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Subject: Gurupie 20 2008 Discussion
Posted by: Ref
- Donor [539581218] Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 01:25
Supplemental Draft
Draft Recap
Draft Discussion
Pre-season Discussion
Waivers have been turned on. All teams are compliant. Order is set to the same base order of the S-Draft. You may pick up players right away but they will be on Waivers until sometime after midnight on early Thursday morning (one full day + on WW).
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| 126 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, May 27, 2008, 00:24
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Anyone who has prospect room - I am looking to get rid of one of Andrus or Tabata, and fill the spot with somebody who will help me sooner. Let me know.
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| 127 | Myboyjack
ID: 8216923
Wed, May 28, 2008, 20:29
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I'd like to call up Jay Bruce and drop Livan Hernandez, please.
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| 128 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Wed, May 28, 2008, 22:10
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Done and Bruce callup noted in the rules.
Yo mbj - do you regret the Hamilton/Volquez trade?!? I think Volquez is pitching a bit over his head....although admittedly a solid #2 (perhaps....I still have some doubts) SP is pretty valuable, Hamilton is just a monster.
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| 129 | Myboyjack
ID: 8216923
Wed, May 28, 2008, 22:34
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Thanks for the help.
Dunn, Hamilton, Bruce would have been amazing; however, I've seen enough of Volquez to believe he's not pitching over his head - he's a #1 starter. He's gamer and has been helped a lot by work with Mario Soto on his change.
With Cueto and Bailey, and a still relatively young Harang, the Reds have the making of an effective staff for the first time since 1990. They still have acouple of guys pitching in the minors and a couple of hitters that will be in the majors very soon and are + players. I look with hope to 2009.
I was disapointed to see Bruce make an out tonight. There was a poll on a Cinci radio station as to whether be retired. Votes were pretty even.
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| 130 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 28, 2008, 22:49
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I knew Bruce was good but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn. I like Vol a lot. He's a little wild at times and he lets runners on but amazingly has been able to pitch out of it most of the time. Dunn has to be one of the most underated player in baseball right now. I really like where the Reds are headed.
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| 131 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, May 28, 2008, 23:48
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I'd like to send down Reynolds please.
Of course Volquez is pitching over his head, he has a 1.31 ERA! But he's been very very good, he's a potential ace, and Cincy definitely needed a solid #1/#2 SP more then they needed a big OF bat, even one who has been as good as Hamilton. In the end, that trade is looking like a solid deal for both teams, though Texas needs SP's just as badly...
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| 132 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Thu, May 29, 2008, 09:05
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Evan Longoria is going to play some SS? Well isn't that just useful... whohoo! I need one of those things like at Christmas where each day you pull the door up and there is a piece of chocolate for each time he starts there. How many games does CBS require? 10?
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| 133 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Thu, May 29, 2008, 11:17
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Texas has bats worth playing - guys like Botts, Boggs, etc. They even felt Mench could be let go. Volquez would have helped them much more than Hamilton.
That said, Hamilton is a monster. If I'd had him in G20 last year, I would have kept him in a second.
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| 134 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Thu, May 29, 2008, 11:22
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His story is crazy, obviously we all know the drug problems... I found it interesting that the Rangers have someone with him at all times kind of like a bodyguard - except its to protect him from himself. I believe they even have someone that lives with him full time in fear of a relapse. He really must have some severe additictions.
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| 135 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, May 29, 2008, 11:33
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131 done
132 5 this year 10 for next year (wtf chocolate?)
134 At least it's not like TO is going to mentor Pacman Jones
If you need a commish you might also try to email (all of) us just in case. Don't think we've been tardy to this point though.
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| 136 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, May 30, 2008, 16:51
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If you like high scoring games, you should be wtaching the Rocks in Wrigley today. WInd blwoing out over 20 mph. Cubs just scored 9 straight runs to take a one run lead. Yeah they are only in the 7th. 10-9 Cubs and counting...
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| 137 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Fri, May 30, 2008, 22:49
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We were watching this early, had a meeting, and all got back to our desks in the 9th. Collectively, everyone noticed it wasn't 9-1 anymore...
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| 138 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sat, May 31, 2008, 01:50
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I called up Carlos Gonzalez for the first time.
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| 139 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Sat, May 31, 2008, 22:36
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With Jacobs coming back and recent moves, I have hitters to spare. Kent, Wilkerson, and Cody Ross can be had for mid-level draft picks. Also looking to move guys like Jacobs, Hannahan, and Church, but those guys will obviously come at a premium.
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| 140 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Jun 01, 2008, 21:20
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LOL, reminds me of Species of past years. How about I pick up guys off FA wire and immediately try and pimp them for draft picks!!! ;)
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| 141 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Mon, Jun 02, 2008, 11:41
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You do that, Ref. Regularly.
