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Subject: RIHC 2004/05 - Regular Season Discussion
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 10:57
The league will be activated at noon today. All free agents will be on waivers for 2 days. Waiver priorities will be in reverse draft order.
Regarding trade approval and processing:
Trade review is set for Commissioner approval. After a trade is announced, managers have 24 hours to register an objection by either posting here or by sending me an email (or both). If at least 3 objections are received during that period, then all managers will be surveyed for a vote. 6 negative votes within the next 24 hours would be required to overturn a trade.
If a vote is not required, the trade will be processed as soon after the initial 24 hour period as possible. If a vote is required, the trade will be processed (if not disapproved) as soon as possible after the voting period ends. If those 24 hour windows end late at night, it is possible that a trade may not be processed until the following morning. (I will do my best to be prompt, but I'm not staying up until 1am to process a trade.)
Regarding placing players on the disabled list:
1. Any player drafted may immediately be placed in a DL slot if they are Yahoo-eligible to be put there.
2. Any DL-eligible player may immediately be placed in a DL slot if they have appeared in an NBA game since the time they were added to the roster.
3. Any other player on the DL may only be placed in a DL slot after they have been on the roster for a minimum for 10 days.
The limitation in item 3 will be manually administered. Be particularly aware of this in the next week or so. I don't want to see a scramble to pick up disabled free agents and immediately warehouse them in a DL slot. If this is detected, you will be required to either drop the player, or to put him back on your active roster for the required waiting period.
Removal of a player from a DL slot will be subject only to the standard Yahoo rules. Be aware that if you have a player in a DL slot who is no longer on the DL, you will be unable to make any add/drop transactions until that player is removed from the DL slot.
Are there any other rules, guidelines, or agreements that we should discuss prior to the start of the season? |
| 1 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 11:05
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Nothing comes to mind Guru. I had totally forgotten about that DL stuff. Have never used anything like that before (which means I'm asking for forgiveness in advance if I violate it---lol).
Enjoyed reading the rationales everyone wrote. Especially when someone reveals that they "didn't want" to take someone, but did, and that was the person I wanted......hmph. ;)
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| 2 | Species Leader
ID: 07724916 Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 11:43
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Best line so far in the "Draft Recap" thread by RSF:
"Surprise pick Exhibit A: Mark Blount at 5.10. That guy is too damned ugly to be picked that high.
GREAT line! lmao
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| 3 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 12:11
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The league has been activated. If you go to your team page for Thursday, Oct 28 or later, you will be able to set your lineup.
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| 4 | GolfFreak Sustainer
ID: 01730209 Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 12:23
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For next year..... Any Chance you Hoop Gods (Each Manager) puts your Top 12 or better yet 24. After the Draft. No notes needed. Just to see the Diffent ranking. As always it was fun to read the rationale.
Liked this "Oh yeah, and I knew Mike D was going to draft with his next pick, so I'll count this is a McInnis' first steal of the season... :)"
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| 5 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 12:26
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GolfFreak, I didn't like that at all!!! j/k
Typical RSF. Witty, wise, and wacky. ;)
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| 6 | Edgar Leader
ID: 00458944 Thu, Oct 28, 2004, 07:11
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Wanna swap teams with us Mike D? We are ready!
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| 7 | Mike D
ID: 42953285 Thu, Oct 28, 2004, 07:53
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I thought about it Edgar.....but I'd hate to part with guys like Haywood. And I don't know if I want guys like James. I'll look at other options though. ;)
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| 8 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Thu, Oct 28, 2004, 20:36
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Its a sad day...Spurs waive RBB.
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| 9 | blackjackis21 Leader
ID: 34837521 Thu, Oct 28, 2004, 21:04
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That reminds me - here's-the tail end of Rotowire's blurb on Ilgauskas...
The unproven Drew Gooden will fill Boozer’s role, but not as effectively. And Silas’ other options (Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje and DaSagana Diop) are not legitimate.
Poor illegitimate Ruben :(
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| 10 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Fri, Oct 29, 2004, 21:14
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Hilarious how in the Recap thread no one can agree on which team(s) look the best. And in the team swap question, the disparity is unreal.
We're all very confused, it would seem......
;)
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| 11 | Swish City Dude
ID: 0931275 Fri, Oct 29, 2004, 21:23
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I saw that quote about Ilgauskas too. Poor RBB getting no love around here nowadays. Although that would surely be in keeping with him being illegitimate?
Mike, i'm sure the disparity will fade soon enough. All you have to do to give us Marion for our main man 'Toine. Problem solved ;)
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| 12 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Fri, Oct 29, 2004, 21:45
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Do I have Marion in this league? Man, I have offers out for him in two other leagues. I can't keep it straight anymore! Well, if I do, that was some good thinking to get him!
Toine......Employee #8.......the dude that fires from anywhere, and says it's in his range. You lucky dog Swish!
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| 13 | Edgar
ID: 5891276 Sat, Oct 30, 2004, 11:25
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Antoine could be 1-14 and telling his coach that he's hot and wants the rock. Another very nice aspect is that he is a great rebounder but seems to park his lazy but out on the 3pointline all the time! I think he will either turn out to be the most hated or most loved player on our squad very quickly.
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| 14 | Rand Donor
ID: 083231216 Sat, Oct 30, 2004, 11:56
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Hey Edgar, I just saw that Yahoo is now listing LeBron as an SF as well as a PG, nice that it was done before the season started.
