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0 Subject: Gurupie 20 2007 Regular Season Discussion III

Posted by: Ref
- Donor [539581218] Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 21:16

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60Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 22:18
Mike Lamb. Pinch-hit grand slam.

O ye of little faith.
61Twarpy
      ID: 53443916
      Fri, Aug 03, 2007, 04:04
Don't forget Morneau who I once owned...Species do I get an advance on our bet, since Im kicking your ass so hard...even Bay is being a good Canadian and helping me out.
62Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 03, 2007, 11:35
Props dude.....you had the proper balance of hitting and pitching to win this year. Ref had too many pitchers and not enough thump, while my young aces flopped and my early picks flopped even worse. After Clemens' debacle yesterday I would consider myself in full "seller" mode....if there was anyone to sell TO!

To get paid on that bet, you have to get your ass to Phoenix in March. We can tweak the calendar to get some weekend on there if it will help, but I will be going to that hockey game on Tuesday!
63Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 03, 2007, 11:41
My hitters have actually done better lately, but still are not living up to their potential. Still, it would take a lot to overcome that huge deficit. It's definitely Twarpy's to lose.
64StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 00:42
I have called up Billy Butler for the first time.
65GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 23:08
Could a Commissioner call up Justin Upton for me for the first time.
I dropped Fontenot to make room.

Thanks,
Cliff
66StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 23:14
Got it Cliff.
67Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 14:58
I apologize, I went illegal today as I didn't realize the Pena/Dontrelle trade processed this morning. I hate that it locks everybody in for the entire freaking day... but this is nothing new so I digress.
68Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 15:01
GO, Cards and I have been asking for awhile now for them to switch that.

Looks like your 1b isn't playing today anyhow.
69Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 15:08
Thats true, so at least I didn't waste a game or anything.

This Botts guy looks like he has some potential. I hope he gets OF eligibility sooner than later. Need 8 more by next season!
70Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 18:15
Looking back, I am VERY dissatisfied with my draft.

Round 1 - Eric Chavez - bad back. Maybe done for the year
Round 2 - Marcus Giles - case of suckiness & benched
Round 3 - Dan Wheeler - now a set-up guy for Al freakin' Reyes on a team that rarely wins.
Round 4 - Craig Monroe - I'm just glad I found someone to trade him to. He killed me last season, and I'm still bitter.
Round 5 - none
Round 6 - Gerald Laird - Boo
Round 7 - none
Round 8 - Zach Duke - I think David Duke might pitch better.

It's amazing that I'm in 12th place, and was even in 8th (if for only one day) a couple weeks ago.
71Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 11:18
Cards, remember when you acquired Tulowitzki for a 2nd rounder and got a "you must be related" comment? yeah... and yet Boof Bonser didn't raise an eyebrow for the same (or more?)... who's laughing now!? :)
72Perm Dude
      ID: 337121310
      Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 11:28
Yeah, Bonser really dropped off. He was actually OK through the beginning of June, and at this point I feel like I have to give him more rope just because I paid so much for him. I'm probably not alone in that quirk!

Still, I wasn't looking for a lot of wins, but a decent WHIP & K's after building on a very good rookie year.

Blah!
73Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 11:36
I was high on Bonser too in my other league. Not sure what the heck happened. He could still come around, but every time I see him he is giving up a long ball. You can sometimes get away with that when you are a guy like Schilling and your WHIP is low and the HR's are solo, but I don't think he's got that under control yet.
74Code Cracker
      ID: 300152013
      Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 18:22
I think Bonser is just going through a rough period.

I did like his comments after his loss to mighty Kansas City:

"I've just go to do my job and not worry about what we're doing with the bats," Bonser said.

Maybe if he instead worried about what the other team was doing with their bats he might be more effective.

That said, I could offer a good young player like Kip Wells or Nate Robertson for him, :-p
75Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 15:44
well this is no good for several of us...
August 15th, 2007
This year, under a new baseball rule, draft picks have until Wednesday at midnight ET to agree on deals. After that, they are not eligible to sign.

Among the first-round picks who have yet to sign are No. 1 overall selection David Price, a left-handed pitcher taken by the Devil Rays. Infielder Mike Moustakas, the No. 2 overall choice by the Royals, and infielder Josh Vitters, taken No. 3 overall by the Cubs, also are unsigned. Switch-hitting catcher Matt Wieters, the No. 5 overall pick by the Orioles, also hasn't signed.

Left-hander Daniel Moskos, the No. 4 overall pick by the Pirates, is the highest draft selection to sign so far. Moskos was given a $2,475,000 signing bonus by Pittsburgh.

In contrast, the Tigers signed their top pick, 6-foot-5 right-hander Rick Porcello (selected 27th overall), to a four-year, $7.28 million deal Tuesday.
76Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 17:49
Posturing. If Det can sign Porcello, the other should be comparitively easy. If tehy all aren't signed, someone is making a big mistake--perhaps the player, but who knows.

