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Subject: Gurupie 20 2009 Preseason Discussion
Posted by: Ref
- Donor [539581218] Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 09:46
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73 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 12:45
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LOL, I was just coming here to say we are going to go through every prospect to see if they qualify to remain on the prosepct list. Those who don't will be taken off the prospect list and will be put on that player's team so he may use one of his keeper slots on him if he wishes.
Before the season at the keeper deadline and then again at the prospect keeper draft deadline, 7 days before the draft (8 days before the ASG), all hitters must have less than 300 ABs (400 if drafted in Rds 1-5) and pitchers less than 110 IP (100 if drafted in Rds 1-5) or 40 GP (50 if drafted in Rds 1-5) or they must be moved to your active roster or released. Managers must monitor their own prospects. If they are later to have found to be over the max. at that deadline, the player will be immediately removed as a prospect and put on waivers.
As the rules apply to Ian Stewart, bmd is correct. He was drafted in round 3 and is grandfathered under the original rules. He has been called up twice and since he has not hit the AB threshold, he is entitled to be sent down (salary added) after last season. The next time he is called up, he will lose his prospect status (or hits 400 ABs while and not called up at our midseason deadline).
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74 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 12:54
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When the site wipes all non-keepers it also wipes all salaries. So we will ahve to re-add them before the draft. It doubles the work, but w/o a taxi squad or anything to save them--the only other way is to manually add and drop players.
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75 | blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 13:15
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I am looking to deal Elvis Andrus or David Price. You'll be able to keep those guys without using up a keeper.
I'm also looking to trade Ryan Theriot. A middle infielder with speed.
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76 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 15:04
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I haven't decided who my 9 keepers will be just yet. I have at least 15 guys I'm choosing from--though I have since narrowed it down to less than that at this point. I've had discussions but have made no offers yet nor countered anyone yet because it is so wide-open on my final 9 at this point.
I have pretty much decided that I can't keep three closers--so thta would mean that F. Cordero will likely be traded. Still trying to figure out about Hafner, Headley, Ibanez, etc.
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77 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 16:10
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Species and I have went through all prospects.
We've added salaries to about 15-20 guys--including guys who were called up but still have prospect eligibility.
There are about 7 guys who were very close to hitting the threshold but still legal (Kershaw was 2.3 IPs away for instance).
In the end, we didn't find any players who had lost their prospect eligibility.
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78 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 16:34
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I went ahead and put the keeper policy on the site. As of now the keepers will be due by end of day Sun 3/22. We have 9 keepers.
I am going to try and figure out if we can add our prosepcts to the keeper total to see if we don't have to re-assign the salaries. My guess is that we will keep it as is and re-add salaries to all prospects on Mon 3/23.
Man a taxi squad like the added for football would be great for our prospects. But I've asked for that for 6 seasons at least and they've refused to listen. Wish I could get a message to the programmers instead of the lame support staff at CBS.
As it stands now, Draft would start sometime around Noon on Tues. March 24th.
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79 | Peter N.
ID: 4910362617 Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 21:28
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GO, I just saw your offer on CBS. Very interesting. I'll get back to you by the end of the weekend. Also, I hardly ever check my hotmail address anymore and have included my gmail.
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80 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 22:59
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Talking it over, we may put prospects on the team and add them to your keepers. You can only keep 9 plus your prospects. The most anyone has is 4 so it would be 13 max for bh, less than that for the rest of us. Then we could jsut keep them on our teams through the draft to make that easier as well. Still your draft would be over once you hit 23 regular players. Just easier to do it this way then have to find the players and add salary all over again.
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81 | Slizz
ID: 4710371415 Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 08:56
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bh - whats the price on price?
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82 | blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 10:52
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As you can imagine, lots of people are asking about Price. And that makes sense - we all saw him in the ALCS. And you don't have to drop anyone to keep him. So I'm looking for someone who would be the cornerstone of my franchise, someone who will team with Braun to bring home the bacon for a long time.
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83 | Slizz
ID: 4710371415 Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 11:03
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of course...do you see anyone on my team that you'd like?
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84 | blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 11:19
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That's tough Slizz. Your team is young and growing. It might have to be two players. Think of something and shoot me an email.
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85 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Sun, Mar 08, 2009, 18:56
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OK, just starting to look. Might be a case where every single player I own is available. If you think there is somebody you want let me know.
