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0 Subject: RIBC 2006: Pre-draft discussion

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 13:05

Here are the 16 managers for the 2006 RotoGuru Invitational Baseball Challenge:

Chris
holt
Oaktown As
Toral
jumpball
KKB
mMoses
Dave R
MC and TB
Hubble
Trip
I am Canadian
Blue Hen
Jeff G
CanEHdian Pride
Guru

These qualifiers represent the top 6 finishers in last year's RIBC, the top 6 in last year's AAA league, the winner of each AA league, and me.

Next year, there will be two AAA leagues, so the qualifications for succession will have to change. No hurry to work that out, especially until we know how many AA leagues are formed.

I don't expect to start the draft until mid-March. We will use the Kafenatid "On the Clock" software again. I will create rotoguru-based links to the draft for those who have difficulty accessing the Kafenatid site from work, and will do that for any of the qualifying leagues that drafts on Kafenatid as well.

We will once again use Yahoo as the hosting site for the league. I will email registration info to all managers once I create the league.

Prior to the draft, we should discuss whether any revisions in the rules are desirable. I'll have to first look up the rules from last year. If anyone wants to beat me to the punch and copy them in here, be my guest.
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30Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 14:59
There is also no rush, so don't feel pressured into making a quick choice if you want to think about it.
31blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 15:46
To paraphrase the alien from the Simpsons: "It doesn't matter what position you give me; your league is doomed... DOOMED... to finish behind Blue Hen."
32blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 15:48
Oh, and can we set a 10 millisecond timeout to make these picks? We can? It looks like I am up, then. I select pick 1. What do you mean I can't do that?
33Athletics Guy
      ID: 911493111
      Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 18:38
16 Blue Hen Rules

As Nelson Muntz from the Simpsons would say: Ha-Ha
34holt
      ID: 491122318
      Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 19:16
wow - I'm used to falling in the bottom 20% of priority for these drafts. I need a little time to think about this.
35Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 22:45
Ha-ha
36Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 23:20
If only I had sent in my numbers 3 minutes later...

37JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 23:31
Yup Trip. If my 'random' numbers came in to Guru before yours, you'd be 2nd to chose your slot, and Oak at #1 would have got the player that seems to want from posts [2] and [20]. On the other end, Holt would have plenty of time to think with the second to last choice.
38Athletics Guy
      ID: 911493111
      Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 23:45
Aw man, I wish I didn't read that.
Trip, you're killing me! ;)
39holt
      ID: 491122318
      Fri, Feb 24, 2006, 05:58
I guess I'll pick first. doing two picks at once is convenient.
40Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Fri, Feb 24, 2006, 08:17
I'll pick second. Doing 2 picks separated by only 2 picks is convenient.

Toral
41jumpball
      ID: 0142416
      Fri, Feb 24, 2006, 17:18
If my memory is correct, I've drawn a 2 digit number in this process all 3 years now . . . however, as long as the final league results remain the same, I'm not going to complain!
42cEHp
      ID: 516250
      Sat, Feb 25, 2006, 01:32
I too like having two consecutive picks.

I will take 16.

Its all about convenience.
43Hubble
      ID: 0992417
      Sat, Feb 25, 2006, 08:51
picking 15th is not as convenient as picking 16th... but i guess its as conveniant as it can get...

So 15th
44KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 0156519
      Sat, Feb 25, 2006, 11:12
Wow, I totally expected to be deciding between the #5 or the #16 slot. Sign me up for #3!
45Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Feb 25, 2006, 11:34
Sorry, guys. I must confess I'm not prepared to decide yet. May not be until tomorrow.

Relax...
46Athletics Guy
      ID: 911493111
      Sat, Feb 25, 2006, 12:08
Take your time Guru, I need more time to decide as well.
47JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Sat, Feb 25, 2006, 12:24
Here is where we are:

Draft order:
1 Holt's Revenge
2 Toral Wheatfarmers
3 Kafenatid.net
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15 Hubble's
16 The Say EH Kid


Selection order of those left to choose

RotoGuru.com
IAMCANADIAN
Oaktown A's
mMoses RIBC
Chris' Repeaters
JeffG RIBC
MC & TB
Day Trippers
jumpball RIBC
SANFORDORS
Blue Hen Rules
48I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 521191210
      Sun, Feb 26, 2006, 11:00
Sent request to Hubble to contact me once Guru picks. I'll be away from the computer all day, so I'll get him to pick it for me.

