waivers, but they cannot be added at that time, and are subject to the free agent claiming process the following Wednesday. I have not yet paid for the league, but must make a decision by Wednesday. At this point, I haven't seen any issues that would make me want to go to the hassle of switching services. I think the headaches would be significant, and I suspect we would have trouble finding a "safe" alternative that offered all of the same features.
63	Toral ID: 22731114 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 09:59	A question -- how much time elapses in RIFC between making a trade and having it be official? In RQFL#1 it is 48 hours, and I wonder if we have the same setting. Toral
64	Guru ID: 330592710 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 10:12	It can be as much as 48 hours. Managers have 24 hours to challenge a trade. If there are not at least 3 objections within 24 hours, then the trade can go through at that time. If there are three or more objections. then the league votes over the following 24 hours, and the trade (if not rejected) would be approved after 48 hours from inception. I suppose we could require that all trades (including those without objection) would still be in stasis for 48 hours, but this was never explicitly discussed. So, as it stands now, trades without objection go through in 24 hours, trades subject to a vote require a 48 hour wait.
65	Ender *Donor* ID: 013443221 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 12:41	No problem then (on either count). I wouldn't switch simply because of the interface at this point either. I was wondering if anyone had any other problems since we are getting close to the time to fully committ. I'll tough it out, but won't recommend the site for future leagues.
66	culdeus *Leader* ID: 43105818 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 13:36	They seemed to have fixed Graham, I need McNabb to go <8pts to go to 4-0. I can dream can't I?
67	Guru ID: 330592710 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 15:39	Just posted at the Fanball site: Live Scoring Update Last Sunday, Fanball Commissioner suffered its first significant live scoring failure since the first week of 2002�34 NFL regular season weeks. We recognize the important role that live scoring plays in the enjoyment of fantasy football, and apologize for the technology failure. Fanball Commissioner has grown dramatically in the past year, and we�re working hard to meet the needs of our growing clientele. Between now and next Sunday, Fanball�s technical team will be focused on delivering a great game day experience for your league. The trial period for your league has been extended by one week so you can be assured that our Live Scoring component has returned to the stability our customers are used to experiencing.
68	Sludge ID: 278591212 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 23:45	I need an Onterrio Smith or Wiggins fumble returned for a TD! C'mon Philly!
69	Sludge ID: 278591212 Tue, Sep 21, 2004, 00:22	Oh well. I feel very fortunate to be 3-1. Given that points scored may be important for returning last year, I'm glad I broke 100 on both teams, especially with my WR having a sub-par week (understatement). PD 117.68 to Challenger 117.80. Wow! That's going to come down to stat adjustments.
70	Guru ID: 330592710 Tue, Sep 21, 2004, 12:19	So who has the worst injury problems? I'm going to be without Heap and Cowart for a few weeks, but I suspect there are others with bigger holes to plug. On the surface, TB seems to have the biggest impact, with both McAllister and Steve Smith. Can anyone top that?
71	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Tue, Sep 21, 2004, 12:29	I also cut Galloway and his hamstring problems. Losing my #1 RB and #1 WR (two of my first three draft choices) is enough misery. I would like to apologize to family, friends, and fans of both of those players. I should have never posted my projected point stuff in the recap thread. I really hexed my team.
72	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Tue, Sep 21, 2004, 13:05	I played fanball last year and loved their site. I still like the interface that it uses for exit 42 leagues, but am not a fan of this fanball commissioner interface. It is taking forever to set up my waiver claims too.
73	Guru ID: 330592710 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 12:46	15 claims processed this week. Lots of activity.
74	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 14:34	Man, what a pain that system is. I went in this morning and tried to set up a claim for Caldwell and was told I couldn't. I wish the setup was the same as for Exit42. They really ought to simplify things a little on the Commsioner website.
75	Guru ID: 330592710 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 14:40	I didn't have any trouble setting up claims. I actually thought the process was pretty simple.
76	culdeus *Leader* ID: 43105818 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 17:48	Considering my 1st and 2nd round picks are both probably out this week I think I pretty much win.
77	culdeus *Leader* ID: 43105818 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 17:52	How come the waiver claim order stays the same during the week even though some people didn't get in the first round of claims? This is pretty irregular. I've never been in a league where the order didn't roll up at least after the first claims are processed.
