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0 Subject: OT: Poker - Texas Hold 'em tournament

Posted by: Species
- Leader [7724916] Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 18:50

Forgive the off-topic, but on Saturday I'm going to a card club to play in my first Texas Hold 'em poker tournament. The Texas Hold 'em game has been popularized by being shown on TV via the "World Series of Poker" in Vegas on ESPN and more recently with the "World Poker Tour" on...what is it...travel channel?

I never thought watching poker on TV would arouse such interest, but it did. The editing and commentary is actually pretty cool - the guys on TV give thought provoking commentary. And, to top it off, a regular schmoe like you and me rode an online poker tournament victory all the way to the 2003 World Series of Poker Championship and a $2.8 million prize......so delusions of grandure pop into the heads of all rookies like me.

The tourney I'm going to is a "Spread Limit", and looking at the high limits it's nearly "No Limit", which I like.

I've played a couple tournaments at buddy's houses, and have played online. But this will be my first crack at a real tournament at a real card club. I wanted to throw it out to the Gurupie collective to get anyone else's experiences, tips and general dicussion.

Tournament link

Thanks!
1azdbacker
      ID: 573212513
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 18:56
Find a way to always get a royal flush or four of a kind dealt to you like in Kenny Rogers "Gambler" movies. It makes the game much easier.

Sorry, no tips from me. Just want to wish you good luck.

:)
2Chris
      ID: 6348913
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 19:04
Watch Rounders!

Uh, seriously though, the one thing I've learned from poker(if you're interested in winning, as opposed to just having a good time) is to be very stingy about which hands you play. Losing the ante is nothing in the scheme of things compared to how much you go down playing an iffy hand that never develops.

Of course, you probably know that much, so I'm not sure if that's any help. The one thing I do know(from what I'm told) is that tournaments are an entirely different animal, and it's easy to get beat badly your first time out. Of course, either way, it's a nice learning experience.

Best of luck! Have fun, no matter what...I sound like a little league coach.
3Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 19:09
Chris - I certainly want to win and do well, but from what I've learned it takes a lot of experience to get good - so this is step 2 for me. This is why I chose a tournament format for my first soiree' into card club poker.....you pay your buy in and that's it as opposed to just open poker where you're playing cash vs. cash where you can get your clock cleaned. I'll be satisfied with staying in the tourney for several hours and getting entertained and learning from playing.

I hear you about being stingy about which hands you play......but if you only play the good hands, how are you going to get others to continue betting against you? I think sometimes you have to bluff just to keep the other players guessing......but again I'm just a rookie so what the heck do I know.
4biliruben
      ID: 441182916
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 19:16
I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'll pretend that I do.

If the table is tight, be stingy. If the table is loose, by less stingy.
5KnicksFan
      Donor
      ID: 30815418
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 19:19
If the table is tight, be stingy. If the table is loose, be less stingy.

Yeah, the same goes for women.
6Chris
      ID: 6348913
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 19:22
That's very true, it is important to keep the others guessing. Doesn't mean you throw a whole lot of money away, but maybe, early on, after the game has settled in a bit and people are becoming familiar with everybody, you just play a hand that really should not be played. That will stick in their minds as the game progresses.

It's difficult to say because, like you, I've only played pretty much with people I know and "non-professionals", so the strategy is very different.

Does sound like the perfect opportunity for you to learn the ropes, and it should be enjoyable if nothing else. I'd be curious to hear how a "normie" like you or me fares in this sort of thing, so I hope you write a detailed report of the happenings this weekend :)
7Snake
      ID: 17359615
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 19:35
I play holdem and love it... as for playing hands and bluffing.. I'd say always play tight, play only good starting hands... you might think its important to be unpredictable, but if people think you only play good hands, then you will be able to bluff later on and steal some pots. If people perceive you as unpredictable, they will probably start calling you more often. So it can really work both ways... find a way that fits your style.
8Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 19:36
Species, if you want to get a little more complicated, look for some sites that break down odds for each hand you get...

A have a couple of books on No Limit, but found this site to be quite knowledgeable when I just did a quick search, best of luck, and be sure to report back.

