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0 Subject: RIBC 2011: Draft Discussion

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Sun, Mar 13, 2011, 14:43

The draft will be activated shortly, although the clock will not be turned on until Monday morning. The early activation is to allow people to familiarize themselves with the layout of the system, and to set up queues, as needed. (Although the clock will be off today, you are free to pick if you wish.)

We will once again use a 6 hour clock. The clock will pause between 1am and 7am ET. I know that the pause times extend late for easterners and end early for westerners, but with a 6 hour pause, this still provides a 12 hour window for any pick which extends through the pause period, which should be ample.

If you time out, the draft will move on. Skipped picks can be made up at any time thereafter. If your turn arises and you still have an outstanding skipped pick, I will probably move the draft on to the next picker. If we get well ahead of pace, I may relax that stance. But hopefully it will not become an issue. This also means that people on the turn have a single clock period to make their first pick, or both picks will be skipped.

Although the clock will be set at 6 hours, we cannot make satisfactory progress if many managers use much of that allowance. I’m hoping to average about 2 rounds (32 picks) per day, so please do your best to keep up that pace. If we fall behind, managers who are chronically slow may be put on a shorter clock. Note that the clock will not be suspended on weekends.

We will use this thread for logistical communications, to help others anticipate potential delays, to recruit someone to accept a queue, to announce or solicit trades, and to coordinate changes in the clock. Please check this thread regularly throughout the draft, as we will rely on it as the primary means of communication among RIBC managers.

Established draft etiquette is that no undrafted player names should be mentioned either here or in the rationale threads, and in the event of an infraction, should be edited out.

After two rounds have been completed, a separate draft rationale thread will be started. We will try to keep that thread on a 2 round lag. Therefore, after you make your pick in round 3, please immediately post your round 1 pick rationale, and so forth. I usually draft my rationales as I make picks, so that all I need to do when the time comes is copy and paste. I recommend that approach for everyone.

You may draft a player even if he is not currently listed on Yahoo. In that event, you will have the first rights to claim that player when he is listed, as long as you preserve that roster slot for him (for which an inactive placeholder player will be assigned).

Once the draft is completed, you will no longer be able to protect a slot for any unlisted player. At that point, unlisted players will only be available through the standard Yahoo waiver/free agent process.

When you select a player, please list him at the position that you primarily expect to use him. Of course, these positions are not binding, and are only indicative of your anticipated usage. Yahoo position eligibilities will be used throughout the season.

In order to keep the draft moving at an acceptable pace, please make active use of queues if you expect to be unavailable when it is your turn. Recent drafts have gone very smoothly due primarily to the active use of queues. This year, the software offers many enhancements for queuing, including round-specific queues, autopicks, and time-delay autopicks. For more details, see the help page at draftime.com. If you don’t understand something, please ask here.

In addition to auto-picks, the draft software still allows you to set up a queue and to make that queue available to any other manager who you authorize as a designated picker. Be aware that, as commish, I am automatically authorized as a DP for everyone. Your queue will not be visible to your DPs (or me) until it is your turn to pick, and you may specify whether the entire queue should be visible, or only the top name. However, if you do not make your queue "available", then no one (including me) will be able to see it when it is your turn. If you want your queue to be used by a DP or by me, then please be sure that you have it set as available. If you do not want your queue used, then be sure to make it unavailable. If it is your turn and a queue is available to me, I will make that pick for you unless you have posted explicit instructions to the contrary in this thread.

The draft will last for 25 rounds. You are not required to draft a player for every position.
1MBT
      ID: 17259721
      Sun, Mar 13, 2011, 17:44
Hmmm, all the guys I planned on taking at 16 are flying off the board. What to do, what to do...
2filthy
      Sustainer
      ID: 568191312
      Sun, Mar 13, 2011, 19:42
i still got 5 of my top 10 out there...
3Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 14, 2011, 11:25
I used to have a program set up that would display both the draft results and the draft grid on a single page, but I haven't been able to get that working yet, due to some technical issues with the draftime site. So for now, you'll have to use separate draftime links to do that.

