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0 Subject: "Busiest Players" League

Posted by: KrazyKoalaBears
- [15023167] Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 11:25

I don't normally play fantasy basketball, but an idea was created in the Hockey forum for a "Busiest Players" league and I thought it'd be fun to do for basketball as well. The idea is to have the busiest players, not necessarily the best. In other words, instead of counting field goals made, you count field goals attempted with the idea that the guy with the most attempts was the busiest. Same with free throws, 3 pts, etc.

Here's the run-down...

10-12 Teams
PG, SG, PF, SF, C, BN, BN, BN
MIN, FGA, FTA, 3PTA, REB

And that's it. Obviously, the FA market will be quite big and I'm hoping that will help to make the league even more fun/active.

So, if you're interested, let me know
1Addicted
      Dude
      ID: 4611592518
      Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 12:29
In other words, the Ball Hog League.

Draft Iverson, Kobe, Marbury ...

--Addicted--
2KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 13:48
Yeah, pretty much. ;)
3CJ
      Sustainer
      ID: 499271021
      Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 23:16
I would think the Shaq attack might add some value?
4KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 11:08
Is ANYBODY interested in this league or am I going to miss out on fantasy basketball for another season? ;)
5barilko6
      ID: 291317
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 11:13
Is there some way to make Turnovers a positive stat? So if you have the most turnovers, you actually get points?

Yahoo should think about us losers when they set their leagues up...lol
6philflyboy
      ID: 520591215
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 14:11
Hockey set up has been fun. Count me in
7Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 14:56
Any limits on games played? Without that, wouldn't it simply become a game of shuffling people in/out every day, often via free agent pickups?

Or maybe weekly roster moves would mitigate that?
8 Kyle
      ID: 52753312
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 15:14
I would be interested in possibly trying this out. I think the idea of having to set your roster once a week is a good idea. this would really cause you to look into the players you are starting, IE who has 5 games and who only has 2 games this week. Would Ben Gordon for 5 games be better than 2 AI games?
But yes I'd be interested
9philflyboy
      ID: 278522416
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 16:11
in hockey play roto style with an 82 game limit. So I am sure that hoops would be the same.
10KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 16:55
82 game limit, for sure. Also, daily moves to play matchups, since matchups will become part of the strategy to maximize stats.

Kyle and pfb, you should have email from me.
11philflyboy
      ID: 278522416
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 17:11
thanks KKB-- done
12Kyle
      ID: 52753312
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 17:39
I am in KKB, thanks.
13KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 3090120
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 22:06
4 people are in (the other guy is a co-worker). Looking for at least 4 more...
14Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 22:42
I'll do it. Should be amusing.
15KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 354152921
      Sun, Oct 08, 2006, 17:23
Looks like we currently have 6 managers (possibly 7). I'd like to get a few more managers involved. Anybody else out there want to give this a shot? (pun slightly intended ;)
16wolfer
      ID: 575582311
      Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 11:26
All right, I'm game.
17KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 11:47
That makes 7. I've invited some friends of mine and am still waiting on responses. Should be able to get to at least 10 before all is said and done.
18KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 11:48
BTW, wolfer, send me an email, please.
19philflyboy
      ID: 520591215
      Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:07
any idea when this draft is starting? I will be out of town from this coming Sunday to Wednesday evening. Wondered if I would need to set up a dp or not
20Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:11
I assume the key is to get the league filled. Only 8 teams signed up at Yahoo so far.
21KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 15:19
I'm still looking for 2 more people. If I can't get two more people, I'll likely expand rosters to have two of each position.

Unless anybody has any objections, why don't we set the "clock-off" start time for Wednesday, Oct 18 at 9 am ET. I'll start the clock Thursday, Oct 19 at 9 am ET with a 6 hour clock.

Draft Pauses will be 11 pm ET to 9 am ET and 11 pm ET on Friday to 9 am ET on Monday.

If there are any objections/suggestions, just let me know.

pfb, I can certainly help out as needed.
22barilko6
      ID: 13821022
      Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 15:36
Alright...Sign me up!

I will be out for the rest of the day, back around midnight, and then around for the rest of the week...
23 Philsphan
      ID: 5477149
      Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 16:26
I'll sign up too. What the hey!
24KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 16:28
Okay, we're up to 10, so I'm going to leave rosters as they are. I'm still waiting on the other 2 people to see if we can get up to 12. I should know soon.
25KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 16:29
Make that 11 now (with Philsphan). I'll let the other 2 know that it's first come, first serve at this point.
26KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 08:58
Okay, I have the 12th manager. We're currently waiting on barilko6 and "the 12th manager" to sign up. Once that happens, I'll set the draft order and post it here.
27barilko6
      ID: 36913177
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 09:13
I am in!
28KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 09:18
The "12th manager" should be in before lunch. Look for the draft order after that.
29philflyboy
      ID: 520591215
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 13:38
looks like all 12 are in now.
30barilko6
      ID: 36913177
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 13:48
yep...lets gut busy with the busy
31KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 13:55
DRAFT ORDER

1. wolfer
2. Kyle321N
3. barilko6
4. RotoGuru
5. Hedlund
6. Fred
7. jaydoghall
8. philflyboy
9. youngroman
10. Dilligad
11. Philsphan
12. cJTi07

Draft will start "clock off" tomorrow morning at 9 am.

Clock will turn on Thursday morning at 9 am with a 6 hour clock.
32barilko6
      ID: 13821022
      Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 09:12
I've set up a 3 man queue for my first pick.