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| 15 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Sat, Oct 30, 2004, 12:30
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It really is nice and I commend them for that. Fixing B. Wallace, giving Iverson PG status, etc, all make sense.
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| 16 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Sat, Oct 30, 2004, 12:48
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Can they take away Duncan's C ellig. That would be really nice...
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| 17 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Sat, Oct 30, 2004, 12:51
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And Mike D, whats up with pulling the trade offer before I can hit the "Rejectomatic" button? Fun killer...
Actually would have rejected it because of injuries, not so much as GP broken thumb, but Old Man Reggie's broken hand.
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| 18 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Sat, Oct 30, 2004, 13:02
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I had to leave this morning for a soccer game and was having bad thoughts about that offer. I needed a clear head to coach my son's team to victory......lol.
I still have other active ones out there in this league and others. All part of the fun. And RSF, you're allowed to offer them too. (as if the reigning Chamber TM champ didn't know that)
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| 19 | chizz1
ID: 27914115 Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 09:33
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Blackjack's 13th round selection of Devin Harris is looking mighty fine now that he was named the starter in Dallas. Terry will still put up decent numbers, but I bet Guru wouldn't have taken him with his fourth pick if he knew Terry would be coming off the bench.
Dallas' second unit is going to be pretty darn impressive.
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| 20 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 09:45
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Agreed on all counts chizz. Will be interesting to see how Harris performs from a consistency and turnover standpoint. But he has the reigns. And you can't expect Terry's numbers to remain the same off the bench at this point.
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| 21 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 13:16
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I certainly didn't consider the Harris news to be "good", but we'll have to see how this plays out. Had I known this in advance, however, I'd have taken Arenas instead of Terry. (Almost did anyway.)
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| 22 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 09:33
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Yahoo now has Jeff Foster designted as being on the IL, but I still don't have the capability to move him to a DL slot. I assume this is just an early Yahoo glitch. I noticed the same problem in another Yahoo league as well.
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| 23 | Rand Donor
ID: 083231216 Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 09:42
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Just encountered the same problem with my players, Guru. Hopefully they sort it out the DL glitch soon.
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| 24 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 09:50
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Yup, glitch across all my leagues. Under "research and analysis / status changes / injured list," the players still aren't listed. It's like they haven't fully run the program yet. Maybe the actual opening of the season will trigger it, meaning changes can be made tonight, or tomorrow.
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| 25 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 18:11
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DL slots are now available.
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| 26 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Nov 03, 2004, 09:45
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I'll be putting together a daily stangings update, as before. I hope to configure this to generate date splits as well, so that you can look at team results over any range of dates. It may take a few days for me to get this up and running, however. We'll see.
Meanwhile, I can't find where games played are being reported. Last year, I think there was a link for this at the bottom of each team page, and total games played (for each team in total) was also reported on the league standings page. Neither of these sources appears to be activated yet. Let me know if you find this data somewhere.
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| 27 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Wed, Nov 03, 2004, 09:50
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I don't see it either and have to assume the same (not activated). And that sound you heard was Lenard's achilles snapping. Ouch.
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| 28 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Nov 03, 2004, 15:40
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RIHC Standings report has been set up, and will be updated daily.
Ability to calculate stats based on a range of dates will be set up sometime in the next week.
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| 29 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Fri, Nov 05, 2004, 01:30
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Who needs a second Center when you have 4'2" Earl Boykins...2 blocks...LOL.
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| 30 | Edgar
ID: 34105422 Fri, Nov 05, 2004, 03:01
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Ok I have had enough. How can you win this thing without KG? He produces stats for three top starting players a night. Ridiculous. Next year I suggest we leave him undrafted.
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| 31 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Tue, Nov 09, 2004, 12:01
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coldwater looking pretty smart for that "early" Hinrich pick so far......looks like suspensions and injuries "might" be past me at the moment. We'll see.
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| 32 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 00:14
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The first sign of Artest being the basehead that he is...sigh...
Risk/Reward
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| 33 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 11:17
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RIHC Standings now provides two new capabilities:
1. You can now calculate split standings by date. These will be based on total stats accumulated over the date range specified.
2. You can now calculate rankings and standings based upon per game averages. This can be applied to the current YTD standings, or over a data range as well.
To generate these reports, click on the link that says "split standings by date", enter the dates (if necessary), click on the button to use averages (if that's what you want), and... voila!
I did some spot checking of data, and the results appeared to be correct, but please look over the initial results critically and report any apparent anomalies.
BTW, you can also get to the RIHC page by clicking on the league icon in the left panel of the RotoGuru home (blurb) page.
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| 34 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 11:18
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I have yet to figure out a way to make my team look better. But I'll keep looking. ;)
Thanks Guru!
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| 35 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 11:21
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Hey, the per game averages knocked me ahead one spot! Woo-hoo! Seriously though, that's a way cool feature.
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| 36 | Rand Donor
ID: 083231216 Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 11:54
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woah, me like the per game average feature. Probably the only way I'll ever get to second place, but it sure is fun to look at:)
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| 37 | Slackjawed Yokel Leader
ID: 052347519 Fri, Nov 12, 2004, 00:38
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man, looks like someone's been going around taking shots at my player's ankles. First Kwame, Nowitzki, then Finley, and now Wade. Who let Tanya Harding out of prison anyways?