To see the draft picks listed sequentially, use this URL:
http://www.draftime.com/draft_all_picks.php?peek=true&draft_id=11

For the draft grid, you can use this link:
http://www.draftime.com/draft_grid_external.php?draft_id=11

Comparable links can be used for any of the four RIBC qualifying league drafts by substituting the appropriate draft_id at the end of the URL:
AAA draft_ids: 19 & 21
AA draft ids: 22 & 23

4 MBT
      ID: 191142515
      Mon, Mar 14, 2011, 15:19
I have a Q set up, but unless I set up the autodraft (which I may have, I don't remember) please don't make my picks for rounds 1 and 2. If it is set up for autodraft, then that's fine, move forward with the draft. Otherwise I'd like a chance to assess how the draft's progressed before making my picks. I should be home by around 5:30 CST. Thanks
5Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 09:26
I just set up the Rationale thread. Start posting them once we get to the start of round 3.
6Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 11:36
Remember, if you want your queue to be used, you must either make it "available to pickers", or else set it to auto-pick. Both of those options appear in the page where you set the queue (in the "Queue settings" row of options).

If you have names in a queue but it is unavailable and autopick is off, then it will not be used for your next pick.
8MBT
      ID: 191142515
      Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 13:56
Guru, if there's anybody left in my Q when it gets back to me in round 3 please don't post the pick. For some reason I was able to log into my home computer from work this morning, but now I'm shut out. Allow me some time to assess the draft progress, thanks. I'm usually home by about 5:30 CST.
9Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 14:17
If you are locked out of draftime from work, you might want to try installing some other software on your home computer that allows you to access it from work.

I use the free version of LogMeIn.com for this. Don't know if your office has some sort of security against that site, of course.
12MBT
      ID: 191142515
      Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 14:44
I've actually got some software that allows me to get into my computer from work, but for some reason I'm not logged in anymore. I was able to get in at around 9:00 this morning with no problem, but now I'm logged out. I'll have to trouble shoot the issue.
13Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 14:55
Thanks to some assistance from KKB, I've been able to get my RotoGuru version of the draft tracking up to speed. You can now follow the draft with this URL: http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/kpeek.pl?11
Grid is at the top, sequential list follows that.

If you are locked out from draftime.com but can access rotoguru1.com, you can still follow the draft. MBT - you can email your pick to me when your turn is due, if it's significantly earlier than 5:30.

14Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 17:38
Now that I have direct access from the rotoguru server to draftime, I can resurrect my program that sends out each pick as either an email or as a text message.

Essentially, each time a pick is made, you would receive an email or text message in this format:
RIBC: 3.13 Utley, Chase, 2B, PHI by kokeshi777

If you have it sent to an email address, that should appear as the subject. If sent as a text message, that will be the message.

Note that if you have these sent as text messages, each pick will count as one out-of-network message. With 300+ picks to go, don't use text messages unless you can handle the marginal cost of that many out-of-network messages.

If you want to be included, send me (davehall@rotoguru2.com) your message destination(s) - email address, cell phone #, or both. If it's a cell phone, you also need to tell me your cell phone carrier.

I hope to have this up and running by the end of the night.
21MBT
      ID: 191142515
      Wed, Mar 16, 2011, 09:29
s R, I'm really not liking sitting behind you in the draft so far. You're two for two in the steals category. I had Wright and Ellsbury all lined up only to see them disappear.
22s R
      ID: 559462411
      Wed, Mar 16, 2011, 12:13
MBT, you could have selected a lower draft position...:)
43holt
      ID: 582531715
      Thu, Mar 17, 2011, 16:54
I hate my Aaron Hill pick. Started getting busy at work and i just had to pick. He better have a great season. I was set to take Furcal or at least Huff but I got screwed. Should have just kept waiting on MI.
118Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 10:35
Our pace is very good, averaging under 45 minutes per pick. We should finish this weekend. Thanks to everyone for doing your best to keep it all moving.
119Graydog
      ID: 260361718
      Tue, Mar 22, 2011, 11:00
I agree the pace is great, sorry about the time on my last pick i meant to leave my queue on auto.
148holt
      ID: 352302314
      Wed, Mar 23, 2011, 15:30
I guess I don't understand how to use the general queue. Thought I had it set.
149Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Mar 23, 2011, 15:41
You did have it set properly. I figured I'd wait an hour before using it, since our pace was so good.

