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0 Subject: RIBC 2006: Draft Rationales (rounds 1-5)

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 21:51

This thread will be for managers in the RotoGuru Invitational Baseball Challenge to provide the rationale for each pick.

Here are the ground rules:
1. Only managers in this league should post here. If you want to provide feedback (either from other league managers, or from those not in the league), put it in the discussion thread. (Non-conforming discussion in this thread will be deleted.)

2. Try to keep the pick rationales in the same order as the draft. We'll attempt to keep this thread 2 rounds behind the actual draft. With the lag, most comments should not have an impact on the draft in progress. However, if there are aspects of your pick that you feel need to be kept under wraps, feel free to protect that information. In particular, please avoid mentioning the names of any players who are still undrafted at that time of the post.

Please post your comments at the time you make your pick. For example, you should post your comments for your round 1 pick when you make your round 3 selection. If you are not ready to post at that time, then create a "placeholder" so that the next person is able to go ahead in sequence. When your post is ready, simply post it in the draft discussion thread and a moderator can copy it over.

If possible, please draft your rationale at the time your are making that pick. Not only does that allow you to remember your thoughts "in the moment", but it also makes it simple to copy and paste it when it is due, avoiding unnecessary delays and/or placeholders.

If your rationale is due and intervening placeholders have not been inserted, please insert them before posting your rationale. Simply post something like "2.10 placeholder for Guru". This makes it easy for me (or any moderator) to splice the eventual rationale in the proper place.

3. If you are providing rationales after a placeholder has been inserted, then post it in the draft discussion thread, and someone will copy it over.

4. Once the draft is over, each manager is also encouraged to provide a general draft recap, at which time you can discuss your overall strategy, mention any undisclosed factors, comment on what worked out well and what didn't, etc.

The general format should be:
1.01 Albert Pujols, OF, STL
Several sentences of rationale.

In addition, along with your first player rationale, please comment on your rationale for your selection of draft order.
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31KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 36238119
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 16:49
2.14 Jimmy Rollins, SS, PHI
For this pick, I wanted a MI that I could count on for a good enough OBP/SLG and a good number of SB. Runs would be an obvious by-product and I wasn't concerned about RBI. With that criteria, I was left with a decision between Rollins and Furcal. Furcal has slightly better projections on my sheet, but there's no way for me to accurately predict what will happen to him with the change in scenery. Because of that, Rollins became the obvious choice. However, even when I set up my queue, I didn't add Furcal. Instead, I had a backup of Jeter, who ended up going 2 picks later. I'm a bit surprised that Furcal fell as far as he did, but I would guess that most have the same Dodger Stadium concerns that I did. That, and I think my 3.03 pick made some people alter their strategies a bit.

And even though Rotowire isn't all that happy about his attitude of chasing the hit record, I'm fine with it. I'm not trying to draft the Miss Manners team. I think the added incentive will help him get off to a good start and hopefully maintain that momentum.

My projections have him at: 115 R, 61 RBI, 37 SB, .346 OBP, .439 SLG
32Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 16:51
2.15 Roy Oswalt, SP, Hou

Oswalt goes right about here in mock drafts and I was hoping he (or 2.10 Jake Peavy, who other people also seem to have targeted) would be available here. I often wait longer than others for pitchers generally but like to select a rotation anchor early. Last year it was Pedro, which worked well. This year Oswalt is my choice for that role after Santana, and I considered no one else. He's been very consistent over the last 2 years and I am writing him in for 18 wins, 195 Ks, 3.10, 1.20. Negatives? He's never looked to me like a pitcher who should be so durable; maybe he's just due for some bad luck. He pitches in a park where an off year could result in some unpleasant average stats.
I only play in 2 other leagues and I have Oswalt in one of them so perhaps I'm subconsciously trying to consolidate my rooting interests. Dispersal of risk might be a better meta-strategy but it gets disorienting to be rooting for half the league every night.
33holt
      ID: 491122318
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 20:09
2.16 Derek Jeter, SS, NYY

Well, this is a good spot for Jeter to go. If I didn't take him I'm sure he would have been taken in the next 2-3 picks. he gives you a little of everything at a scarce position.

.380 .460 70-rbi 115-R 16-sb is pretty close to what all the projections have him at.
34Holt
      ID: 541029611
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 20:15
3.01 Chris Carpenter, SP, StL

This pick was tricky. I usually prefer to ignore starting pitchers til later in the draft, but I think it's highly probable that Carpenter will reproduce last season (or something close to it). He can anchor a staff, and I couldn't pass him up in the 3rd round.

Sheffield was staring me in the face, and I did give heavy consideration to drafting him, but the thought of taking a-rod, jeter, and sheff with my 1st 3 picks just seemed ridiculous. my turn to the dark side would have been complete.

most projections have Carp around 3.20, 1.10, 190-K, 18 wins. barring injury he should be pretty close to that.
35Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 20:16
3.02 Gary Sheffield, OF, NYY

Took a bit of time to ponder over this one. Sheffield is 37 and declined a bit last year. However the decline was slight, he hits in the middle of a juggernaut lineup, he's in a contract year, he seems to be well-conditioned and he's shown an ability to play through minor injuries. Now that he's on my team, I'll take an optimistic projection and put him down for .380/.530 107-121.

