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0 Subject: RIBC 2006: draft discussion #2

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Mon, Mar 20, 2006, 15:07

Time to move to a new thread.

discussion thread #1
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134blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 10:57
I left a long queue for my 25th pick... Feel free to use it.
135Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 11:01
I wonder if Anna Benson is on it.
139blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 11:09
I thought we were only allowed to draft major leaguers. Otherwise I'd move Tim Brown to the top of the list.
140Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 11:15
You can draft anyone. If you draft someone who is not listed on Yahoo, a placeholder will be assigned to your roster, and you will have first rights to that player if/when they are listed.

After the draft ends, you may no longer reserve a roster spot for an unlisted player. You must wait until the player is listed, and then go through the regular waiver claiming process.

So if you want Anna, round 25 is probably your last chance.
142CanEHdian Pride
      ID: 161101820
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 11:32
queues are great for the last 2 rounds of a draft. More likely than not these guys will be cut before Spring Training ends.......
144blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 12:01
Eh, thanks for helping thin out the catchers. But I disagree... the 25th pick usually lasts longer than the 23rd or 24th.
145KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 36238119
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 12:10
More likely than not these guys will be cut before Spring Training ends.......

Speak for your own picks. :)
146Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 12:22
A second catcher before your fifth outfielder?
Who's playing whom?
147KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 36238119
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 12:59
Technically, it was before even his 4th OFer as Hairston was taken 2 rounds after A.J and Damon was traded away.
149CanEHdian Pride
      ID: 161101820
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 14:49
Dmitri Young is elgible in the OF -- I had 4 at the time. Catchers are more likely to get injured then OFs and OFs are much more readily available on the WW. Why would I not pick up a backup catcher before a 5th OF...especially when the pickings are so slim.
152Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 19:13
I'm going to skip by mMoses' round 25 pick. He's already been skipped once, and he's already been on the clock for more than 12 hours today.
153jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 20:08
Guru, I was poking around the Yahoo! site and noticed that you have a bunch of rounds already entered. As a commissioner myself, I know that's a painful process!

I also noticed that the teams aren't in the actual drafting order. If you set the draft order now, the waiver priority will automatically be set correctly when you start the season.

Thanks for administating both the draft and the league.
168Hubble
      ID: 01212716
      Sat, Mar 25, 2006, 23:31
Sorry for the rationales, it was a hectic week... i'm fixing a 230 year old house 30 miles from house and those are long days... no net access over there yet.

Was a good week though, i poured the freakin concrete slab yesterday and its good to not walk on dirt or raybar anymore. I promise ill post rationale 25 in time!
171Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 08:12
Please post your remaining rationales here, and I'll copy them over in sequence later on.
182Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 13:33
I started a general Draft recap thread. You are not required to contribute to that, but I encourage you to do so.

Please post remaining rationales here ASAP. I won't list those that we are awaiting - you should know who you are.

Thanks to everyone for a well paced draft. We got off to a sluggish start, but the pace turned out to be just fine. I'm sure the OTC software played a big role in keeping things moving along - especially use of the improved queue process. I've given KKB some ideas on possible software enhancements for future drafts, but I'm sure he'd like feedback from anyone who has ideas to share.

I will have all players entered at Yahoo by tomorrow. At that time, I will launch the league. All undrafted players will be on waivers for two days, after which you may make waiver or free agent transactions as usual. The initial waiver priorities will be the reverse of the first round draft order.

I'll also post a consolidated summary of draft picks (high, low, avg, etc.) for all six RIBC drafts, but that will wait until the final league has completed its draft.
185Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 20:54
Holt drafted Uggla, who is not yet available in Yahoo. When Uggla is listed, holt may pick up Uggla after he clears waivers (unless I can figure out how to make that change while Uggla is still on waivers).

Can anyone suggest a player to serve as an Uggla placeholder on holt's roster for now?
186Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 21:02
Ditto for Joel Zumaya on KKB's team.

Ditto for Russ Martin on Chris' team.
187Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 21:07
Ditto for Nick Markakis on TB/MC.
188KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 152162422
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 21:08
[undrafted], I mean Mike Hampton (SP, ATL), is available in Yahoo and should be out the entire season after Tommy John surgery.
189Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 21:17
Those are the only four unlisted players.
190KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 152162422
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 21:19
More players out for the season who are listed in Yahoo...

Aaron Rakers (BAL, torn labrum surgery)

Craig Dingman (DET, not officially out for the season, but you have to believe that artery bypass surgery doesn't have a quick timetable for a return)

Juan Padilla (NYM, Tommy John surgery)

Shinji Mori (TAM, torn labrum)

Luis Ayala (WAS, Tommy John surgery)

And if needed, Brian Lawrence (WAS, not officially out, but he has a torn labrum and rotator cuff so it's likely)
191Athletics Guy
      ID: 43219110
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 21:36
Wow, look at all those injured players. How did they manage to slip past BH?
192blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 21:40
Lawrence was high on my queue at one point.
193Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 22:14
Roger Clemens is retired. : )

194JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Sun, Mar 26, 2006, 22:58
There is a function under commisioner tools to change a player's waiver date. Also under commisioner tools there is an option to edit rosters and add a player. Even if Yahoo recognizes these moves as a waiver pickup, there is also a commisioner tool option to reset waiver priorities.
195Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 27, 2006, 09:24
I made the following placeholder substitutions:

holt: Dingman subs for Uggla
KKB: Ayala subs for Zumaya
Chris: Rakers subs for Russ Martin
TB/MC: Mori subs for Markakis

When the drafted player becomes available, please let me know and I can probably make the substitution directly using commissioner powers. Failing that, each team may pick up the target player after he has cleared waivers.

If a placeholder player is dropped before the originally drafted player is available, then that team forfeits its priority claim on that player.