Plus, if you simply want the top name taken from your queue no matter what, I'd expect you to use the auto-pick feature. I wasn't sure why you hadn't used that feature.

Ergo, I decided to give it an hour.
152holt
      ID: 352302314
      Wed, Mar 23, 2011, 16:06
Ahhh, now I see the auto-pick button, Don't know how I missed that. Thanks again. And the Seth Smith rationale should be 19.14, not 19.13.
155Graydog
      ID: 260361718
      Wed, Mar 23, 2011, 18:36
RE - 9.09 Nate McLouth, OF, ATL
I couldn't be happier with this 19th round selection - he's 29 and in 2008-2009, he averaged 100 runs, 80 RBI, 21 SB at .350/.460. Lord knows what happened to him last year - I'm banking on some rare form of athletic amnesia.

thats the best rational to date Kdl, could be a phenomenon to be studied further based on the amount of athletes who seem to experience it at some point.
160Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 13:20
warehousing for graydog

20.05 Jake Peavy SP, CHW
Current injury appears to be minor, there is talk today that he could be ready early April. I am hoping for 150 innings of contribution in all 4 categories. I figured he is worth the risk at this point in the draft.

21.12 Derek Holland, SP, Tex
I dont know alot about Holland other than he is pitching well in the spring and appears to have a starting spot in Texas.

22.05 Bill Hall, 2B, Hou
I wanted another MI, Hall also gives me some OF flexibility. He hit 18 home runs in just 344 Ab last year. Hopefully with a full time gig he can give me solid power numbers from MI.
161kdl212
      ID: 361121615
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 13:36
22.08 David Murphy, OF, TEX
In the Texas outfield are two guys with an injury history (one of whom, Cruz, is on my roster) and a center fielder who apparently isn't very good with the glove, so there's talk Murphy will get extra playing time even if Hamilton/Cruz stay healthy. And if they trade Young, maybe he gets DH time. If he gives me 400 at bats at .350/.450 with 10 stolen bases, I can't complain.
162Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 13:48
As you complete your draft, please put your remaining rationales in this thread.

I'll move them over in sequence.
163loki
      SuperDude
      ID: 4211201420
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 15:43
22.14-Bobby Parnell, RP, NYM
Parnell replaced Francisco Rodriquez after his meltdown and suspension last year. If the Mets trade him or if he is injured, Parnell could close.
164MBT
      ID: 191142515
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 16:20
17.16 Javier Vazquez, SP, Fla – Back in the National League and we all know what that means, improved numbers! His K rate never seems to drop significantly and his ERA is almost guaranteed to improve by moving to the Marlins lineup. I'd like to get a 3.80 ERA and 170 Ks out of him this year.

18.01 Travis Wood, SP, Cin – Still looking to round out some starting pitching and Wood had a very nice second half last year. 80+ Ks in a little over 100 innings makes for nice ratios and kid had a 1.08 WHIP last season. He’s in a bit of a log jam of pitchers in Cincy, but he should make his way through the mess.

19.16 John Jaso, C, Tam – This is an OBP league and getting a catcher who knows how to take a walk is essential. I was going to grab Soto, but was beaten to the punch so I went for the upside of Jaso. What’s the worst that can happen? I dump him for the latest catcher of the week.

