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0 Subject: Name those players

Posted by: blue hen
- [30311814] Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 15:40

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76Khahan
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      Mon, Jul 28, 2008, 20:16
On a more serious note than my last post I believe the rep from the Detroit Tigers is Nino Espinoza.
77DWetzel
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      Mon, Jul 28, 2008, 21:23
Stylish pick Khakan. Any reason he'd put on the Tigers uni, since he never played for them? :)
78 pjb
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      Mon, Jul 28, 2008, 23:33
That's Dick Ruthven, who was traded back to the Phillies for Gene Garber. The civilian next to George Foster in the back row is NL publicity director Blake Cullen. The Padre kneeling to the right of Lasorda is Roger Craig. The big guy in the left rear could be Kirk Gibson. That's Blyleven partially concealed next to Candelaria. I think the big guy next to Candy is Jim Bibby. The blocked Expo probably is Gary Carter.

In a message dated 7/28/2008 10:46:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Paulie1856 writes:
RMF: Name those players [RotoGuru Baseball Forum]

Mr Conlin, Sir,

Who is the Phillie behind Tug in that picture? Is it Tommy Hutton? Also, how could anyone mistake LB for Schmitty? How about Chuck Tanner giving Bill Giles a massage? Pretty cool picture, huh?
79Khahan
      ID: 486552412
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 00:09
wetzel, your right. I was going by a friends ID. However, looking up the 1979 tigers, it appears to be Aurelio Lopez

As for the Phillie behind Mcgraw, it appears to be Greg Luzinski


Also, other obvious differences aside, I think the hair may have confused my friend when he named Espinoza
80Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:03
The guy in the top left looks like Eckersley. However...
The cap looks more like an Indians cap than a Red Sox cap, and Eck was on Cleveland from '75-'77 before moving to Boston.

(Actually, the cap logo look more like this:

But Boston caps have always had a "B" logo - unless this was some special cap.)

Here are Eckersley baseball cards for '76, '77, and '78 (taken in '75, 76', and '77):


He looks too young on those cards to be the guy in the upper left (particularly the moustache), so I'm guessing it's either an older Eckersley (after the Cleveland era) with the alternate Sox logo, or else it's an Eckersley look-alike.

81blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:10
My money's on Buckner. He was a Cub during the 1979 season.
82Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:19
Great picture.

This is the first time I've seen this but this was my hay day of baseball. I recognize many of the people involved.

Just educated guess. Was going to say it was the '79 all star game since LaSorda would have been the manager, but it obviously isn't. You have an AL player there. The NL was dominant at that time, but only one AL player? Also it must be a Japanese tour as they are in a Japanese ballpark.

The guy kneeling in front of LaSorda is the Dodgers trainer at the time, Bill Bueller.

I am not sure who else hasn't been named...
83Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:21
Here is a 1980 Eckersley card (presumably taken in 1979.)



The face looks pretty good, but the cap logo doesn't match. Still, the alternate Red Sox logo does seem to fit.
84Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:26
Actually, that looks like a Cubs hat that Eck is wearing. So that would mean that the pic is mid-80s.
85Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:26
I just noticed that Eckersley had 16 complete games in 1978, and 17 in 1979!

I guess he was both a starter and a closer!
86Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:28
Right. He was a starter until he went to Oakland.
87Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:35
SD changed their hat style in 1985.

So based on that and Eck as a Cub, My current thinking is this picture was taken after the 1984 season.
88Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:38
OK, that's not right either...I'm going to figure this out!
89Perm Dude
      ID: 12614299
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:40
He probably borrowed a cap.
90Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:42
Joel Youngblood only played on the Mets from 77-82, so hat's the window now. If That's an Indianas hat, Eck only played for the Indians from 75-77.

So it's probably a 1977 picture.
91Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:49
So my guess is that this picture is:

The US Tour of Japan 1977.
92Myboyjack
      Dude
      ID: 014826271
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:51
1980 - following 1979 season. Looks at Yoelbloods' stats..after 1979 is the only year that makes sense for a lot of those guys.
93Myboyjack
      Dude
      ID: 014826271
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:52
The Cub is Kingman - right? Same height as parker...
94Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:53
It looks like a Cubs hat to me which means it would be Buckner. This would fit the timeframe (Buckner played on the Cubs from 1977-1984) and the fact that it's a majority of National League players.
95Myboyjack
      Dude
      ID: 014826271
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 13:54
Also Foster being with the Reds makes it pre-1981
96JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 14:01
...In 1979, three seasons into what would become his 19-year tenure as manager of the Dodgers, Lasorda led a National League All-Star squad on a postseason tour of Japan... source

MLB in Japan history
1979 - The NL All-Stars were 4-2-1 against the AL, then a combined US team went 1-1 vs. Japanese competition.

