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Subject: RIBC Discussion #2
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 18:44
Time to move to a new thread.
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| 127 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 07:56
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Let's stick with my clock proposal in [36]. I'll repeat it here:
Starting Saturday morning, increase the clock to 12 hours through round 9. Continue to suspend the clock during the same 1am-7am period (EST)
If we make it through 9 rounds before Monday, we'll suspend the clock and pick it up Monday morning (with the normal 6 hour clock again). Also, if we get to the end of round 9 and there are any vacant picks, we'll wait for them before continuing round 10.
I'll be in and out today, but around for most of the day. If you want to leave a queue, I can handle it. I already have a queue from jumpball.
J has until 4:20 this afternoon.
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| 128 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 07:58
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Just to clarify - if we make it through round 9, suspending the clock until Monday does not necessarily mean suspending the draft until Monday. If we can continue to inch forward, let's do so.
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| 129 | Guru
ID: 2524958
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 09:26
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The rationale thread was getting to be a chore to reorganize. Please try to follow these few simple rules:
1. When it is your turn to make a pick, also post your rationale from 2 rounds prior. If you are not ready with the rationale, then please post a placeholder entry. It is much simpler for me to go back and insert the text into an existing post slot than it is to splice in a completely new post slot.
2. If the manager(s) in front of you have neglected to post rationales or placeholders, please post placeholders for them before posting yours.
3. If you post a pick for someone else from their queue, please post a placeholder in the rational thread as well so that it is ready for the next rationale.
When you are ready to post a rationale for which there is a placeholder, either post it here or post it in the rationale thread. I can copy the text into the appropriate placeholder slot and then delete the out of sequence post.
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| 130 | Trip
ID: 2210302613
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 09:34
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I will be in and out this morning and out this evening. Hopefully I will get my picks in before tonight.
Guru-no rush, but you're up in our keeper league
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| 131 | Guru
ID: 2524958
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 12:36
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Swell. Thome broke his finger.
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| 132 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 257161713
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 12:53
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I'm getting ready to go to the Texas Tech / Iowa State Basketball game. The draft is too far from me to leave a queue at this point. I'll check back in a couple of hours.
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| 133 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 14:53
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Just got on. Need to figure out what's going on, but will have my pick shortly.
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| 134 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 16:31
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Guru, Contreras was at the top of my list, but I decided to go a different way--to a guy not even on my list--for different reasons. Man this draft is getting harder instead of easier.
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| 135 | Guru
ID: 2524958
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 16:34
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I was actually worried that Species might take Contreras, given his Yankee bias. But I suppose he really didn't need another starting pictcher at this juncture, and Nixon was the highest rated hitter on my list, too.
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| 136 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 17:01
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Through 142 picks, here are the tallies by position (making some judgments about split elig):
5 C
15 1B
9 2B
13 3B
13 SS
35 OF
37 SP
15 RP
Assuming that the difficult positions are C, 2B, and SS, a complete roster needs 4 of them (incl. MI). Only one team has 3 of those slots filled, while seven teams have only one of them filled.
Two teams have no relievers. Two teams have only one starter.
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| 137 | blue hen
ID: 4300290
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 17:04
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I like Contreras quite a bit. Usually when a player has a good strikeout rate and bad numbers elsewhere, it's a decent indicator for his future. That's the good news. The bad news is that it's unclear if that particular effect is different for a *cough* 32-year-old than it is for a 23-year-old. There really aren't many precedents to match up with. Hideo Nomo isn't a great comparison because he did everything well from the start. Rene Arocha might be a good example, but 27 isn't exactly old. Arocha had a good strikeout rate but never harnessed the rest of his game. I'm optimistic about Contreras but the best part is that he'll be a precedent we can use to evaluate other players who are comparable.
Trot Nixon has been sticking out like a sore thumb for quite some time. His OPS is high, but I think he overachieved (though not as much as Mueller) and he doesn't steal and could get lost in a powerful Boston lineup.
Pretty sure I won't be picking today, but hopefully some of my guys will still be there.
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| 138 | Trip
ID: 2210302613
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 17:24
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I was all set to grab Contreras or Varitek. 2 rounds in a row Guru and Ref have swiped my guys.
Anyone besides KKB and darkside:
I have a 2 man queue and my two rationales to give to you if you'll take 'em.
If the two in my queue are gone, I will not be able to make my pick until later tonight. There are too many other options to consider right now.
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| 139 | smartone
ID: 35254317
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 17:25
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Trip, if you want, I will be happy to trade my #10 and #11 round picks for your #10-11 round picks
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| 140 | Trip
ID: 2210302613
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 17:33
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If both of the guys in my 2-man queue are gone I would consider that, but I would have to see who was taken first.
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| 141 | smartone
ID: 35254317
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 17:34
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thanks, Trip, there is a specific player that I am after, if he is gone - there's no deal on my side as well. Let's wait.
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| 142 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 17:40
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Well, at least it wasn't only Guru who was looking at Contreras ahead of me. UGH! Back to the drawing board.
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| 143 | Trip
ID: 2210302613
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 18:00
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Bout to take off...any takers on the cue?
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| 144 | smartone
ID: 35254317
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 18:05
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i'll take you queue, and if you want (and if your top-2 guys go off the Board - I'll trade our draft picks)
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| 145 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 18:06
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Trip, if you trust me, you can send it to admin@kafenatid.net and I won't open the e-mail it until after I make my pick. If not, I won't take any offense. :)
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| 146 | Trip
ID: 2210302613
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 18:16
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I trust ya KKB, queue already sent to smartone.