20.01 Dustin Ackley, 2B/OF, Sea – Ackley has primarily played MI during his minor league career so it surprised me that Yahoo has him listed as an outfielder. He’s likely to start the year in the minors, but I can’t see how they can keep this kid down for very long. He’s got good plate discipline and he’s known to have a little pop in that bat as well. Not a bad investment this late in the draft.
165JKaye
      Leader
      ID: 01372359
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 18:39
20.16 Michael Pineda, SP, SEA,

Pineda looks like he will nab a rotation spot, which is likely more than half the battle for him in terms of being relevant in fantasy. He had a fantastic year at AAA last year and is poised to make a run at AL ROY. His solid K/BB ratio and the benefit of pitching in Seattle could make Pineda a breakout SP in 2011.

21.01 Jose Lopez, 2B/3B, COL

I'm not thrilled with Lopez, who was terrible in 2010, but the fact that he is moving to 2B and to Colorado gives him a little boost in value. He now becomes my default backup 3B as well as a MI/CI candidate. Not a great pick by any means but considering the remaining options, I am hopeful he will re-find the stroke in Coors that made him relevant in 2009.
166JKaye
      Leader
      ID: 01372359
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 18:45
22.16 David Dejesus, OF, OAK

The Oakland offense should be improved this year and I expect Dejesus will be right in the middle of it. I have a feeling he will be a stable player for me, with limited upside.

23.01 Rafael Betancourt, RP, COL,

He was my top RP remaining. He won't compete for saves but his underlying numbers should benefit my pitching staff.
167JKaye
      Leader
      ID: 01372359
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 18:47
24.16 Kerry Wood, RP, CHC

Wood had a very good 2nd half for NYY last year and will now serve as set-up man for Marmol (along with Marshall). Would not surprise me to see him contribute a handful of W and SV, and hopefully his WHIP stays low enough to make it worth it.

25.01 Derek Lowe, SP, ATL

Lowe is a reliable starter slated to pitch opening day for Atlanta. It's the 25th round so that is about as much reason as I need.
168Uptown Bombers
      ID: 318502217
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 19:56
21.04 Juan Rivera, 1B/OF, TOR
Some more roster flexibility, as Rivera has dual eligibility. After a down year, I’m hoping Rivera bounces back to something useful. Hopefully last year was not the beginning of a serious drop off. Something inbetween ’09 and ’10 stats would be fantastic.
169Uptown Bombers
      ID: 318502217
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 19:56
22.13 Kyle Drabek, SP, TOR
I knew I wanted to draft 6 starters so this round I began to look around at who was left that I liked. I spent most of the round convincing myself to pick UNDRAFTED but then later decided to take Drabek, who presents much more upside. Drabek was less than sensational last year after his call up, but he was a major prospect and has been pitching well this spring. Perhaps this is not the year that Drabek starts to put things together, but in round 22 the risk is minimal. If Drabek lives up the billing of his minor league numbers and reputation then I will have gotten lucky.
170Uptown Bombers
      ID: 318502217
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 19:56
23.04 Brad Hawpe, 1B/OF, SD
A late round flier for RBi and SLG. Moving to Petco will likely hurt his stats, but the splits show that Hawpe was not simply the product of Coors. Outside of last year, Hawpe has put up pretty good road OPS and power.
171Uptown Bombers
      ID: 318502217
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 19:56
24.13 Kevin Jepsen, RP
At this point, the draft was moving too fast for to keep pace. I set a queue for round 23 but had no clue what players I was targeting after that. After a flurry of picks, I had no time before or during work to figure things out. I knew I wanted another MR and just took one that came to mind as having good K rates.
172Uptown Bombers
      ID: 318502217
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 19:57
25.04 Chris Davis, 1B, TEX
I’ve been keeping an eye on him ever since my Mitch Moreland pick because I research that, I read how well Davis was playing in the spring. As of now, he has no spot in the lineup, but any of a few things could change that: Young gets traded, Moreland struggles, UNDRAFTED gets replaced. Since I’m just trying to take a stab in the dark at cheap power numbers, I figured this pick made some sense.
173loki
      SuperDude
      ID: 4211201420
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 20:27

23.03-Macier Izturis, MI, ANA
Needed my last MI, and Izturis was the best of the least.


24.14-Belisle, Matt, RP, COL
As with 22.14 I wanted a RP who would close if an injury occurred to the starter. Houston Street has this history, and if injured, Belise should close.