I seriously considered going with potential and growth and selecting Grady Sizemore (chosen 4.10! almost made it back) here, but I don't expect him to surpass Sheffield in the rate stats this year, and his position in the batting order limits his RBI opportunities. Aramis Ramirez (chosen 3.07) was also on the radar screen, and had Oswalt not been available the pick before, I would have chosen Roy Halladay (3.11) here.
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I wrote the above at the time. I also considered Mariano Rivera, who was picked by KKB immediately after, starting a closer run. KKB always starts a closer run one round before I expect it. I wasn't that exicted with the Sheffield pick. An early closer pick isn't a good value pick (just look at my RIBC record last year, where my only drafted closer was Braden Looper but I ended up tied for 2nd in saves) but it would have been a good tactic to pick Rivera and start the closer run myself. Maybe next year!
37KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 36238119
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 20:28
3.03 Mariano Rivera, RP, NYY
I honestly did not mean to start a closer run of any kind. Not even a small one. Not this early. Last year, the big closer run started twoards the end of the 3rd round and went into the 4th and 5th rounds. The year before that, I think it was near the 6th round, IIRC. This year, a mini-run seems to have been caused by my pick of Rivera. This pick was a no-brainer for me. Last year, I struggled mightly because of opting out of the closer run with my 4.14 pick (though that pick didn't end up being so bad) and took a major dud with my 5.03 pick. My next RP pick was 10.14 and was another dud. So, this year, I wanted someone who, like Santana, could anchor my RP staff. That's Rivera. The consistency is there and the job is his and this is right about where he went last year (3.09).

As if it matters, my projections have him at: 5 W, 42 SV, 70 K, 1.65 ERA, 0.971 WHIP
38Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 00:23
for mMoses
3.04 Brad Lidge, RP, Hou

KKB might not have meant to start an RP run by taking Mariano... But that was exactly what I intended to do by following his pick with Lidge. I was hoping Rollins would fall to me at this pick, to make up for the lack of speed in Teixeira/Jones. The combination of Rollins being taken, and Mariano being taken right before me, made it clear what path I'd take. I was hoping if I followed one closer with another, that plenty more closers would be taken before my next pick. I tried to make it so I got a top-notch closer, and that some stronger (non-closer) players would make it back to me in round four. Wagner and Gagne tempted me, but Gagne might not be at 100%, and I wanted Lidge's extra K's over Wagner.

39Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 00:25
for Hubble (via trade)
3.05 Francisco Rodriguez, RP, LAA

Draft position #15 rationale: The main reason why i picked the 15th spot was that i targeted that the closer run would start at the end of round 3, and i could snatch 2 of the top 7 with my picks 3.15 & 4.02. I kinda dreamt about a perfect start Young, Utley, Lidge & K-Rod (or any mix Wagner, Gagne, Nathan, BJ Ryan, Rivera) Having MI and Saves settled, i wouldnt have to worry about position scarcity anymore. But dream and reality are 2 different thing...

Francisco Rodriguez rationale: When KKB took Rivera (3.03) i kinda panicked that the closer run was on... (earlier than expected!) I saw Chris offer to trade his 3.05 pick and traded up to get eithr Lidge or K-Rod(hoping i would get at least 1 of the 5 other closer meantioned before with my 3.15 pick). Lidge was 3.04... Now i was sure glad i had traded up... Getting 100 K's from a RP is just too good, combined with good ratios it's impossible to pass. I have K-Rod and Lidge ranked #1-2 (real close) as closer so i'm quite satisfied with that pick, there is no way he would have make it back to me if i wouldn't have traded up. So according to my startegy its a good move for now. I prjoect K-Rod with nothing less than 40 Saves, 100 K's, <2.50 ERA, < 1.10 WHIP.

40Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 00:26
3.06 B.J. Ryan, RP, Tor
After nabbing Victor in round 2, I started plotting my 3rd rounder. If Jeter had survived, I’d have probably nabbed him. But any other SS seems a bit of a reach here. Ditto at 2B. The best hitters at this point are at deeper positions. (Of course, that will be true for the rest of the draft!) I have Aramis Ramirez at the top of my hitter list right now, but I think there are ample options 3B.

I also thought about going for an elite closer, like Lidge or Mariano, hoping to perhaps precipitate a closer run. But it looks like the run has already started. So now the question is whether it makes sense to nab a closer now, or to wait for round 4, when as many as 11 more closers could have disappeared (if everyone picking in the interim takes one). My guess is that everyone won’t take one, but that another 6-7 could easily disappear, after which the quality declines. At that point, it may no longer make sense to chase the run, although it could end up creating a nagging issue for some time to come.

