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Subject: Dear Harold: You're Fired
Posted by: ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
- [3262259] Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 10:07
Okay, blue hen ... what's the insider scoop on this story from the New York Post? (Heard about it on WEEI Radio this morning.)
July 25, 2006 -- ESPN yesterday fired analyst Harold Reynolds from Baseball Tonight, sources told The Post. The reason was not immediately known. "We are not going to comment," ESPN VP Josh Krulewitz said.
When asked how they are going to explain that Reynolds will never be on the air again, Krulewitz still declined comment.
Click link below for the remainder of the article.
ESPN Fires Reynolds |
| 1 | Razor
ID: 47525714
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 10:22
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Wow, HR out just like that? He's been a fixture on Baseball Tonight for years. I liked him.
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| 2 | beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 10:27
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Wow, HR out just like that? He's been a fixture on Baseball Tonight for years. I liked him.
I agree. He must have done something behind the scenes to cause this.
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| 3 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 10:34
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No idea. I was a fan of his.
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| 4 | Perm Dude
ID: 2645258
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 10:38
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Well, that explains it, then!
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| 5 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 10:56
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I'm a fan of yours too, Perm Dude...
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| 6 | Perm Dude
ID: 2645258
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 10:57
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I'm lucky I work for myself, then.
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| 7 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 12:14
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He seemed like a good guy and more or less knew his stuff. He was even willing to cover the Little League WS every year and I appreciated that he enjoyed doing it.
I wonder what happened.
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| 8 | JeffG
ID: 146591911
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 13:33
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I really liked Reynolds. He is a quality on-air guy, and I would have figured he'd be the golden child of ESPN TV. I'm sure he was under contract so he had to have done something for ESPN to warrant this action.
I remember about 3 years ago when ESPN.com canned Gregg Easterbrook (aka the 'Tuesday Morning Quarterback') because of comments he made in one of his non-ESPN political columns that then-Disney-president Michael Eisner interpreted as anti-semetic.
I've been googling trying to find out any info. Nothing as of yet.
I did trip across this Deadspin item and message board. As of now, there is not much substance to anyof the posts there, but it was the only thing I found.
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| 9 | holt
ID: 386122123
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 13:40
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Read a comment about the fact that ESPN fired Reynolds but still employs Michael Irvin. That has really got to make you wonder.
A lot of us are Reynolds fans. It's irritating that all ESPN has to say is "No comment".
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| 10 | Motley Crue
ID: 2192327
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 13:45
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holt, is there a website perhaps that shows that there's a strong chance that Reynolds was murdered as well?
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| 11 | J
Leader
ID: 10171012
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 13:46
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I think ESPN is trying to tank to get a better draft pick next year.
With clueless guys like Kruk and Steve Phillips on the show, I can't think of any other reason.
They need to get Tony Gwynn in there!!!!
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| 12 | clv
Sustainer
ID: 5911351713
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 13:46
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Just another in the long line of reasons I don't care for the network's baseball coverage.
Love the phone though!!!
;-P
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| 13 | J
Leader
ID: 10171012
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 13:47
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murdered??? wtf?
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| 14 | holt
ID: 386122123
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 13:58
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J - I think it was an attempt to be witty.
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| 15 | Khahan
ID: 1563140
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 14:22
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It is pretty surprising. I always like Reynolds on air personality. He had good commentary. While I didn't always agree with his analysis, he was never so far off-base with his comments that I had to sit there and wonder if he actually was ever involved in baseball or not.
Sorry to see him go.
But I think the article linked in post 8 has a clue, "- he was all a little too "Big Papi, yeah!!!!"
ESPN is so NY-centric. Reynolds was cheering for Big Papi and Boston. Of course he's gone. ;)
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| 16 | JeffG
ID: 146591911
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 15:49
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Internet rumors say it was sexual harrassment
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| 17 | Steve Biz
Sustainer
ID: 28952820
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 19:24
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Khahan- not sure what ESPN your talking about. ESPN loves Bean Town. Maybe not as much as NY, but it's close.
Most of what I've read on a couple different sites is that it's sexual harrassment. Apparently Harold is a little too loose with the interns.
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| 18 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 296171622
Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 19:27
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Two words: Erin Andrews
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| 19 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 00:53
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she's definitely worth getting fired over!!!!!!!1
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| 20 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 08:46
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"To be honest with you, I gave a woman a hug and I felt like it was misinterpreted."
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| 21 | Perm Dude
ID: 50619268
Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 09:49
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Sure, but it was from behind. And he was making little whipping motions with his hand.
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| 22 | clv
Sustainer
ID: 5911351713
Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 09:56
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Two words: Erin Andrews
Someone just HAD to say those two words and keep me from getting any work done for the forseeable future, didn't they?!?!?!?!?
:-O
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| 23 | Razor
ID: 47525714
Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 10:08
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Getting fired for a hug? Baldwin is going to have a field day.