I got no fewer than four offers for Jay Bruce in my leagues this week. Mostly from teams who just got him. If a guy will help your team, does it matter where he came from?
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| 142 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Jun 02, 2008, 20:23
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I got a good snicker out of Wilkerson. He was on BH's roster for a whole 65 minutes before asking for a mid-level pick.
Signed - 05/31/08 10:31 pm ET
Offered - 05/31/08 11:36 pm ET
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| 143 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jun 02, 2008, 22:57
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BH, name one player I've EVER picked up off FA and immediately offered him in a trade. Hey, Species got it to work a time or two and a perfect example is Bruce...but for the most part, there is a reason they are a FA. I'm not hatin, just think it's funny.
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| 144 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 00:24
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Alright, I'll hold him awhile. Wilkerson will have value. There's a reason I picked him up from being a FA.
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| 145 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 00:06
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Been down the Wilkerson path once before already
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| 146 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 00:33
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Haven't we all?
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| 147 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 09:41
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Isn't Wilkerson hitting .227? I got Fred Lewis for sale for a later pick - and he can steal a base too! :)
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| 148 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 12:28
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You're probably better off talking up Lewis' .362 on-base percentage, which is a category that counts in this league. Wilkerson's definitely not at that level for the season, although he appears to be hitting well lately.
Why would you want to ditch Lewis anyway? He's having a pretty good year. I'd imagine he'd be helpful to someone. Carlos Ruiz, on the other hand...
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| 149 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 12:30
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Anyone want Smoltz?
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| 150 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 12:39
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Yeah, Fred Lewis has been a nice find. A little pop, a little speed. With some of the OF that are starting for the contenders, some of them would be well served to throw me a mid-round pick for his services. Or make me an offer for Bay and then I could look into keeping Lewis myself.
Yeah this Ruiz character has been underwhelming, someone needs to take out his platoon... but my hitting hasn't really been the problem. I got a good numbers over there. Its the pitching thats been brutal outside of Dice-K.
I'd probably package Bay and Bucholz for a good young keeper level SP. I can't believe I wouldn't get an offer for that combination of production and potential.
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| 151 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 04:42
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LOL, reminds me of Species of past years. How about I pick up guys off FA wire and immediately try and pimp them for draft picks!!! ;)
You bitched about rsf cockblocking your tinsley promotion and then you say shit about bh pimping some of his guys? I really don't see a problem with what rsf did or what you said in this post but you can't get mad at rsf and then make a post like this.
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| 152 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 15:03
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bmd, this is two very different things.
I said, hey I've got this guy who is a keeper who I can trade. RSF then came in and said he was horrible, etc. (before later coming on and said he didn't realize his stats were as high as they were).
BH, has been picking guys off FA wire and immediately wanting draft picks for them. And some he wants "premium" picks.
For instance, I drop Hannahan. Then he picks him up and wants to trade him to me for a premium pick. He's done the same with Wilky, Kent, etc. Now he might strike gold once in awhile and more power to him if he does. I just find it funny that it happens so often. Now if someone thinks they can use one of those guys, then cool. But I didn't pick up JT and say hey I have a guy I just picked off FA because no one wanted him and you cna have him for a midlevel or premium pick.
Maybe you don't see the difference and if you don't, then we're going ot have to agree to disagree.
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| 153 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 15:46
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Yeah, those two were different I'd agree. RSF was essentially "that guys sucks, why would anyone waste a pick on him" and this was more commentary on BH's strategy and timing.
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| 154 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 17:09
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There's no difference. Tinsley sucks and so do the guys bh is pimping. rsf made a post about how bad he thought Tinsley was and explained reasons. You made a post about how bh's guys were just fa's.
Managers in all the G20 leagues make bad trades. It sucks but there's really nothing that can be done about it. I think calling out other managers "pimping" is fine since it might prevent some bad trades from going down. I'm sure there's tons of bashing done through AIM. I think this is a better medium since the "pimps" can defend why the player that "Mr C-block" say sucks is better than what Mr. C-block thinks.
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| 155 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 18:05
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Not to carry on this discussion or anything ...
I realized my math was wrong in post 142. BH offered Wilkerson up at 22:36 (10:36).
That means that Wilkerson was on BH's team for 5 minutes before being offered up, not 65. :-)
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| 156 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 18:28
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Ref is way off anyway. I would pick up guys off of the FA wire at the start of the hot streak, let them ferment a little and establish themselves as more than a fluke, before pawning them off for pick upgrades or prospect picks. Get your story straight! ;-)
My favorite was Gary Matthews Jr. as a total throw-in on a trade with Tosh (i.e. - he was the player Tosh was going to drop in our trade). He got hot all of a sudden in TEX and I got a prospect pick out of it :)
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| 157 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 19:50
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I continue to add Matthews on a couple teams every year just hoping he'll get hot again. It's been a lot of bitter disappointment.