Thx,

IAC
Ben
49Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Feb 26, 2006, 17:15
Sorry for the delay.

I'll pick 6th.
50Hubble
      ID: 0992417
      Sun, Feb 26, 2006, 21:13
I tried to call Ben (IAC) but he is on the road to Moncton (from Montreal i guess its 14 hours...)

i couldnt find the e-mail he sent me... i'm sorry about that... hopefully he'll check soon, i have no other way to reach him. i e-mailed him.
51Hubble
      ID: 01212716
      Mon, Feb 27, 2006, 17:31
Ok, i just found out I_A_C had sent me a mail on my hotmail account... (i never ever used it)...

He should call me tonight and i'll post it before 8:00pm
52Hubble
      ID: 01212716
      Mon, Feb 27, 2006, 20:41
I_AM_CANADIAN is going to pick 10th
53Athletics Guy
      ID: 911493111
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 00:38
I'll pick 12th.
54TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 00:41
Draft order:
1 Holt's Revenge
2 Toral Wheatfarmers
3 Kafenatid.net
4
5
6 RotoGuru.com
7
8
9
10 IAMCANADIAN
11
12 Oaktown A's
13
14
15 Hubble's
16 The Say EH Kid


Selection order of those left to choose

mMoses RIBC
Chris' Repeaters
JeffG RIBC
MC & TB
Day Trippers
jumpball RIBC
SANFORDORS
Blue Hen Rules
55mMoses
      ID: 50129133
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 01:53
I'll pick 4th.
56Chris
      ID: 1410141221
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 11:10
I'll pick 5th
57JeffG
      ID: 25028279
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 11:23
I'll take 7th

Draft order:
1 Holt's Revenge
2 Toral Wheatfarmers
3 Kafenatid.net
4 mMoses RIBC
5 Chris' Repeaters
6 RotoGuru.com
7 JeffG RIBC
8
9
10 IAMCANADIAN
11
12 Oaktown A's
13
14
15 Hubble's
16 The Say EH Kid


Selection order of those left to choose

MC & TB
Day Trippers
jumpball RIBC
SANFORDORS
Blue Hen Rules
58Guru
      ID: 501282712
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 12:24
Just an early heads up to those picking 7th and later...

Depending on how the first 5 picks go (in round 1), I might be interested in swapping my picks in the first 2 rounds with yours. If we get to pick 6 and there is a player out there that you really want to nab, we might be able to work out a swap.
59TB
      ID: 1286814
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 14:35
We will pick 8th.

Draft order:
1 Holt's Revenge
2 Toral Wheatfarmers
3 Kafenatid.net
4 mMoses RIBC
5 Chris' Repeaters
6 RotoGuru.com
7 JeffG RIBC
8 MC & TB
9
10 IAMCANADIAN
11
12 Oaktown A's
13
14
15 Hubble's
16 The Say EH Kid

Selection order of those left to choose
Day Trippers
jumpball RIBC
SANFORDORS
Blue Hen Rules
60I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 14:36
Hey guys... thx for gettin in my pic. I just got back in town this morning, from a really horid roadtrip. I should be more able to keep abreast of the draft from this point on.

Thx.
61JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 15:17
I_A_C - No problem. From being in AAA with you last year, one thing I know for sure, is you can be depended on to be on top of things come draft time.
62Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 16:16
I'll take 14th.
63jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 20:26
Give me the 11 slot please.
64jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 20:38
Thanks for being patient with me guys . . . hopefully I won't slow the draft down too much by not having complete access to the internet during the day.

I can't wait for the draft -- mostly to see what surprise KKB has in store with his #3 pick this year . . . last year he surprised us all by taking <<1.03 Undrafted>> . . . will he do it again?!? :-)
65Dave R
      Dude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 21:31
I'll pick 9th
66Athletics Guy
      ID: 911493111
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 21:38
Draft order:
1 Holt's Revenge
2 Toral Wheatfarmers
3 Kafenatid.net
4 mMoses RIBC
5 Chris' Repeaters
6 RotoGuru.com
7 JeffG RIBC
8 MC & TB
9 SANFORDORS
10 IAMCANADIAN
11 jumpball RIBC
12 Oaktown A's
13 Blue Hen Rules
14 Day Trippers
15 Hubble's
16 The Say EH Kid
67Hubble
      ID: 01212716
      Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 22:06
Still can't beleive Holt got first pick... pffff
68holt
      ID: 491122318
      Wed, Mar 01, 2006, 03:41
lol, me either. i've never gotten 1st pick in any league i've ever played in. this is new territory for me.
69blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Wed, Mar 01, 2006, 10:51
Great, I get to pick between Mach and Trip. How am I supposed to get any good players again?
70JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Wed, Mar 01, 2006, 15:37
From [27]

Last year, we officially started the draft on Monday, March 7, although we allowed early picks during the weekend prior. We completed the draft on March 26, so it took 19 days.

