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Subject: RIBC 2007

Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 17:02

The following managers will comprise the 2007 RIBC:

Holt (pending acceptance)
Trip
Dave R
Athletics Guy
Guru
Blue Hen
KrazyKoalaBears
Building 7
Peter N.
StLCards
filthy
tosh
philsphan
Flying Polack
Bags
JTSERB

I've received confirmation from everyone except Holt, last year's champ. I'm assuming he will return as well, and hope to hear from him ASAP.

Meanwhile, we can use this thread to begin to organize. The first order of business is discuss any potential rule changes for the 2007 season. I'll see if I can find a convenient summary of last year's rules to copy and paste.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 17:04

These appear to be the Yahoo settings from last year's league:

Teams: 16
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Player Universe: All baseball
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 1
Trade End Date: August 27, 2006
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: None
Trade Review: Commissioner
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 162
Max Innings Pitched: 1350
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Sunday, Apr 2

Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN

Stat Categories: R, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 17:21

Are you kidding? Those rules were pretty perfect. I wouldn't touch a thing.

I am officially setting my goal at either winning, or at the very least, finishing 14th, ahead of Mach and Peter N.

Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 18:44

I'm excited to get this going. My goal is to not embarrass myself...

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 18:49

I am officially setting my goal at either winning, or at the very least, finishing 13th, ahead of blue hen, Mach, and Peter N.

It should be a great season! I'm looking forward to it!

filthy
ID: 211501517
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 18:54

Time to shake some rust off the old trading finger!

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 18:58

Is Building 7 a new handle for an old poster, or do I just not pay enough attention?

Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 19:02

6

Looks like The Treasonists?

Building 7
ID: 571192610
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 20:29

Yes, I used to be The Treasonists. That had such a negative connotation, so I'm trying out a new name. I was in your AA league a couple years ago. Somehow I made it in to this league.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 20:36

bjclinton was pretty cool

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 20:44

Building,

I remember you, certainly.

Dude, let me tell you: we somehow made it into RIBC last year. It's killer competition. Draft well. And as always, look out for blue hen.

Personally, I thought The Treasonists was one of the best handles I've ever seen online. If I remember correctly what your job is, however, I can see why you changed it.

As exciting as Building 7 is, well, The Treasonists won't be one I soon forget.

Building 7
ID: 571192610
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 21:56

So blue hen is the early odds on favorite? He did well in the mock draft IMO.

Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 22:10

Building,

Yes I do remember you from AA a couple of years back. I look forward to competing again. You had me by 20+ points that season.

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Fri, Feb 16, 2007, 08:58

No rule changes, IMHO.

StLCards
ID: 0930216
Fri, Feb 16, 2007, 17:21

Rules look fine to me.

Peter N.
ID: 490381517
Sat, Feb 17, 2007, 01:05

Rules look good. My goal is to beat Tosh and blue hen. That probably means finishing 14th, but I'll take it. :-)

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Sat, Feb 17, 2007, 02:38

I think the rules look good.. Looking forward to playing with top notch competition this year.

Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sat, Feb 17, 2007, 07:38

Looks good...

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 07:36

No rule changes here.

Guru
ID: 381262111
Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 13:37

Email was sent to all managers with details on registering at Yahoo and kafenatid.

Here's my tentative thinking on time frame: We will start the draft on or about March 8. We may go untimed for a day or two, or may simply activate the draft a day early, with March 8 as the date that the clock is turned on. The clock will probably be set at 6 hours, including weekends, with a nightly moratorium of 6-8 hours. I figure out the details later.

We'll hold the draft² starting sometime around March 1. As you may recall, this is the one round process during which we select our draft pick sequence. We could start that now, but I want to wait until later because I know that many (including me) have not yet begin preparing in earnest, and it's always helpful to have started the prep work before making that decision.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 22, 2007, 10:15

Looks like Holt and Trip are among the 4 who haven't gotten in yet. I guess we'll have to find replacements. Man, that's lucky for the rest of us.

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Feb 23, 2007, 14:55

Looks like everyone is in now.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Feb 23, 2007, 15:06

Everyone is signed up at Yahoo.