I really like these deep Gurupie leagues if nothing else that it's hard to ever be comfortable. Well, Twarpy might be pretty cozy up there right now. Three of my top pitchers all went yesterday and got bombed--costing me many points. I lost 6 points in ERA/WHIP (would have been more without the RPs) and I had to bench two other RPs to get them in there and cost me more era/whip and a save. Combined with the losses of Ws, that was a pretty expensive endeavor.

It's been well-documented how Cards gained 11 points on me in the pentultimate day in season one to go up by a point. These huge swings can vault you or throw you in the tank big time--esp. late in the year when recovery time is short. As always, it's going to be a wild finish--well at least for the also-rans.
77StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 18:00
The Rays have reportedly signed first overall pick David Price to a six-year contract worth $8.5 million.

The value of the deal should increase, depending on when Price reaches the majors. It's nice to see the Rays step up to the plate and get a deal done. Now let's just see if the Royals and Orioles do the same.
Source: Tampa Tribune
78Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 09:51
hey guys... thanks for not waiting too long.
Good lord. I think everyone signed at least

Kansas City Royals: The Royals agreed to a contract with Mike Moustakas, the No. 2 overall pick in this year's draft, 11 minutes before the midnight deadline Wednesday.
Moustakas gets a $4 million signing bonus.
A Royals spokesman told The Associated Press that agent Scott Boras called general manager Dayton Moore at 11:49 p.m. EDT to say the deal


Chicago Cubs: A few minutes before midnight on Wednesday night, Cubs announcers said during their telecast that the team had signed Josh Vitters, the third overall pick in June's draft.
He will receive a signing bonus worth approximately $3.2 million.


Baltimore Orioles: The Orioles and first-round draft pick Matt Wieters agreed to a contract Wednesday night with a $6 million signing bonus.

Arizona Diamondbacks: The Diamondbacks have agreed to terms with Jarrod Parker, their top selection in this June's draft.

San Francisco Giants: The Giants agreed to deals with both of their first-round picks before Wednesday's deadline, locking up 10th overall selection Madison Bumgarner and 29th pick Wendell Fairley.

Seattle Mariners: The Mariners have agreed to terms with Philippe Aumont, their top selection in this year's draft.

New York Yankees: After an afternoon impasse in negotiations with first round pick Andrew Brackman, the Yankees agreed to a major league contract with the 6-foot-10 pitcher.

Florida Marlins: The Marlins agreed to terms with first-round draft pick Matt Dominguez hours before the deadline.
Dominguez, a third baseman from Chatsworth High School near Los Angeles, was the 12th overall choice in the June draft. He gets a $1.8 million signing bonus.
79beastiemiked
      ID: 65112917
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 22:36
Got the plaque for hoops and baseball. Will take some pics and send to Ref so he can get them up on the website.
80StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 23:30
Glad you got it bmd. Time was running out for us to get together so I thought I better go ahead and just mail it to you. Would still like to get together for a game although tickets are pretty hard to find now except on stub hub or something.
81Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 15:38
bmd, cool. I think the baseball one is already up. Just need the hoops one.
82Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 13:07
Just a note that my lineup is incomplete today because I was interrupted in the midst of a transaction. I was moving Beltran (not playing) out in favour of Willingham but got distracted before I could finish.

Toral
83StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 13:25
Toral - Actually your lineup for today is valid since the lineups are frozen 30 minutes prior to the game. You moved Beltran out at 1:05 which was past the freeze, so you do not have an incomplete lineup for today, unless I am missing something.
84Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 14:00
Ah! OK. I was sure that I was making changes for 08/20 when I started making them. When I came back I saw that the date had changed to 8/21. I must have changed Beltran's position before but not hit the set lineups button till after. My guess is that the Florida game started at 1:05?
85StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 15:36
correct
86Slackjawed Yokel
      Leader
      ID: 052347519
      Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 21:31
you guys can take Lincecum off of my prospect list - I gambled and lost - he is well above the limits.
87Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 01:53
done.
88Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 12:51
Ref/StL Cards - my prospect Ian Kennedy is getting called up. I successfully removed the * next to his name on my prospect roster, but I could not 'edit values' to give him a salary. I presume this is because he is still on waivers?!?
89Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 22:24
Species, you need more practice adding players. You've forgotten how to do it. If you can jump on AIM tonight we will talk you through it again.
90Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 02:19
I went ahead and added a salary to him for you.
91Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 19:07
Can a Commish please add back a $1 salary to Andrew Miller, and send him back to the minors. He has career 74.1 IP, and 21 GP. Thanks.

I wish I had done this when he went on the DL, instead of waiting until now.
92Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 19:30
Done.
93 Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 12:03
Trade Deadline tonight
I am looking to get something done and will be here all day to negotiate. What do you like? shoot me an email... need a good young bat for the stretch run and potential keeper? how about Wily Mo or Botts? need some steals? Lugo or Crisp available. I'd package Wells, Dontrelle... a good young arm on a winning team like Joe Saunders... high draft picks, prospect picks... looking for a high level SP or OF.
94Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 12:27
LOL, GO!