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| 38 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Fri, Nov 12, 2004, 00:46
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LMAO! I hate injuries.
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| 39 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Fri, Nov 12, 2004, 01:01
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I think they all just want a little time off to hit the recording studio with "Lil' Saint Ronnie" AKA Ron Artest.
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| 40 | hoopsklyce Leader
ID: 59923214 Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 10:46
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I can say I was in first place for at least a day
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| 41 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 10:54
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Was your camera working? To get that snapshot? ;)
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| 42 | Swish City Dude
ID: 0931275 Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 16:42
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Since we've stuttered a little bit chat wise, i'll volunteer a few random thoughts.
The EuroGollum team has already had it's fair share of ups and downs. On one side, there's the tremendous play of Lebron and Hill, as well as a surprisingly reasonable FG% and lack of 3s from Mr Walker. At the other extreme, there's the dreadful start for Donyell and downright shocking shooting we've had to absorb from Troy, although he does seem to be turning it around. Throw in Ben Gordon's very slow (but expected) start, and for the moment, we're really just happy not to be cast adrift. Hopefully there's quite a bit more left in the locker yet. We can't continue to place our entire burden on the Precious 'bron 'bron.
Of all teams, i thought Slackjawed's team was going to dominate, on the evidence of the first few games. Then he fell into some bad luck with Finley and Wade both succumbing to bad ankles. However, you're always looking for potential 1st or 2nd round pace players in the mid rounds, and with Wade, SY struck gold. Period.
I also wish to express my utmost shock at only having received one trade offer from Mike D. This is unacceptable, please send Marion for Josh Howard offer ASAP, Mike. I believe it's tagged on to the end of Edgar's draft cheat sheet you were working from ;)
Key FA pickups so far, well, there's been some corkers. Croshere working out well for us, but missing out on Simmons, Hart, Williams, Korver (d'oh!), Armstrong (d'oh again!) and Zo stings a bit.
And as for the studs - Startlingly, KG is even more phenomenal this year, and i've been mighty impressed by Dirk in what i have seen of him too. He looks like he could cement himslef as the #2 hoops option if he keeps his play at it's current level. And obviously Lebron is playing way above his #9 pick at the moment.
Now, i'm just waiting for center drought to kick in, and for someone to pull DJ Mbenga and RBB off the FA list.
What about the rest of you? What rude awakenings and pleasant surprises have sneaked up on you during the first few weeks?
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| 44 | Dave R Dude
ID: 3010361110 Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 17:08
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One trade from Mike D, I haven't recieved any :(
I'm satisfied at this point, my team is chugging along. Kobe has been Kobe, although his FG% needs improvement and I really envisioned some loftier stats from him. Lewis and AI have been better than I envisioned, particularly assists from Iverson ( 8.1/ game )
What a pleasant surprises Iguodala, Howard and Atkins have been and the FA pick up of Mourning.
Biggest dissapointment so far has been, of course, Dalembert. Hopefully now that he's back he can win a starting spot. Funny, last year I picked Chandler in the same slot, I hope this years results arent the same.
Oh yes, and the ill-timed trip to the DL by Mike James. I can only hope when he comes back he can displace Williams.
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| 45 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 17:14
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Dave R, that's cuz your team sucks. Oops, you're in first place. Cancel that. And Swish and Edgar insist they are better than they stats belie. In due time. In due time. LeBron will be mine.
Alas, I am making the rounds. I figure I've now approached about half the league. I'm pacing myself, obviously, for the long haul. I'm not getting any younger.
;)
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| 46 | blackjackis21 Leader
ID: 034837521 Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 17:22
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Fairly happy with my team so far, but definitely looking forward to getting my first two picks (T-Mac, Big Ben) back after a couple of games off. Tinsley's been a nice surprise (with the exception of FG%, which can't really be a surprise I guess). I've also been happier than expected with R. Jefferson - though the Nets must be painful to watch. Es la verdad, eh Dave?
I've been a step slow on a few waivers as well.
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| 47 | hoopsklyce Leader
ID: 59923214 Tue, Nov 16, 2004, 10:35
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Happy with the overall depth of the team. Have only waived 1 of the charter members (Jackson for Hart). Peja off slow but expect better days from him. Webber I would guess is due for an injury. I think he has gone almost two weeks without twisting an ankle.
Sweetney has shown some signs of being a steal and Hedo has been better than expected. I am rotating all my guys but I still seem to be behind pace for games played according to Yahoo.
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| 48 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Tue, Nov 16, 2004, 12:35
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I'm beginning to think I should rename my team "Underachievers". The only players who have been doing better than their draft sequence would suggest are the late rounders - Desmond Mason, Haslem, and Ward. Ward my be benefitting from the absence of TMac, so that may be short lived.
Yao has not been worthy of a top 24 pick. Hopefully, he'll still get it in gear. I don't know to what extent McGrady's absence is impacting his numbers.
I'm satisfied with Marbury and Boozer so far. They haven't overachieved, but they are in line with my expectations.
Terry was a 4th round mistake, I suspect. I could have had Arenas or Billups with that pick, and strongly considered both. Maybe he'll turn it around. He hasn't been awful, but he's been producing like a good 6th round pick, not a 4th rounder.
Harrington is a big disappointment. So is Kenny Thomas. I'm still hopeful that each will recover. There is ample history with each to suggest that they can do better.
Mobley has done as expected, except that he's missed 3 games already due to injury.