My short list includes (in no particular order) Gagne, Ryan, Street, Wagner, and Nathan. Gagne is tempting, but coupling his injury uncertainy with the fact that I have him on another team already, I think I’ll diversify. I also have Wagner on another team. Of the other three, Ryan has had the best K/IP ratio for the last few years, and may have the most save opps on Toronto (vs. Minn or Oakland). His ERA may be worse than the others on that list, although for a closer, one or two bad innings can make a big difference, so that’s a bit of a crap shoot, while K-ratios seem more predictable.

I’m not at all sure that taking a closer in round three is the right decision. The next 20 picks will provide an answer. But I wanted to get one top closer with a high K ratio, and as I’ll probably say many times in these rationales, it’s better to take a desired guy one round too early than to be continually one round too late.

Here’s hoping Ryan earns his big contract with the Jays.
41JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 00:37
3.07 Aramis Ramirez, 3B, Chi.
OK, the prior 4 picks were closers. The run was obviously underway about a half a round earlier than I expected. My options now were to take Joe Nathan, or to realize that the closers available when my fourth round pick rolls around would be way down that food chain. Decided to risk it and go with another 4-category hitter. Ramirez missing the last 6 weeks of 2005 was a minor concern but everything indicates he's back to full strength. This was an opportunity to pick up a top tier 3B. Should be good for 85+ R and 100+ RBI, and being a Cub has done wonders for his SLG the last 2 seasons, but interestingly enough it was better on the road last season which makes me even more hopeful for a killer season.
42TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 00:46
3.08 Hideki Matsui, OF, NYY

We would have grabbed Ramirez had he fallen one more pick. Matsui has been a solid hitter the last three years, scoring triple digits in 2004 and 2005 while driving in triple digits all three seasons. He has also been very durable, playing in every game. We feel like he is a solid pick in this spot and fits right in with our other hitters.
43I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 12:45
for Dave R
3.09 Joe Nathan, RP, Minn

Wow the run on closers started earlier than I thought. That could be a good thing as I managed to get in relatively early, rather than at the end. And with 16 picks to go before I got another chance, it was better to grab one now.

I like Nathan better than Wagner, my 2nd choice, simply due to some injury problems in Wagners past. He did rebound nicely last year after an injury plagued 2004. Really IMO you could flip a coin between the two.

I think you can pencil Nathan in for 40+ saves this year.

44I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 12:48
3.10 Billy Wagner, RP, NYM
Closer run anynone? I'm not the type to want to miss out on RP's; and I normally strategize to have at least two by the first 6 rounds, so I'd better grab one of the best while he's still out their. Was hoping Lidge would slip to here, but Wagner was #3 on my list (Rivera #1), so I'm quite happy to get him as the 6th closer to be taken. I didn't have anyone else tiered up with him, so it was an easy pick to make.
45Athletics Guy
      ID: 43219110
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 13:56
For Jumpball:
3.11 Roy Halladay, SP, TOR

My mock drafts indicated that I could get one of the top 3 closers here. Of course the real draft is the only one that counts and there's 6 closers that flew off the board in the 8 picks just before this one. I decided to not get the 7th best closer with a 3rd round pick (as has been mentioned earlier, that just doesn't look good on the first line of a Draft Rationale post).

So who would have been picked had the closer run not happened so early? Only Halladay and Zambrano interested me. I went with Halladay's ERA and WHIP advantage over Zambrano's K advantage. Wins should be about equal.

46Athletics Guy
      ID: 43219110
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 13:57
3.12 Carlos Zambrano, SP, CHC
It's very uncharacteristic of me to draft 2 starting pitchers this early. Like some managers here, I'd rather grab an ace early and wait a couple of rounds before building the rest of my rotation. But when I looked at the available hitters, nobody really jumped out at me. I considered taking Delgado and Sexson, but I felt there would still be a lot of sluggers around for me on the next pick. On the other hand, I didn't feel Carlos Zambrano would make it back to me after the turn. With him and Pedro, I should be able to keep my team near the top of the league in most of the pitching categories. Zambrano should be good for 16+ W's, 200 K's, 3.00 ERA and 1.15 WHIP. Those numbers might not be enough to get him his CY, but they're good enough for me.
47blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 14:16
3.13 Eric Gagne, RP

As noted, the closer run was in full effect at this time. And a healthy Gagne is right up there with Lidge, Wagner, and K-Rod. He's not the surest bet to be healthy, but after drafting the oh-so-consistent Dunn and Helton in the first two rounds, it was a risk I felt I could afford. Early for a closer in any league, but worthy given the situation.
49Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 15:37
3.14 Ben Sheets, SP, Mil

With my first two picks I ended up going with the best player available. The closer run had begun, but I felt like I would be reaching to take any of the ones available at the tail of the run. Huston Street would have been the guy if I went that route, but I just couldn't do it. I liked Sheets the best of the remaining available SP, and consider Prior, Randy, Felix to be in the tier below. I had Willis up there with Sheets, but his lack of offensive support was a concern. This year run support shouldn't be an issue with the Brew Crew. Pierre was the choice if I didn't feel like I needed to grab a pitching stats anchor here.
50Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 16:58
for Hubble
3.15 Juan Pierre OF CHC