78	Sludge ID: 54692111 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 18:07	Considering my 1st and 2nd round picks are both probably out this week I think I pretty much win. Considering my history of fielding teams that seem to seriously underperform when going against a short-handed team (either due to injuries or byes), you'll probably win at least one of your games.
79	Guru ID: 330592710 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 18:09	It is supposed to roll up. Evidently, I can override the current order, and I'll try to figure out how to do that before the current waiver players clear. Then I'll file a trouble ticket.
80	Trip *Donor* ID: 13961611 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 18:12	It looks like the waiver claim is the same as the original free agent claim listing. I noticed that last week in RIQFL#2 and set it so that it matched the free agent claim listing and am planning on doing so throughout the year. I don't know why the two are different.
81	Guru ID: 330592710 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 18:58	It appears that the free agent claim priority system and the waiver claim priority system are not integrated. So movement in one does not translate to the other. Rather odd. So I just reset the waiver order to manually integrate the two. As Trip mentions, I guess I'll have to diary myself to do this each week after free agent claims are processed.
82	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 19:48	The standings show me 6th from the bottom and claims said I was 6th for the week when I was setting it up. I look at the order the claims were processed and they were all processed worst to first. Some of us had more than one claim and they stayed in order. Fanball resets the waiver claim order weekly based on current standings.
83	culdeus *Leader* ID: 43105818 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 19:55	So that could mean I missed out on one of my two claims I submitted, great.
84	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 20:45	I don't see any claims made by your team ,but I do not see how fanball resetting the waiver priority for the worst teams would prevent you from setting up a claim. This week I had an A, B and C claim. A claim listed 6 RB's for Smith. B claim listed 3 players for Cato June. The first choice was taken by someone else. Pittman was my second choice and Dawson was my third choice. C claim was Dawson for Foreman. I set it up this way because A) I need RB help and Smith had to go. With a WP of 6, I knew I would get one of the backs I wanted by making 6 choices. B) Only 3 more players I wanted after my first claim. C) I had Dawson as my third choice for June and the only choice for Foreman. If Pittman was already gone, it would have grabbed Dawson for June and would have cancelled my C claim.
85	Guru ID: 330592710 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 23:05	culdeus [83] - I don't understand what you think went wrong. As far as I can tell, all free agent claims were properly processed. The only issue was that I had to resequence the priorities for any subsequent waiver claims this week. But the claim processing priorities worked as I expected.
86	culdeus ID: 588262316 Thu, Sep 23, 2004, 17:29	Looks to me the 1st guy got all his claime, then it cycled down one by one instead of resetting the order. I'm not sure if it would have made it to me but I'm suspect of it running them right. Will the order be corrected for the second cycle this week?
88	Guru ID: 330592710 Thu, Sep 23, 2004, 18:03	culdeus[86] - I was able to audit the entire claim process, and the reported sequence of claims worked as it was supposed to. According to the records, you submitted no claims. Did you think you submitted a claim? If you look at this page, you can see the sequence that claims were awarded. Once a team had a claim filled, it moved to the bottom of the priority list, and the next team was up. After all teams had a chance to have one claim process, the cycle repeated. Why do you think the processing was done incorrectly? I certainly don't have any evidence to support this.
89	Guru ID: 330592710 Sun, Sep 26, 2004, 16:41	I evidently forgot to activate Reggie Wayne and bench Deion Branch (byw week) for my second lineup. Ugh. What a doofus!
90	GoatLocker ID: 128491910 Sun, Sep 26, 2004, 17:42	Couple of really close games this week. Cliff
91	culdeus ID: 588262316 Sun, Sep 26, 2004, 21:31	I was in doubt, I did submit an "A" claim for a couple of guys and I guess I didn't do it right. I was suspect that if it didn't rotate the order at the end then it wouldn't have done it while it processed the claims. Ugh, this week was horrible for me. No claim would have pulled me out of the gutter.
