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Subject: Baseball Announcers
Posted by: Toral
- [5529286] Mon, Mar 28, 2005, 21:26
A. Ignoring particular personalities who you might like or dislike, would you prefer to have on your baseball team's announcing staff:
1. Two professional baseball announcers (non-players);
2. One professional baseball announcer and one ex-player;
3. Two ex-players.
B. Would your preference be the same for your team's TV staff as its radio staff, and if not, why?
Toral
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| 1 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Mar 28, 2005, 22:43
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1. Vin Scully and John Miller
2. Vin Scully and Tim McCarver
3. Tim McCarver and Joe Morgan
B: Yes
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| 2 | Razor
ID: 302582611
Mon, Mar 28, 2005, 22:51
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Vin is a one man show. I would never want him to have the share duties with anyone.
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| 3 | allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Mon, Mar 28, 2005, 22:53
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Here's another thread on a somewhat similar topic...
I have to say that I think option B seems to provide the most balance and broadcast flow from whatever experience I've had over the years. Likewise for radio broadcasts.
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| 4 | Toral
ID: 5529286
Tue, Mar 29, 2005, 00:00
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Thanx for the link, aa. It was great. We don't seem to have the baseball interest to create a great thread like that nowadays. bluehen has been trying, but with little response.
Yes, back in the days of them threads, men were men....
Toral
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| 5 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Tue, Mar 29, 2005, 00:07
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I like B as well. But I can't stand 3 people in the booth, in any sport.
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| 6 | Toral
ID: 5529286
Tue, Mar 29, 2005, 00:14
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Ya, I can't think of any 3-people teams that have really worked well.. OK, Cosell, Meredith and Gifford maybe when MNF started. Because everybody who worked with Cosell hated him, though the listeners of the time didn't know it -- but even as teenagers you can sense tension in a booth --and a 2-on-1 on Cosell seemed fair....
Toral
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| 7 | blue hen
ID: 353412123
Tue, Mar 29, 2005, 00:20
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I actually didn't hate Luis Gonzalez.
1. Harry Kalas
2. John Miller
3. Vin Scully
4. John Sterling
Honestly, I've had some pretty bad home announcers in my life: Dave Niehaus, any of the NESN Red Sox guys, Skip Caray (and Pete Van Wieren).
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| 8 | Toral
ID: 5529286
Tue, Mar 29, 2005, 00:29
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I like Skip Caray a lot. Dry, acerbic wit.
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| 9 | biliruben
ID: 531202411
Tue, Mar 29, 2005, 02:15
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I like Niehaus, too, in his folksy way. Too nice a guy to be top-tier, but fits Seattle perfectly, imho.
Of course Scully.
I think it's important that the announcer fit the city. Niehaus wouldn't work at all in NY or Philly, for instance.
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| 10 | Catfish
ID: 301191711
Wed, Mar 30, 2005, 13:59
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B is best, as long as it's Buck Martinez and not Joe Carter.
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| 11 | holt
ID: 6227147
Wed, Mar 30, 2005, 16:57
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Jack Buck and Mike Shannon on cards radio will always be my favorite team.
John Miller ruins sunday night baseball for me. just can't stand to listen to him talk. same goes for McCarver. when my dad and I watch games that McCarver is on we usually just end up making fun of mccarver the whole game.
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| 12 | Filthy Rich
ID: 35119816
Wed, Mar 30, 2005, 18:39
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I am sometimes surprised seeing some ex players names as announcers or writers. Guys like John Kruk and Joe Carter for example. I was trying to think of some current players that I wouldn't expect to, that might become an announcer or writer when they retire. Couldn't really think of any off the top of my head, but was thinking Johnny Damon or Dave Wells would make good announcers.
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| 13 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 30, 2005, 18:56
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I knew Harold Reynolds would be an announcer forever. I wrote an essay on how well-spoken he is when I was in 8th grade.
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| 14 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Wed, Mar 30, 2005, 23:22
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For real? If so, impressive. If not, f you. (lol)
I like it when in football they bring people in on their bye weeks during the season and "test" them out. Some stink, but some do great. They bring them into the studio though, not the live games. In other sports they have to wait until the team is eliminated before they do it for the most part.
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| 15 | blue hen
ID: 353412123
Thu, Mar 31, 2005, 00:53
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I still have it. I got an A. And I actually told him about it when I met him years later. I think the assignment was to write about a "renaissance man" and Harold epitomized that - played at an all-star level, was active in the community, and was very well spoken. I was young, but it was pretty obvious to see at that point.
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| 16 | Ksouze0007
ID: 42211312
Thu, Mar 31, 2005, 03:28
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Dream Booth Team:
Vin Scully and Ernie Harwell or Steve Stone
Worst booth team I have ever listened to was Thom Brenneman and Bon Brenly....Ugh...Totally Brutal...
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| 17 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 31, 2005, 09:15
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RE: 14 Peyton Manning did an excellent job. There is no doubt he will ahve a chance to go that route if he wants. On the other hand...there was a stud receiver who got himself suspended the rest of the season two years ago...his name escapes me...:)
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| 18 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Thu, Mar 31, 2005, 09:52
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Vin Scully and Harry Kalas for me. Nobody tells a story like Vinny; he almost made a Dodger fan out of me when I was living in So CA.
I can't believe Joe Morgan has only been mentioned once. McCarver should be put out to pasture, but Morgan is great to listen to imho. So is Tony Gwynn, but I'm not sure he's on ESPN anymore.
Although, sometimes I do long for the days with Curt Gowdy and Joe Garagiola/Tony Kubek.
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| 19 | Toral
ID: 14263120
Mon, Apr 04, 2005, 22:56
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Two distressing notes about changes in baseball announcing 2005.
I get MLB.TV and got cable before that and always loved WGN Cubs broadcasts. Harry Caray and Stone, then Chip and Stone, great. I missed the news last fall that Stone had resigned after criticism for being too hard on the Cubs and that Chip had headed off to Atlanta. I was in shock watching the Cubs broadcast today. Bob Brenly is IMO one of the worst high-profile announcers (i.e., I'm not counting the various no-names on Fox Sports cable) around. The magic is definitely gone, for good.
Also, tuning in to the end of the Yankees' radio broadcast, I found the fine Charley Steiner gone, to the Left Coast. The horror is that he has apparently been replaced by Suzyn Waldman. Now I've heard Waldman from time to time for years, as a baseball reporter and fill-in or guest, and she may be a fine baseball reporter. But she has the most grating, chalk-screeching-on-the-blackboard radio voice I've ever heard (what is that accent? Brooklyn? New Jersey? Hell?) and for now at least no concept of radio announcing, of fitting her colour comments in with her partner and the flow of the game.
Two pieces of really bad announcing news for 2005.
Toral
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| 20 | MadAndRabidDOG
ID: 412552721
Mon, Apr 04, 2005, 23:15
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I tell you one thing. That Jack Buck "Well Lookie Here" call of Mark Mcwire's 70th home run or whatever it was, is one of the stupidest calls I have ever heard.
The guy is a radio announcer and he tells the people listening to the radio "Well Lookie Here"?
WTF? Nobody knew what the hell he was talking about or what was going on. Bad, bad, bad call of a historic moment.
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