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| 24 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 01:00
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new guy sucks
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| 25 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 559511416
Sat, Oct 14x, 2006, 18:57
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Fox fires "Psycho" for "insensitive comment"
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| 26 | KM
ID: 39421312
Sat, Oct 14x, 2006, 19:28
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Yeah, I remember thinking - uh, can you say that on TV?
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| 27 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 10:27
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So he got fired for saying Pinella was "hablaing Espanol" and joking with Pinella about the wallet comment?
Sheesh, I've heard FAR worse before with nobody getting fired. Get some of the former players together, like Sutcliffe and Kruk, and they seem to go off on each other left and right about pitchers v. batters. I don't see much difference between what Lyons apparently said with regards to the wallet and what those guys would say to each other.
Heck, I'm pretty sure I've heard worse from Terry Bradshaw on Sunday mornings.
I sometimes think we're beginning to become TOO racially sensitive to the point that nobody can even take a joke anymore.
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| 29 | JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 11:51
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I think that was Psycho's 'third strike'. He made what FOX exectives thought was a insensitive comment regarding Shawn Green NOT playing on the Jewish high holidays last year during his teams pennant drive, and he had made a comment when the cameras showed a sight impaired person in the stands aided by some device.
Still, no matter what degree of insensitivity you consider these comments, it is crazy how knee-jerk the network was.
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| 30 | holt
ID: 10830261
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 15:04
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who knows, maybe they were just waiting for a decent excuse to fire him.
I didn't see the "glasses" incident the other night. I was in the kitchen doing something, but I heard people in the TV room mention the odd glasses. no one knew what they were. I asked what was up and they said "can't describe it. like the announcer says, looks like digital camera on his face".
I also didn't see the "wallet" thing. was he really making a "hispanics steal wallets" joke? is there any other way to interpret what he said, to give him the benefit of the doubt? it's hard to believe that an announcer would be so ignorant as to make a joke like that on national tv. if that was his intent, then he needs to be checked for a brain tumor.
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| 31 | Seattle Zen
ID: 46315247
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 15:27
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Until Fox puts a Breathalyzer on Rick Sutcliff's mic, they can't be very serious about not offending the listening public.
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| 32 | holt
ID: 10830261
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 15:34
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LOL. I thought drunk sutcliffe was hysterical. in fact, if there was an optional drunken MLB broadcast you could tune in to, I would probably choose it over the sober one most of time. drunk Sutcliffe makes me laugh - something that Buck and McCarver could never hope to do.
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| 33 | Tree
ID: 459321513
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 15:36
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this definitely seems like overreacting. i'm not sure what they are zeroing in on in regards to Lyons' comments, but nothing he said to Pinella seemed even remotely racially insensitive to me.
in regards to the guy with the funky glasses - they were just that. they were funky, odd, and i dare say that 99 percent of the population had no idea what they were. they looked like something out of Star Trek - which, incidently, is where the name of the device - the Jordi - comes from.
the very next game, Lyons and the rest of the Fox crew offered a very sincere, no BS, on-air apology.
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| 34 | Razor
ID: 47525714
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 10:28
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If you've watched Lyons enough, you'll know that he was not trying to make a racist joke about Pinella and the wallets. He's just not funny and badly bungled the joke. It's a shame that it cost him his job, though. Seems like all of his insensitive comments were just lousy attempts at jokes.
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| 35 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 12:23
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This is an overraction. Razor is dead-on.
I was watching when Buck and Lyons talked about the blind fan. Also watched the next game when Buck issued an apology (wasn't just Lyons).
People like Campanis or Jimmy the Greek should be fired for their intentional ignorant remarks. But otherwise innocuous comments by Lyons or even Howard Cosell were obviously not meants as insults. At least let them apologize for the perceived misconstrued comments or seemingly "stereotypical behavior" by a certain race, religion or class. You've got to be PC, but I'm so tired of people getting thrown under the bus and management distancing themselves so quickly on things like this.
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| 36 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:01
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And Lamar Thomas...
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| 37 | JeffG
ID: 146591911
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 16:21
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You can see and hear on Youtube Lyons comments as part of a FOX-5 NY news story.
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| 38 | Da Bomb
ID: 487112814
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 17:16
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Interesting, Piniella even laughed after Lyons made those comments.
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| 39 | holt
ID: 10830261
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 20:22
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i'm still struggling to understand what the joke was that he was trying to make. I'd like to think there was a joke there and he just struck out, but I can't see it. all I can see is that he basically said hispanics steal wallets and that he doesn't want to sit by someone speaking a language other than english. pretty stupid.
piniella may have laughed just to ease the awkwardness. either that, or he understood the "joke".
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| 40 | holt
ID: 10830261
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 20:25
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btw, no surprise that this came from the same person who pulled his pants down in front of a stadium-full of people. his mind must just run on auto-pilot at times.
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| 41 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 449441618
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 22:33
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Lyons could lose more than his job with Fox. According to the L.A. Times:
... Lyons is also a part-time television commentator for the Dodgers, working alongside Charley Steiner on the road games east of the Rocky Mountains that Vin Scully does not do.
