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Subject: RIBC 2005 - draft discussion
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 12:43
Max Teams: 16
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Player Universe: All baseball
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 1
Trade End Date: August 28, 2005
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: None
Trade Review: Commissioner
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 162
Max Innings Pitched: 1350
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Sunday, Apr 3
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: R, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP
Minimum IP: 800 (will be monitored oustside of Yahoo)
The draft has been activated, but the official start time of the draft is 7am ET Monday, March 7. Picks prior to that time are allowed, but are optional and untimed.
Starting at 7am, we will institute a 6 hour clock. The clock will pause between 11pm and 7am ET. (We may also decide to relax the clock on the weekend, but this will be decided later in the week. Assume nothing!) If you time out, the draft will move on. Skipped picks can be made up at any time thererafter.
If your turn arises and you still have an outstanding skipped pick, I will probably move the draft on to the next picker. If we get well ahead of pace, I may relax that stance. But hopefully it will not become an issue. This also means that people on the turn have a single clock period to make their first pick, or both will be skipped. (The draft software will do this automatically.)
We will use this thread for logistical communications, to help others anticipate potential delays, to recruit someone to accept a queue, to announce or solicit trades, to coordinate changes in the clock for weekends, etc. Please check this thread regularly throughout the draft, as we will rely on it as the primary means of communication among RIBC managers.
Established draft etiquette is that no undrafted player names should be mentioned, and in the event of an infraction, should be edited out.
After two rounds have been completed, a separate draft rationale thread will be started. We will try to keep that thread on a 2 round lag. Therefore, after you make your pick in round 3, please immediately post your round 1 pick rationale, and so forth. I usually draft my rationales as I make picks, so that all I need to do when the time comes is copy and paste. I recommend that approach for everyone.
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| 389 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 13:17
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Hey Guru - TODAY would be nice! ;-)
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| 390 | Matt S in Guatemala
ID: 482231412
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 13:49
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Khahan has a queue for my next two picks. I won't have internet access until tomorrow evening.
Cheers from El Remate, Guatemala (nowhere town)
Matt S
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| 392 | beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 15:22
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I'm looking to move up for my next pick. Anyone interested drop me a line?
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| 393 | holt
ID: 6227147
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 17:58
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khahan has matt's queue...
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| 394 | holt
ID: 6227147
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 19:35
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anyone know the easiest way to get a hold of khahan? I'd really like to get my pick in without having to use a queue.
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| 395 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 19:36
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I e-mailed Khahan to let him know Matt's up.
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| 396 | holt
ID: 6227147
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 19:47
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crap. I probably should have taken brown first, then morris.
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| 397 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 19:59
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Well I feel better knowing that Brown would have been gone even if Matt hadn't taken him.
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| 398 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:01
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I like the Burrell pick Toral. He was on my list of possibilities.
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| 399 | beastiemiked
ID: 262411016
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:03
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Burrell was my guy. I'll wait my turn now.
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| 400 | holt
ID: 6227147
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:09
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man that was hard leaving preston wilson on the board this late in the draft, but I was just too short-handed on pitching.
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| 401 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:11
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Is anyone else having trouble getting to kafenatid.net?
All of the sudden I'm getting a page not found error.
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| 402 | holt
ID: 6227147
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:13
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nope - it's fine here.
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| 403 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:18
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Thanks, holt, but unfortunately that doesn't help me get caught up from the last 3 1/2 hours or know who's up.
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| 404 | jumpball
ID: 198192210
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:30
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Whatever was happening has just been corrected -- can I have that 10 minutes back? :-)
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| 405 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:39
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jumpball, I think the server burped. I had a quick instant when the site wouldn't come up. Refreshed and it was back.
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| 408 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 23:57
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Glad someone was at least thinking of Wilson. At this point in the draft seems like a pretty low risk, VERY high upside pick.
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| 413 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 14:55
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Nice pick of Gonzalez, KKB. I really thought he might slip back to me. He's very good and if Mesa loses 'it', he'll be the one filling his shoes.
I didn't intend to take any MR yet but then Gordon and Hawkins flew off the board and I figured I had to get Otsuka now.