Still looking for box scores and rosters.
97Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 14:11
Lopez joined the Tigers in '79.

'79 wsa the eyar that everyone loved those ugly rings on their hats. As you can see, some have rings and some don't with the same team.

MBJ--you've got it. That's Kingman!

This is definitely 1979. Had it right the first time.
98JeffG
      Leader
      ID: 01584348
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 14:11
Found two newspaper articles (subscription needed to read) on the 1979 tour:
link link
99Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 14:12
Nice find JeffG.
100Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 14:17
[86] I was joking. I knew Eckersley began his career as a starter. My comment was that he was apparently both starting and closing his own games in 1978-79.
101Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 14:34
Kingman looks like the best non-Eckersley fit. He was on the NL All Star team in both 1979 and 1980.

1980 Kingman card:

102angryCHAIR
      ID: 561401810
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 14:51
Anybody read Japanese? That might help?
103Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 15:22
Apparently I can a little bit.

That building across the street says YMCA. The scoreboard sign says Coke.Another sign is an advertisement for Dunlop. Can't really tell what those other signs say. ;)

104blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 16:23
Yeah, I'll go with Kingman over Eck or Buckner. He's really before my time.
105Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 16:55
THE DAILY HERALD November 1979 Section 4- 5 AP photo PINCH HfTTER. Dave KINgman belted a two-run homer to lead the National League ALL STARS to an 11-2 rout of the American League ALL-STARS IN the first game of their JAPAN tour. Atlanta Braves knucklebALL pitcher Phil Niekro started and was the wINner for the NL managed by the Los Angeles Dodgers' Tom LASORDA. KINgman's blast carne off Aurelio the Mex- ican relief ace of the Detroit with Joe on first base. Sports shorts A's deal 6Sox...
106barilko6
      ID: 21662810
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 17:08
Guys, all you had to do was check Dwetz's post in 37!
107Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 17:31
DOH!
108ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 17:45
I would bet a paycheck the Cub in that pic is Kingman...was one of my fav players around those years...

442 career HRs...that is about all he could do though...
109ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 18:04
Any player still not identified?

I think the suit behind Matthews and Tanner is Lee Macphail...could not find a good pic of him from that era but this pic certainly resembles his son Andy but this would have been before Andy's time.
110darkside
      ID: 181035120
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 19:38
Cough, cough...I had Kingman in post 47 and linked a picture in 53.
111RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 11:12
Yeah, silly n00bs to the thread... :)
112blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 12:25
Players identified:

Tommy Lasorda, Aurelio Lopez, Dave Parker, John Stearns, Chuck Tanner, Dave Kingman, Larry Bowa, Steve Garvey, Tug McGraw, George Foster, Lee MacPhail, Bill Bueller, Ellis Valentine, Joel Youngblood, Gene Garber, Bob Forsch, Jim Bibby, Bert Blyleven, Gary Matthews, Ozzie Smith, John Candelaria, Phil Niekro.

Good work guys.
113tastethewaste
      ID: 911431318
      Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 17:33
so you dont think the guy behind mcgraw is luzinski?
114blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 17:38
Yeah I thought I said that. That's why someone else should probably do it.
115blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 17:39


Definitely Luzinski
116RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 17:52
Thats what I was suggesting in post 57, just wasn't too sure on the beard. I know he had it later in his career, just couldn't find any "that era" photos of it.
117ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 17:57
Only two hall of fame players...bunch of cusp guys...
118ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 17:58
3 if Gary Carter is the hidden player...
119Seattle Zen
      ID: 49112418
      Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 18:36
Gary Carter had a perm. The black afro sticking out of the Expo hat is probably Ellis Valentine. MBJ with that call.
120Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 01:21
Has anyone named Kent Tekulve next to the Candy man?
121Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 18:11
I don't recall Tekulve ever having a beard though. He's tall but stil like 3" shorter than Candyman.
122Seattle Zen
      Leader
      ID: 055343019
      Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 23:34
Jesus, Ref, you really need to read this thread. It has been determined long ago that was Bert Blyleven.
123Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 01, 2008, 00:33
Sorry to offend you SZ. Apparently I'm not the only one to miss stuff in 122 posts. My bad.
124Seattle Zen
      ID: 49112418
      Fri, Aug 01, 2008, 14:25
Oh, it takes a lot more than that to offend me, Ref. And, yes, you are certainly not the only one not to read the thread.

Has anyone ID's the Astro(?) in between John Sterns head and Jim Bibby's head?
125Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 01, 2008, 15:12
SZ, just know it can be a pain when people don't pay attn. or miss posts and bog things down.
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