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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 20:11
That should say a NON-KEEPER are a dime a dozen.
GO are you saying that the Lottery Ticket has long odds of hitting the jackpot?
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Great One
ID: 2241519 Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 20:27
Just that its nice to be comfortable and have a buck in your pocket, but you'll never really hit the jackpot without having a few "lottery tickets" too. I think Slizz and myself have copyrighted the lottery ticket methodology of fantasy managing lol...
I guess Roosevelt said it best -- “It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”
Teddy Roosevelt, speaking at the Sorbonne in Paris, April 23, 1910
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blue hen
ID: 0022514 Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 21:21
I'd say Francoeur and Burton are both lottery tickets. I wouldn't even say that Francoeur is a better one. Burton's upside is as a closer, and I'm already way up there in saves this year and have two closers on my roster who I have been actively trying to peddle (three if you count Chad Cordero, who fits that description).
I'd rather gamble on finding a hitter worth keeping. The odds are longer, but the result is better, if it happens.
Ref, I don't think you'll find too many relievers who are young, have a good K rate, are among the first who will lay claim on a closer job, and have an ERA anywhere near Burton. I know this because I've been looking for them all season. If you can find anybody, let me know and I'll see if I can pick em up.
I'll renounce my rights to Cueto. He's not over the limits but is one start away from them.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Fri, Jul 04, 2008, 08:22
According to WIFN's Bill Shanks, the Braves have sent Jeff Francoeur to Double-A and are calling up Jason Perry to replace him.
We were hoping to get some additional confirmation here, but it's looking like that will be impossible until the morning. It's perfectly reasonable for the Braves to believe that Francoeur would have an easier time breaking out of his slump in the minors than in the majors, but they're taking a big defensive downgrade by subtracting him from their outfield and they don't have any great choices to replace him. Jordan Schafer isn't hitting in Double-A, and while the Braves have been hyperaggressive with top prospects before, they're not going to haul up Jason Heyward from low-A ball this year. Perry, a quad-A player with big numbers this year, gets the nod and probably would have even if Brandon Jones happened to be eligible to rejoin the team. Still, he may only stick until Matt Diaz returns. Ideally, Francoeur would put a few good games together and rejoin the team right after the break.
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Great One
ID: 2241519 Fri, Jul 04, 2008, 10:39
Franceour to the minors! haha...
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Perm Dude
ID: 969411 Fri, Jul 04, 2008, 12:09
Timing is everything...
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 11:33
I'll email everyone as well just in case, but the deadline to renounce any prospect is the freeze MONDAY--which looks like will be 12:10 PM ET. At that time, the draft picks will be set. If any player is found to be illegal, they will be lost. Cards and I have went skimmed over them and identified a few. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. See our prospect rules for help.
Remember that if your prospect hits the threshold after the freeze, then that player will have to be kept as part of your 9 if you'd like to retain him for next year. So strategize accordingly.
Standings for the draft order and lottery draw will be determined after Sunday's games (Mon morning).
Lastly, Myself, Tosh and Species are all unavailable to start the draft on the 14th. My availability will also be severely limited at times Sun-Tues this week. Hopefully Cards will be able to kick off the draft for us. I'll try and get everything ready but I will be out of town three days prior to that as well (11-14 all told) and unsure of access. Most of you have done this so much, it shouldn't take a lot.
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Toral
ID: 575542418 Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 12:12
I renounce my rights to Andy Marte.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 12:33
Since, you automatically keep any prospects not renounced, it is pointless to have a separate prospect declaration thread I think.
GL has renounced Barton.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 12:46
With Marte renounced, there are no more prospects remaining whow ere drafted in the first round. There are still three left who were drafted in our first draft (all Rd 3). There are still 8 players drafted in the first two drafts (first 5 rounds) whose limits are still grandfathered under the original prospect limits.
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Myboyjack
ID: 8216923 Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 15:59
I renounce prospect rights to Jay Bruce
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Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 16:07
Done mbj.
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StLCards
ID: 372301819 Sun, Jul 06, 2008, 16:37
I'm renouncing the rights to Carlos Gonzalez and have removed him from my prospect list.
