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0 Subject: Gurupie 20 2007 Regular Season Discussion IV

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- Donor [539581218] Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 12:00

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53Perm Dude
      ID: 37117129
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 18:23
I don't think I need be brought up in two threads in a row about trading in this league. I'm like the universal donor of trading: Some trades are amazingly brilliant, some trades are boneheaded.
54Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 19:36
There are rumors on the internets that Ichiro Suzuki might be available in trade this season.

There is no reason to believe that you will not be getting a .340+ avg., 110+ runs, 40+ SBs.

We would be seeking youth and/or picks. Seeing that at least 2, if not all 3 of my prospects should still be minor leaguers by the ASB/prospect draft ... prospects received must have a good shot of being a major-leaguer by the ASB.
55Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 23:36
I don't think the Hanley Ramirez shot was warranted at all. I got him with the last pick in the first round. Every single team had the chance to get him before me. Then when I did get him, I was chastised so hard by some that I publicly posted for feedback if I had reached for him. I remember Twarpy and Pete being two of the most vocal though there were at least two more basically saying I screwed the pooch by getting him at 1.20--even though I didn't have a SS at all.

PS I got some apologies later! ;)
56Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:07
Ref - shot? What shot?

Okay I was teasing PD a little about making a wrong choice (especially after Hanley's trade to FLA, all but handing him a starting gig)....but my point was more in the amount of value I gave being fair return for what I received as a 'comeback' to Twarpy barking about all of his satisfied trading partners.
57Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:48
I didn't mean shot in a bad way. I know you're teasing him, just saying that even after he was traded every single team had a chance to get him. So calling him out (in a teasing manner) loses a little luster when every single team had the opportunity to get him if they wanted. I suspect that he may have fallen a lot farther had I not nabbed him.
58Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 01:31
Wow does anyone know a good slander/libel lawyer, good old Species always resorting to smear tactics. PD took a shot with Barmes it didnt work out and you blame me for him not keeping a rookie that wasnt on many peoples radars including yours (you had two chances to draft this sure shot)

PD does your permissions company grant me the right to kick Species ass, and copyright the slogan "Feces Young Lions, theyre still full of shit":)
59Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 10:27
Wasn't Barmes rookie of the year too? or should have been before the deer meat incident?
60Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 11:30
uhm, Twarpy there's something on that hat on your new logo.
61Perm Dude
      ID: 37117129
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 11:35
Yeah, I thought a young starting Colorado shortstop was going to really set me up. Freakin' deer!
62Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 14:05
LOL.......finally got around to seeing Twerpy's new logo. Creativity points = 0.5 A young lion eating a still-live carcass is much more manly.

I don't care if I finish 5th - as long as I kick your young, obnoxious ass all the way into French Canada!
63Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 15:06
Least you insulted R9 and Eric Gagne with your last post. You crack me up buddy, your logo uses metaphors while mine speaks the truth;)
64Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 22:32
Moi?

No insult at all in that post....merely referring to a geographical region.
65Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 13:45
Blue Hen has officially taken over Trip's team.

Welcome BH!
66blue hen
      ID: 16322314
      Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 13:47
Good to be here. You will all lose.
67GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 13:54
Hey BH,
Welcome to the Zoo.
Lots of cheap pitchers Available :)

Ugh, what a nitemare last year was.
Especially since I thought I was going to improve and went the other way.

Cliff
68Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 14:13
Wow bh in the league, whoever has Phillies, Mark Prior or anyone else he drafts every year better strike while the iron is hot. Welcome buddy, I look forward to whooping your ass in another league.
69Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 16:07
Welcome blue hen!

Item #1 on your agenda --- find a new logo for your team. Trip's kid is cute and all, but it just doesn't fit! lol

He has some really nice young parts (Martin, Braun, Kemp) to build off of.
70Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 16:09
LOL - just checked....Prior is NOT owned in the league! THAT was an oversight!
71blue hen
      ID: 16322314
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 16:13
Oh yes. He is going to be my first pick in the draft.