This year, the season starts on April 2. We want to finish the draft in time to get all rosters set and to allow all undrafted players to clear initial waivers. A target completion date of March 29 seems suitable. If so, that would mean that we should probably start the draft no later than March 10, which is a Friday. Perhaps we could start the clock on that Friday, but allow untimed picks to begin on Wednesday, March 8.


If that is the game plan, sounds good to me.
71blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Wed, Mar 01, 2006, 15:40
I'm fine going even earlier if you like.
72Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Wed, Mar 01, 2006, 16:47
Earlier the better. I'll be busier as March goes on. The earlier we start the more slack we can allow if we have to.

Toral
73Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Mar 01, 2006, 17:18
I'd prefer to stick with that schedule. I know that the qualifying leagues often like to get a head start so that they can stay ahead of our picks, and that's fine for me as well.

And frankly, I'm still nowhere close to being ready.
74I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 521191210
      Wed, Mar 01, 2006, 21:29
8-10th sounds ok to me.
75Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Mar 04, 2006, 17:39
I put together a spreadsheet listing all Yahoo position eligibilities for hitters, as of 3/4/06:
Yahoo-elig-3-4-06.xls


76Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 05, 2006, 08:03
I wrote a general purpose script to display the kafenatid draft results, both in sequential pick order and also as a draft grid. Since it runs from the rotoguru1.com domain, it will work for those who are blocked from kafenatid.net at work. If anyone has limited access to both rotoguru1.com and kafenatid.net, let me know and I can set this up on an alternate domain as well.

In order to work, the draft must be set up in kafenatid as a publicly viewable draft in both formats. The RIBC and qualifying leagues are set up this way. The draft must also have started already.

Here are the two QL drafts in progress:
RIBC AA Sally League

RIBC AA Mudcats League

The sequential picks are at the top. scroll down to the bottom for the grid.
77 Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Sun, Mar 05, 2006, 13:12
I will be traveling on business through Wednesday. If you need to contact me before Thursday, use the link in this post.
78Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 06, 2006, 09:38
These were last year's logistical guidelines for the draft:
Starting at 7am, we will institute a 6 hour clock. The clock will pause between 11pm and 7am ET. If you time out, the draft will move on. Skipped picks can be made up at any time thererafter.

If your turn arises and you still have an outstanding skipped pick, I will probably move the draft on to the next picker. If we get well ahead of pace, I may relax that stance. But hopefully it will not become an issue. This also means that people on the turn have a single clock period to make their first pick, or both will be skipped.

We will use a draft discussion thread for logistical communications, to help others anticipate potential delays, to recruit someone to accept a queue, to announce or solicit trades, to coordinate changes in the clock for weekends, etc. Please check that thread regularly throughout the draft, as we will rely on it as the primary means of communication among RIBC managers.

Established draft etiquette is that no undrafted player names should be mentioned, and in the event of an infraction, should be edited out.
I am planning to continue using these guidelines. The draft will commence on Wednesday morning, but the 6-hour clock will not be turned on until Friday morning. We will keep the clock turned on during weekends.
79Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 15:07
I'm posting this here just so that I have a chance of finding it next winter. (I figured I would be less likely to find it in the draft thread.)

Here is the general framework I envision for yearly succession - subject to change at my own whim:

2007 RIBC (16 teams)
Top 6 from 2006 RIBC
Top 3 from each AAA league (6)
Winner of each AA (3)
Guru

2007 AAA leagues (32 teams)
Non-returning 9 from 2006 RIBC
Teams ranked 4-8 in each AAA (10)
Teams ranked 2-5 in each AA (12)

That produces only 31 AAA teams, so that leaves one to play with, plus openings due to attrition. Chances are that the 6th place AA teams would get to advance, and maybe more.

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