92	Sludge ID: 54692111 Mon, Sep 27, 2004, 13:47	Re: 89 Looks like the bye week bug bit PD as well.
93	Guru ID: 330592710 Mon, Sep 27, 2004, 14:00	The sad thing is that I was attentive to getting my other bye week players addressed. I simply thought I had switched Wayne with Branch earlier in the week, and evidently neglected to pay attention when I was working on the other slots. At least I was blown out in the game I screwed up, so it's not too harmful. I'd have lost anyway, even with the extra 25 points from Wayne. Hopefully, that point deficiency won't keep me out of the last playoff slot at the end of the regular season. I had a similar issue on another team this weekend, where I thought I had benched Rudi Johnson in favor of Thomas Jones, but evidently didn't complete the move. Again, that oversight turned out not to matter in this week's W/L result. But it still troubles me. Finally, in a survivor pool, I selected Arizona this week instead of Atlanta. I think I had "Pick the Loser" on the brain. I suspect that dementia cannot be dismissed as the explanatory factor.
94	Guru ID: 330592710 Tue, Sep 28, 2004, 12:58	I pulled out a squeaker this weekend. Thanks to M�tley for leaving Wheatley on the bench instead of Green or Barlow. That was the difference maker. (Sometimes, I guess it helps to be short-staffed and have no choices!) I paid for the league this morning. I couldn't see any reason not to continue, in spite of some irritations. We'll revisit the whole site issue again next year. So far, doubleheaders have hurt me. If we had used a standard schedule without DHs, it would have been the game 1 schedule. I'm 3-0 in those games, but 1-2 in the 2nd game. Frankly, I don't think my team is a 3-0 team, and in that regard, the DH scheduling is probably producing a more deserving record. Even so, I wouldn't mind being 3-0. Next week I'm in trouble. Culpepper has a bye, so I get to start McCown. Aye carumba! Early congrats to Ender and Challenger, who can probably coast this weekend.
95	Ender *Donor* ID: 013443221 Tue, Sep 28, 2004, 13:07	So far I like the doubleheaders. I took it on the chin this week due to serious bye week issues that I created for myself. I could have drafted differently to prevent it, but I'll stand by my team and now I don't have to worry about the bye at RB the rest of the season (barring injury). I won't take anything for granted, Guru, but I gotta like not facing Culpepper.
96	Sludge ID: 54692111 Tue, Sep 28, 2004, 13:44	It would be an understatement to say that I'm happy with the performance of my team thus far. It's only 3 weeks, though, and I can't count any chickens yet. Having said that, however, my WR corps has been dissapointing, but Thomas Jones has picked up the slack. (I'm not regretting passing over Owens... yet.) I've also finally had some luck with TE, which is rare for me. This week might be brutal, though, going up against Challenger. I just wish he was one short on RB instead of WR. On any given week, Bruce and Muhammad can do the work of 3 decent WR by themselves.
97	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Tue, Sep 28, 2004, 14:01	MC and Deepsnapper, I sent out a trade offer. If you counter, I don't think I will be back online until Thursday.
98	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Tue, Sep 28, 2004, 14:43	TB, thanks but no. I may get around to a counter this week. God knows why you want to trade with the 0-6 team, but anyway... I lost both games this week by a combined 2.3 points. That is the definition of the word "suck". My reward? I get to play sludge and culdeus this weekend. Joy. If someone wants to trade me a Top 15 WR for Tony Gonzalez, I will seriously consider it right now. That is, Top 15 draft status, not points (no, I don't want Stokely for Gonzo).
99	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Tue, Sep 28, 2004, 14:46	I sent another one.
100	leggestand *Leader* ID: 451036518 Tue, Sep 28, 2004, 15:21	MC, Tough luck man. I knew that Coles needed 44 yards for you to beat me, and he ended up with only 42 (out of Brunell's 325 passing yards!). Garcia is killing my team, and it looks like Delhomme will be my starter now. My RB's have performed well (really Alexander carries my team), but I am still waiting on Porter and Price to wake up at WR. The next six weeks should be interesting as people have to play their bench players, and hardly anyone has a deep bench.
101	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Tue, Sep 28, 2004, 15:58	legge, I know. I was listening to the game while surfing the net and I kept hearing them say "Pass intended for Coles--bounced off his chest." Boy, what a louse.
102	Guru ID: 330592710 Tue, Sep 28, 2004, 22:34	A trade has been agreed to by the two parties. TB offers: RB Ron Dayne, NYG WR Amani Toomer, NYG To receive from Flower Mound Cowboys (deepsnapper): RB Aaron Stecker, NO WR Plaxico Burress, PIT If three managers object within the next 24 hours (by 8:24 ET Wednesday night), then the trade will be put to a vote. Otherwise, it will be automatically approved.