I'm still shaking my head in disbeleif that neither Ryan, Nathan, Wagner or Gagne made it back to me. Anyway, my strat of getting 2 of top 7 closer down the drain, i turned back to the drawing board and pick the best offensive player avalaible. Juan Pierre should score a whole lot of runs and had at least 45 sb in last 5 season... Of course its annoying to have a < 0.400 slg on your team, but i think its easier to compensate than SB's and runs. I hope 110R, 50RBI, 55 SB, >0.750 OPS

51Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 16:59
for CanEHdian Pride
3.16 Chad Cordero RP WAS
Seemed like round 3 was where the majority of managers were entering the market for closers and I was positioned well as I never like to take a closer too early but I want to have atleast one bona fide stopper on my roster. Cordero is a 23 year old work horse that doesn't walk people. People MAY view this as a reach but I think for the numbers that Cordero is putting up relative to his peers at his young age he is the equivalent to the Miguel Cabrera of closers. His number are ludicrous and he's shown some nice consistancy in the early stages of his career. I was really excited about this pick as an improved Nationals team could but Cordero at the top of the saves list in 2006.

4.01 Dontrelle Willis, SP, Florida Marlins
I took Dontrelle early -- however I don't think he would have made it back to me. I'm a big Dontrelle Willis fan, despite the fact that the Marlins roster is nothing to write home about I do not think this will hurt his numbers too serverly. I think that 15 W is very attainable and his rate stats will continue to improve as he has not yet hit his peak. Will his motion reek havoc on his arm? Perhaps, but he hasn't seemed to be bothered to date so I'm gonna go w/ my gut and put the ball in Dontrelle's hands as my SP1 as there were no other players that jumped out at me that I thought could make a larger impact on my team at this point in the draft.

52Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 16:59
for Chris, via trade from Hubble
4.02 Huston Street RP OAK 4.02 Huston Street, RP, Oak

I have Street ranked as a top 3 closer(based on stats, and number of saves he's likely to accumulate this year), so I was happy to trade down and get the guy I would've taken anyway at 3.05, the 7th closer taken in the draft. Anything else I have to say is obvious: plays for a good team, with good pitching, in a pitcher's park. I make the same argument every year for every closer I take.

53Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 17:00
for Trip
4.03 Rafael Furcal, SS, LAD

Time to go back to my initial strategy. I had resisted my MI urge in the first two rounds, and felt like I might come to regret it. Did I reach a little on Furcal? Probably, but does it count as a reach if he wouldn't make it back to me. I guess that's why they call these rationales. Giles and Weeks were also considered, but I was hoping one of them would make it back to me.
54I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 521191210
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 21:54
for Blue Hen
4.04 Mark Prior, SP, CHC

As noted, I got Prior for the third year in a row in an RIBC league. I am a firm believer in having a "stud" starting pitcher, and having a chance to land that stud in the 4th round is pretty huge. The drawbacks are plentiful, since Prior has a very checkered injury history. But even if he only pitches 100 innings, he'll still give me some good numbers and a lot of strikeouts.

By the way, today I heard that Prior may miss the start of the season.

55I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 521191210
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 21:54
for Athletics Guy
4.05 Carlos Delgado, 1B, NYM

I had it narrowed down to Carlos Delgado and Richie Sexson here. While both players have put up strong numbers on a consistent basis, Delgado's are just a tad better. I think the move to Shea Stadium will affect his production somewhat, but Delgado is just too good of a player. If Sexson can have success at Safeco, there's no reason why Delgado can't do well at Shea too. The Mets lineup is also strong enough for him to keep up his high counting stats. I'm expecting a .400/.550, 100 R, 120 RBI, 1 SB(!!!) season.

56I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 521191210
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 21:54
for jumpball
4.06 Rich Harden, SP, OAK

Three more closers gone . . . i'm certainly not reaching for the 10th best closer here . . . As in the last round, I looked for the best player available that fell because of the closer craziness. This time there were 4 names that stood out.
o Grady Sizemore -- a potential 5 category player in an easy to fill position
o Jeff Kent -- nice numbers at a difficult position to fill
o Felix Hernendez -- what a great half season he had last year!
o Harden -- would love to see his numbers for 30 starts!

Using the process of elimination I removed Sizemore only because he's an OF. Next was Kent -- although it was tough giving up those kind of numbers at 2B, I liked the idea of having a big 1-2 punch in my pitching staff better. That left the 2 pitchers. When I read that Felix was going to be in the 5th slot and would be babied this year, that left Harden to pile up the numbers in Ws and Ks.

