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Subject: Barry Bonds conspiracy theory
Posted by: loki
- SuperDude [4211201420] Wed, Mar 19, 2008, 22:29
Article from the NY Times. link |
| 1 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Wed, Mar 19, 2008, 22:59
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I guess the idea that Bonds will probably demand/command $15mil + to play and then only get 1/4 to 1/2 the season in before going to his trial has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with teams not wanting to sign him.
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| 2 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Mar 20, 2008, 02:54
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Or his great locker room presence.
Maybe by July for an AL team with the 'right' injuries and a chance to make the playoffs.
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| 3 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Mar 20, 2008, 05:50
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If he is healthy and a team needs the bat...okay, just trying to add something other than BUTT to get rid of the spam posts I am deleting.
:)
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| 4 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Thu, Mar 20, 2008, 13:18
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I am not sure why any team would want Bonds at the price he wants...he really is only a DH these days, bad locker room presence, poor addition from a PR perspective.
"Bonds could make a potent designated hitter for an American League team. He has 762 homers -- seven more than Hank Aaron's previous mark -- and would be a box-office draw for a team with slow ticket sales" espn link
Personally I could see him having the oppositive effect...I really do not think fans like him or have much respect for him. I certainly would not be buying more tickets to see him play. I would think a majority of fans would not want him on their team.
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| 5 | Perm Dude
ID: 1927207
Thu, Mar 20, 2008, 13:36
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Collusion is when teams get together and agree to collectively do a certain action (or in this case, inaction). But when everyone happens to agree with something (such as "water is wet" or "Bonds is poison") there is no collusion.
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| 6 | holt
ID: 341542412
Thu, Mar 20, 2008, 23:03
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with all the issues surrounding Bonds the only contract that would make sense to me would be one loaded with incentives. no way would I offer him a flat 10 million.
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| 7 | loki
ID: 4558720
Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 22:49
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News reports have AZ and Boston having "internal talks" about the possibility of signing Bonds.
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| 8 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 12:53
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He's not getting any offers. I'm sure he'd be down for an incentive laden contract but 0 teams have offered him anything. The guy can still hit(hmm, .480 OBP I think a lot of teams could use that) and I'm guessing he's a lot more humble and driven than he was 1-2 years ago. It's dumb that some teams lacking a DH or outfielder would pass him up.
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| 9 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 13:08
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He is a PR nightmare that would change the focus from the team to him. Pretty distracting. Also with his criminal issues (albeit delayed) ahead of him--is it worth all the energy it would take to bring him in (along with his demands to be treated preferentially i.e the lazy boy chair in front of his locker)? Apparently the answer thus far has been a resounding NO.
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| 10 | Razor
ID: 545172413
Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 14:57
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What happens if the Barry Bonds experiment doesn't work? Suddenly your owner and GM are the guys who sold their souls for nothing and have lost all trust with the fan base. Dodger fans are still talking about the Piazza trade ten years later. I imagine bringing Bonds to town would be like that, except worse.
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| 11 | Toral
ID: 575542418
Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 14:09
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Why would Bonds suddenly be more humble than he has been for the rest of his life?
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| 12 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 15:28
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What happens if the Barry Bonds experiment doesn't work?
I'd be happy that my team at least tried to get better. Anyone that thinks their team would be worse with Bonds is insane.
Hell, the Giants are only 6 back. I'm sure they'd be a lot closer to 1st if they would've resigned Bonds.
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| 13 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 15:45
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bmd, I get where you're coming from, but the negatives far outweight the positives IMM. Think back to when he was in pursuit of the record. He was jeered EVERYWHERE except for SF. Now SF doesn't even want him. They are going in a different direction anyhow and want to develop their youngsters. I can't blame ANY team for not signing him. Peter Gammons said that he's done. He certainly knows more about it than any of us. But who knows?
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| 14 | Barilko6
ID: 3051187
Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 15:56
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Hell, the Giants are only 6 back. I'm sure they'd be a lot closer to 1st if they would've resigned Bonds.
Sometimes there can be a lot said for addition by subtraction.
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| 15 | biliruben
ID: 52561217
Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 16:04
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I think that they are that close has much more to do with the leader being under .500.
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| 16 | holt
ID: 341542412
Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 18:27
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ok, I'm no Bonds fan, but why would the Yankees choose Sexson over Bonds. Sexson is Horrible. I know Sexson was dirt cheap (still more costly than he's probably worth) but I kinda doubt that Bonds would ask for much money at this point.
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| 17 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 18:35
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Sexson has good numbers against lefties, which will allow them to give Giambi those days off. Its a good left/right platoon.
Oh, plus he's a cheaper price and less of a clubhouse cancer.
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| 18 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 18:37
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From everything I've heard, Bonds is still asking for 20 mil. And if they don't win the world series after signing Bonds...
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| 19 | Building 7
ID: 174591519
Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 18:58
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I read where Bonds was willing to play for the league minimum, and that he would donate that to charity if that would help get him signed.
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| 20 | SB
ID: 106371920
Sat, Jul 19, 2008, 21:39
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Yeah, he's willing to play for league minimum. Where did you hear that he wanted 20 mil, Blue Hen? Your source is way, way off.
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| 21 | loki
ID: 486271311
Sat, Jul 19, 2008, 23:06
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There is no getting around the fact that the MLB owners have black balled Barry Bonds. I am not a Barry Bonds fan, in fact I root for the LADs, but it bugs me to the nth degree that the owners who are protected by congressional exemption from antitrust legislation are able to get away with this.
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| 22 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Jul 20, 2008, 11:26
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loki, I wouldn't want the headache and problems he'd bring to my team. There is more negative than positive IMM. Therefore, I wouldn't characterize it as "black-balled." I think he's done it to himself.
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| 23 | Seattle Zen
ID: 29241823
Sun, Jul 20, 2008, 21:59
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loki, I wouldn't want the headache and problems he'd bring to my team. There is more negative than positive IMM. Therefore, I wouldn't characterize it as "black-balled." I think he's done it to himself.
I don't know why this myth is so deeply ingrained in your brain, Ref. I've heard from many sources that most of his teammates really enjoyed having Barry on their team. There were exceptions: Jeff Kent, for example, I'm sure there are others, but by and large, most players liked him. The press, management, on the other hand, not so much.
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| 24 | Perm Dude
ID: 17656208
Sun, Jul 20, 2008, 22:48
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Bonds can probably best show that he's not a prima donna by playing a little minor league ball at this point, which will keep him in game shape.
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| 25 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 00:28
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SZ, if you don't agree with my opinion than that is your right.
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| 26 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 16:09
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Ref-Follow the link to an article about the one team who could put up with a Bondian headache.
link
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| 27 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 00:07
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Thanks loki. Thought it spoke volumes when they signed Sexson to be their DH. But never underestimate a Steinbrenner!!!
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| 28 | walk
ID: 181472714
Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 12:18
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NY Times and NY Daily News indicate that the NYY are going to pass on Bonds. DH is crowded on this team with expensive guys like Posada, Damon and Matsui...all fielders who are hurt in one way or another...There is just no room for Bonds unless all of these guys get seriously hurt (and two of them are not so far off from that!).
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| 29 | Barilko6
ID: 3051187
Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 13:37
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I think Bonds has really hurt himself for not sucking it up and signing with an independant league like Rickey and Jose did. At least then he would be able to say he is in shape and game ready.
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