103	Challenger *Donor* ID: 481126818 Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 01:44	Objection - Dayne has a calf injury to unknown extent at this time. Dayne worried over calf injury
104	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 02:24	I didn't know there were any issues with Dayne, other than he has sucked. =) If Roy has a concern over this or if it even comes up to a vote, please just cancel the trade and I will offer Toomer for Stecker straight up or replace Dayne with A-Train. Dayne was just a toss-in for some RB depth so he wasn't down to 3 RB. I will call Roy tomorrow and have him post his thoughts.
105	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 08:22	Yeah, well Dayne sucking gets cancelled out by Burress really sucking. And Plaxico is on the field for 70% of the offense's plays. This seems fair to me. I mean, it's a couple of bottom feeding players, really. The only player I can see having any impact at all is Toomer, and TB is giving him up. Of course, we all know how my powers of prognostication work out...
106	Guru ID: 330592710 Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 12:24	19 free agent claims today. Every team except for Perm Dude picked up at least one player. Six teams picked up two players.
107	Perm Dude ID: 2343587 Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 13:19	Yeah, I'm slow on the draw in the FA market! Just made a move a few minutes ago.
108	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 13:25	legge, I just offered you a trade. Let me know what you think. Guru, So have you completely lost interest in Hollings and Green?
109	leggestand *Leader* ID: 451036518 Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 14:00	MC, counteroffer sent (via email).
110	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 14:30	Hmmm, I'll have to think about this a little more, leggestand.
111	leggestand *Leader* ID: 451036518 Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 14:36	Sounds good. I don't want to scare you off with my offer, since it did have quite a few big names involved. But, with a little elbow grease, we may be able to work out a deal dreams are made of.
112	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 09:02	legge, I just made another offer. //MC
113	deepsnapper ID: 15843714 Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 09:47	I agreed to the 4 player trade with TB and accepted Dayne knowing he was an insurance pick in the event I needed a 4th RB down the road. Dayne isn't a big deal in any event. I thought it balanced out the Toomer/Stecker trade more as Stecker won't be fulltime once Deuce comes back and Plaxico has more value than Dayne in the long run. Guru can cancel it out and we can make it a Toomer for Stecker if that's what everyone wants. Tom and I don't really care. We were just trying to balance the overall trade value long term. Sorry I've been offline. I had the Vitrectomy eye surgery last Thursday and between the stitches from the incisions, the eye drops and all the pain pills, I can't do any "close" vision work for another week or so. Everythings a pretty big blur at the moment. TV viewing fine though so I get to watch all the games. lol
114	Guru ID: 330592710 Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 09:57	We had only one objection registered, so I see no reason to not to allow the trade to go through. Motley, I'm not totally disinterested in Hollings or Green, but so far our conversations have given me no reason to suspect that we can find a middle ground. If I give up a starting WR, then I'm hurting there. I think I may simply need to throw caution to the wind and hope that I can continue to find two healthy bodies at RB from within.
115	leggestand *Leader* ID: 451036518 Fri, Oct 01, 2004, 14:38	I don't know if you're around MC, but I have sent you another offer. Haven't heard from you in a while, so, I am just making sure you got it.
116	Motley Crue ID: 181650 Fri, Oct 01, 2004, 15:14	I was out all day. I got it, and countered just now.
117	Challenger ID: 29914120 Sat, Oct 02, 2004, 10:16	Guru, I was going over the rules looking to see if we set trading deadline, we did, and noticed this: Starting Playoff Week Your league does not have a starting playoff week.
118	Guru ID: 330592710 Sat, Oct 02, 2004, 10:25	Good catch. I just set it.
119	Taxman *SuperDude* ID: 029463114 Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 00:23	Very quiet league so far, so here are some idle (shallow) thoughts... It is often better to be lucky than good. The Guru took a double loss last week by 7 and 12 points changing a 6-2 record to 4-4. Several of us have consistantly avoided games against other managers who have put up high scores in our matchs. It is as important for your opponet to not score big as it is for your team to rack up the points. CanEHdian Pride, Sludge and Ender join me in poaching activities with the lowest PA (points against)to date. For me that changes with games against the grumpy old navy guy and CanEHdian, #1 and #5 in PF (points for). Ender catches the other CanEHdian game and Sludge, but Sludge's other game is with Legstand, who may have bye week problems and not be able to put up a big score. It should be very interesting to see how the next few weeks play out as byes and injuries start shaping the league standings.