I'm thrilled to have Roy & Rich anchoring my staff this year . . . just prove that you're back from last year's injuries!
57I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 521191210
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 21:55
4.07 Randy Johnson, SP, NYY
RJ might not be RJ of old, but, what if he comes close? The benefit of pitchin for the Yankees, and the potential for 20 wins, seems far too easy to ignore. I wasn't targeting an SP here at all, because I figured he'd be gone by the early 3rd round; I guess the 9 RPs taken since 3.03 lended a hand in getting him to here.
58JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 22:57
for SANFORDORS

4.08 Felix Hernandez SP Sea

I really wanted to grab a starting pitcher with this pick and as the round unfolded, I saw 3of the 4 I targeted taken, with two in the immediate picks before mine.

Felix is quite a talent, and with good reason the Mariners will likely go easy with him, supposedly limiting him to 190 innings. Even at that I expect him to be a solid anchor to my staff. In his brief stint last year he K'd 77 and walked only 23 in 84.3 innings and a sub 3.00 ERA. I'd be thrilled with anything close to those numbers over the course of 190 innings.

59TB
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 23:02
4.09 Jeff Kent, 2B/1B, LAD

As a Giants fan, I don't particulary care much for Jeffrey Franklin Kent these days, but he is a solid slugger. Fantasy wise, there aren't many players eligible for 2B who can score 100 runs, drive in 100 runs, and provide great percentages. Like most people, we aren't fans of the Dodger's offense, but Kent got the job done last year and we are hoping for a repeat performance.
60JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 23:04
4.10 Grady Sizemore OF Cle
So if you refer to my 3.07 rationale, when I bypassed the beginning of the closer run in round 3, I was hoping a few decent closers make it back. Turns out there were 3 I liked (Izzy, Hoffman, Turnbow) when this pick came up before I have to look a little deeper. I am rolling the dice. My thinking was among the next 12 picks before I am up again, only 2 managers have no closer, so perhaps one of these three make it back unless someone doubles up (Curse you KKB who did just that after I wrote this rationale) or if someone picks another closer (Francisco Cordero was taken by Toral). So with that rationalization out of the way, I was looking at another offensive player, or a starter. Even though I considered the tougher to fill MI positions, the ones around still seemed a bit of reach to me in rd 4. I ultimately went with Grady who is the best on the board because he is an asset in all 5 offensive categories. At the top of a potent lineup, he'll be a good run scorer and all projections are predicting that he should develop a little more patience and power this season to improve on both his OBP/SLG, and conservatively post 15-20 steals. We'll see if my patience pays with waiting on the closer for the next round.
61Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 23:07
4.11 Richie Sexson, 1B, Sea

My plans had been to take 4 hitters in the first 5 rounds, with the pitcher being a closer. Until Rich Harden was taken about 5 picks ago, I was considering abandoning the plan. Fortunately (I guess), jumpball kept me on the chosen path. Felix Hernandez would also have been tempting, but he disappeared too.

Assuming I do take hitters in rounds 4-5, I probably want one power hitter (at any position), and one middle infielder, assuming I can get the latter without a ridiculous stretch. My short list of power hitters includes Sexson and Carlos Lee. I know the Bonds is still out there, but after taking him in round 1 last year, I’m shying away from that risk, and suspect someone else will be willing to step up before I am – although the reward is potentially great.

Looking at the five teams with picks between my 4th and 5th rounder, I see only 2 first basemen, 3 shortstops, 3 outfielders, and 3 closers. I really don’t see a trend for those collective picks.

There are a handful of comparable middle infielders out there, and I’m going to take a shot that one of them is still available next round. I’ll take Richie, and hope for a stat line like last year: 100-120-.540-.370. (His averages were even higher than that for the second half of this year.)
62KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 08:28
for Chris
4.12 Morgan Ensberg, 3B, Hou

I assume people are a little leary of Ensberg because of his "every other year" tendencies. Personally, I think he's a fantastic hitter who was fighting through injury in 2004. I would be surprised if he didn't OPS at least 925, and of all the comparable 3B taken around here(Chipper, Rolen, Glaus, Chavez to a lesser extent), I think only Chipper could reasonably be better, and I have health concerns about him.

63KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 08:28
for mMoses
4.13 Scott Podsednik, OF, CHW

After assisting in the Closer run in round 3, I was still wanting some speed with my 4th round pick. I wanted Rollins in round 3, so I was hoping for one of Furcal, Pierre, or Podsednik to get back to me. I am hoping that he is done getting caught stealing at such a high rate, after fully healing from hernia surgery in the off-season. Anything above 50sb and .340obp is what I'm hoping for. Had Delgado or Kent made it to my pick, I might have swayed from my need for speed.

64KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 08:30
4.14 Jason Isringhausen, RP, STL
By my estimation, I lost at least 8 fantasy points by not taking a reliever at 4.14 and taking a complete dud for a "reliever" with 5.03 last year. That would have moved me from 6th to 4th and might have let me focus on other aspects of my team instead of scrounging up Saves from anybody who had a temperature and was "in the mix" for the closers role on their team.