Brent Barry and Radmanovic have been OK. I had hoped that Barry might do better than an 8th round pick would suggest.
And what's up with Claxton? Very disappointing so far.
I could really use an overachiever. So far, no one has stepped up.
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| 49 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Tue, Nov 16, 2004, 16:07
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I've got the early title for "using up his games too fast".
With Finley down for the count, Stackhouse has given me quite a few good games so far.
My Snow pick has backfired, for the reasons I stated in the "Overall Recap" thread. He seems to be coming around a bit though, so there is still hope.
PJ hasn't produced for flip.
Other than PJ and Snow, I can't say I'm overly disappointed.
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| 50 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Nov 17, 2004, 09:21
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Injuries are also creating some issues for me. Foster, of course, has been in one of my IL slots since day one. Nene has played only once this year. And now Terry has a sprained ankle.
This is starting to feel uncomforatbly similar to my baseball experience, where I fell so far back in the first month that I was never able to get back to the middle of the pack. That's one reason why I tried to put extra value (in the draft) on players with a history of good health. Maybe all I managed to do was find the players who were overdue!
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| 51 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Thu, Nov 18, 2004, 15:24
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Swish/Edgar---you guys take a European Vacation with one C. Chase? Your silence on the trade front is intriguing.
Speaking of trades, I've been chipping away at the dam for awhile now. I have a feeling that once one goes down, the water will rush threw. Maybe that's just gas......not sure.
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| 52 | Rand Donor
ID: 083231216 Thu, Nov 18, 2004, 16:27
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As David Cassidy would sing, my team has been 'up, down, all round, like a Rollercoaster'. One day I'm on the leaderboard, and the next I'm just a couple of missed free throws from last place.
I'm having a difficult time considering trade options since I'm still not exactly sure what my team's strengths and weaknesses are. Or if there are any strenghts at all!:)
Eddie Jones had a good night recently but has otherwise been miserable, Baron Davis is hurt and goes to IL just as Arroyo comes off of it. Fortunately I managed to pick up Armstrong who will be replacing Davis and is capable of providing substantial fantasy numbers when given the opportunity. As well, Simmons was a great free agent acquisition. I'm sure gonna miss Baron terribly but I guess a few missed games is to be expected when you draft a guy like him. Kirilenko has been OK, and Kenyon is finally showing some fire, but I've gotten next to nothing out of my mid round picks (Eddie Jones, Arroyo, Foyle(9th round, i think), tony Parker, Magloire). Once my teams's schedule heats up, and my Games Played increase, I hope some of my guys start showing a little more consistency and help the Rand Dragons slowly climb to the top of this ride once again. Anyway, ttyl, RIHC dudes.
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| 53 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 15:01
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Wow...I'm screwed, all thanks to Ben Wallace.
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| 54 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 15:05
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Wow, you have both Jackson and Artest. You are screwed.
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| 55 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 15:08
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It also occurs to me that we have no way to "shelve" a player who is suspended for an extended period. They wouldn't be on the NBA injured list, so they couldn't be placed in an Injured slot.
In a league like this with only three bench slots, having two of those slots tied up with suspended players is really nasty.
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| 56 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 15:17
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I can't think of any leagues that have extra shelving. I remember having a bench full of IL players in a league a couple years ago. I have Jermo, hoping he gets off easier.
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| 57 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 15:20
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And now I see Jermo is on the suspended indefinitely. I'm a bit surprised to see that. Oh well.
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| 58 | Edgar
ID: 111053217 Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 09:48
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Mike we saw your offer but it was not one we liked! We are very happy with our Bron Bron leading us to the precious ring. But we will make an offer to you in the near future quite possibly.
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| 59 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 10:04
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That's fine bro. I got sick of waiting. No offense, but if someone doesn't like an offer, communication and/or a response is nice. Maybe I just need my coffee. ;)
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| 60 | Swish City Dude
ID: 0931275 Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 10:12
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Mike, in my defence, i was wrapped up all of Thursday and Friday with my bro's graduation and the ensuing festivities. Edgar and i try to catch up most days, but sometimes it just ain't possible. Otherwise, we definitely would have sent you a sugar coated "No Thanks" :)
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| 61 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 10:58
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I figured there was a plane ride to a secret meeting place in Europe somewhere, on a roof top, high above a big city. And then after an elaborate break down of each of our teams, a detailed response was formulated.
Man, do I feel slighted!!!!!
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| 62 | Edgar
ID: 111053217 Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 12:02
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Mike we feel that our man Bron is de our main hobbit that will lead us to the RIHC Ring. So we cannot part with him. Other members of the fellowship can be shipped and replaced however.
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| 63 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 14:13
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I'd understand that rationale if I hadn't included the Matrix. But that's cool bro.
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| 64 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 20:28
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Boy, theres nothing like watching David Stern throttle your chances of top 3 finish in the RIHC...
'F' Ben Wallace
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| 65 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 20:46
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As in forward?
Jermo should be raring to go when he returns.....trying to find a positive there.
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| 66 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Fri, Nov 26, 2004, 11:51
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Nice to see Marko J(Y)aric put some big games together. He's coming along nicely, while guys like Jermo collect dust.
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| 67 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Sun, Nov 28, 2004, 09:02
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Sorry guys, meant to drop Howard, not Haywood. I'll certainly switch it if no one scoops him via waiver. Sorry for the error. And if anyone takes a "that's the breaks approach," that's fine too. Should slow down my trigger finger.