25.03-Ryan Ludwick, OF, SD
It was between another RP who would take over if the starting closer was injured and someone to help my anemic power categories. I am hoping for a bounce back season from Ludwick. If he can come close to his 2008 and 2009 seasons, he will be a bargain in the 25th round.







174 gurudan
      ID: 92442419
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 20:44
pick 20.12 brandon belt 2nd base sf yahoo's golden rookie

21.05 taylor buchholz rp mets this guy was lights out 2 years ago in colo. hope he can recapure that stuff. this spring 9 ip no er's

22.12 autie rhodes rp tex another boss middle reliever. led me to a 2nd place finish last year. played football in high school with another autie rhodes
175 gurudan
      ID: 92442419
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 20:50
23.05 russ martin c nyy i need a backup catcher.

24.12 mark derosa in previous years he's been productive. he's versatile, so hope he's recovered from injuries

25.05 cody ross of sf with 2 trades i'll the entire frisco team
176Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 47227122
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 20:52
21.06 Johnny Damon, OF, TB
In my previous rationale, I stated that my lineup was filled. Well, in retrospect, I still had an open utility position - d'oh. So, I was looking for someone that could contribute. Damon may end up being that player - despite his advanced age (it pains me to say that, as I'm actually a bit older than he is), he still gets on base regularly and should score a good number of runs. Maybe he'll be re-energized now that he's back in his old AL-East stomping ground.

22.11 Orlando Hudson, 2b, SD
We're approaching the final stages. I'm not particularly comfortable with my stable of middle infielders, so I'm trying to get some depth. Looking at the rosters, there's still some teams without all three starting MI's. So,I wanted to go ahead and grab Hudson here. Reports have him batting third in the lineup.

23.06 John Buck, C, Fla
I already have Ruiz as my starting catcher, but thought I might like some insurance. Buck is a decent option, so I may be able to ride the hot hand. Buck offers more power than Ruiz but nowhere need the on base percentage.

24.11 Garrett Jones, 1b/Of, Pit
It sounds like Jones may be the odd man out in Pittsburgh. His numbers did show a big decline after earning every-day duties a year ago. I like that he's eligible at CI and OF, so offers me some flexibility. He may be in a platoon situation, which may be something I can take advantage of as well. Nothing wrong with selecting a guy at these late stages who had helped me out in the past.

25.06 Desmond Jennings, OF, TB
I took a flyer here on a guy currently in the minors. He stole 37 bases and reached base at a .362 clip in AAA last year. Whether I hold on to him by the time he gets called up midyear will depend on the health of the rest of my roster.
177holt
      ID: 3044420
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 21:14
MJD: "But I look at Tony La Rusa as the Bill Belichik of MLB. Should Franklin go through a rough patch, just about anyone, including Mott, could be the next closer."

lmao! so true. But, as a redbirds fan, I wish you hadn't pointed it out. Going to have a hard time forgetting that one, but good call.
178kokeshis
      ID: 3321634
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 21:49
Draft Rationales

13. Needed a shortstop and Cabrera seemed to be the best on left on the board.

14. Needed a starter and I thought Santana was the best available.

15. With injured or injury prone players at 1st base, second base and third base Wigginton was the perfect back up.

16 Staying with the high upside injured theme of the draft. Beltran is still only 33 and a couple years removed from top level outfield production

17. Needed a middle infielder and Peralta’s multi position eligibility helps back up my injured players.

18. Needed a corner guy, probably let the Seattle bias influence the choice.

19. Needed another outfielder and Guterirez brings a little speed and consistency.

20. Needed a fifth starter and I think Baker just had an off year last year If he gets that whip back to just below 1.2 which is the pitcher he looked like the last couple years he is a good value.

21. Needed a middle reliever, and I don’t really trust Fuentes to hold down the closing job if Bailey is injury gets more serious.

