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Subject: Rotohog 7/1-7/8 Thread
Posted by: Bandos
- [05292011] Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 13:33
Boating is sure taking a toll on my RV and while I am holding my own, I don't have the time to do in depth research. I am right at 7/G and 4.75/IP but still losing ground.
Question: Does anyone know what "premium prizes" means, when you upgrade? |
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150 | donk44
ID: 563322323 Mon, Jul 09, 2007, 12:50
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Re: 149
I thought prices for the Thursday players would go up more. Not only didn't they, but some of them are actually down today. Lots of big name players that are off Thursday are going up instead.
For instance, how can Papelbon be down today, when the Sox are one of the teams playing Thursday ?
But having said that, I still think that the top players with games on Thursday will have decent price gains over the next 3 days. Though from what I'm seeing today, a lot of the gains may not happen until Wednesday & Thursday.
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151 | mrbig
ID: 59522612 Mon, Jul 09, 2007, 13:40
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Probably lots of managers that haven't looked at Thursday's schedule quite yet. I already picked my relatively light hitting lineup, plus a bunch of starters going on friday.
The last 3 days of RH baseball have been miserable for me. I caught the all-star break at just the right time!
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152 | J Leader
ID: 049346417 Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 00:40
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I've had Hunter Pence for about a month now. Dropped him since he's off Thursday...now he's out. $13
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153 | J Leader
ID: 049346417 Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 15:45
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So, is the upgrade worth it? It does kinda suck not having it right now.
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154 | Alex
ID: 6551269 Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 16:10
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J - I agree...seems like it's going to be really hard to play RH without the upgrade. I'm going to sign up for it. I'm guessing serious players all sign up, and almost everyone else quits playing.
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155 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 16:47
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Woo hoo! I won another T shirt!
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156 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 3136114 Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 17:47
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Re: 154
I upgraded awhile back - what's the difference if you don't get the upgrade? Just wondering why people would quit if they didn't get the upgrade?
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157 | J Leader
ID: 049346417 Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 18:56
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You can't see anyone's price at all (and I'm assuming you wont see the points either) until the next day
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158 | donk44
ID: 42611019 Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 20:17
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I think a lot of people that are planning on playing RH football will do the special promotion upgrade for $11.95, which gives you the rest of the baseball season, plus the football season. That's what I did, even though the extra $6 for football is pretty much a donation to their site, since I haven't a clue about fantasy football. I believe if you only upgrade for football later after the promotion ends, it will cost you $9.95. So I can see a lot of those people paying the extra $2 to keep premium service for baseball.
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159 | hellotony Sustainer
ID: 110501511 Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 00:04
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It's surprising to have the position usages change during the AS break.
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160 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 01:29
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hellotony - I agree. Things change so much I never quite no where I am at, other than I am losing ground at an alarming rate relative to some people. Makes me wonder if I need to go in and double check all my scores to make sure all my points get added correctly. Right now I just assume that they are correcting things properly for everybody, but hard to say without double checking them.
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161 | Alex
ID: 6551269 Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 08:35
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I agree - they better have the position usages and scoring ironed out by September or its going to be a mess.
Also, I was thinking about the suspended Yankee game which will be finished in a few weeks. I've got Rivera. If I get to 1300 innings before that game is completed (not going to happen, but hypothetically), what happens? If Rivera pitches an inning and gets the save, do I get the points? Would they subtract the points from my last inning pitched prior to that?
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162 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 09:09
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They must be prorating the game usage targets based on calendar days, rather than actual scheduling. Not the smartest way to do it. It'll still work out in the end, of course.
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163 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 10:59
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Re: 162, that's what they are doing. Much easier to program I guess.
When I talked to the CEO a couple months ago, he told me the only difference at that time for the premium was that you could see it in real time and that if you hit update you would get the same thing. Obviously they figured out something since then that hurts those that don't pony up. My thought was that I have little if any chance to hit the top 10, so I wasn't going to upgrade unless my team went nuts all of a sudden. Now I'm thinking that if I want to see what's going on at all, I have to ante up.