Two people have still not yet signed up at kafenatid.net

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 14:11

I put together a table this morning with all Yahoo hitters and their current position eligibilities. Free for the taking:
http://rotoguru1.com/base/Yahoo-pos-2-26-07.xls

First column is the Yahoo ID#. Then name, team, and position(s).

Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 09:53

Hi guys,

Thanks for the invite! I'm excited about my first Rotoguru Invitational.

I want to let y'all know I'm traveling tomorrow and Thursday. I'm supposed to have internet access in my hotel room, but you never know. I'll be back in my regular routine on Friday morning. I don't have any other trips scheduled for March.

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 13:52

I, too, will be traveling. I'll be gone tomorrow through Saturday. Should be back Sunday. I should have internet access and will check in from time to time.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 14:45

It looks like everyone but Dave R has registered at kafenatid.net

I think I have properly decoded the other 15 names.
Let me know if I have anything wrong:
Kafenatid name Gurupie name
Fred KrazyKoalaBears
RocketRichard filthy
DallasHomer Bags
ttucowboy Peter N.
bjclinton0 Building 7
sundaytripper Trip
davelipman blue hen
(other names are the same for both)

Building 7
ID: 571192610
Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 22:32

Going to Louisiana for a few days. Be back Sunday. If I'm needed to pick my draft slot, just give me the lowest draft pick available....the one closest to #1.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 10:54

OK - I've procrastinated long enough. It's time to begin the draft selection process.

I need two RIBC managers to email me a set of the integers 1-16 arranged in any order. I will use the first set received to resequence an alphabetical list of the 16 managers, and the second to assign the order of selection.

Using this selection order, we will then each sequentially select our position in for the RIBC draft. That draft will snake, so the person drafting #1 in the first round will draft last in the second round. In addition, waiver priorites immediately after the draft will be in "even round" order.

Once I receive two sets of numbers, I'll post the results and we can begin.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 12:16

Trip sent the following series: 3 7 2 16 4 8 10 1 12 5 9 6 15 11 13 14

Flying Polack then sent this set: 13 8 7 1 16 5 4 10 14 3 6 9 12 11 2 15

Using those two sets as described above, here is the order for the selection round:

1 Dave R
2 philsphan
3 Flying Polack
4 Bags
5 Peter N.
6 StLCards
7 Athletics Guy
8 Blue Hen
9 Holt
10 filthy
11 Trip
12 tosh
13 Guru
14 KrazyKoalaBears
15 Building 7
16 JTSERB

So, Dave R gets to choose his selection order first. We can begin this round immediately. There is no clock for this round, but try to make your best efforts to pick when it is your turn.

I'm still aiming to start the draft next week, probably on Thursday.

Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 15:51

I'll pick 5th

Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 16:12

I always love picking on the end, just always been 16th...

Let's try the front end for once.

1 Philsphan
2
3
4
5 Dave R
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16

Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 16:34

I'll go 6th.

Bags @ work
ID: 1120216
Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 17:12

1 Philsphan
2
3
4
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16

Peter N.
ID: 490381517
Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 17:42

I'll pick 8th.

1 Philsphan
2
3
4
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16

Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 17:49

I'm starting to get the feeling that no one likes me... ;-)

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 17:49

I'll pick 2nd.

1 Philsphan
2 StLCards
3
4
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16

Athletics Guy
ID: 281162612
Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 01:06

1 Philsphan
2 StLCards
3 Athletics Guy
4
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16

blue hen
ID: 36210323
Sun, Mar 04, 2007, 00:21

1 Philsphan
2 StLCards
3 Athletics Guy
4
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9 Blue Hen
10
11
12
13
14
15
16

holt
ID: 590581711
Sun, Mar 04, 2007, 15:59

1 Philsphan
2 StLCards
3 Athletics Guy
4
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9 Blue Hen
10 Holt
11
12
13
14
15
16

Building 7
Sustainer
ID: 171572711
Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 10:59

I'll check back on Friday.

C1-NRB
ID: 24954318
Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 11:10

Pardon the interruption, but what's wrong with the #4 pick?!
Has the #4 drafter come in last every year? Is it unlucky? Cursed?
If #13 goes before #4 I'll be even more concerned.
I belonged to a discussion group when the internet was young where the running gag was, when doing a list of anything, there was no #4.
It's piqued my curiosity because I chose the #4 pick in AAA PCL. I'm beginning to question my draft before I've even picked my first player.