This year, I'm avoiding that. Obviously. In Rivera and Isringhausen, I have two top-tier relievers who I can safely pencil in for a total of 80 Saves. I could even easily stretch that to 85 or even 90 and wouldn't be considered unrealistic. Barring a dreaded injury, I shouldn't have to check the closer situations of each team on a daily, or even weekly, basis.

My projections for Izzy are: 1 W, 42 SV, 61 K, 2.36 ERA, 1.164 WHIP.
65Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 08:36
4.15 Marcus Giles, 2B, Atl

As round 4 went on I realized with relief that I would be able to get a decent closer with my next 2 picks. There would be one left even if holt took 2, so I left the closer to the other side of these sandwich picks.
This was a position-need choice for me, as I wanted a MI. It's tough to put together 3 decent MIs without picking up a quality one early. My choice was between Giles, Jhonny Peralta (later picked at 5.06), Felipe Lopez (5.09) and Julio Lugo (6.12 -- almost made it back to me). Looking at the group I decided that Giles was the pick given the shortage of attractive options below him at 2B. Giles is 27. Last year he was coming off a broken collarbone and other injuries and there's every reason to hope he takes a step up this year. I see .380/.475 with 100+ runs and 20 steals in his future.
66holt
      ID: 491122318
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 09:35
4.16 Trevor Hoffman, RP, SD

I knew the closer run would go into full swing sometime in the 3rd round but it worked out ok. when my 4.16 pick came around hoffman, turnbow, and f.cordero were all still available. I can see pros and cons for all 3 of them, but I finally decided on hoffman because he's had a whip under 1.20 for 12 straight seasons. turnbow doesn't have much of a track record to go by, and francisco cordero, well, I've seen him pitch in person and there's just something not right about that guy. :D
67KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 10:00
for holt
5.01 Scott Rolen, 3b, StL

I struggled with this pick. I wanted Mauer but felt that 5.01 was a reach (though I was pretty sure he'd be gone before my 6.16 pick). then I toyed with drafting felipe lopez and I had the same feeling. he's a reach at 5.01, but probably gone before 6.16. I look at the pitchers again but don't have enough confidence in a single one of em to take them here.
so I started narrowing down a list of sluggers. edmonds - love him but too much injury risk this season.
b.giles - another year older, still in SD. he'll still put up good ribc numbers, but I just couldn't get real enthused about drafting him.
carlos lee - I was ready to take him, then did a final check on his stats from last season and didn't like what I saw.
m.holliday - I think I was crossing my fingers that he'd come around to 6.16. he didn't.
thome - I suspect that he's off the juice. I try to avoid drafting ex-roiders.

so I had no idea who to draft. I kept scrolling through my cheat-sheet and finally noticed Rolen's name. he was way down the list cuz of all the cautious projections, but damn, I know Rolen can mash the ball. in '04 he went .409 .598 109-r 124-rbi. last year he stunk because the shoulder was still hurt, but the shoulder is 100% now. he's only 30 years old, and I'm pretty sure he hasn't forgotten how to hit a ball, so I feel pretty great about taking him at 5.01. I got the post-injury discount.
68KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 10:00
for Toral
5.02 Francisco Cordero, RP, Tex

Closer time. Turnbow and Cordero were the alternatives here. Turnbow was better in 04, but closers being what they are I wanted the demonstrated consistency here. Cordero is good for 35-40 saves, and 1+Ks per inning. Pitching in Texas, his ERA may be around 3 and Turnbow may well be able to repeat 04 again, but I didn't want to be doing any guesswork here. Cordero's got to be better than the one closer I came out of the draft with last year, Braden Looper.

69KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 10:01
5.03 Chipper Jones, 3B, ATL
This pick boiled down to being the lowest risk infielder left that was the highest on my sheet. I had other players ranked ahead of Jones that were "prospect-ish," but I chose to stick with a fairly known quanitity. The injuries that Jones has sustained over the last few years are of a bit of concern, but I'm hoping that playing 3B again will help him get/stay healthy. That remains to be seen. My projections are based on 450 AB, so anything over that is gravy and makes him a steal at this spot, in my opinion.

With 450 AB, I have him projected at 77 R, 90 RBI, 5 SB, .397 OBP, .536 SLG, which is somewhere between 2005 and 2003 (just not 2004). Here's hoping for 550 AB!
71Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 10:58
for mMoses
5.04 Barry Bonds, OF, SFO

This pick is my first real risk in the draft. The usual Barry questions: Was he using? How healthy is he? Can he get me another 45 hr's? I don't know the answer to any of those questions. Can Bonds be a factor if he's on his game? Yes. I couldn't let him slip any further, just in case he shows up for his usual huge %'s and a decent amount of rbi's. Even 1.071 OPS to match last season would be fine, if he will play enough AB's. The only other player I considered at this spot was Jhonny Peralta, as Bonds is already my 3rd OF.

72Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 10:58
for Chris
5.05 Rickie Weeks, 2B, MIL
By now, you can see that I was trying to fill in the scarce positions. In taking Weeks, I'm hoping that he comes close to realizing his vast potential this year.