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| 414 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 15:03
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darkside, I was actually looking at another MR in that pick and had considered him with my previous pick, but thought I could sneak him to the pick I got him with. I took Gonzalez over the other MR I was looking at because I like Gonzalez being behind Mesa and PIT not wanting to trade him to OAK. Makes me think he'll get a chance if/when Mesa falters even a little bit.
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| 416 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 16:10
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My 13.04 rationale is on my other PC-- i'll post later tonight. Sorry for the delay.
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| 418 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 17:50
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)(*&#$_(*#_+$)(* GURU!
I know he's a frickin' Indian, but did you REALLY need ANOTHER 1b???????????????????????
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| 420 | Peter N.@ds's
ID: 207141515
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 18:28
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Crap! I was hoping Brazaban or Broussard would make it back to me. Guess I was too early on Westbrook....ooops.
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| 421 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 19:01
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He's only my second first baseman. It seemed to me like I should someone in addition to Dunn. It's not like I'm stockpiling them.
I've been eyeing Broussard for several rounds, and decided that there were few enough options at 1B that I should act now. Sounds like I was right.
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| 423 | holt
ID: 6227147
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 19:44
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a middle reliever run in the 14th-15th rd? that seems unusual.
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| 424 | Ref
ID: 172121519
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 20:13
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Obviously, Lowe was supposed to be a SP, don't know how it came up C. Can kkb or guru fix that?
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| 425 | Athletics Guy
ID: 32131414
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 20:23
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I'd also like my Pedro Feliz pick to be edited. Kafenatid won't let me change him to 3B which is where I want him now. I think the problem only affects traded players because the others work fine.
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| 426 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 20:24
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I fixed Lowe's position.
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| 429 | holt
ID: 6227147
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 07:27
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sent a queue to guru for my next pick.
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| 430 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 07:58
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If Gordon hadn't been taken, scaring me into getting Otsuka, I would have taken Broussard. But, given that I've got two 1B and a 3B I figured I could let him go and wasn't surprised to see him snatched up. I think he's a great 15th round pick.
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| 431 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 09:35
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I moved Feliz to 3B.
I note that Khahan, who has been handling Matt S's queue, said that he (Khahan) would be out most of today. So we may have to wait awhile - unless someone else has his queue as well.
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| 432 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 09:44
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jumpball, you'll be happy to know that Rincon was who I was considering before taking Gonzalez. And no, I'm not interested in trading them. ;)
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| 433 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 09:56
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I've sent a round 16 queue to Guru.
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| 434 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 10:41
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KKB -- I had Gonzalez rated a tad higher too.
You sure you don't want to trade? I'll throw in my 26th round pick! :-)
holt [#423] -- There wasn't really a "run" on middle relievers last year, but the first one was taken in round 12 last year and the second in round 13.
You'll get my reasons for getting two in rounds 14 and 15 pretty soon.
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| 435 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 11:45
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I took a setup man in round 12 last year. Someone else took one in round 13, and then I took another in round 14. All three of those picks were disappointements. LaTroy Hawkins was also taken in round 14, although he might have been considered a closer at that point. Those guys were all picked before Francisco Rodriguez, who lasted until the middle of round 15.
Given that impressive bunch of early picks last year, I've been a bit gun shy this year.
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| 436 | Ref
ID: 172121519
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 11:47
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Well Khahan posted at about 8 am in the G20 thread and Matt S has posted his rationales due after this pick at 9:30, yet he hasn't picked. Not sure what's up.
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| 437 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 11:53
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Agree Ref.....but he times out in just over an hour and I assume we will not be waiting.
Like holt and Toral, I have sent a queue to Guru, so everyone be back at 1:00 ET and let's roll.
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| 438 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 11:57
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I'm on the horns of a bit of a dilemma.
Matt S is scheduled to time out at 1pm. With his traveling in Latin America, he's been relying on designated pickers to take his queue. I believe Khahan has handled most, if not all, of his queues.
Khahan posted elsewhere that he will be unavailable for much of today. I don't know whether he or Matt have made alternate arrangements or not. Unfortaunately, Matt's draft position is on the turn, so if he times out, 2 picks would be skipped.