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 11:15

C1 - go see the movie "The Number 23" and realize that #4 comes right after 2 and 3, and thus you are just as cursed as Jim Carrey! lol

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 11:21

I just reviewed last year's draft thread, and see that we started the draft clock on Friday and finished 16 days later on a Monday, almost a week before the season started. So, assuming we can move at a similarly brisk pace, I think I'll activate the clock on Friday morning once again.

I'll probably activate the draft on Thursday, so that those who are ready can jump the gun.

I assume that everyone will be ready and available to start no later than Friday morning? Will anyone not be available a day or two early? I don't want to activate early if we're going to stall quickly.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 11:27

Ready when you are. This draft of drafts is going slower than I remembered last year.

Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 11:58

I'm ready to go too. I think I finally figured out who to pick...

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 12:33

C1, I know I messed up some draft spot selections last year when I took a certain pitcher earlier than expected. Some people choose their spot with a particular player in mind and hope to get them as late as possible so they can get as early as possible a pick in the second round. Thus, if you feel you can get a player at the #7 slot (for example), why would you take the #4 slot and select said player and then select later in the 2nd round?

My guess is that a number of people don't feel there's much value in the #4 spot compared to their selected spot and the subsequent 2nd round spot.

It's not always about having the highest draft spot possible...

Bags
ID: 2500120
Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 14:24

I will be leaving for vacation with the family unit on Sat morning. I will leave a queue and should be back online Sun.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 20:50

If we don't hear from filthy by tomorrow morning, I'm going to select on his behalf. We need to move on. (I did send him an email around noon today.)

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 12:54

All right, we've waited long enough. I sent him a second email this morning, but still no response. I hope this isn't a harbinger of things to come.

I'm going to assign filthy to the #16 slot. This isn't because I think 16 is either the best or the worst of those available. Frankly, I think they are all pretty comparable. I'm putting him in the 16 slot so that if he is similarly AWOL at any time during the draft, he won't have as many opportunities to bog things down (i.e., only once per 2 rounds, rather than once per round.) It's essentially a "best interests of the league" selection.

1 Philsphan
2 StLCards
3 Athletics Guy
4
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9 Blue Hen
10 Holt
11
12
13
14
15
16 filthy

Trip is up. Tosh on deck.

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 14:11

1 Philsphan
2 StLCards
3 Athletics Guy
4 Trip
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9 Blue Hen
10 Holt
11
12
13
14
15
16 filthy

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 14:15

1 Philsphan
2 StLCards
3 Athletics Guy
4 Trip
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9 Blue Hen
10 Holt
11 Tosh
12
13
14
15
16 filthy

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 14:27

1 Philsphan
2 StLCards
3 Athletics Guy
4 Trip
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9 Blue Hen
10 Holt
11 Tosh
12 Guru
13
14
15
16 filthy

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 14:36

1 Philsphan
2 StLCards
3 Athletics Guy
4 Trip
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9 Blue Hen
10 Holt
11 Tosh
12 Guru
13
14 KrazyKoalaBears
15
16 filthy

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 14:46

Building 7 said:
Going to Louisiana for a few days. Be back Sunday. If I'm needed to pick my draft slot, just give me the lowest draft pick available....the one closest to #1.

Does that mean he gets #13? Or are we waiting till Friday?

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 15:02

I say give him #13. No sense in waiting 3 days for someone to decide between #13 and #15. Especially when he's already said to get the closest one to #1.

Building 7
Sustainer
ID: 171572711
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 15:31

I'm here. Let me pick.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 16:44

Yes?

Building 7
Sustainer
ID: 171572711
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 16:45

1 Philsphan
2 StLCards
3 Athletics Guy
4 Trip
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9 Blue Hen
10 Holt
11 Tosh
12 Guru
13 Building 7
14 KrazyKoalaBears
15
16 filthy

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 17:41

1 Philsphan
2 StLCards
3 Athletics Guy
4 Trip
5 Dave R
6 Flying Polack
7 Bags
8 Peter N.
9 Blue Hen
10 Holt
11 Tosh
12 Guru
13 Building 7
14 KrazyKoalaBears
15 JTSERB
16 filthy

Let's hit it.

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