Link
9biliruben
      ID: 441182916
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 19:45
Hold 'em outs and odds.
10beastiemiked
      ID: 262411016
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 21:26
A few quick tips:

1. Don't follow Bili's advice. If the table is tight then play loose because it'll be easier to bluff players out of pots because most players at tight tables are playing just to stay alive. If the table is loose then be much more selective about your hands. Players will notice that you are playing tight and won't give you much action. Counter this by trapping players with monster hands or even reraising even if you miss the flop.

2. Rebuy. This tourney is structured in way that it'll be very difficult to make it very far without rebuying. I can understand if you don't want to put down another 60 bucks but it'll be very hard to get far in this tourney without rebuying. From my experience with rebuy tourney's, the tables will be VERY loose the first few rounds. Don't try and limp in with hands in early position(unless you've got a premium hand) because more than likely someone will reraise.

3. There are going to be some really good players there. If you've never played in a tourney before they'll be able to tell. My suggestion is to review this site. This will give you a good idea of some common tells. I wouldn't worry too much about trying to see tells from other people just make sure they aren't picking up your tells.

4 Above all else, have fun.
11TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 150521415
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 22:42
If you are really interested in Texas Hold 'Em I recommend reading Hold 'em Poker by David Sklansky and Mason Malmuth. If you are just beginning it can be a sort of a difficult read but I believe it helps a lot with your game. This book was recommended to me, I read it and was very pleased with it. If you decided to read it, let me know if you like it.

Also. If you would like maybe we could get some Gurupies playing at a $$$ table at PokerStars.com (where I like to play online).

Thanks
THK
12beetski
      ID: 1718418
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 22:50
In the beginning of the game, when the table is full it's gonna be tough to win unless you have the best hand, but easy to win if u do have a good hand. No one is gonna stay in on a draw in the beginning because thy haven't been abe to build up their stacks. No one is gonna run a full house on the turn and river. So if ur dealt a strong hand when the table is full play it, and play it strong, if u have crap, sit back and watch, maybe study a few guys see what their story is. I'm assuming your playing with experienced players. There's nothing wose than when people are just plain lucky and stay in for everything and just keep getting the hands.
13TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 150521415
      Thu, Apr 29, 2004, 22:50
RE #10-
Species be sure to follow the advice of #2 for sure. I have played in re-buys online (which take forever compared to normal tourneys btw) and you must re-buy to have a chance to win. Not to mention it is 2k in chips for the rebuy as opposed to starting with just 1k. Very good idea to rebuy if you are planning to go to the final table.

Also, I agree about tournaments being a much more fun way to learn how to play and minimizing losses. However, if you do play in a $ game just remember strategies are much different (see my above post).

Also the book I am recommending is Hold 'em Poker for Advanced Players THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, so be careful to get the right book! The version not for advanced players will be a slow read for anybody that has any idea about Hold 'Em at all IMO and would be a waste unless you follow up with the above recommendation.

THK
14Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Fri, Apr 30, 2004, 00:23
Thanks all.......I will consider everything, except bili's advice ;-)

The book I picked up was Winner's Guide to Texas Hold 'Em Poker by Ken Warren. It has the odds of hands and the one thing I realized that I didn't consider hard enough my first few times was the importance of position in your betting. I saw the Sklansky book but this one had a snazzier cover.....lol......what's the old saying, don't judge a book by it's cover? ;-)

Dumb question: In the setting I'm going to, do you have to lose all your chips to rebuy? Or can you just rebuy a round or two in?? I can certainly afford it, so worrying about the next $60 isn't prohibitive.

I will definitely write up a review of my day......and for anyone who hasn't put their $.02 in please feel free. Thanks to all for the suggestions and links, they will be considered.
15Eat Acid
      ID: 11355300
      Fri, Apr 30, 2004, 03:24
Species--just to let you know, Warren to Sklansky is like Hamburger to Filet Mignon. As far as I understand, rebuys are rebuys, and add-ons are add-ons, so technically you'd have to go busted to rebuy. However I suspect that is not the case, anytime a tournament can get more of your money they are going to do so.

My personal advice would be not to play a hand during the first go around the table and see where all the action is going to take place. Unless you look down at a monster of course. Once you figure out who the big raisers are, you'll use them to determine whether or not you can play. Hopefully they'll act before you most of the time, ie they are on your right. Anytime you can limp in and see a flop for one bet with a little pocket pair, or some medium suited connectors, you are going to receive alot of value for your hand, and noone can put you on it when you hit. I tripled up in my last tournament with 3-3 in the small blind, flop came down A-Q-3 and two aces went to war with one another. Alas, my delusion of grandeur got cracked, I ended up 6th out of 200. Nice prize, but first was a seat in the big one. I'll play in it someday, but its not looking like this year.