By the way, I'd like to make some moves. Ryan Braun and Jose Tabata are the only players who are off-limits.
72Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 17:14
So much debate over the Lastings Millidge for Mark Prior trade I made when I took over my squad two years ago... and now...
73GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 21:10
Ya never know.
Anything can and does appear to happen.

But, always ways to get better.

Cliff
74R9
      ID: 541147420
      Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 21:35
Do we start earlier every year? Buncha degen baseball addicts. :p

I've already got two teams interested in Santana, and I think this year I'm going to have to trade him. I'm probably ok at pitcher even without him, so I'd be looking for keeper-quality hitters in return. Would probably take 3, or 2 of really high quality. I could probably also take a pitcher, so long as I find someone to flip a P for a H first.

Or I could just trade him for Prior, whoever has him.
75beastiemiked
      ID: 65112917
      Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 17:32
bh,
JD Drew can be had for a case of batteries.
76GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 14:23
All,
I'm not ignoring the emails I've had on trade offers.
Just real life getting in the way.

Was in the emergency room Sunday nite and then transferred to my hospital.

My heart went goofy again.
Everything looks okay now, but taking a couple of days from work to make sure I feel okay before going back to work.

Will get to everybody in a few days.

Cliff
77Code Cracker
      ID: 300152013
      Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 18:58
Hang in there Cliff. Thinking about you.
78Perm Dude
      ID: 3201398
      Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 19:40
And they say Cliff is heartless in fantasy sports!

Hope you're doing better, Cliff.

Fred
79Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 16:03
Get Well Cliff!!!

I just got an email from CBS. They have opened up the season for 2008. Haven't read any new changes but am hopeful they finally coded in the taxi squad we have asked for since the inception of prospects. They did that in football this year so I'm going to go look now. We have to renew the season by Feb 7th to save $20 this year. That seems really early.

Also, it is my understanding that the treasury for this league will be transferred from Cards to Guru.
80Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 16:22
I can't find what they added this year.
81Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 16:28
I'm looking at the setup and there is a Minors box this year that you can elect to not count against your positional setup. We will have to investigate if that will work for us or not. A lot to look at even if it works such as who is eligible and if you can move players up and down willy-nilly, etc.
82Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 16:31
About the only time Species will ever be listed ahead of me in the standings is now through March, enjoy it buddy.
83Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 17:40
Cliff - get well buddy. All the best for a speedy recovery.

On to business for 2008.....I'm getting an itchy trigger finger. I think in the past I have probably been too rigid in even considering trading some of my core players.....so why not just throw nearly everybody onto the table just in case that perfect fit is out there.

Victor Martinez - The best catcher in the game and only just turned 29 in December.
Mark Teixeira - Perhaps not the 140+ RBI monster I wanted, but still a .380+ OBP, 35 HR, 110+ RBI 1b and only 27 years old. Easily a top 5 first baseman.
Rickie Weeks - A monster 2nd half has propelled him from prospect to stud ready to burst out in 2008. Sportsline projects him for a .380 OBP, 18 HR and 28 steals from the Fantasy-poor 2b position.
Khalil Greene - Clubbed 27 HR and drove in 97 to go with 89 runs scored. Sportsline projects a 30-HR, 100 RBI season from this 28 year old.
Jason Bay - No BS - his 2007 season was an injury-filled fluke. There is nothing on his Major League resume that would lead anyone reasonable to believe he won't return to his .385+ OBP, 30 HR, 100 rbi and 100 run ways now that he is healthy. He just turned 29 at the end of last season.
Jason Giambi - He's still hitting in one of the best lineups in baseball and is a huge OBP horse. He appears ready to start the year healthy and with 450 AB's is a lock for 30 HR. He does have first base eligibility.