Besides needing to wake up this morning, I also need to stop talking to myself here. ;)
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| 68 | Swish City Dude
ID: 0931275 Sun, Nov 28, 2004, 09:33
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Dave We had our eye on Sura for about 3 weeks now, that's a real nice pickup. We really wanted him, but the way its worked out, there's just no way we could have jammed him onto our roster. IL slots are great, but when those players get healthy and you don't have any vacatable roster spots, it can be really restrictive too.
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| 69 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Sun, Nov 28, 2004, 11:33
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Hey, thats the breaks man...already have my waiver claim in (dropping Vince for him), but seeing as you are a good guy, I'll cancel it. ;)
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| 70 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sun, Nov 28, 2004, 13:56
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I dropped Howard and added back Haywood.
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| 71 | Edgar
ID: 171062814 Sun, Nov 28, 2004, 15:11
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Damn we really could have used this Haywood guy! Lets see what Van Gundy does to Sura's stats after ruining TMac's. And losing too many games along the way as well. Good thing for fantasy managers: he will be fired if they do not turn it around.
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| 72 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Sun, Nov 28, 2004, 16:10
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I still can't believe I went that fast and missed the 37 warnings in the transaction. Thanks Guru for fixing my ineptness. RSF and Edgar, thanks for your kindness. ;)
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| 73 | Rand Donor
ID: 083231216 Sun, Nov 28, 2004, 22:23
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Three of my top four draft picks are all on injury list for an extended period. Like this league isn't tough enough! What are the chances somebody will take pity and offer me a lop-sided trade that is dramatically in my favour?
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| 74 | Rand Donor
ID: 083231216 Mon, Nov 29, 2004, 10:36
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LMAO, Mike D. Just got your offer (and the quick cancellation of said offer) in my email and it cracked me up. I did have a lovely adrenaline rush when I saw the intial offer, so thanks for that! LOL, great gag, man.
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| 75 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Mon, Nov 29, 2004, 10:44
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LOL! Mission accomplished! ;)
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| 76 | Swish and Edgar
ID: 171062814 Mon, Nov 29, 2004, 14:25
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Ok we want to retire right now. We hope you all understand! We gratefully accept your congratulations. And look forward to watching from the top of the tree from the sideline. All the best!
Mike D you can get our Bron for Ruben BB now.
Your Eurogollum buddies,
Swish and Edgar
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| 77 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Mon, Nov 29, 2004, 14:54
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And I once again want to thank Guru for putting in the standings per game played feature. At times like these, it's all I have. ;)
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| 78 | Doug
ID: 57352917 Mon, Nov 29, 2004, 16:08
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I don't know Rand, the odds of that happening are bleak... however if you ever feel like changing your mind and playing opposites, I'm sure Mike D would be happy to propose a trade to you that's lopsided the other way around! ;-)
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| 79 | Doug
ID: 57352917 Mon, Nov 29, 2004, 16:09
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Oh wait, he already did... nm.
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| 80 | blackjackis21 Leader
ID: 34837521 Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 22:30
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Finally getting a first-round worthy game out of T-Mac. Been a long time coming. Maybe if he picks it up and Big Ben doesn't pick any more fights I can get things turned around.
Lots of mediocrity on my team though.
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| 81 | Slackjawed Yokel Leader
ID: 052347519 Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 22:49
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I gotta chime in and say I like what I'm seeing out of my first round pick tonight as well. looks like Dirk has all 10 OT points so far.
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| 82 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Fri, Dec 03, 2004, 14:32
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My teams is obviously in shambles. Yao has disappointed, and several others have significantly underperfrormed my expectations, especially Kenny Thomas, who only remains on my roster because he has some history to suggest that he can't be this bad.
I'm probably going to have to make some trade offers sooner than later, with an intent to shore up some categories at the expense of tanking others. There's got to be a way to improve from the status quo. Without a ton of thought, the cats I'd probably start to abandon are blocks and points. Obviously, the evidence suggests that I started on that quest long ago!
It's been tough to focus on this team, given a lot of other conflicting needs (including football) and my sense of dismay every time I check on it, but some of you will probably be hearing from me in the next few weeks. Meanwhile, if any of you are looking to do something that might fit with my sorry needs, feel free to shoot in your offers. No one is untouchable. But if you want one of my top guys (e.g., Marbury, Boozer), I'm going to be aggressive. I've already turned down several offers for each of them.
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| 83 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Dec 04, 2004, 10:28
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I've currently received trade offers and inquiries from several of you. Thanks. I may not have much chance to weigh them today - going to the UConn-Indiana game this afternoon, and also have some football decisions to make for the weekend. But I will evaluate them all seriously.
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| 84 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 041831612 Sat, Dec 04, 2004, 12:14
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UConn-Indiana? Wow, have a blast dude.
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| 85 | Doug
ID: 422281412 Sat, Dec 04, 2004, 23:53
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An amusing correlation right now between steals and overall rating... sorting on steals category, the overall ranks go as follows:
1-2-4-3-5-7-8-9-6-11-12-9
No other stat currently has such a strong correlation to overall success... of course, I'm not reading anything into this, I think it's just a statistical anomaly, but it just caught my eye as interesting/amusing. I'm curious what stat was most closely correlated to overall rank at the end of last year (probably something completely different)... do you have that data handy, Guru?