Good luck,
EA
tommymoore-party/empire
tommymoore98--ultimatebet


16StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Apr 30, 2004, 10:25
Species, All I can say is good luck!

My overall experience in poker in general is that there is a difference between trying to win it all and simply trying not to lose. If you are not willing to take a chance (albeit a calculated risk) then it is pretty unlikely you have a chance at winning the whole thing (IMO). Anyone can win a sure hand. The trick is learning how to maximize the pot when you win the hand. Also knowing the odds of the game you are playing is crucial. Even if you get the right cards thrown, what is the liklihood of winning? Those things can be learned through experience, which I'm sure this will be for you. Don't be afraid to lose, but don't throw your money away either.

Best of luck. I always loved to play a friendly game of poker, but know better than to get in a "professional" game. A tournament like that sounds pretty interesting though. I say go for broke. Playing conservatively probably won't take you very far in a tournament, but I yield to the "experts" or at least those with experience. Have fun!
17Madman
      ID: 503552218
      Fri, Apr 30, 2004, 10:36
Wear sunglasses.

The eyes are the window to the soul. Most of your top poker players wear sunglasses when they play. It relaxes them and makes it harder for people to tell if your bluffing.
18beastiemiked
      ID: 2601988
      Fri, Apr 30, 2004, 11:10
Wearing sunglasses also makes it a lot easier to watch other players without looking like a hawk. Plus, sunglasses makes you look much cooler.
19Mikel
      ID: 22340312
      Fri, Apr 30, 2004, 11:12
wear those swimming goggles with the hologram sharks in them...throw people off their game. ;)

um yeah, I'll stick to Crazy 8's.

Good Luck!
20TB
      Leader
      ID: 31811922
      Fri, Apr 30, 2004, 11:25
I enjoyed the link in post #10. Some great info about tells. I really think you can sucker a hawk in by showing an obvious rookie tell on the first couple bad hands you have and then playing a very strong hand in the same manner.

Swimming goggles with the hologram sharks sounds cool, but I would seriously consider some big Elton John glasses.
21Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Fri, Apr 30, 2004, 12:10
EA - figures I'd buy the hamburger! No biggie - I'm just starting, but if I plan to do this with any seriousness/regularity, I will pick up the Sklansky book as well.

This Warren guy REALLY has it in for old people! Says they rarely bluff and stuff....kinda funny what a stereotype he has.
22Eat Acid
      ID: 11355300
      Fri, Apr 30, 2004, 13:22
Species---It all depends on what you want to get out of it, kind of like fantasy baseball. Some people can have fun picking a bunch of guys that they like, while the gurupie kingdom wants to kick tail.

The best NL Hold-em book in my opinion is TJ Cloutier and Tom Mcevoy's Championship NL Hold-em. TJ is the best player in the world never to have won the big one, he's a former Montreal Alouette TE and a Texas road gambler who's made his living playing for 30 years. The best limit book is the one THK mentioned.

A great site is www.pokerpages.com, download their software and you can play in free tournaments every hour that are rated so people just don't play like jackasses. Its great because you can learn games that are foreign to you, like Omaha and 7-Stud, both straight and hi-lo split. Pot limit, No limit, whatever you want. Www.cardplayer.com is very useful as well, they have back issues of all of their articles online.
23R9
      Leader
      ID: 2624472
      Sun, May 02, 2004, 10:17
I've always played poker with my friends, but to be honest we're below what I'd call 'amateur' level. I d/l'ed the applet from pokerpages.com and have been playing in the free No Limit Hold'Em tournaments, the same game they play on the WPT. (Or do they play other games there, and just play Hold'Em at the final table?)

Anyway, I've learned alot and its a blast. Too bad I suck. ;) Still a great way to learn the game, for anyone in the same boat I'm in.
24Madman
      ID: 2143628
      Sun, May 02, 2004, 10:42
I'm not sure if playing on the internet can prepare you for a real game.