22. Just looking to fill out the bullpen.

23. Another flier corner guy hoping he keeps up what he showed last year and is a good value here.
179Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 23:09
warehousing for ywk

21.11 Kenley Jansen, RP, LAD
He should be in the mix of competing for SVs should Broxton falter, and could be at least offering some help in WHIP and K.

22.06 Ivan Nova, SP, NYY
Well, I could not imagine me taking NYY's pitcher as I never root for them. However, considering a large part of my pitching staff remains a big question mark I tried to add some insurance to it as Nova has been in the starting rotation to begin the season.
180Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 24, 2011, 23:10
warehousing for ywk

19.11 Clay Hensley, RP, Fla
He should be backing to the setup man role at the beginning of the season and MAY recapture the closer position should Leo Nunez struggle as the season progresses. Take him as a handcuff to Nunez as he has proven he is capable of closing the door.

20.06 Jack Cust OF, SEA
As we are in an OBP league, Cust does have some values. Actually, I originally targeted Hideki Matsui with my 19th pick, prompting me to tweak my plan (if any) to grab another reliever. Hope he could draw more walks rather than swing for nothing.
181MBT
      ID: 191142515
      Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 09:51
21.16 Lindstrom, Matt (COL) – Looking to handcuff my Houston Street pick with this one. Lindstrom’s ratios stink so he probably won’t see the light of day on this team unless something happens to Street. I was also targeting Saito in this round, but he was swept out from under me a few picks earlier.

22.01 McDonald, James (PIT) – What can I say about the next big Pittsburgh phenom? The kid struck out 61 in only 64 innings last year, that’s a pretty nice return on investment. Even if his stats were a fluke and he turns back into a pumpkin this year I can pick up waiver wire fodder at this point in the draft.

23.16 Thole, Josh (NYM) – He’s been named the starting catcher with the Mets and he’s been raking all spring. He’s not a power bat, but at catcher I’m just looking for someone who can provide a good OBP and maybe get 50 runs and 50 RBIs. I always end up with 50 games of unused playing time at the catcher position so I like to pick up a second catcher to start on off days.

24.01 Garland, Jon (LAD) – Nothing fancy, just a NL West pitcher in a pitcher friendly home park. He’ll be a spot starter for me, but he should be good for 15 wins, 130 K, and 3.70 ERA. His WHIP leaves a lot to be desired as it is traditionally over 1.30, but once again at this point in the draft I can always go swimming in the FA pool.
182kdl212
      ID: 361121615
      Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 13:53
23.09 Joel Peralta, RP, TB
Looking to take a flyer on one more relief pitcher who might get save opportunities or who will be a prime candidate to drop early. Kyle Farnsworth simply cannot hold the job down, and someone else will have to get a chance. Maybe it will be Peralta. And maybe he runs with it. More likely, I turn Peralta into the remarkably undrafted [undrafted] before opening day even arrives.

24.08 Carlos Guillen, DL, DET
Never mind. Now Carlos Guillen will be the first person I drop, as soon as I can, in order to pick up the remarkably undrafted [undrafted]. When I was making the pick, I was looking for a backup 2B, but I think I'm just going all-in on Beckham.

25.09 Jim Thome, DH, MIN
Absurd numbers last year at the age of 63. (1.039 OPS! 48 runs and 59 RBI in 275 at-bats!) Since I own Morneau, and it's not clear he's going to be an everyday player in April if he's even on the roster, maybe Thome gets regular at-bats. I suspect that he is really Jacob's other friend, the "Man in the DH slot," and he will agelessly crush baseballs every year for the next 1,000 years.

Nearly drafted [undrafted] and [undrafted], each of whom I was shocked to still see available when I, for the first time this draft, looked through the entire list before making this pick. I was relying on the fact that you all are much more thorough about this, with updating spreadsheets and whatnot, and that no one had slipped through any cracks. I think I was wrong.
183MBT
      ID: 191142515
      Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 15:09
25.16 Mike Moustakas, 3B, KC - Here he is, Mr. Irrelevant, well I hope not anyhow. The guy hit 36 HR last season in the minors and the Royals can only keep this kid down for so long. I expect to see him up by late May and I could use the backup at 3B considering A-Rod's injury history. If he doesn't get called up or I need the spot earlier than expected I can always drop him for a more established player. I debated between him and another player who's starting on the DL, but Mous has the higher upside.
184mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 17:19
21.02 Dan Johnson 1B, TAM

See LaPorta, Matt. Though Johnson actually may be more valuable in the stronger Rays lineup and have a better chance to stick on my team if he contributes his projected OBP and SLG percentages. Additional 3B eligibility a plus in an otherwise shallow position.