Felix Hernandez - One could look at his last 2 years with disappointment given the hype, but when you consider he is not entering his 3rd full season and turns only 22 years old on April 8th, it's an amazing feat.
Scott Kazmir - Not even 24 years old yet, Kazmir had a big second half for the up-and-coming young Rays. He lead the AL in strikeouts and was only 1 strikeout behind Peavy for the major league lead. Only an improvement in command is holding him back from top 5 ace consideration.
Huston Street - 24 years old. Lifetime stats include a K/9 over 9, a 2.57 ERA and a 1.02 WHIP. What's not to like?
Jason Isringhausen - Izzy proved he can still get it done last year with a rock solid 32 save, 2.49 ERA, 1.075 WHIP year.
Kevin Gregg - saved 32 games last year and you could do a lot worse for your 2nd closer.

Prospects
Nick Adenhart - LAA's best pitching prospect. Baseball America's #34 prospect in 2007.
Ian Kennedy - NYY do not want to give him up in the Santana deal for good reason. 12-3, 1.91 ERA, 10.03 K/9, 0.96 WHIP in 3 minor league stops last year. On top of that he made 3 starts for New York and posted a 1.89 ERA, 1.16 WHIP and had a fantastic BAA of .191.
Jeff Clement - This SEA prospect is considered the most advanced catching prospect in the game. Hit AAA very well at a .370/.497/.867 (obp/slg/ops) clip, with 20 HR and 80 RBI in 125 games. Rumored to be in trade talks so SEA can acquire Erik Bedard.

Probably the thing I am missing the most, outside of better draft picks, is a bona fide #1 ace type pitcher. While I am completely convinced of Felix and Kazmir's futures, I want to contend in 2008 and might consider trading for that top flight stud SP.

Pitchers and catchers report in about 6 weeks! It's never too early!
84Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 01:49
lol first you harp on me for listing my whole team, and now you do the same. I think you should put that ad in French if you want a certain 'bona fide #1 ace pitcher' :)
85Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 02:00
I'm looking for a power hitter--preferably at 3B. Have a ton of nice pitchers I can sacrifice.
86Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 03:37
Well, I screwed up. I went to pay the $129.95 for another CBS league that I am in (and Commish) using a league member's credit card information that was already in the system from last season.

The problem ... I had actually in our league at the time! So now this league (G20) has been paid for, and my other league still needs renewal.

I wrote the cbs help desk asking if the payment can be transferred, but I don't know how soon (or if) they will answer. I cannot find any sort of customer service phone number.

If cbs is unable to transfer payment, what would be the best way to pay for my other league by the earlybird deadline?


87Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 11:49
Thanks for the Donation Tosh!!! ;)

There is a phone number somewhere, but not sure where. RFS and I called them several years ago, but when we tried to contact them a year or two ago we went through CBS and called somewhere in Florida but I never got someone live with CBS Sportsline (Now just CBSSports.com). I would go to the site and ask them. Problem is that they usually only allow commishs to ask them questions. If that's an issue, I'll give you commish privs. If they can't fix it, then perhaps we can get you a paypal pmt or another form. Cards hasn't transferred the money and records to Guru yet. He's been working on football payouts and the plaques intermixed with business of work and the holidays.
88Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 12:01
Twarpy 84 - lol dude you take my comments out of context more than the Philadelphia media mistook T.O.'s commentary over those years! Okay bad example, but I didn't chide you for putting most of your team out there, I chided you for, IMO, 'false advertising' because I felt that there was very little chance of you trading a few of your top tier studs. That's all I said.