On the internet you can't see any of the other players and they can't see you. A major part of poker is trying to read the other players. How can you do that on the internet?
25R9
      Leader
      ID: 2624472
      Sun, May 02, 2004, 10:47
Well, one first has to get the rules down. ;) I agree completely, but up until yesterday I didn't even know half the lingo, or what's worth betting on and what isn't. Once I get the odds and rules down, I can worry about trying it against real live people.
26beastiemiked
      ID: 262411016
      Sun, May 02, 2004, 13:29
The internet is a great way to learn. Some people are so concerned about reading opponents in live games that they make stupid decisions because they think they got a "read" on an opponent.
27Madman
      ID: 2143628
      Sun, May 02, 2004, 13:45
You can play Texas Hold Em at Yahoo for free in case people don't know as well as many other card games.

Yahoo's game area is not bad. I play their pool alot.
28Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Sun, May 02, 2004, 16:40
Okay boys........here goes - and you know me, I can't just say I was xx place - I've got to set the mood ;-)

The Bay 101 Club is probably not your typical poker house. Built from the ground up roughly 10 years ago, this building has the height of a 2 story building - a graceful fountain with dolphins (kinda their logo) adorns the very spacious entrance with 40+ foot high ceilings. A stucco exterior with large columns in front as well.

As you walk in, the marble-adorned atrium greets you, granting you access to the club. Straight ahead through double doors is a banquet area - perfect for either a Little House on the Prarie reunion or perhaps a bachelor party. Just to the left of that is a sports bar, and to the right a cafe.

More to the left is the first of the two gaming floors - this one concentrated on the various Asian games as well as their "21st Century Blackjack" where you can't bust. To the right is the main poker floor, where 40 tables await you. This wasn't your typical "back room" poker spot, with darkly tinted windows hide an air of seediness......this brightly lit, brightly painted room was inviting.

I made my way to the cage and paid my buy-in. Being a total rookie of course I was nervous. I got my receipt and my table assignment. With still over 30 min before the tournmant started, I kibbitzed a bit to get the lay of the land. Wanting to get the cobwebs out, I got some chips and sat down at an open table......and proceeded not to come close to winning a single hand! lmao

At the table the floor supervisor was sorting the chips. They have TV monitors that typically show sports or whatever, but in the side of the room where our tourney was they had the monitors noting what round we were in, the blinds, how much time in the round, etc. Was very cool and I would imagine typical of most poker tourneys.

My table ran the whole spectrum of the types of poker players that frequent card rooms and tourneys - at least as defined what I now affectionately call my "Hamburger Book" (see Eat Acid's post #15):

- off duty card dealer
- the loud mouth, talkative type
- Mr. Advice
- The drunk (or on his way)
- A guy who shows his card unnecessarily (same guy was #2 on this list too)
- Some good players who shut their traps and kept their eyes on the game

When the tourney started, we still had 3 empty seats.....but the dealing started on the nose. Two of the seats filled in the next 10 mins.....less a few blinds from their stacks. The game was a $70 buy in with 1 $60 rebuy in the first four 15-minute rounds. As expected, things were loose in the beginning with a fair number of people in flops and showdowns. By the time all was settled, we had a tournament of 74 players.

I hadn't won a hand when I decided to go all in with QJ suited about midway through the 2nd round. IMO the worst thing you can do is play TOO conservatively to the point where you either haven't busted in those 1st four rounds so you could rebuy (at 2000 chips vs. your original 1000) - OR - you don't rebuy at all but only have 1500 in chips when other have either won more than the rebuy and have 4000-5000 or others who have rebought have 2000 or more. Oh.....and I lost that hand and rebought....lol

Some hand highlights at my first table:

- Pocket kings. I raised pre-flop - not huge, but enough to protect my hand. I think there were only 3 in on the flop, which came out with a king, so I was trips. With $200 the minimum bet at the time, I came out with 400....one guy called, one folded. The next card wasn't a huge threat (although there were 2 suited cards) so I bet pretty strongly and the other guy folded. A nice pot, but obviously I'd rather have gotten to the showdown.