Glad you reminded me as I had forgotten and I'm sure others did too. This has been our least trade-active year ever and that's because Twarpy ran off and hid and left the rest of the league around to play for 2nd.
95blackjackis21
      ID: 227131712
      Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 14:06
Ooh - I'll play. I have the following guys I'd like to keep for next year. In no particular order, but in (im)proper Species marketing fashion:

SP
Justin Verlander - 24 yr. old on pace for 17 W's, 3.75, 1.24 and 179 K's.

Matt Cain - 23 yr. old on pace for 8 W's, 3.53, 1.29, 165 K's.

Yovani Gallardo - 21 yr. old, crappy stats. Probably cheapest of anyone on my list, but good young talent.

Aaron Harang - 31 yr. old, on pace 17 W's, 3.50, 1.11, 211 K's.

RP
Mariano Rivera - old, Mariano Rivera.

Manual Corpas - 25 yr. old, 11 for 11 in save opp's. 2.09 ERA, 1.13 WHIP. Likely closer next yr. for Rockies?

OF
Gary Sheffield - old, on DL, but so far, 430 AB, 24HR, 20 SB, .383 OBP.

Eric Byrnes - 31 yr. old, on pace for 22 HR, 45 SB, .361 OBP

Nick Markakis - 24 yr. old, on pace for 18 HR, 19 SB, .356 OBP

2B
Dan Uggla - 27 yr. old, on pace for 32 HR, .324 OBP.

SS
Michael Young - 31 yr. old, crappy year but still a keeper SS.

3B
Josh Fields - 25 yr. old. 17HR's in 288 AB's. OBP stinks, but should play every day and be 3B/OF eligible next year.

Probably too expensive, but Joba Chamberlain could also be in the mix.

3 of these guys will have to go, so if any two or three of them are better than somebody's bottom two or three suspected keepers, let me know if you're interested. I supposed I'd be looking for a slugger with good OBP in return, depending on who was involved. As of today, I drop Gallardo, Fields, and Byrnes? I'm sure it's unlikely something gets done today, so I'll probably post something similar next Spring - I wish there was a race left this year! Congrats Twarpy.

96Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:24
Very disappointed with the league and the lack of activity. Got a few constructive responses where we just weren't a match and thats fine... but I threw out at least a half dozen offers that weren't even looked at.

And I am not making this about me - NOBODY in the entire league makes a trade before the trade deadline? What, nobody wants to improve their team? Thats incredible.
97Perm Dude
      ID: 5381919
      Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:27
Frankly, I had thought the trade deadline passed already--all my other leagues had the trade deadline of weeks ago. I can't speak for anyone else, but I stopped thinking about trades already!

And there was no way I'd try to throw together a trade offer on the last day, while doing football research.

Twarpy's huge lead probably has a little bit of a dampening effect as well.
98R9
      ID: 21721142
      Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 17:16
I had no interest in improving my team for this year. As far as next year, I have way too many question marks with my keepers that will be resolved in the off-season. For example, will Gagne or Soriano be full-time closers? Having zero or two keeper-worthy closers makes a huge difference when forming my keeper list. How can I make a deal that will focus on improving my keepers when I don't know who I'm keeping yet?

Short of trading some marginal players for picks (which nobody had any interest in doing) I planned on being very quiet at the deadline. I doubt I was alone. It was a strategic choice, not a lack of effort or league interest.
99Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 19:26
Twarpy is so far ahead. I figured that none of the managers battling for 2nd or 3rd would be interested in mortgaging the future, so I didn't even take the time to look at their teams.

100Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 12:59
Twarpy ruining all the fun!
101Slackjawed Yokel
      Leader
      ID: 052347519
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 22:56
Commishes - I'd like to call up Ellsbury and waive Shawn Green.

Thanks in advance.
102StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 23:47
Done.
103R9
      ID: 21721142
      Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 00:28
How 'bout that Rick Ankiel? Pretty sick how a guy I picked up on a lark is garnering keeper attention just one month later...
104Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 09:49
Cardinals outfielder Rick Ankiel reportedly received shipments of human growth hormone (HGH) in 2004 from a Florida pharmacy that was part of a national illegal drug-distribution operation. Ankiel, a former pitcher who returned to the majors this year after quitting baseball because of control problems, received the shipments of HGH before Major League Baseball officially banned it in 2005. MLB does not test for HGH, but a player who is known to have used or possessed HGH since then could receive a 50-game suspension.
105Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 09:49
Well that puts a damper on things!
106R9
      ID: 21721142
      Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 20:36
LOL so sick. What a horrible year for my players. Every piece of good news is countered by something 5x worse...
107Kevin
      ID: 11726149
      Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 21:01
I'm in a league with weekly rosters, so 2-starts is obviously huge. So i started Esteban Loaiza who pitched on monday but for some reason hes not pitching saturday or sunday even though the dodgers also had a thursday game. Are certain pitchers getting bumped up in the rotation?
109StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Sep 24, 2007, 11:08
Billy Butler has gone over the threshold limits for a prospect while on my active roster and can no longer be sent back down so he is no longer a prospect. I have removed him from the prospect list.
110Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 12:00
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