I plan to release the league later this morning. All undrafted players will be on waivers for 2 days. During that period, please review your roster to make sure I have entered the correct players.
196Athletics Guy
      ID: 43219110
      Mon, Mar 27, 2006, 13:21
My team has Scott Munter instead of Mark Mulder.
197Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 27, 2006, 14:50
Noted. It appears that I cannot make that change immediately, as it will not let me move undrafted players from waivers. (It does allow that capability during the season, but I guess it only works for dropped players, not undrafted ones.)

You can make that change on Wednesday, after players clear waivers. Or I can do it then, too - whoever gets there first.
199blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Tue, Mar 28, 2006, 21:10
Ryan Church sent to minors, which means that BRANDON WATSON will now share CF with Marlon Byrd! Sweet!
200TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Mar 28, 2006, 22:27
I didn't even realize you drafted him. I shot an email to MC a couple hours ago about him. Could be a great late round grab for you.
201Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Mar 29, 2006, 08:39
Delinquent rationale update:

holt and mMoses each still have a lot of rationales outstanding. Please provide ASAP!

CEHP, you are missing rationales for 23.16 & 24.01
204JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Thu, Mar 30, 2006, 12:06
Chris and cEHp still need to 'unbench' their active players.
205CanEHdian Pride
      ID: 392232614
      Thu, Mar 30, 2006, 19:01
Guru - RE 201 - mine are @ post 184
206Dave R
      Dude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Mar 30, 2006, 20:23
I think Blue Hen should have to redo his rational for Kris Benson
212TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Apr 02, 2006, 04:53
holt: Dingman subs for Uggla
KKB: Ayala subs for Zumaya
Chris: Rakers subs for Russ Martin
TB/MC: Mori subs for Markakis


Uggla is now in the yahoo database. I shot an email question to yahoo on adding players through their help queries, but without getting any type of response, I have no idea how successful it was. With Markakis making the roster, I am hoping he is added soon so we can have him in the line-up by 6 April.
213Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Apr 02, 2006, 07:53
I moved Uggla on to holt's roster.
214Motley Crue
      ID: 2192327
      Sun, Apr 02, 2006, 10:04
As far as Markakis goes, if he's not listed in Yahoo, we just don't get to use his stats until they add him?

TB, why are you hoping he's there by the 6th? The games start on the 3rd.
Does he have to clear waivers before he's added to our roster?

How annoying.
215KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 36238119
      Sun, Apr 02, 2006, 10:55
No stats until they're added to your roster. That's the fun of drafting unavailable players.
216TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Apr 02, 2006, 13:16
MC, sure I think it would be great if he was available right now, but the 6th is the first day Baltimore plays AND we have an open OF/UTIL spot to fill.
217Athletics Guy
      ID: 36339120
      Sun, Apr 02, 2006, 16:54
Well, my team is off to a good start...

Cameron and Benitez have been placed on the DL.
With Miller and Delmon also on my roster, I have no bench at all!

It's like last year all over again.
218Athletics Guy
      ID: 36339120
      Sun, Apr 02, 2006, 16:55
On the bright side, Rodney may be closing for DET during the first 2 weeks, so he should be good for a save or two.
219Motley Crue
      ID: 2192327
      Sun, Apr 02, 2006, 21:07
TB, Baltimore plays Tampa Bay tomorrow night. April 3rd. Not sure which schedule you're looking at.
220KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 0210919
      Sun, Apr 02, 2006, 21:13
MC, note the all-caps "AND" in the statement. Sure BAL plays before 04/06, but 04/06 is the first time that you'll need an OF/UTL and BAL happens to play on that date. Thus, 04/06 would be a prime date to have Markakis on your team. Before then, you can complete your lineup with other players (i.e. - you don't NEED Markakis before then).

After recent calculations, I have decided that you and TB need to communicate more. ;)
221holt
      ID: 45229226
      Sun, Apr 02, 2006, 21:19
thanks guru. I was wondering when they were gonna get around to that.
222Athletics Guy
      ID: 36339120
      Mon, Apr 03, 2006, 01:02
Are the rationales in this thread going be moved into the other thread later on?

I just want to see my Wade Miller rationale included so I can brag about that pick after I win the league. ;)
223TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Mon, Apr 03, 2006, 10:46
Rationales have been moved over. Delinquent rationale update:

mMoses is missing a lot of rationales; Rounds 18-25
Blue Hen is missing 10.04
224blue hen
      ID: 38135621
      Mon, Apr 03, 2006, 12:19
I definitely wrote a Morneau rationale, but it seems to be lost. I'll see if I can muster up another one but...
225Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Apr 03, 2006, 12:26
Yes, the rationales will be moved, but I've got higher priorities right now.

If there was a Morneau rational posted, I can probably find in the archives.

I'm going to start a new thread for regular season discussion.
226Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Mon, Apr 03, 2006, 13:19
MC, note the all-caps "AND" in the statement. Sure BAL plays before 04/06, but 04/06 is the first time that you'll need an OF/UTL and BAL happens to play on that date. Thus, 04/06 would be a prime date to have Markakis on your team. Before then, you can complete your lineup with other players (i.e. - you don't NEED Markakis before then).

After recent calculations, I have decided that you and TB need to communicate more. ;)


I love jokes at my own expense! I just love jokes in general.

You know, I saw that AND there, but I read the sentence in a different way than it was intended. I thought he was just whining that we had an open lineup spot. He does that sometimes.

KKB, you are a funny guy. Not like a clown. Not like you are just here to amuse me. You know. Just funny. Your stories are funny.
227TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Mon, Apr 03, 2006, 13:33
I could have done a better job with how I worded that post, but I am now glad I didn't. Funny stuff.
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