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| 86 | Slackjawed Yokel Leader
ID: 052347519 Sun, Dec 05, 2004, 02:10
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Looking at stattracker after tonight's games, I'm a serious outlier to your steals category correlation, Doug. I guess that's a result of the 1 point separating 3rd and 6th.
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| 87 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sun, Dec 05, 2004, 15:15
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Last year's final standings
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| 88 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sun, Dec 05, 2004, 15:27
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I must have motivated my team with my trade threats. In one night, the team gained 9.5 ranking points, and moved up 3 places!
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| 89 | coldwater coyotes SuperDude
ID: 229272412 Tue, Dec 07, 2004, 15:49
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Good jump. The only bright spot for my team is that I am climbing up the league table based on averages...hoping for Posey to start producing.
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| 90 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Wed, Dec 08, 2004, 22:48
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Not to be a stickler for rules, but coldwater coyotes, you can't move Brian Cardinal immediately to IL as per post 9 (if it was enacted...I thought it was, as this prevented me from stashing another player earlier.)
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| 91 | Doug
ID: 422281412 Wed, Dec 08, 2004, 23:08
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Ditto RSF, that is my understanding as well.
Does anyone know how long it takes Yahoo! to catch up to real life? Basically, I am at the mercy of Yahoo! until they put Cato on IL... because I am not allowed to make any add/drops while an active player (Kidd) is in my IL slot. However, I should be able to put Cato there, and then proceed with add/drops. As it stands currently, I would have to drop 2 players in order to add a player, and that doesn't seem right.
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| 92 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Dec 09, 2004, 08:45
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Yes, CC, you are not allowed to immediately stash Cardinal. You need to move him back to your active roster for 10 days, or else drop him. I'll give you a day to make your own adjustment(s), otherwise I'll boot Cardinal using my Commissioner powers.
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| 93 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Dec 09, 2004, 09:52
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RSF - if Vince Carter's injury turns out to be as bad as feared (season ending achilles tear), that's really the icing on your Artest/Jackson cake.
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| 94 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 535441512 Thu, Dec 09, 2004, 13:53
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Oops sorry about the Cardinal sin.....forgot about this rule.
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| 95 | Doug
ID: 57352917 Thu, Dec 09, 2004, 14:15
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lol @ cc... "Thankyouverymuch!!!! He'll be here all week folks!"
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| 96 | Doug
ID: 57352917 Thu, Dec 09, 2004, 18:50
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Apparently they're pretty on top of it... Cato was listed on IL today... phew!
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| 97 | blackjackis21 Leader
ID: 34837521 Sun, Dec 12, 2004, 18:27
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Do we have a rule (written or otherwise), or does anyone have a problem with me being fickle on my free agent pickups? I think a couple different times this season I've picked somebody up only to drop them later the same day to pick somebody else up for whatever reason. I guess the problem could be that I've "locked up" my initial pick up for a couple days, denying anyone else a shot at said disregarded talent.
I'll try to stick with my first pick in the future, but just wanted to see if there were any thoughts on this.
Thanks.
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| 98 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sun, Dec 12, 2004, 21:03
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We have no rule, but I've thought about it on occasion. One possible approacj is that if a player is picked up and then immediately dropped, the Commish should immediately take him off waivers and put him back as a free agent. Of course, this would require that the commish be alert.
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| 99 | blackjackis21 Leader
ID: 34837521 Sun, Dec 12, 2004, 21:42
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Right - Seems like I've played another league where, if you pick a player up, you have to keep him on your roster for at least X days. I don't think it was a Yahoo league though, and as far as I know, Yahoo doesn't give you that option.
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| 100 | Swish City Dude
ID: 0931275 Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 16:06
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The 1st trade of RIHC 2004/2005 is now complete. EuroGollum send Warriors PF Troy Murphy to Coldwater Coyotes in exchange for Heat PG Damon Jones. Some background and thoughts on this trade:
Everyone knows that the hardest thing to do when you reach the summit of a league as highly charged as this, is to stay there. So with that in mind, we were very keen to exploit our early rebound advantage and translate that into potential points in some other categories. This trade targets our mediocre 3s and should also help in the assists category. These categories always seem difficult to catch up in if you fall behind early. We had 3 or 4 guys targeted that could help us here. One of them was already knocked back, and we planned on having a look at Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford had our bid for Damon failed.
So, now we have Damon Jones. Besides anything else, he is currently the league leader in 3s, nailing 2.9 triples per game. Just before we offered this trade, Damon graduated to the starting lineup at the expense of the inept Heat SF duo of Butler and Anderson. It's had a direct effect on his numbers. With 4 games as a starter under is belt, Damon has hit an astounding 18 trifectas at a 57% clip. That makes even Kyle Korver whince a little. His scoring is up over 6ppg on his season average of 11, and he's doing it on 60% shooting. It would be foolish to expect this kind of production for the duration of the season, but what a difference it makes playing in the same lineup as the Diesel and not with the 2nd unit i.e. Mike Doleac. Shaq will enable Damon to have plentiful opportunities at racking up 3s. And being a PG, it's likely we'll get 4-5 apg out of this deal too, though most of the offense still flows through Wade.
