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Subject: Charges against SF OF's trainer
Posted by: Catfish
- Leader [35262811] Thu, Feb 12, 2004, 12:13
Things may be unfolding for San Francisco OF's trainer. |
| 1 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Thu, Feb 12, 2004, 13:54
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Really not looking good for Bonds right now... :/
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| 2 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Feb 12, 2004, 13:56
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Wonder if he'll finally admit to what he's been taking to acquire all of that lean muscle mass at his age?
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| 3 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 12, 2004, 14:31
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It's not like they're going to take any homers away. If they get rid of steroids, Barry will be happy because no one will ever touch his record.
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| 4 | Pete Rose
ID: 5044129
Thu, Feb 12, 2004, 16:14
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Hey, can that article use Bonds name without his permission!!!!{/sarcasm}
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| 5 | The Pink Pimp
ID: 5313323
Fri, Feb 13, 2004, 02:10
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Where can I get a SF jersey with "Balco" on the back?
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| 6 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Tue, Feb 17, 2004, 22:48
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Should only be a matter of time now. The names of those players will come out sooner or later. And when they do...
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| 7 | Perm Dude
Dude
ID: 30792616
Tue, Feb 17, 2004, 23:39
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Everyone is calling this guy Bonds' personal trainer, but it appears he had professional (and not-so-professional) relationships with a number of players. Either the press knows more that it is letting on about Bonds, or it senses that the only way this would be a story right now is if they can attach, and stick, Bonds' name to this guy early in the process.
pd
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| 8 | Razor
ID: 451181621
Wed, Feb 18, 2004, 01:32
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Er, this guy is Bonds' personal trainer.
From an Article on Bonds in Muscle & Fitness
They are buddies from childhood. This article, ironically, has been cited by Bonds supporters as evidence that Bonds doesn't use steroids. Apparently, they think that just because he trains hard means he doesn't juice. At his age with the way he trains and looks, it's almost evidence that he does.
Honestly, it couldn't get any worse for Bonds at this point without him being outright named by someone. The two men he credits for helping him build his training and nutrional regimen are going on trial for distributing steroids to MLB players. What are the odds that Bonds wasn't one of those players? Possible, I suppose, but with the massive muscle gain, the incredible hitting numbers and the sleezebags around him, the amount of circumstantial evidence around this steroid situation is sky high. Something's got to give.
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| 9 | holt
ID: 561113315
Wed, Feb 18, 2004, 02:28
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My question is how will this affect SF OF's production (and guys like Giambi and whoever else juices up). The heat is on - you'd think they have to stop shooting up. I'm avoiding guys I suspect of steroid-use in my fantasy drafts. At Bonds age the effect of him quitting could be tremendous (I guess - I'm no doctor). If there's any justice he'll hit .280 with 25 HR's and retire before breaking Aaron's record.
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| 10 | Toral
Sustainer
ID: 2111201313
Wed, Feb 18, 2004, 02:33
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I doubt any of the older players at least (Bonds, Sheffield, who has been named in one story I saw) would quit the stuff, if they are on it. Better to keep going, hope you aren't caught, and follow the maxim, "deny, deny, deny".
I would be more worried (fantasy-wise) about younger players who are on it. They might say to themselves. "Oh oh, looks like people are serious; I want to have another 5 or 10 years, better get off the stuff now." They (whoever they are) might have a tough year this year.
Toral
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| 11 | holt
ID: 561113315
Wed, Feb 18, 2004, 05:21
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I was bored - found this:
Withdrawal symptoms have been reported among users who discontinue steroids. These include mood swings, depression with suicidal behavior, and aggression with violent and assaultive behavior. Complicating the withdrawal picture, quitting steroids causes sometimes-dramatic reductions in size and strength. That loss of size and strength may contribute to the depression associated with steroid withdrawal.
Research on steroid withdrawal syndromes is still developing. Withdrawal symptoms vary, depending on the individual and the type of steroid used.
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| 12 | Perm Dude
Dude
ID: 30792616
Wed, Feb 18, 2004, 11:11
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Razor, I understand he is the personal trainer of Bonds, but apparently the guy is also the personal trainer of other players.
My point is that Bonds' name is being bandied about here but no one yet knows if he actually got drugs from the guy.
pd
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| 13 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 04:40
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They do now. I'm not really shocked at all, but tomorrow is going to be an interesting day...
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| 14 | Stud For Hire
ID: 26021299
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 11:27
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My big question is, now that the cat is out of
the bag, what does this mean for those
involved. What are the chances of
suspension and if so for how long. Baseball's
rules seem pretty vague with this kind of thing.
If there is a trial, it might turn into a kobe bryant
kind of deal where it won't be an issue until
the post season.
I've got the 16th pick in a message board draft,
and it looks like it will come down to Bonds,
Prior, or Schilling. There is one more guy up
before me, and he has an affection for bret
boone, so I'm thinking that's who he'll pick, but
I wouldn't be surpised to see him go with prior
either. If he doesn't take Prior, I'm thinking
thats the way to go, but its tough to turn away
from the production bonds has put forth in the
last 3 seasons...
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| 15 | Perm Dude
Dude
ID: 30792616
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 11:30
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That's interesting news. The trainer himself has been very clear that Bonds himself refused the 'roids, turning them down flat (though the trainer was coy on whether anyone else actually took any). I'd like to see what comes out tomorrow as well.
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| 16 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 20:42
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Personally, I believe Schilling will adjust really, really well...get good run support that Pedro never seems to get, and be over 25 wins with a million Ks and a 3 ERA.
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| 17 | The Left Wings
ID: 6142019
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 22:55
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Just like the woman who's sueing Kobe Bryant, this trainer is just trying to make some money out of this. I'll predict that he's going to write a book about the whole investigation once several people goes to jail and everything is said and done.
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