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Subject: Players drafted out of high school
Posted by: CanEHdian Pride
- Donor [426351415] Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:01
After looking over the Tiger's list of draftees this year I realzed that their first round pick was a high school SS named Scott Moore. Just thought it would be interesting to see a list of other players drafted out of high school. Anyone know where I can find one or perhaps a few off the top of our heads can start a list of our own.
Only one that springs to my mind is Carl Everett. |
| 1 | Whitey
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:12
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I'm pretty sure Dave Winfield was drafted out of high school...wasn't Derek Jeter?
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| 2 | KrazyKoalaBears
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:17
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Jeff D'Amico is the only one I know for sure. ;)
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| 3 | James K Polk
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:21
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It's not uncommon at all for players to be drafted out of high school. I would guess that in any given draft, it's probably 50/50 between college and high school guys.
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| 4 | Whitey
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:22
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I would like to know some of the best players in history to be drafted out of HS though..I think that would be kinda interesting...and maybe how lonmg it took them to make the bigs.
If I recall correctly, Winfield joined the Padres big club not too long after getting drafted
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| 5 | patjams
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:24
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Ummm, AROD.
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| 6 | patjams
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:24
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Junior.
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| 7 | Mattinglyinthehall
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:24
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I don't think Winfield was drafte out of HS. He was one of very few players of his day or since that never played a minor league game. I don't know where he went to school but I doubt he went straight to the bigs from HS.
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| 8 | Whitey
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:26
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MITH - That's what I remember..I knew it was something like that. You're right, I doubt if he skipped the minors coming right out of high school.
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| 9 | James K Polk
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:28
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Yep, A-Rod was a prep draftee, and so was Griffey.
Here's a story about this year's draft: Prep stars dominate top of first round
Here's another story that breaks down the 2002 draft, if you scroll down a bit it talks about college vs. high school. Overall, my 50/50 guess looks like it was wrong. However, it was about 50/50 for the top 100 picks.
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| 10 | KrazyKoalaBears
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:29
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Todd Van Poppel?
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| 11 | Seattle Zen
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:31
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Winfield was a multi-sport star at U. of Minnesota
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| 12 | Whitey
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:32
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MITH - Winny went to the Univ. of Minnesota. He was drafted by the NBA, ABA, NFL and MLB!!!
He never played a down of college football but was still drafted in the 17th round by the Minnesota Vikings! Cool stuff...
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| 13 | Mattinglyinthehall
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:41
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Now that you guys mention it, I remember that classic shoot of him dunking in a college game.
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| 14 | rockfish
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:50
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I'm sure there's others but Al Kaline went from HS to the bigs never playing a minor league game. I played on the same HS team he did.
John Olerund in 89' went from college to the bigs also.
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| 15 | Perm Dude
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 14:55
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Yeah, MITH, but if you look closely at the film you can see the ball was actually passed by Howard Spira with a very tiny bug taped to the ball.
pd
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| 16 | Mattinglyinthehall
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 15:00
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Interesting, PD. Never heard that but it does explain a lot. Didn't he also kill a bird on that play?
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| 17 | Perm Dude
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 15:04
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Oh no, you're confusing the timeline. That bird was still in grade school.
Shawn Kemp was drafted into the NBA from high school, though I understand his stomach went on to college (a seven-year program at Oral Roberts University, I believe), and re-joined him in the NBA about 4-5 years ago. You can really see the difference in him and his play.
pd
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| 18 | Mattinglyinthehall
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 15:05
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;)
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| 19 | C.C.SOLDIERS
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 15:46
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Chipper Jones?
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| 20 | Razor
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 15:48
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There's way too many players to name. I know Kevin Brown went to Georgia Tech.
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| 21 | Razor
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 16:50
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Chipper definitely. Bolles High School in Jacksonville. I knew being from North Florida would come in useful someday.
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| 22 | KM
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 17:33
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But only once
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| 23 | patjams
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 17:55
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Trivia, Who was the first player to receive a 7 figure signing bonus? Who was the second?
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| 24 | Species
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 18:07
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Draft history is littered with HS studs that don't pan out. HS pitchers, especially. Bluntly, I'm not sure I'd ever waste a 1st rounder on a HS pitcher -- while sure you may pass on a Josh Beckett, if you draft 10 HS pitchers and 10 college pitchers, I can guarantee you the success rate is significantly higher with college pitchers.
Mr. Prez is right, it's probably a 50/50 split HS and college draftees.
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| 25 | Species
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 18:08
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patjams: 4 guesses
Van Poppel
Travis Lee
Matt White
Bobby Seay
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| 26 | patjams
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 18:26
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Species, Van Poppel is the answer to #2.
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| 27 | Species
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 18:31
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Ben McDonald?