120	GoatLocker ID: 128491910 Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 01:39	Grumpy old navy guy. Now I think I've been called just about everything. Should be a good week. Lots of important games that will drive the standings. Cliff
121	Guru ID: 330592710 Sat, Oct 09, 2004, 17:19	culdeus - I noticed that you don't have a DL in your starting lineup for tomorrow, which makes your current lineup invalid. Your only DL is on your bench. Don't get caught invalid!
123	Guru ID: 330592710 Sun, Oct 10, 2004, 07:44	Sorry, not getting involved in another league's brouhaha. (Actually, I'm not sorry at all!)
124	leggestand ID: 56811718 Sun, Oct 10, 2004, 08:41	Hey MC, I have been on vacation for the past 5 days, so, I just saw your trade offer (and subsequent cancellation). I actually would probably make that trade, and, if the offer is still available next week, let me know. Sorry to not get back to you sooner.
125	Taxman *SuperDude* ID: 029463114 Sun, Oct 10, 2004, 16:39	Guru...would you please review my roster next week also. I see where I started Onterrio Smith in my 2nd game this week :(
126	deepsnapper ID: 15843714 Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 13:37	I'm back from the world of the cane tappers. I'm happy to say I'm off the steroid sauce and Limbaugh cocktail too which helps for a more normal day. ;) The left eye's going to be a little blurry for a while, but everything looks great, so I'll be keeping my eyes on you guys for the rest of the way. lol
127	Perm Dude ID: 2343587 Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 14:03	The left eye's going to be a little blurry for a while, but everything looks great, so I'll be keeping my eyes on you guys for the rest of the way. Sounds like a metaphor for John Kerry.... :) Looks like I came from behind (way behind in one contest) to go 2-0 this week. I really needed it after my lineup fiasco last week.
128	GoatLocker ID: 427272213 Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 23:10	Need a good 2nd half from McNair and Bennet to get me by Tax and help me go to 2-0 for the weekend. Go Tennessee. Cliff
129	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 23:22	I have been struggling to catch a break. Zereoue killed me last week and it looks like the Ravens D and Culpepper are the chief culprits in the two beatings I took this week. The good news is that it looks like Deuce is back.
130	GoatLocker ID: 427272213 Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 00:52	Guess I'll take the 1-1. Oh well, that's what happens. Cliff
131	Ender *Donor* ID: 013443221 Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 10:43	deepsnapper, glad to hear the rough part is over. Do they expect your left eye to return to normal vision?
132	culdeus ID: 469351211 Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 13:42	Ugh, an invalid lineup wouldn't have helped any more. I was waiting for the second round waivers to clear to try to get another DL. When is this season over with?
133	Taxman ID: 34919127 Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 01:08	Old grumpy guys shouldn't get so far ahead. With 6 minutes left in Monday night's slaughter you had our match by 3 points, but then GB went back to Ferguson and McNair started handing off. Whew.
134	Guru ID: 330592710 Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 08:46	GoatLocker was apparently very shrewd by skipping his first round draft pick and then letting us stick him with Tiki Barber after the first 2 rounds were done.
135	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 11:23	I was thinking about that other day. And Terrel Owens, too!!
136	leggestand *Leader* ID: 451036518 Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 11:27	MC, Trade offer sent your way again. Trade talks part deux.
137	Motley Crue *Leader* ID: 439372011 Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 11:31	legge, New rules here at work: no more Fanball access or webmail. If you want to e-mail me at the linked address, we can talk that way.
138	leggestand *Leader* ID: 451036518 Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 11:41	Sounds good...email sent.
139	GoatLocker ID: 427272213 Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 12:22	I was thinking exactly the same thought also on the draft. Of course, I would like to think that the rest of my draft also has had something to do with how things are going. Tax, The moment the Titans got that far ahead, I figured I was in trouble and you would win it. Oh well, we will meet again. Cliff
140	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 00:13	Are defensive players getting points for return yards in our league?
141	Guru ID: 330592710 Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 00:14	No.
142	TB *Leader* ID: 031811922 Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 00:29	I didn't think so, but am wondering how defensive players (mainly DB's) have odd scores like 12.76 or 7.10 for a week? I am looking at the top scorer, Terrence McGee, who has 25 tackles, 1 assist, 1 sack, and 3 passes defensed. That should be 30.5 points but he has 49.94. Where did he get the rest of his points from?
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