I wasn't sure I was even going to play football, but if I am, I guess it makes sense to do that one too. I just see a total "Chained-to-the-computer" issue in football--esp with the shorter season. I've lost $200 in the past month (and falling) and there's no way I could sustain anything close to that in football.
I guess the biggest issue I have with the game is the wide-openess of it. There isn't a lot of strategy as far as money-limitations, zero trade-limiations, etc. You just get whoever you want and guess. The only limiation is the sold out feature but the handful of times that does come into play, often there are players out there who are doing as well or better than that particular player. I think I'd be doing much better if there wre more strategy and limitations involved, but who knows. Obviously I can't pick hitters so I may just not be very good!!!
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164 | J Leader
ID: 049346417 Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 18:42
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site down????
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165 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 19:04
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It's been working for me.
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166 | J Leader
ID: 049346417 Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 19:14
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well, sh!t....I haven't been able to get in over the last hour or so
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167 | J Leader
ID: 049346417 Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 19:26
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I just jumped onto my roommates computer and the site loaded just fine...whats up with that???
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168 | J Leader
ID: 049346417 Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 19:35
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Reboot, fixed it. Weird.
Wish I could bitch about wanting to login to bench halladay and guthrie. Not a good start(s)!
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169 | Peter N.
ID: 22573013 Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 23:09
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After giving it some thought, I decided I'm not going to pay $15 for what's looking like a bunch of rotohog t-shirts. They are nice though. ;-)
I certainly don't blame those near the top for upgrading and would probably do the same thing.
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170 | Firemansmith
ID: 29518300 Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 23:40
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tried to upgrade to premium and found no option for Canadians. I've won and received a shirt, can't figure out why they would have an option unless it's an issue with credit card payment?? sent email to RH but no response!! Any other northern cousins on here with the same issue ???
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171 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 10:33
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Reboot, fixed it. Weird.
Actually the same thing happened to me last night. Was working fine and then all of a sudden couldn't access it anymore. Tried deleting temporary pages and that didn't work, but a reboot did.
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172 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 21:18
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Nothing quite like out-thinking yourself. Should have had a great pitching day, but noooo.
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173 | Species
ID: 86221320 Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 21:22
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Any former baseball card collectors should Click here for a humorous look at old 80's cards.
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174 | Peter N.
ID: 22573013 Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 21:28
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Just Bedard here. I thought about double-dipping with Ray, but that hasn't worked for me in a long time so shied against it.
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175 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921 Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 22:43
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I'm confused. Were Weaver and Sheets pitching today or not? Rotohog and Rototimes both had them going today. Am I dumb?
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176 | donk44
ID: 42611019 Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 22:49
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Re: 175
TJ - I wasn't sure who was starting in 2 or 3 games either. looked at 4 different sources, and 2 of them had weaver & 2 had escobar.
I think it's going to be like this for the next 3 or 4 days as teams adjust their rotations after the all star break.
sure would be nice if there was one definitive source out there that was up-to-date/accurate.
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177 | hellotony Sustainer
ID: 110501511 Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 23:32
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I find the best sources for probables to be the gambling sites.
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178 | Species
ID: 456111323 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 00:11
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I think this is my first day over 300.
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179 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 01:51
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Very nice Species. I should have been there with you but passed on my original plan of both Z and Santana. Had them both on my roster and wound up going with Escobar and Gregg. That didn't work out so well. Didn't really consider Bedard since he had just had the monster game before, but that would have been good too.
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180 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 12:27
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Does anyone know what time RH updates their standings? I know they do the pts fairly early on in the overnight but when does the position usage genearlly get updated?
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181 | mrbig
ID: 6336160 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 12:43
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Wow, what an utterly miserable few days. I thought I would have internet access while out of town wed, thurs, & fri, but didn't. Yesterday I had Utley, Braun, Santana, Bedard, and Zambrano on my bench.
Plus now I'm way behind in games played since my roster was mostly bare on Thursday & Friday. Yuck. This might push me far enough out of it to give up!