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| 28 | RecycledSpinalFluid
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 19:03
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1 guess...and I can't remember the name, but was a yankee pitching prospect. Name is totally escaping me.
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| 29 | RecycledSpinalFluid
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 19:22
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1991 top pick, Brien Taylor?
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| 30 | RecycledSpinalFluid
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 19:26
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According to this Van Poppel signing bonus was only 500K, but he had a 3 year 1.2 million dollar contract.
More on Brien Taylor and his $1.55 million dollar bonus.
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| 31 | Razor
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 19:27
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Griffey?
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| 32 | patjams
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 19:36
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Brien Taylor is correct. I must have misinterpreted what I read about Van Poppel as I always thought he got the 7 figs.
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| 33 | RecycledSpinalFluid
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 19:47
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Wow. I must say I am amazed that the yankees were the first to award a million dollar signing bonus.
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| 34 | jimmy
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Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 21:00
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Reformatory and Orphanage>Baltimore Orioles(minor league) 5 months later sold to Red Sox.
Major league debut in Fenway on 7-11-1914.
Had 3 legal guardians by 19, Parents, Catholic Order of Jesuit Missionaries and Jack Dunn manager of the Baltimore Orioles.
When Dunn brought him to the ballpark, the others players said, "Well, here's Jack's newest babe" and the name stuck.
One of a kind.
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| 35 | Mattinglyinthehall
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Fri, Jul 26, 2002, 08:37
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Ahh yes. Brien Taylor. The great Yankee hope. For a few years, I don't know how many sports pages sentences icluded the phrase "but when Taylor come up..."
He was coming along fine when he hurt himself in a bar fight (still underage iirc). I forget is he needed surgery, but he was never the same and he never got called up.
He currently sports a 108.00 ERA for an Indians class-A affiliate.
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| 36 | Species
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Fri, Jul 26, 2002, 11:47
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LMAO MITH. Not only did the sports pages utter that phrase, but when the Yankees were still toiling in the 2nd half of the Division I uttered those very words to my wife a dozen times!
Yeah -- bar fight hurt his shoulder. What a freakin' idiot.
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| 37 | Mattinglyinthehall
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Fri, Jul 26, 2002, 12:24
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Species
OT (sorry) - Remember Andre Robertson, groomed as the successor to (and improvement upon) Bucky Dent? In Aug 1983 - what would have been his first full season in the bigs, he got into an auto accident, ending his season. This after they moved Bucky for Lee Mazzilli in '82. Obviously, the bigger and unselfish story was that Robertson, after uncertainty that he would ever regain the use of his arms and legs actually came back and play in '84 and '85. But he was never the same. The backup plan, as I'm sure you are all too familiar with was [shudder] Bobby Meacham. Like Soriano with the glove and much worse than that at the plate. Whenever I think about that '85 team that came pretty close I have to think that replacing Meacham's 481 at bats and 156 games at SS with a healthy 4th season from Robertson could have been enough to make up the 2 game deficit in the final standings. I'll probably always be bitter about that year.
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| 38 | silver-n-black
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Fri, Jul 26, 2002, 12:57
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MITH-
That Brien Taylor story was from April 2000.
Just an FYI.
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| 39 | Mattinglyinthehall
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Fri, Jul 26, 2002, 13:05
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Thanks S-N-B, should have occurred to me that Danys Baez is not in class-A. (duh)
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| 40 | Perm Dude
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Fri, Jul 26, 2002, 13:05
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Interesting info on Taylor, MITH. I hadn't realized he was still playing in 2000. Class A-ball, even! I don't see him on the current roster, so I wonder if he's still playing. At 31, I doubt it, but I hoped he saved his money.
pd
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| 41 | Mattinglyinthehall
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Fri, Jul 26, 2002, 13:07
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After they way his 2000 season was going, probably not too likely. Have to admire his resolve, though.
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| 42 | Gman15
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Fri, Jul 26, 2002, 13:12
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Did a player search for Brien Taylor on minorleaguebaseball.com - no hits. Probably out of baseball unless he's in an independent league.
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| 43 | Perm Dude
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Fri, Jul 26, 2002, 13:21
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You guys gotta love some of the stories on this site. Some Independent leagues stuff.
pd
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| 44 | BoSoxFan9
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Fri, Jul 26, 2002, 23:57
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I've heard before that some scouts prefer high school pitchers over college pitchers. When I asked why, I was informed that it was only partly due to less mileage on the arm and it is mostly due to the fact that raw talent is easier to shape when they get them into the rookie leagues. I was fortunate to have been in high school with Pokey Reese, another high school draftee.
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| 45 | BoSoxFan9
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Sat, Jul 27, 2002, 00:01
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And Corey Jenkens was drafted out of Dreher High School in Columbia, SC, by my Red Sox. After a few years in the minors he dropped baseball and picked up football and is now slated as the gamecocks starting QB.
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