Had a couple of emails, and just got them answered.
Cliff
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86 | Great One
ID: 4425722 Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 18:32
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"We've got two goals in the G20," Obama said, "the first is to make sure that there is concerted action around the globe to jump-start the economy. The second goal is to make sure that we are moving forward on a regulatory reform agenda."
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87 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 11:34
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Man, GO needs his baseball fix badly.
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88 | Great One
ID: 46215212 Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 13:18
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You should be proud that our President is preparing for G20! He does play fantasy sports!
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89 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 23:21
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Great article. Thanks.
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90 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 14:02
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I have had some inquiries but I haven't even decided who I am keeping for sure. Injuries and depth chart is ahaky for some.
As of now here is were I am:
Keeping DLee 1b Roberts 2b Hanley SS Manny OF Soria RP Marmol or F. Cordero RP
Keeping 3 of these players and at least 2 will likely be SP: Shoppach C Hafner DH Headley OF Cantu 1b/3b Ibanez OF Marmol or F. Cordero RP E. Santana SP J. Weaver SP C. Zambrano SP Pelfrey SP
I will consider 2 for 1s or even 3 for 1s or possibly draft picks--depending on the player.
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91 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 16:40
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Post 59:
So the season starts 11 day later this year. Last year's draft took just over 9 days for the 14 rounds and 280 picks. So we can likely start the draft somewhere around the 23rd or 24th with keepers due a couple days before that. Probably would not have Keepers due on a Fri or Sat. So perhaps even they could be due at 11:59 pm on a Sunday night for a Tuesday the 24th start date? However the 24th is the last possible date we should start. If it takes say 10 days, we could get Waivers run one full time before opening day. There are only two games that day.
We should finalize keeper due dates and draft start. Is there a reason Friday keepers is somehow undesirable? Why not have Keepers Friday and start the draft on Sunday or Monday?
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92 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 18:12
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There are people who are out of town this week. Too late to make them due earlier now. We will be fine if we keep close to our usual pace.
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93 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 12:10
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We've had no responses about the plaque [34]. Also no rule change proposals have been made. Anything affecting the players, prospects (also can be made before midseason deadline), game, etc. need to be made before keepers are due.
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94 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 12:18
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Will we be posting keepers at the forum, or just tagging them as keepers on the CBS site?
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95 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 12:28
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Keeper Thread
Started working on it right after I posted. Need to be posted in the keeper thread as well as marked on the site in case of a discrepency and the thread will be the only way to save it for historical perspective. I know I like to go through and look at them.
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96 | beastiemiked
ID: 40155223 Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 18:24
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As of now I'm keeping Jose Reyes Papelbon Berkman Verlander Zimmerman Cueto Dempster Lilly Werth Outside looking in Carpenter Thome Hoffman Ankiel Cust Having a real tough time deciding between my last few keepers. I'd be looking to part with just about anyone except Reyes, Papelbon and berkman for a reasonable offer.
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97 | Toral
ID: 575542418 Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 09:25
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Available as keepers in trade or for draft choices:
Adrian Beltre Howie Kendrick Denard Span Kerry Wood
Might reade for younger player:
Carlos Beltran
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98 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 13:06
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bj21 has had to turn the team over to co-owner mjd. He has not been able to contribute and doesn't forsee much ability to do so in the next few months. He may be able to stay on as co-manager for now, but the team is mjd's.
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99 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 17:14
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Don't forget to mark your keepers on CBS site too!
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100 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 15:12
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I sensed that bj21 was going to leave most of the team responsibility to me due to his time constraints and I am prepared to declare keepers on time and have been prepping for the daft. As a member of G24, I'm well aware of how fast the draft will move. I don't anticipate any problems.
Please keep bj21 on as co-owner, at least for a while, as I'm moving in mid to late April. I'll be arranging for a seamless transition with internet access and the like, but the local cable high speed internet service provider is not known for their great customer service.
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101 | allhair allstars Sustainer
ID: 50902421 Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 22:11
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Are we still looking at 12 noon on 3/24 as a draft start time?
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102 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 23:45
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yes
Because Species sent two prospect along with Wells for Chipper, I needed to add another keeper spot and a roster spot for GL's prospects for keeper/draft purposes only. No rules are being changed.