Dodgers spokesman Josh Rawitch said Lyons' status with the team is under review. The same is true of Lyons' status as a pre- and post-game analyst for FSN Prime Ticket.
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| 42 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 23:12
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Like rats on a burning ship...
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| 43 | Toral
ID: 52621719
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 23:15
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Lyons is a terrible commentator so I wouldn't be sad to see him disappear. Yet this is a PC firing with no legitmate rationale.
Toral
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| 44 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 23:21
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Agreed. He is a horrible commentator.
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| 45 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 01:25
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He's not as bad as Pineilla though! Hopefully he wont get anywhere near the World Series broadcast booth!
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| 46 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 10:24
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holt, RE: 39. You're struggling with it and thinking that's what Lyons was saying because the clip was taken COMPLETELY out of context. Notice the clip started AFTER Pinella's comments. We never hear what Lyons was responding to. How convenient for the network that just fired Lyons.
It's quite clear that the FOX news channel tried to make it look/sound as bad as possible. I think if they had put it in context, it would have been written off by most people as a bunch of stupid guys being stupid with each other.
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| 47 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 10:26
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Lyons' job with the Dodgers is safe. Or so he said on Mike and Mike this morning.
Lyons may have his head in the clouds, but I don't think he's a bad guy. I have much more disagreement with some announcers who have jobs.
Granted - Jon Miller would never have said anything like what Psycho has said lately.
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| 48 | JeffG
ID: 146591911
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 15:19
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From SI.com.
Seventeen notable broadcast blunders
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| 49 | KM
ID: 319311512
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 15:38
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re: 46
I definitely agree that FOX is being a little unfair, and that this PC firing is a little ridiculous, but I at least understand FOX's perspective:
Mediocre broadcaster makes bad attempt at joke, which offends a very small percentage of people who interpret the comments as race-based. Mediocre broadcaster has made similar innocently stupid comments, which offend a very small percentage of people. Therefore:
New broadcaster who probably can't be much worse at commentary and doesn't offend very small amount of people > mediocre broadcaster who does.
I might be wrong, but do you guys think a better broadcaster gets booted for those comments?
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| 50 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 15:47
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Dammit, JeffG - why'd you have to link to a page that has a link to "College Cheerleaders" on it? Now I haven't gotten any work done for the last hour...
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| 51 | holt
ID: 10830261
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 16:11
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dammit now I have to check that link!
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| 52 | holt
ID: 10830261
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 16:17
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great link jeff.
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| 53 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 20:13
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Harold Reynold's contract has made it into court.
link
The deal with Reynolds, an independent contractor, was worth a combined $4.875 million. Along with covering the Little League World Series and post-season Major League games, Reynolds was required to cover 15 regular season games, spend 85 "studio days" at ESPN's Bristol, Connecticut headquarters, and make three personal appearances on behalf of the network. The agreement states that the network could terminate Reynolds's deal if the announcer were to be involved in any "willful or egregious" act that would "constitute an act of moral turpitude" or which would "otherwise constitute public humiliation" to ESPN. It appears that this section of the agreement will prove to be central to the network's defense of its actions.
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| 54 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 155391111
Fri, Jun 15, 2007, 10:43
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Reynolds hired by MLB.com as broadcaster
... While Reynolds' current deal is for the Web site only, he's looking ahead to the launch of the MLB Network in 2009.
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| 55 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Jun 18, 2007, 15:36
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Deadspin Interview
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| 56 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 19512115
Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 16:52
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Phillips takes leave of absence
ESPN suspends steve phillips
Let's see if he gets the "Harold Reynolds" treatment from the Disney empire.
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| 57 | Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 18:12
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Ouch, I thought it was a dude in the picture.
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| 58 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 209152519
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 21:15
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Phillips fired
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| 59 | Q-Tipp
ID: 169452521
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 23:45
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Did anybody check out the letter that the mistress wrote to the wife? Included some pretty damaging revelations.
Phillips deserves all the shame and embarassment he can get.
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| 60 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 11:35
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Did anybody check out the picture of this Brooke girl? Wow Steve, which was uglier...her or the Kazmir trade?
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| 61 | name
ID: 2010351820
Wed, Nov 18, 2009, 21:35
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| 62 | holt
ID: 308491916
Thu, Nov 19, 2009, 01:57
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you're welcome. np
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| 63 | name
ID: 461022200
Fri, Nov 20, 2009, 01:22
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| 64 | name
ID: 591022200
Fri, Nov 20, 2009, 01:22
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| 65 | holt
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 20, 2009, 02:23
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| 66 | biliruben
ID: 16105237
Fri, Nov 20, 2009, 09:45
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Talking to spambots is a sure sign of insanity.
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| 67 | Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Fri, Nov 20, 2009, 09:57
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Not if they talk back and tell you what they really want you to do.
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