Weeks struggled against MLB pitching last year, hitting 239/333/394 with 40BB and 96K in only 360 AB. In the minors however, this was a guy who was 284/399/487. As he continues to adjust to major league pitching, his walks should come up, his k's should go down, and we should see an improvement across the board. To top it off, he stole 15 bases in only 96 games last year, while being caught twice. I think 25 steals is a legitimate possibility here.

There isn't any question to me that he will improve. The real question is...how much?

73Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 10:59
5.06 Jhonny Peralta, Ss Cle

I want to get one of my MI slots filled now. The two most interesting options are Peralta and Brian Roberts. Roberts offers more speed, while Peralta offers more power. The speed may be a more valuable commodity, but Roberts is coming off an injury (which may or may not impact him), so I think I’ll go for the healthier option, and hope for stats similar to last year. During the second half of 2005, Peralta went 53-50-.383-.536, which provides a good foundation for optimism for this 23-year-old.

Yeah, I know, he’s a bit of a “homer” pick as well.
74JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 11:02
5.07 Derick Turnbow RP Mil
Finally grabbed a closer, at the very end of the run. I just thought by waiting I solidified my offensive core. It is a reach for me to think Turnbow can have another season like last year, 7 wins, 39 saves, and 1.08 WHIP 1.74 ERA. But I do like his K ratio, and if I get 30-35 saves out of him and anything near what he did last year, he will have rewarded my patience.
75TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 12:12
For CP via trade

5.08 Paul Konerko, 1B, CWS

I logged on early in the morning and saw that TB had this pick on the table and was intrigued. I was hoping Richie Sexson would fall in the 5th round but Guru took him earlier than I expected. I needed to add some slugging and run production and Konerko provides this in spades. Konerko is a professional hitter and gives consistant power number w/o sacrificing OBP. I'll let other players steal bags for me -- I needed a thumper. I felt I had to move on Konerko now while still allowing myself an opportunity to draft one of a slew of solid 3B that I felt would last past my next pick into the middle of the 6th round where I eventually landed the exact player I was targeting to further pump up my run production: Melvin Mora.

76I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 521191210
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 12:27
for Dave R
5.09 Felipe Lopez SS Cin

Arguably the 2 best SS's went early as expected. After that the next batch all have their own strengths.

I felt fortunate that Felipe was available at this point. He won't steal as many bases as Furcal or Rollins, but should offset that with superior power numbers. I would expect Felipe to post more Jeter-like stats than those two , 20-25 HR's, 20+ SB's, score over 100 runs with 85-90 RBI"S. Solid production for a MI in this round.

77I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 521191210
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 12:28
5.10 Carlos Lee, OF, MIL
This pick had me a little nervous. I waited 12 hours for MC/TB to trade off their pick… and they did to CAeH… I was sweating bullets cause I had a two player queue built, and one other guy in mind IF that that queue was exhausted. Luckily for me... I got #1 guy in my queue, and #2 and #3 went off right before. Carlos' blend of Speed/Power I thought were late 3rd round worthy, and I'm quite content to have, what I consider to be the poor man's Abreu.
78jumpball
      ID: 57162214
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 12:46
5.11 Troy Glaus, 3B, TOR

You guys are making a mockery of my mock drafts. I expected to be able to get one of Ensberg (not likely, but you never know), Chipper (also a stretch), Peralta, and Felipe Lopez with this pick. Back to the drawing board I go . . .

Let's see, Schmidt looks tempting . . . I already have 2 SPs though . . .
Pettitte's still available . . . oh yeah, he's a SP too . . .
There's a couple of OFs with good numbers . . . tempting . . .
Ryan Howard . . . big upside, but not a great OBP and I already have a 1B . . .
I can still use a closer . . . nobody i want to use a 5th round pick on though . . .
So what about a different 3B? . . . nah, i expect those guys to last 10 more picks . . .

WAIT . . . everything else has happened before I expected it . . . maybe I better do it now

OK, that settles it, I'm getting one of the 6th round 3Bs instead of the earlier ones just in case you all beat me to them too! Let's see . . . there's Chavez, Blalock, Glaus, and Mora to pick from . . . hmmmm . . . Chavez is ranked higher by most people, but Glaus blows the other ones away in OBP and SLG . . . a healthy season should produce 85/100/5/.360/.540 in 145-150 games. That'll be just fine!
79Athletics Guy
      ID: 43219110
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 12:57
5.12 Ryan Howard, 1B, PHI

It was a little surprising to see Ryan Howard available here. He has a good chance of having a .380/.550+ year after what he showed last season. If he hits that well over a full season, he'll have no problem hitting 40 homers and reaching 120 RBIs. He's got a great group of hitters around him, as well as a hitter-friendly home ballpark. It's very possible he may end up leading my team in RBIs Rs and SLG. So far in Spring training, Howard's the league leader with 8 HRs in only 38 ABs. I just hope he doesn't wear himself out for when the numbers actually count!