Fred, Guru, and PFB are designated pickers...
33barilko6
      ID: 13821022
      Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 09:16
wow...

I've already changed the guys in my top 3 queue more often then I get spam email...
34barilko6
      ID: 36913177
      Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 12:04
I guess I didn't need to leave a queue...
35philflyboy
      ID: 278522416
      Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 16:57
The first round always seems to go so slow
36barilko6
      ID: 13821022
      Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 17:32
Hey, not sure if this is really a trading league, but I would love to trade away my next two picks for a second first rounder and a later pick...say a 5th round pick?

So...my 2nd and 3rd round picks for your 1st and 5th.

Anyone interested?
37KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 10:15
Trades are certainly allowed, though it seems nobody wanted that 1st round pick.
38Philsphan
      ID: 5477149
      Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 10:46
Not many leagues where you would find KG and Marion drafted in the second round!
39barilko6
      ID: 36913177
      Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 11:32
Heading out for a couple hours, left a long queue that should last a couple of rounds.
40youngroman
      ID: 43441182
      Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 12:08
I'm away for the next 4-5 hours (attending a UEFA-cup game). my queue has currently 8 players in it, so it may be good for my 3rd pick.
41barilko6
      ID: 50947205
      Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 08:39
Added more guys to my queue and added everyone as designated pickers for me.

Really was hoping Mehmet dropped to me in the second round, but honestly didn't think it would happen, but he was the guy I was trying to move up to get.

42youngroman
      ID: 43441182
      Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 12:01
I don't know who to pick at the moment. I am now leaving work, should pick in about an hour.
43philflyboy
      ID: 278522416
      Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 15:21
I was hoping we could get the last few rounds done over the weekend but it looks like we have had way to many stalls. I left a queue and a cell number with KKB to cover my last picks. I will be back on Wednesday but I am sure the draft will be done by then.
44KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 354152921
      Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 20:34
FWIW, Here are the standings according ONLY to Rotowire projections after Round 5. This does NOT take into account whether or not everyone has a valid starting lineup.

1. Fred (of course! ;)
2. barilko6
3. jaydoghall
3. philflyboy
3. Philsphan
6. wolfer
6. RotoGuru
8. Dilligad
9. youngroman
10. cJTi07
11. Hedlund
12. Kyle321N

Interesting how many ties there are.
45Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 21:54
Yes, but there is a disparity in games played across all of the teams. Your starting five averages almost 80 games played per slot (as projected by RotoWire). So you have only 10 games remaining to max out. My starting five averages only about 75 games per player, so I can fill in an extra 25 games or so.

If you assume that each team will max out at 82 games per slot, and assume that the missing games are filled in by average players ranked 61-84, then you rank only #6. (I'll let you guess who ranks #1)

And, if you simply assume that every player plays 82 games and produces the same per-game average as they produced last season, then your team ranks #11.

I guess we might as well play the season out.
46KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 08:47
Nah, it's much better for me to just end everything right now. ;)
47barilko6
      ID: 13821022
      Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 10:54
KKB....do you have Philly's queue? (post 43)?
48KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 12:14
Sorry, got a bit tied up this morning. pfb's pick has been made.
49wolfer
      ID: 575582311
      Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 17:27
If it gets to me, I will make my picks between 9:30 and 10 PM CDT tonight. I am leaving work and I will not have access until that time.
50wolfer
      Sustainer
      ID: 18639422
      Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 23:00
Fred,

Check your email. I sent you a baseball idea for next year.
51KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 08:55
Sorry everybody. I had a massive brain fart yesterday. I saw that it was pfb's turn to pick, but completely forgot I was supposed to be picking for him.

Ugh! It's only Wednesday and it's already been a looooooooooong week.
52Philsphan
      ID: 5477149
      Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 13:54
Sorry for delaying the draft guys. Been very busy at work. I'll pick in a few minutes.
53philflyboy
      ID: 278522416
      Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 18:17
thanks for picking for me Fred!! I made my last pick
54wolfer
      ID: 575582311
      Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 09:12
Last pick made.
55KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 10:44
Draft results have been entered and finalized. Please review your roster to make sure you have the correct players.

(You'll have to click to tomorrow to see your roster).
56KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 09:04
CONGRATS Guru! A well-deserved trophy for your Yahoo trophy case. :)

I decided to take a look at the standings and was actually quite surprised at what I found. I know you pretty much dominated the league most of the season, but was really surprised at how close the "margin of victory" in each category was. Assuming 82 GP per position for 5 positions (410 games)...

MIN: 0.571 Min/Gm over 2nd place
FGA: 0.526 FGA/Gm over 2nd place
FTA: 0.250 FTA/Gm over 2nd place
3PTA: 0.114 3PTA/Gm over 4th place
REB: 0.019 REB/Gm over 4th place

To me, that's just amazing! I recognized at some point during the season that you were going to be hard to catch, but when you look at those averages, it makes your run just that much more spectacular, in my opinion.

Job well done!
57Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 10:52
Thanks. With all of the injuries during the year, I think I was able to find pretty good value in the F/A pool, adding guys like Iguodala, Al Jefferson, and Gerald Wallace at key times. Arenas was my MVP, playing every game until the bitter end. Even when he was having trouble scoring, he kept firing at the hoop!

None of my expected starters made it through the whole season unscathed - Arenas, Redd, Artest, Murphy/Villanueva (neither which lasted long), and Boozer - all had down times. PF was a difficult position for me until Jefferson emerged.

Baseball is going to be much more challenging.
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