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blue hen
ID: 0022514 Sun, Jul 06, 2008, 21:17
By the way, do the managers who vetoed the trade have any desire to man up and say why? Were you ridiculing me for trading for a minor leaguer?
MGR: #, Name,Pos,Team,(# Call-ups), *not in db/salary
Allhair: 7.05 Wade Davis,P,TB; 9.08 Matt Wieters,C,Bal bmd: 3.11 Ian Stewart,3B,Col(1); 10.05 Henry Sosa,SP,SF* bj21:10.04 Jon Meloan,P,LAD; 11.01 Will Inman,P,MIL Blue Hen: 7.02 Jose Tabata,OF,NYY; 8.01 Elvis Andrus,SS,ATL; 9.01 David Price,SP,TB Code 9.13 Wladimir Balentien,OF,SEA; 10.06 Brandon Jones,OF,ATL Darkside: 4.05 Brandon Wood,3B,LAA; 9.02 Matt LaPorta,OF,MIL GoatLocker 9.03 Eric Hurley,SP,TEX Great One 9.05 Michael Moustakas,3B,KC; Guru: 4.14 Andy LaRoche,3B,LAD(1); 10.01 Travis Snider,OF,TOR; 11.02 Jeff Clement,C,SEA MBJ: 9.18 Angel Villalona,3B,SF* PD: 3.14 Jeff Niemann,P,TB; 9.19 Carlos Carrasco,SP,PHI Peter N: 4.02 Cameron Maybin,OF,DET(1); 10.09 Max Scherzer,P,ARI(1) Ref: 9.15 Nick Adenhart,P,LAA(1); 9.17 Brandon Moss,OF,BOS; R9: 9.14 Jacob McGee,P,TB; SlackYokel: 10.03 Fernando Martinez,OF,NYM Species: StL Cards:9.07 Colby Rasmus,OF,StL Toral: 6.06 Andrew McCutchen,OF,PIT; 9.09 Clayton Kershaw,P,LA Tosh: 7.07 Adam Miller,P,CLE; 9.10 Rick Porcello,P,DET Twarpy: 10.11 Troy Patton,P,BAL
These managers have had their 2008 Prospect Draft selections altered via trades
3-12 bmd gets Species' 1st round prospect pick (S. Drew) 5-15 blue hen gets Pete's 1st rounder (Vazquez deal)
Standings are set. No ties. Teams 7-20 are in lottery draw. Reversal of standings. No snake.
Rank Team 1 Ref 2 blackjackis21 3 bmd 4 myboyjack 5 Albert Pujols' Elbow 6 Code Cracker 7 Guru 8 allhair allstars 9 Pete's Makin' It Rain 10 Utley's Elderly Crew 11 U Can't Tosh This 12 Species = Worst Manager in G20 13 GL On The Move 14 Darkside of ACME 15 GO's Phoenix Rising 16 Slackjawed Yokel 17 Blue Hen 18 Toral Blues 19 StL Cards 20 Mo Vaughn's Breakfast Buffet
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:16
5 players are still grandfathered under original rules.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:27
Guru has sent the lottery info to me. I am running it right now...
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:31
Lottery winner is...
StL Cards!
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:32
2nd ball is also Cards...Repick
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:33
2nd Pick goes to Allhair!
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:34
3rd pick goes to Great One!
Will one of the others that were sent results, please confirm at your leisure.
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blue hen
ID: 30311814 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:39
Dammit Pete. Try harder next time. Allhair is even higher than you are... dammit.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:41
I am going to figure out the draft grid and actual picks momentarily...but here is the BASE Order...
Rd 1
1. Cards 2. AA 3. GO 4. PD 5. Toral 6. BH 7. Yokel 8. Darkside 9. GL 10. Species 11. Tosh 12. R9 13. Pete 14. Guru 15. Code 16. Twarpy 17. MBJ 18. bmd 19. bj21 20. Ref
Other rounds will simply reverse standings. If anyone doesn't have a pick, they will simply be skipped.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:43
Darky with the HUGE jump up for the first round. He had 7 balls out of 1001. GO had 59 and Cards had 200. PD had 250 and Toral had 148 but got shut out.