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182 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 13:34
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GP and IP benchmarks are very misleading now.
For hitters, being "on pace" is currently 93 games. However, it looks like most teams have played about 89 games to date. So if a hitter plays every remaining game, you would get about 73 more games out of him. If you add 73 to 93, you end up with only 166 GP, 4 over the limit.
Another way to look at it is that there are 79 calendar days remaining in the season. Ignoring doubleheaders, if you fill a hitter slot every day, you can get all 162 GP as long as you have at least 83 GP to date, with would be currently listed as -10 for that slot.
So teams that are currently listed as being in the range of -36 to -50 (for hitters) are really pretty much on pace. And teams that are at -100 or more can still fill up the GP.
The situation is similar for pitchers. The reported IP for being on pace is 738, but based on the actual schedule, the correct number should be more like 714. And, of course, for pitchers it's even easier to make up shortfalls, although you obviously have to sacrifice some selectivity.
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183 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 13:41
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In other words, mrbig, in spite of what RotoHog is reporting for you (-26/-26), your hitting is really slightly ahead of pace, and your pitching is about right on pace. So while I understand your disappointment about the last few days, your pacing is certainly not a problem.
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184 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 17:03
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Are RH's numbers for PPG accurate at all? I don't know my numbers but what they're listing seems WAY higher than what ppl have talked about on this board.
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185 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 17:12
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They seem reasonably accurate - usually within a few hundredths of what I have.
My stats, sorted by points/game for the full year (for hitters)
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186 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 18:23
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I think he's talking about the points per position as shown under the 'my market analysis". Maybe that is what Guru is referring to as well, but I agree that they seem very high. Those averages for the top 100 are about 10pts/position which would seem pretty high.
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187 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 18:41
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No, I was simply looking at the individual player averages that appear on each player page.
I don't see anything called "my market analysis". Where is that found?
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188 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 19:05
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If you click on your login name in the upper right corner (not your team name) it takes you there.
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189 | Species
ID: 31681418 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 19:08
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Did anyone else have a complete clusterfxxx at the 4:05 freeze? I sold F-Cord AFTER guys like Victor and Fielder but he doesn't show up on my roster!
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190 | Species
ID: 43691418 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 19:09
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.......and I never sold Papelbon and he disappeared!
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191 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 19:17
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[186-188] - those numbers are clearly bogus.
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192 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 19:19
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I didn't try to sell anyone, but no one disappeared from my team. What time does your transaction page show you selling Cordero? Any sign of Papelbon being sold? Hopefully it's just a glitch.
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193 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 3136114 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 21:22
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Haven't tried to sell anyone Today but my team looks fine. I'm going to make at least one move later so hopefully no roster problems
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194 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 21:38
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I wish I could undo some moves and get Nathan and Gregg back on my team. I've really got the knack. I'm sure I must have made a few good moves along the way, but I sure don't remember them.
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195 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 22:54
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Curtis Granderson is Out. What's up with that?
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196 | Pops
ID: 5923858 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 23:20
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Re 190:
Looks like it worked out for the best..or at least not for the worst.
I wish Hamels and Vasquez would have disappeared from my roster!
Well, them and my 5 negative hitters.
Kevin Gregg, who I don't have, has outscored my entire offense today. Bogus.
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197 | mrbig
ID: 6336160 Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 23:40
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Guru re: 183,
Thanks, but it still doesn't feel good leaving 210 points or so (at 10 pt/ip) on your bench, plus two 30+ pt hitters. Sabathia's results today didn't exactly give me a warm fuzzy feeling either.
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198 | Species
ID: 12601423 Sun, Jul 15, 2007, 00:00
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Thanks a lot, Heath Bell - jackass
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199 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921 Sun, Jul 15, 2007, 13:13
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I know I asked before, but still wondering..
Does anyone know what time RH updates their standings? I know they do the pts fairly early on in the overnight but when does the position usage genearlly get updated?
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