- A 5 suited. I think I'd won another hand or two by then, and was strong in chips, probably top 3 at the table minimum. I was basically semi-bluffing as the flop came off with 3 players. One of my suits came up, and no ace yet. I stayed in for the turn and there was still jack squat....so I decided to bluff and bet big. I got called and was crapping my pants. So what happens at the river? The dealer turns over a 5, so I've got a pair of bleeping fives. Bluntly, I made my stupidest play of the day and bet the minimum. I should have bet big to get his fold, but at that point I figured I was sunk. He calls........I turn over my A-5 and he tosses his cards in. Needless to say that hand generated a lot of puzzled looks at the table! I assume the guy I was playing (the guy who was DRINKING, btw) had an ace and was hoping to catch it on the river. He probably had a good kicker, but there wasn't anything on the board to help him.

We ended up getting shuffled off to consolidate tables as players dropped out. At the next table my fate rose and sank:

- Pocket Queens - got a queen on the flop and was in a very commanding position, although there were two hearts on the flop as well. To my delight, there was a LOT of pre-flop betting, so there was a pretty nice pot - 4 guys in on the flop. My coming out bet (in an early position) after the flop took 2 guys out, and it was me and one dude. He called my first bet. Another heart on the turn, so 3 hearts showing and I'm concerned. Still, I TRY to go all in and speak out loud I'm doing so, but only used one hand to push my first stack of chips in - rookie lesson learned in that I must only make ONE motion across the betting line. Oops. So maybe 1/3 of my stack can't go in......and the guy calls. The river comes and it's not a heart, so I properly go all in this time - the guy calls and I show my trips and won a pretty huge pot.

- KQ non-suited - if I'm not my table's chip leader, I'm pretty close at this point. Some pre-flop betting occurs and 3 are in on the flop. I get a K on the flop (no ace) so I feel good. I'm last to act -- the first guy bets the minimum, the next guy goes all in. I call, the other guy folds. I turn over my KQ and he throws over A 10 - there is a 10 on the flop, but all in with THAT? Gutsy or dumb? Good question. No help to either on the turn. Then the $hithead gets a (bleeping) 10 on the River!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

That took probably 2/3 of my stack. I would've been a 500 lb. gorilla had I not gotten that bad beat (although it statistically probably doesn't qualify as one, THAT's what *I* am calling it! lol)

I hung around a bit - got moved to another table when they did a chip change, which left me with 3 500 chips (we're now up to 500 small blind/1000 big blind). Luckily at that point I was on the button, so at least I could survive several more hands before the blinds ate me up. I eventually went all in on a Q8 suited and lost.

I ended up 24th out of the 74 person tournament - I would call that quite a success for my first go around. Looking at the monitor, 71 people rebought out of those 74, which I found hilarious. I learned a lot, had a BLAST, and can't wait to go again but with my buddies this time.
29Snake
      ID: 17359615
      Sun, May 02, 2004, 17:38
Not bad species.. but I wish I could play in that tournament :p
30Mikel
      ID: 31444211
      Sun, May 02, 2004, 19:04
Great imagery.
31TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 150521415
      Sun, May 02, 2004, 19:13
I had to wait 3 and 1/2 more years until I can play in a real live tournament in a casino. We have live tournaments all the time with friends around here but it isn't anything really.

Nice job Species, sorry about the bad river beat!

THK
32wiggs
      ID: 63301420
      Sun, May 02, 2004, 20:28
species. Sounds like you had a great time. I am waiting for my chance to play with the big boys, but for now, small tourney with the friends is going to have to be where i get my rush.
33Eat Acid
      ID: 11355300
      Mon, May 03, 2004, 11:57
Wow Species, thats a heady performance for a first go. Congratulations and I hope you enjoyed yourself. Any beat where you have the best of it going in is a bad one. Yahoo's hold-em is sort of lame because noone cares and everyone plays to the river, its more like show-down.
34Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Mon, May 03, 2004, 18:44
The only thing that bums me out is that nobody caught the crack about the banquet hall: "perfect for either a Little House on the Prarie reunion or perhaps a bachelor party" - I thought that was a good crack! ;-)

Do most states have card rooms? Have any others ever gone, or have the opportunity to go? I definitely recommend it. If you can get a reasonably low buy-in, it's pretty reasonable entertainment.
35biliruben
      ID: 441182916
      Mon, May 03, 2004, 18:49
We're lousy with 'em here in Seattle, though until recently, many of them didn't offer hold 'em, just bj, pai-gow, and the rest of those sorts of games.