Troy was tough to let go, but you get what you give in this league. His shooting is coming around after an awful start, and it always makes you wonder a little when you are giving up a category leader in a trade. We have no doubt that we'll look at the box scores throughout the year and see those 13,14,15 rebound nights more often than not. That's not an easy player to give up, but CC looked as though he could do with a reliable F behind Zach and KG, so we think this deal fits pretty well. We hope that the addition of Eddie Griffin and the return and increased role of Donyell can go a long way to replacing those lost boards.
So, the first trade is done. Let the floodgates open ;)
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| 101 | coldwater coyotes SuperDude
ID: 229272412 Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 16:51
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My biggest concern with the trade was Murphy's propensity for injuries. As to losing 3pts I have faith that Posey will start producing and become a respectable third producer with Crawford and Henrich.
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| 102 | hoopsklyce Leader
ID: 59923214 Thu, Dec 16, 2004, 12:19
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I am interested in trading for assists or blocks. I am OK in the remaining 6 categories. Perhaps a lessoned learned for me for the next draft (should I qualify). David
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| 103 | hoopsklyce Leader
ID: 59923214 Fri, Dec 17, 2004, 10:18
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If anyone is wondering why the past couple games Kobe is hitting his shots and Dirk is struggling its because I traded away Kobe for Dirk in another league....
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| 105 | Swish City Dude
ID: 0931275 Thu, Jan 06, 2005, 06:53
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AP10, are you around? Noticed that you haven't made any changes to your team for a while. And we have some thoughts on a trade for you also.
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| 106 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Thu, Jan 06, 2005, 13:26
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Didn't expect Jim Jackson to get traded, and then not to report.....didn't expect Jermo to get suspended. But then again, I didn't expect the suspension to get reduced. Didn't expect Jaric's foot sprain to be a stress fracture. And are they ever gonna place him on the IL???
This season is unfolding just the way I planned. (lol)
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| 107 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Jan 06, 2005, 14:09
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Hey Mike D - It wasn't all that long ago (about a month) that I offered you Marbury for Jaric and Korver? Just think - you turned it down!
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| 108 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Jan 06, 2005, 14:16
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My team has come back from the dead after an abysmal start. Getting into the upper division will still be a challenge, however.
Jason Terry is finally showing signs of productivity, and even Kenny Thomas shows up occasionally (but still puts up stinkers too often).
Yao's blocks are still going to waste on my roster, and I ought to do something about that. It looks like I could use modest help in many other categories, so perhaps this shouldn't be such a difficult chore.
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| 109 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Thu, Jan 06, 2005, 14:19
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Doh!!! Say it ain't so!!!
Ironically the main reason I did was my concern over a lack of available free agents to add to my team. Not just at that time, but in the future. I gave too much credit to the depth of the league, when in reality, there are always viable free agents that emerge. And I violated my own strengths and normal way of managing by rejecting it. I did, however, say at the time: "I'm pretty sure I will regret this........" Yup. I was right about one thing, at least! ;)
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| 110 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Thu, Jan 06, 2005, 16:33
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I think my thugs are starting to round back into shape. VC has a nice new home to hog the shots at (and seems to be asked to do so), Dunwoody might be coming out of his funk, StephJack should be back soon, some other guys too. Hope to make a push (seem to already have started) to atleast close in on the middle group and make it near the top.
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| 111 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 10:08
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Trade completed: I give up Yao, get Antoine Walker.
An odd trade on the surface, as Yao was my top pick, while Walker wasn't drafted until the 5th round. Sadly, Yao has fallen short of my expectations, performing more like a 3rd-4th rounder. In addition, as noted above, his blocks are doing me no good at all, as I'm hopelessly out of that category. Meanwhile, 'Toine has also been producing at a level commensurate with 3rd-4th round caliber.
Vs. Yao, Antoine keeps me even in scoring and rebounds, while gaining in assists, 3s, and steals. He loses in blocks - which don't matter - and the two shooting percentages. I think I may be strong enough in FG% to withstand his bricks there. In FT%, he'll definitely cost me a few ranking spots, although my team has been trending downward in that category anyway. So, my gamble is that he'll help me more in the other cats than he hurts me in the percentages.
I think this trade makes sense from the other side as well. The Euros can benefit from Yao's blocks and shooting %s, and can withstand giveups in some of the other categories.
It's one of those trades that I hated to do emotionally, but that makes sense mathematically.
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| 112 | Motley Crue Leader
ID: 439372011 Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 10:32
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Boy, NBA players have some funny nicknames.
Yao, StephJack, and Jermo. Sounds like the 3 Stooges, 21st century style.
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| 113 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 10:34
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Oh, wise guy, eh???? ;)
I had multiple "YOW!" offers on my screen and had to leave the house due to a soccer tourney (my son), so I closed out. By the time I got home, YOW! was packing his bags and headed back to Europe!
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| 114 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 10:55
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I actually waited more than 24 hours after the offer was made to accept it - first to run some numbers, and then to ponder (and wait to see if any other offers might be forthcoming).
He who hesitates...
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| 115 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 10:59
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Indeed.....now that YOW is getting closer to his homeland, I'm sure he'll never want to come back to the East coast.
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| 116 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 11:00
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Curiously, as I was scouting around last week, looking for a potential trade opportunity for Yao, I had identified the Euros as a good fit, and Walker as probably the best 1-for-1 candidate. However, at the time, I discounted him on the belief that he'd torch my percentages too much. It wasn't until after the offer was made that I actually ran some numbers and determined that it could work out rather well.
Of course, it could also bomb. But, nothing ventured...