I've been able to sign fill-in closers off the FA wire and trade them away fairly quickly ... but I don't think I've ever been able to pull it off with a hitter. There just aren't many good hitters left on the wire.
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| 158 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 21:26
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Ya see, Species. when you got Matthews he had no perceived balue, but suddenly he got hot. I got Willis and dropped him before he got hot and became a keeper. Tosh and my comments were based on him picking guys up and IMMEDIATELY offering them for midlevel and premium picks. It may work out they get hot and he can get something out of him. I got Hafner off the FA wire. Many other nuggets have and will continue to be found there.
I consider myself t be good friendw ith Species and BH and we give each other a lot of good-natured ribbing both on here and privately. It's all good. I also like bmd very much. Just because we disagree on what he perceives something to be the same thing doesn't offend me. Perception=reality. I really don't think my comments were off-base at all, but like I said, let's agree to disagree and move on. Btw, I also consider RSF a friend and don't think he did anything intentionally malicious.
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| 159 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 00:07
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I agree with everything you said. I am a bad person and should be punished. Except one thing.
Ref, you're an idiot for dropping Hannahan. Because he's actually good. He's 2nd on my team in walks right now. If he can bat .260, he'll be a plus player. And you need a third baseman, right?
Actually, I'm content to let Great One bash my players. First he bashes Joe Mauer for not hitting any homers and he hits two in three days. And tonight, Wilkerson stole a base.
Hot naked chicks don't just fall out of the sky. And man does Jeff Kent suck.
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| 160 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 00:37
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Now that's the BH we all know and love! ;)
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| 161 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 00:40
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LOL! Kent just now hit a HR! That's two on the night.
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| 162 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 13:50
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A middle infielder with eight home runs on the year. Man, he sucks.
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| 164 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 13:58
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Reference for the joke in 159.
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| 165 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 16:19
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Without looking... I want to say Dogma and a naked Chris Rock falling.
Yeah, BH - I'm playing in H2H league where my opponent has Mauer, great timing to finally wake up.
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| 166 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 20:42
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If you couldn't find players on the FA wire who can get hot, there wouldn't be so many add/drops. Can always find a nugget or two.
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| 167 | Perm Dude
ID: 420241913
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 22:28
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Stupid Ponson.
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| 168 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 23:07
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I'm looking to trade a starting pitcher. There are two tiers to choose from. I seek to add a young keeper-level hitter (non-OF).
Tier 1 - possible 2009 keepers
Jeff Francis (2-5, 5.53, 1.52, 7.1 k/9)
Andrew Miller (4-4, 5.37, 1.66, 7.1 k/9)
Cliff Lee (9-1, 2.45, 1.04, 7.6 k/9)
Joe Saunders (9-2, 2.63, 1.09, 4.3 k/9)
Tier 2 - obvious 2009 keepers
Erik Bedard (4-4, 4.47, 1.33, 7.9 k/9)
John Lackey (1-1, 1.80, 1.03, 6.0 k/9)
Roy Halladay (7-5, 2.94, 1.00, 7.0 k/9)
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| 169 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 23:14
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Lol at the blockbuster Verlander for Ortiz trade before the season. Ortiz is hurt and Verlander just sucks.
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| 170 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Jun 07, 2008, 00:13
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Re 162
YOu'd think that at least some of these guys coudl at least crack your starting lineup lol!!!
I just saw Kent get ejected. Horrible called 3rd strike by the ump. There may have been slight contact, but if anything, the ump initiated it. I will say thta the unp gave him every possible chance to go out to his position and Kent flat out refused.
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| 171 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Sun, Jun 08, 2008, 23:40
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Oh, he's always been a jerk. But man can he hit.
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| 172 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jun 09, 2008, 15:38
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Baseball Plaque and Trophy
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| 173 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Mon, Jun 09, 2008, 20:45
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I actually had this que'd up 2 hours and 31 minutes ago... but had to reset when I forgot to post.
Barfield is available for a mid-round draft pick. Who wants a sweet swinging young 2B with a ton of upside!?!
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| 174 | Peter N.
ID: 38558910
Wed, Jun 11, 2008, 23:49
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I had the bright idea to start Hawpe over Murphy this morning. That move costs me 2 HRs and 5 RBIs. Now I read Soriano breaks his hand. Unreal night.
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| 175 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Jun 12, 2008, 01:30
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Anybody want Bonderman for next year?
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| 176 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jun 13, 2008, 00:49
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