Notice Alex Rodriguez wasn't listed?
89StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 12:04
Tosh, this happened before with Promize and he got it changed fine. Try this:

CBS Sports.com maintains a general fantasy sports payment and password-assistance phone number. If you are having trouble with your logging into the site, or are experiencing difficulty in paying for a product, you may acquire assistance by calling:

1-877-266-6474 (toll-free 8:00 AM ET to 8:00 PM ET. Mon-Fri)

Please be aware, the representatives that respond via this phone number can only provide assistance with product access or payment issues.
90Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 12:12
Re: 88

I noticed it, hence post 85. ;)

Cards, I do remember that. Yeah he got it changed rather quickly. An email to promize would be in order. I remember him ccing his response from CBS.
92Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 13:03
I think I have R9's 3rd round pick via a trade during last years draft. Billinglsey was involved I believe.
93Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 13:12
These managers have had their 2008 Supplemental Draft selections altered via trades

8-27-06 darkside gets Species' 1st and 3rd rounder for his 4th round pick (Aramis/izzy for Hughes/Zumaya/Lester/Teahen)
3-2 Species gets Pete's' 2nd rounder (07 predraft 2nd round exchange)
3-14 GO gets R9's 3rd rounder (Patterson for Billingsly+07 pick)
3-15 Darkside gets Pete's' 2nd rounder via Species (Giambi)
3-25 Code gets GL's 2008 12th rounder ( 2007 13.09)
4-12 Ref gets GO's' 2nd rounder for his 14th (Lee/Wells)
5-17 Tosh gets Cards' 2nd rounder (Accardo)
5-29 Toral gets Twarpy's 1st and 5th rounders for his 8th and 14th picks (Penny)
7-22 GO gets BJ21's 5th round pick in exchange for hiss 10th round pick (Verlander/Sizemore)
8-2 Guru gets BJ21's 3rd and 7th rounders for his 13th and 14th (Corpas)
94Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 13:14
Last year was he least amount of trading ever in this league. Dang Twarpy!
95Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 13:24
92 - Thanks GO....I missed that and have updated my spreadsheet. I deleted my post because it was f-ing up the thread. I hate not being more knowledgable in excel.
96Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 13:52
We will start a preseason thread soon. Have less than 4 weeks to renew the site (or get tosh his money so he can renew his own site lol!!!). Hopefully we can get the plaques done soon so we can give the winners their due with pictures of their new plaque.

We've already added Blue Hen. Also have three very interested managers from G24 if we have any openings so even if someone else can't return, we will be able to fill that slot quickly.

Will start a preseason thread when we send out re-invites--probably within the next week or two. I haven't heard of any new rules suggestions yet, but that would be the time to do that.
97Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 14:13
Testing the minors plyaer issue...

As a commish I can exceed roster limits for other teams, but I cannot violate a rule for my own team. This is really good for testing issues like roster limits. The Minors feature allows you to have say an extra shortstop on your roster if your league limits those, but it DOES count against total roster limit still. Obviously this is no help to us and we can not use it. We'd never be able to add players to our teams if we had a prospect as we'd always be over roster limits.
98Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 15:11
I (really the friendly customer service guy) was able to get everything fixed. We owe CBS $129.95 again.

For future reference, and easier remembering, the number is 877-commish.

Ref ~ Have you clicked the 'Minor league players do not count against positional roster limits' box under 'league rules -> roster limits'?

Minor leaguers do not count against our active rosters in my other league. We have 18 active, 6 reserve, 0-10 injured, and 0-10 minors players on each roster. Any time a minors player is activated, another player must be waived.
99Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 15:58
Tosh I tried it and I couldn't go over 23even with Minors players marked. Yes I had clicked the Minors box. I'll give you commish privs here too and you can test it as well.
101Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 16:43
Ref ~ Shoot me an email at your convenience about what you are trying to do exactly. Just so that I am clear. I'll have time this evening to poke around and see if I can find something different.

I have a few different ideas, but want to know what I'm trying to fix first.
102R9
      ID: 541147420
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 23:12
I'm going to be making a decision on Santana soon, so if anyone wants to make an offer and hasn't yet done so now would be a good time.

I also have a few guys I won't be keeping, but who could be decent 8th/9th keepers on other teams:

Delgado
Dye
Ankiel

All have potential for 30 HR, with some potential baggage or I'd be keeping them myself. :)
103R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 20:58
Add Curt Schilling to the available list.
104Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jan 18, 2008, 15:52
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