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Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:59
[103] Results confirmed.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 16:13
2008 G20 Prospect Draft Grid
Round 12
Round 13
Round 14
1
Cards
Cards
Species
2
allhair
Yokel
3
GO
GO
4
PD
GL
5
Toral
Species
6
Yokel
R9
7
Darkside
Twarpy
8
GL
MBJ
9
bmd
10
Tosh
11
R9
12
BH#
13
Code
14
Twarpy
15
MBJ
16
bmd
17
bj21
18
Ref
*Via Species
#Via Pete
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 16:20
I can pretty up the gird a little later. The grid balances. 33 Prospects kept. 27 picks. Take a look and make sure I didn't make any mistakes.
Since Tosh, Species and myself are going to be out of contact for the start of the draft and Tosh and I even longer, I am going to get everything set up ahead of time. I will even get the threads set up in THE BASEBALL STANDINGS FORUM. Note that you will not be allowed to make any selections before Noon ET on Monday of the all star break. Cards will be available to help administer the draft if anyone needs assistance.
A couple quick notes...after the freeze on Sunday, no players will be allowed to be picked up who are prospect eligible unitl the draft is declared over. 3 hour per pick time limit. 4 hour total. No one has more than two picks (species traded away his first pick).
A draft-eligible prospect is defined as a hitter that has less than 150 AB or a pitcher with less than 55 IP or 20 GP and has not been on your active roster within one week prior to the draft. They do not need to be in CBS player database, but can not be still in high school/college, etc. They need to either be on a pro team, drafted by a team, or a current free agent/professional Japanese or Cuban player.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 16:21
Pick 9 should be *.
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blue hen
ID: 30311814 Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 16:39
Awesome. I counted 12 players I'd like. So that means I'll get one of them...
If you have a prospect trade only that does not invlove a player off your team, you can post it here and confirm. If it involved a squad member, it still needs to go through CBS. During the draft if you have a trade involving a player and a prospect, you will most likely need to put it on CBS and have the other manager draft the player in question as to allow for manager review of the trade.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 08:27
after the freeze on Sunday, no players will be allowed to be picked up who are prospect eligible unitl the draft is declared over
This means no one may add a prosepct-eligible person via FA on your regular team. This rule is in place to protect the integrity of the draft. Since there are no games going on anyway--it won't hurt you to wait until after the draft if he's not drafted.
Angel Villalona is now in the database, so I added a salary for him. Somehow I added LaPorta to mbj's team at the same time, so just ignore that transaction and he has since been dropped again.
Ugh, CBS sucks so bad. The freeze is so ridiculously stupid. We need to stop giving them money.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 13:10
BH and the head programmer for ESPN's site has been working with us to try to make their site work with us. It's not able to do so yet but some of the issues will be fixed in time for next year. Still others may not be. Working on it. BH made us a league and we have worked on things.
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blue hen
ID: 30311814 Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 14:02
*cough*
He's not exactly the head programmer. But he is in the fantasy group and is a good way to get things done.
What I'd like to see, either here or on the ESPN league page, is a full list of what would be needed to run G20 on ESPN. That way, we can work through the list and get as many of them as possible into the ESPN fantasy roadmap.
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Great One
ID: 2241519 Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 14:41
Yankee-Rays notes.
Giambi moustache day is funny and Posada's helmet you can't see the NY logo its so dirty (and my friend would always throw the "we're so cleancut, shaven, shiny helmets and classy" etc what happenened Girardi?! making them more blue-collar? :)
Reid Brignac looks like he's 12 years old. Holy crap - Brett Gardner was a walk-on at my college! (Charleston) but he plays for the stupid Yankees, boo.... I'm so conflicted. Anyone need some steals? Gardner could be good for a few weeks of big steals #'s for real cheap.
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blue hen
ID: 30311814 Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 14:47
I'll offer a mid-level pick. And I was going to take him in the prospect draft - you ruined my plan.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 15:26
RE: 117
I made a list on that ESPN page. Your ESPN dude agreed that several issues would be included next year but others he wasn't sure about.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 23:54
I guess Francouer tore up AAA and was brought back already. Well he just homered against DLowe who had been lights out until then. Mabye that AAA stint was the boost he needed.
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