The many reservations offer a more complete set of options, and there is constant competition/regulatory friction between the reservations and non-res gambling.
36TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 150521415
      Mon, May 03, 2004, 22:12
Species-
Where are you located that DOES have card rooms? Here in OK there are many Indian reservations that are allowed video poker, slots, etc. They are pushing to get card tables other than BJ but to no avail thus far.

THK
37BayAreaBlueJays
      ID: 41751
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 00:48
THK.....Bay 101 club is in the South Bay Area,San Jose I believe.
39Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 15:16
Correct, BlueJays.

I *believe* California law regulates the number of card clubs and number of tables involved, and of course the types of games that can be played. Then the city involved has a lot of authority as well - I remember a lot of political hubub about Bay 101 when it was proposed.

There are two card clubs where I am at in California. The Bay Area has 4 or more that I am aware of: The Oaks in Emeryville, Casino San Pablo and Bay 101 along with the Garden City Card Club - which is a very cliche'-envoking card club in the back of a restaurant. You half expect to see Tony Soprano come out to shake your hand.
40Eat Acid
      ID: 11355300
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 19:18
I'm in Columbus Ohio which has two "charity" card rooms that travel between VFW halls and armories. The drop is pretty stiff, 5 on 50 in the 10-20, and 6 on 60 in the 3-6. My favorite game is 5 card omaha hi-lo split, there isn't a better game to build a pot because everyone catches a piece of the flop.
41Madman
      ID: 2143628
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 14:18
America Online has a pretty good Texas Hold Em game. It's free if you are an AOL subscriber.
42Piccolos
      ID: 2942759
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 17:12
TruePoker. Once your there you'll never look back. Best free game I've seen on the net. Just requires a small program download but it's all free and doesn't put any additional garbage on your computer. Well worth it.
43Madman
      ID: 2143628
      Thu, May 06, 2004, 11:50
Tru Poker is very nice. I downloaded it yesterday and it's alot of fun.
44ChicagoTRS
      ID: 32161813
      Tue, May 11, 2004, 11:11
poker without money is kind of pointless...
45Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Tue, May 11, 2004, 11:55
Went to my local club here on Saturday. Started with $100.00 on a $3-6 table. Stayed roughly even the first hour, then got moved to the "main" table (where they have a card shuffler! woo!) where I started to do very well and doubled my chips.

Then reality hit, and a lesson was learned.....

I was very successful with the group of players there - many older gentlemen who were playing pretty loose, IMO. Then 2 or 3 new players came and replaced the very generous older gentlemen, and my mistake was I didn't change MY play for the new players. Played too loose and lost most of my stack.

All in all, however, I only lost $40.00 (of my original $100) and got 4.5 hours of poker play for my money -- I could spend more on dinner for the family, so I felt I made good use of my money, had a great time and learned a lesson.
46j o s h
      ID: 194561110
      Tue, May 11, 2004, 12:03
Are you saying the family didn't get dinner Species;-)

Good job. I've reluctantly learned to play Texas hold'em of late. I say reluctantly cause that's what everyone wants to play these days it seems, so I go with the flow. I still prefer 5 draw, 5 stud and 7 stud... and of course lowball.
47Louky
      Sustainer
      ID: 231017110
      Tue, May 11, 2004, 14:53
Nice narrative Spieces, playing in a tourney tonight, this thread was a nice prelim. $50.00 buy in with another $50.00 available. I think they are expecting around 100 or so players, should be alot of fun. Best I have ever done is winning a 14 man golf group tourney, so this will be a step up. My goal is to survive at least the 1st table.
48Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Tue, May 11, 2004, 15:09
Good luck Louky! Can't wait to hear about it. Be sure to give us a recap.
49MadDOG
      ID: 55461114
      Tue, May 11, 2004, 15:33
Re: #44

Not sure what you mean by that? You mean poker without real money?

Regardless, TruPoker is alot of fun even though it's fake money. If you have to gamble for real, TruPoker has real tables you can play at. Actually, sounds like you might have a gambling problem if you can't play a computer game of poker without being able to enjoy it.

I used to gamble alot but now I find myself just doing fake stuff on the NET. Like fake sportsbooks, and fake poker, fake dog and horse racing, etc.

It's easier on the pocketbook and the blood pressure. :)

You're probably young. You'll learn.
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