If I was scheduled to pick next, I would be inclined to wait awhile longer, given Matt's difficult situation, and the fact that we are running way ahead of pace. Clearly, we are not at risk of running out of time.
I am not scheduled to pick next. However, I do have queues from both holt and Toral. So I probably do control the pace of the next two picks.
I feel somewhat honor bound to make those two picks as soon as Matt's clock expires. But I feel badly about sticking Matt with two skipped picks when he seems to be making a Herculean effort to keep the draft moving along.
Hopefully, Matt's picks will get made before 1:00, and all of this will be moot.
What do the rest of you think I should do if Matt times out?
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| 439 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 11:57
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I posted Matt's rationales. He posted them here last night.
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| 440 | Ref
ID: 172121519
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:09
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RE:438 (whew this is quite the thread) I'm cool with whatever you decide. I have my choice ready so unless it's nabbed before me, I'll be selecting as soon as I'm aware it is my turn.
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| 441 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:10
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I have a queue from Species as well. If we move ahead, it sounds like Matt risks getting pretty far behind.
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| 442 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:13
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Hmmm... Matt's pick was already due at the time that Khahan posted at 8am. Either he forgot, or perhaps he didn't have a current queue.
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| 443 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:20
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Re: 438. I say wait. Though we're far enough along that no MAJOR pick will be missed, Matt S' team will no doubt be handicapped by missing 2 picks and it sounds like a lot of people are willing/able to make their picks pretty quickly if things get going again. He could, easily, miss out on 10 picks or more through what I think most of us could agree is no fault of his own. It's not like he didn't send a queue. Matt S has, as Guru pointed out, made a HUGE effort to keep his portion of the draft moving despite his travels. Given that, I see no purpose in screwing him at this point in the draft. Also as Guru pointed out, we're WAY ahead of schedule. Giving some extra time for someone who has gone out of their way to keep the draft moving this whole time seems like the least we could do.
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| 444 | Slackjawed Yokel
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ID: 052347519
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:21
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I would be ok with waiting until holt's time is almost up. Like you said, we're well ahead of pace. As long as we can get to youngroman before the end of his day, we should still get a number of picks done today.
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| 445 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:23
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Let's wait.
Sportsmanship is not dead.
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| 446 | youngroman
ID: 382311611
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:39
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I am here until 1pm, then away until 5pm and back available until 7pm. so count on me doing my pick between 5 and 7pm (if I'm up of course).
Guru - I wanted to let you know that in post 435 you mentioned a lot of undrafted pitchers.
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| 447 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:43
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RE: #434 & #435
I was going to post more detail, but I didn't want to put names out there that hadn't been drafted yet.
"gun shy" ? -- i wish you had mentioned that earlier, Guru, I might have waited 2 more rounds! :-)
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| 448 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:49
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don't forget, I managed to get Brad Lidge in the 19th round last year. Unfortunately, I'm once again stuck in a similar position and need to come up with a surprise closer.
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| 449 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:55
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Matt S got his picks in, so that dilemma is resolved.
I made the queued picks for holt and Toral. Unfortunately, Species left a queue with only one name, and that name was taken. So we may have to wait awhile.
I'll clean up my faux pas in 435. Oops!
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| 450 | Matt S
ID: 122591611
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:59
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Wow that was lucky! I did send a queue to Khahan last night, however it seems he has been tied up. I went to the bank this morning and had a bit of a mixup, so decided to check my account online to make sure I wasn't overcharged. I figured I would also check to see who I got with my picks...only to see I had 16 minutes left!!!
Anyway, thanks for the plans to wait for me...it's much appreciated. I will try to check in later tonight to make my next picks, or send a queue. The town I'm staying in is on an island, whose power lines are currently in the lake. I'm hoping they will have everything up and running tonight, otherwise I'll have to walk over here again in the blistering heat. :-)
Sorry for the delay, hopefully things can move along quickly for the rest of this round...
Matt S in Flores
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| 451 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 13:01
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Let's close this thread off and start a new one.
Draft Discussion #2
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