80Blue Hen
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 18:17
5.13 Joe Mauer, C, MIN

"Woah" was what AthleticsGuy said when he saw this pick. Actually, right before that, he said "I know who you're going to take" referring to Jason Giambi, my 2nd round pick in the 2004 RIBC and who carried me at the end of the 2005 season. He's right - I love Giambi. But I had four players on my list at this point: Mauer, Giambi, Chavez, and Brian Giles. Obviously, any of the four would give me some really solid stats. Chavez was really sliding, perhaps because he's had a decreasing walk rate lately. Giles has a great OBP, but his power is getting sapped by Petco. All great picks, obviously, but I rated Mauer as my number 2 catcher, and considering that the number 1 guy went 3 rounds earlier, getting Mauer here seems fine. If he does have his breakout season, with a .400 OBP and 20 homers and 20 steals in a revitalized Minnesota offense, I'll come out looking pretty good.

81Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 18:17
5.14 Brian Roberts, 2B, BAL

Again, back to my initial strategy. Unlike the first two rounds there weren't any players screaming "Pick me!". Giles and Weeks didn't make it back to me. They were definitely more attractive since Roberts does carry a bit of risk. Was last season a fluke and will he recover from his injury late last year. Here's hoping no and yes. The reports are rosy so far and like Furcal, I don't think he would have made it back to me. Let's hope Valverde does, the other player seriously considered with this pick. 3B was also considered, but I'm hoping for [undrafted] in the 8th/9th rounds.
82Hubble
      ID: 01212716
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 19:57
5.15 Jason Schmidt, SP, SF

As for my Carlos Beltran pick, i'm taking a former 1st rounder as a some risk/high reward kinda pick. Schmidt '05 season was real schidt... according to his 2002-2004 standart. In those 3 seasons he averaged 16W, 218K, 3.00 Era & 1.07 WHIP.... Last year 12W, 165K, 4.40, 1.42 . If you take out may and june, he had pretty decent #... If he come close to his 2004 #, this pick should be considered as the steal of the draft... I had targeted Schmidt before the draft as a player that could slip... with the good report so far from spring training, i just didnt want to take chances anymore... I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have make it back to me
83TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 20:11
Seeing how this is the last rationale for this thread and the fact that we both wrote one, I will post both rationales.

5.16 Johnny Damon, OF, NYY

TB's take
Just how many Yankee outfielders does our fantasy team need? When it was getting close to our 4.09 pick of Kent, Erik and I were furiously shooting emails back and forth discussing our strategy. Only four hitters had been taken since we selected Matsui in the 3rd round. We were talking about RJ a little bit when it was getting close to our pick, and we might have convinced ourselves to draft him if he wasn't taken a couple of picks before us. I know I am talking about the 4th round in our 5th round rationale, but it is all going to come together. When it was our turn to pick 4.09 we had a solid list of players that we were interested in. We narrowed it down to our top 15 players to get an idea of what two players we would be happy with in these two spots. After grabbing Kent, we were fairly sure that we were going to draft Carlos Lee on the rebound. We had 14 other players on our list that we would be happy with, but he was at the top of our board. Only four of the 15 players were taken when the draft got back to us a little after midnight, but MC had already went to bed. Before he crashed, both of us had consumed several beers and had discovered the meaning of life. We forgot to write it down, but it was life-changing. Some of the coolest ideas we've had, have been after pounding a few beers, and one of our newest ideas was to draft Damon instead of Lee. Both are solid players, but Damon provides more steals and has a better OBP, while not quite having the SLG or RBI's. We were thinking that this was a little early to grab Damon, so I tossed out the offer to trade down before going to bed and conferring with my partner in the morning. There was no guarantee that he would still be there 9 picks later, but with 11 players remaining that we would be happy with in this spot, why not trade down and try to get two of them? That's what we did. Five of the next eight picks were players we had on our board, but it worked out that we were able to get Damon and move our draft spot up in two more places.


MC's take
Oooh, we made a big trade. We were all set to pick some player we weren't happy with at 5.08 and then CanEHdian Pride fell into our laps (well, he fell on TB's lap-not that there's anything wrong with that). We just weren't psyched by any one player available at that point and so an offer to trade down 8 places (which admittedly is pretty far) was a welcome one. It enabled us to feel very good when taking Johnny D, since we were considering him with 5.08 anyway. It seemed a better value, and also allowed us to land Pettitte with the very next pick. Maybe we would have gotten him at 6.09? Crystal ball is fuzzy...

TB worried a little about the perception that coming to New York has a negative effect on many players in the first year. Apparently A-Rod was merely a Demi-God in 2004 when he arrived at the Bronx. Whatever. Johnny Damon has been playing under some pretty bright lights up at Fenway the last few years himself. And he's also been in some pretty tight games in Yankee Stadium. He's a cool customer that gets on base more than me (and I work for the Air Force!). We expect 978 stolen bases, but won't be disappointed with 23. And we are cornering the market on Yankee outfielders, mwa hahaha.
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