Thanks
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| 147 | smartone
ID: 35254317
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 18:25
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Trip, i didn't receive an email (yet)
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| 148 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 18:33
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Doh! After setting out the ground rules for rationales, I made my pick this afternoon and forgot to post the correcsponding rationale! A senior moment.
At least Trip follows instructions. Thanks Trip.
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| 151 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 22:28
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When does darkside's clock expire?
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| 152 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 06, 2004, 22:57
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10:44 ET tomorrow morning.
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| 153 | smartone
ID: 3525976
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 09:38
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Trip, Please note that I didn't receive your queue via email. Would you like to pull the draft-trade?
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| 154 | Trip
ID: 2210302613
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 10:04
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Smartone, sorry I don't know what happened. I distinctly remember pressing the send/receive button but I can't find it in my sent items either. I have been getting some weird bounces with my e-mail as well.
Both players in my queue were still available and I hope you get who you were aiming for (unless I picked him). :)
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| 155 | smartone
ID: 3525976
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 10:17
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Trip: it's OK
Guru, ref, Species, jumpball, J: "my" guy is still there and I am interested to trade the 10-11th round picks with anyone who might be less focused on a specific player now
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| 156 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 12:08
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smartone - I would consider it if I got a 2nd flop in my favor....say in round 15.
So I could consider my 10, 11 and 15 for your 10, 11 and 15.
I'll be back in 30 min to either make my pick or consider an offer.
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| 157 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 12:56
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Ugh. KKB took both on my short list. I was also thinking of Kennedy as a fallback, but then Trip took him.
So, I'm going to need to rethink. Smartone, I'm open to an offer as well, but it would probably need to be something along the lines of what Species is asking for.
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| 158 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 13:02
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Guru, no problem. Just consider it payback from earlier rounds. ;)
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| 159 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 13:54
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Guru: tick........tick.........tick
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| 160 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 14:01
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I just offered smartone a trade offer via email, which I think he'll accept. Waiting for him to respond.
I offered him the same deal he offered in [155] - straight swap of 10th and 11th round picks, so he's probably on the clock now, not me.
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| 161 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 16:34
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With no trade in place, I would presume the clock is still running? ;-) tick....tick......tick
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| 162 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 16:47
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Actually, the clock is off today anyway, since we're past round 9 (per Commissioner ruling in [127]).
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| 163 | smartone
ID: 3525976
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 17:31
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i am back... let me get back to you in 5 mins
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| 164 | smartone
ID: 3525976
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 17:38
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trade
Guru gets picks 10.9, 11.8
smartone gets picks 10.4, 11.13
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| 165 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 17:42
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done deal.
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| 166 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 18:08
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smartone - if you hadn't done that trade, I'd have taken Wilkerson. But I didn't feel strongly enough about it, and figured I'd wait 5 more picks to see what developed.
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| 167 | smartone
ID: 3525976
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 18:43
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Guru, I have been considering Wilkerson since the 7th round and I was so surprised that he was so late on the board (I HAD to pick the player ranked #65 on the 148th pick) ... luckily I managed to get ALL 3 players I was considering together with Dmitri Young.
Now I have a looooong time to rest until it's my turn.
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| 168 | smartone
ID: 3525976
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 19:22
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Ref, you are up!
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| 169 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 19:50
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smartone, I whacked your latest rationale, since it was about 5 picks early (vs. your position in that round). I'll add it back in when the time comes. Don't worry about it.
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| 170 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 20:05
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Queue sent to KKB for round 10. I cheated and already posted my rationale for round 8.
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| 171 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 20:57
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Man Species, I kept going back and forth on Kolb and Fullmer. I needed both positions pretty badly. If you wouldn't have gotten him, surely somebody else would have before it got back to me anyhow.
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| 172 | beastiemiked
ID: 6117323
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 21:48
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I would like to move up so if anyone wants to swap draft picks for the next 2 rounds I'm all for it.
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| 173 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 22:07
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I hear you Ref. I had Fullmer targeted quite a while ago and have been waiting to pull the trigger. I'll write it more eloquently in the rationale thread, but Fullmer jumps from the 25th best offensive ballpark to the Number One offensive ballpark in the league.....yes even better than Coors. Of course, part of those numbers are due to the rather offensive Rangers pitching staff, but the bottom line is that The Ballpark is a great park for hitters and Fullmer is in line for a great year.
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| 174 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 257161713
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 22:18
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OT: bmd, Do you realize you have been skipped in the G20 Draft? 8 people have picked since you timed out on your pick 4.13. Just letting you know.....
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| 175 | blue hen
ID: 4300290
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 22:36
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Soooo slooooooow. The only good thing is that I have about two or three guys who haven't been picked in this run, but I bet they'll go soon.
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| 176 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 07, 2004, 22:42
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We slowed down on the weekend, as expected, but the pace should pick up again tomorrow. I'm hoping we can get get through round 17 by the end of Friday.
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| 177 | beastiemiked
ID: 6117323
Mon, Mar 08, 2004, 00:13
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Thanks Peter, didn't realize our clock was only 6 hours. That's a killer on the weekends especially when it is nice outside.
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| 178 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Mon, Mar 08, 2004, 02:39
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Ouch Guru. It gets a little worse. I hear Chase Utley is taking grounders at first. Better pick him up quick.
Jim Thome (1B) PHI 3/7/2004
Thome's broken finger could keep him out as long as eight weeks, the Philly Inquirer reports. Three weeks is the best-case scenario for Thome, but six to eight weeks is the worst-case scenario. The Phillies won't know if Thome needs a pin for his finger until Monday, when he visits a hand specialist back in Philadelphia.
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