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103 | blue hen
ID: 8115717 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 01:58
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Reminder:
Before the season at the keeper deadline and then again at the prospect keeper draft deadline, 7 days before the draft (8 days before the ASG), all hitters must have less than 300 ABs (400 if drafted in Rds 1-5) and pitchers less than 110 IP (100 if drafted in Rds 1-5) or 40 GP (50 if drafted in Rds 1-5) or they must be moved to your active roster or released. Managers must monitor their own prospects. If they are later to have found to be over the max. at that deadline, the player will be immediately removed as a prospect and put on waivers.
I got a couple inquiries about Price and Andrus, who weren't kept. Both are prospects according to these rules.
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104 | R9 Leader
ID: 02624472 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 02:24
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Anyone thinking more longterm and who has interest in Mauer, drop me a line.
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105 | Toral
ID: 575542418 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 07:53
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Adrian Beltre and my 12 round d.c. available for your 2nd round d.c.
Will take best offer (highest pick)in inbox after church (about 12:30 Eastern) or first offer received thereafter.
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106 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 11:46
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I can't self-edit my post in the keeper declaration thread. That was on a different computer and I didn't reset my ID on that one. I will not be back on that computer until Monday.
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107 | Tosh Leader
ID: 057721710 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 12:52
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Is it possible to list the difference if a change is made to an originally submitted list. I would rather just read that Vernon Wells is no longer a keeper ... rather than have to go through my sheets and try to figure it out. Thanks.
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108 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 13:34
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It's funny how many times some of these players have been traded. Bedard and Wells have both been traded yet again and both spend time on my team too.
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109 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 16:29
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[106] I whacked the older Species post.
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110 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 00:01
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Changed my mind at the lats minute and decided to keep Ervin afterall. His injury scares me though.
Looks like bmd is the only one not to declare keeps. Havne't checked CBS yet.
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111 | beastiemiked
ID: 40155223 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 00:07
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Give me a second. Pretty sure I'm keeping the 9 I posted in this thread earlier though.
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112 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 00:09
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Need to mark keepers for R9 and Slizz too on CBS. Going to switch it off auto so it doesn't drop all their players before we can mark them.
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113 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 00:43
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jaydog and yokel had unmarked their prospects. I think everyone else's was ok though.
Keepers processed. Please check your rosters.
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114 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 08:57
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Mine looks good to go.
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115 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 09:54
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Jaydog should have Corey Hart, and not Randy Johnson.
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116 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 10:33
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Switched Jaydog's keepers and added Chipper to Species'.
This happens every season and I'm glad we have the keeper discussion thread. Better sign of intent then messing up a check box or forgetting to save on the site.
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117 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 13:29
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Guru and I have discussed it and we have made an executive decision to abandon the traveling plaque in this league like we have done in our other leagues. In the other two, we purchase a bobblehead for teh champ which is drop shipped from the company with the winner's info engraved on it. We just ask that the winner take a pic of it and email it to me.
In this league we have gotten a free league bobblehead as part of our early bird special entry fee. So it only costs us shipping to the winner. We have money on file from past year(s), so our dues would only have to cover the site nad the prize pool. Since the shipping will be pretty close to the same every season, Guru will have a much easier time figuring out how much to assess each of us. Having the funds combine now should make things a little easier for him and save everyone at least a buck or two/year.
If CBS stops sending us the bobblehead, we can start dropshipping the bobblehead like we do the other sites.
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118 | Great One
ID: 46215212 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 14:05
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You know I love the bobblehead, plus we get to keep it, so thats a bonus.
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119 | beastiemiked
ID: 40155223 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 19:12
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Let's get the draft up and start rolling. Really sad that the only guy that I got anything for was Sanchez. I'm guessing at least 5 of my guys go in the 1st 2 rounds.
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120 | R9 Leader
ID: 02624472 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 19:35
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There was alot of pre-draft trade chatter, but it seems like everyone had a solid keeper group already. Was tough to find matches that fit.
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121 | darkside
ID: 151582717 Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 21:32
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The Rotoguru site is blocked at my work (luckily I can at least follow the draft using Guru's mirror site). There is one computer I can use, so I will do that when I can, but I may be sending queues to people. Thanks in advance to anyone that helps out.
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122 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 01:48
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Draft Discussion
Draft Thread
We will now switch our discussion to the draft discussion thread in the baseball leagues forum.
The draft is open and the clocks will start officially at Noon.
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