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| 117 | Swish City Dude
ID: 0931275 Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 11:21
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EuroGollum's second trade of the year sends Hawks F Antoine Walker to Guru, and welcomes Rockets C Yao Ming to the Fellowship.
The thing that triggered this trade was Guru mentioning that Yao was not particularly well suited to his roster shape. He's loaded for Cs, and by his own admission, might look to tank blocks in return for significant upgrades in other categories. Certainly, he's gotten that in 3s, steals and assists, with probably some negligible gains in points and boards also. He's also in a good position to absorb the mediocre FG% Toine "provides", which quite frankly, is not as bad as we thought it might be at 43% thus far. We hope that if/when Guru rises in the standings, he might be able to pinch a few points here and there from the teams that are close to us at the moment.
For us, this trade helps shore up the 3 cats that we see as our main weaknesses: blocks, FG%, and FT%. It's almost like a double positive for us in the % cats, purely because Toine is such a stinking shooter (most of the time), whilst Yao is like clockwork from the field and the line. We also consider that Yao has had a pretty average start to the year, and as TMac is heating up now, it should help him find a groove all the more. Getting a 3rd C was a major factor in proposing this deal also.
The big question is whether we can sustain the hefty hit in 3s, and to a lesser degree, steals. Much like Guru, we hope that the gains will outweigh the losses.
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| 118 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 535441512 Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 13:59
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Two of my major decisions during the draft were Wade versus Hinrich and Stoudemire versus Randolph. So who did I pick Hinrich and Randolph!! Still.. the season is still long.
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| 119 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 14:19
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Dude, I thought Wade went high. Oh well. ;)
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| 120 | Rand Donor
ID: 083231216 Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 16:07
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I'm checking the days off on my calender til Kirilenko returns. I've heard word that Saturday is that day. With Baron Davis back in action (and 3Ding no less), and if Kirilenko returns to form, I might be able to claw my way out of the bottom of this league. I don't know if it's possible to catch up and grab the sixth spot before the season ends? Or are things basically already over for the Rand Dragons? Still, I plan to fight tooth and nail to escape the humilation of last place. Ok, it's really all I got to motivate me at this point:)
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| 121 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 16:10
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You could always shoot for the mythical TM title (Trades Made), though the Euros have sprinted out to a lead there too. ;)
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| 122 | Edgar Leader
ID: 00458944 Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 16:38
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We are planning a nice holiday after this season to Philly, Mike D! We have not however seen any offers from you recently....... I think we basically send two well thought trade proposals and both got accepted.
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| 123 | coldwater coyotes SuperDude
ID: 229272412 Fri, Jan 14, 2005, 13:54
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Wade went 5.03 in the draft!!
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| 124 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Fri, Jan 14, 2005, 14:31
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Passed up many times by everybody. Sigh.
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| 125 | coldwater coyotes SuperDude
ID: 229272412 Fri, Jan 14, 2005, 15:21
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I am trying to have a positive attitude today...Hinrich has had a sensational January and Wade will be plagued by injuries during the rest of the season. By the end of the season Hinrich will be seen to have been the better choice.
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| 126 | Swish City Dude
ID: 0931275 Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 19:05
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I don't think i can stand the pain if Toine turns into a triple double machine that can actually shoot, only 2 days after trading him.
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| 127 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Tue, Jan 18, 2005, 16:28
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Doug - you added Ron Mercer on January 14th. According to our league rules, you cannot put him in an IL slot until January 24th. You must either drop him or move him to an active slot until then.
(Special rules for injured player movement are in the opening post of this thread.)
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| 128 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Tue, Jan 18, 2005, 16:41
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Jaric plans a 1/26 return. Cool. I can use the games at this point. Unless someone else wants him. ;)
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| 129 | Swish City Dude
ID: 0931275 Thu, Jan 20, 2005, 19:34
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Ron Mercer is still on Doug's IL. He's also made 2 FA transactions whilst he's been sitting there, so what's the deal with those? Sorry to bring this up again Doug, but rules are rules.
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| 130 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Jan 20, 2005, 23:22
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I emailed him as well, although I don't know if the address I used is one he checks often.
I guess I should just release Mercer from his roster. If nothing else, that may get his attention.
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| 131 | Doug
ID: 57352917 Fri, Jan 21, 2005, 21:03
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Hey, just noticed this... sry, I've been quite busy... not sure what happened there, I'll take a look at it shortly (still at work)...
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| 132 | Doug
ID: 57352917 Fri, Jan 21, 2005, 21:19
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Ugh, I think I got Mercer confused with Bender, who I picked up in late December (and have since dropped, lol). Sorry about that guys, honest mistake. FYI, I'm going to have limited access the next couple weeks as I'll be on vacation in Costa Rica, not sure what the internet service is like down there... but then again, I don't really care! =-p
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| 133 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 09:11
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Woo-hoo. Jaric coming back in a few days, Jackson set to play Sunday for Phoenix....I may have a full squad! Here's hoping that's a good thing.
Doug, got your offer, considering it. My roster is in a bit of turmoil though, hard to get a read at the moment. Maybe we could expand the deal. That's always fun. ;)
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| 134 | Mike D Sustainer
ID: 41831612 Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 09:11
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Oh yeah, no more of that "double-secret injured list" abuse stuff, either. We've got our spies watchin' you from all over the globe. ;)
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| 135 | Swish City Dude
ID: 0931275 Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 10:31
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