22.15 Chris Young SP, NYM

With Cueto probably on the DL to start the season, I thought I’d take a stab in the dark and draft Young to have him on hand to spot start in the cavernous Citi Field.


23.02 Jerry Hairston Jr, IF, OF, WAS

Couldn’t decide on an infielder or an outfielder for this spot, so I took the combo platter. Hairston will begin the season as the backup MI for the Nats, but I’ll use him as bench depth for OF, as well. Given enough ABs, he’s capable of producing double digit HRs and SBs. Actual playing time, and replacement production will be the key to sticking with my squad vs being dropped for an undrafted waver wire flavor of the week.
185Graydog
      ID: 260361718
      Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 20:28
23.12 Micheal Brantley, OF, CLE
Is going to lead off in Cleveland to start the year. If he can get on base like he has in the minors and at the end of last year should provide me with plenty of steals and runs.

24.05 R.A. Dickey, SP, NYM
I think that if Dickey was not a knuckballer he would have been drafted earlier. Doesnt strike out many but if he can locate that knuckler the way he did last year he should be useful in era and whip, if not someone on the waiver wire will be added.

25.12 Michael Gonzalez, RP, BAL
needed another RP.
186filthy
      Sustainer
      ID: 568191312
      Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 20:50
15.10 Chipper Jones, 3B, ATL
Will bat cleanup whenever he plays. Probably be rested, but used as a pinch hitter a couple times a week. But Chipper is not my starter, he is a backup CI, so anything he does is gravy.

At the expense of building on pitching depth, but I still am unsure where to begin on my next tier of pitching depth at this point anyways.

Morrison, Crisp, Venters, Rauch all would have been considered were they around. Joyce, RSoriano, Chapman, Kuo were also on my queue at the time.


16.07 Matt Joyce, OF, TB
My outfield list was really getting bare at this time and I still need a 4th. Quite glad that Joyce made it back to me. Great second half last year with a 3/4 timeshare. If he starts hot, could bat 5th and avoid being platooned.

Rays traded EJackson for him at one point, and 2011 is Joyce's turn to prove the Rays front office is brilliant yet again.


17.10 Chris Sale, RP, CWS
Three starters and one reliever after 16 rounds is starting to get scary. Especially when the one reliever might not even close, and my top 3 relief options have all been drafted since I last picked.

Gotta get back in on the reliever train again. Chris Sale doesn't get the closer job out of spring, but he could easily flip spots with Thornton at some point in the season.

I will settle for the nice K/9 and rates if he settles in as a setup man.


18.07 Tyler Clippard, RP, WAS
This may be the year my closer luck runs out. Gotta cheat and get some insurance just in case. I don't see any great options in the Nats pen, but I believe I have the best two.

Still don't know if that is good or bad.

Lots of K's from Clippard either way at least. Really snoozed on Stauffer, he was drafted before I even knew I wanted to draft him.


19.10 Hideki Matsui, DH, OAK
Matsui was great in the second half last year. A recurring theme to my draft so far, hopefully it pays off. A little worried about the move to Oakland's offense, but he wasn't exactly in a great situation to end last year either.

Ideally Matsui, CJones, and my backup MI will be rotating as my Util.

Realistically, I am building up some valuable depth for my offense.

Recently donated to the Japan relief effort, hoping for a great season from all Japanese ML players as well. These guys will all give their nation extra reason to be proud this season. Ichiro and Matsui will hopefully end up as two of the biggest steals of our draft. (One team will agree with me at least!)


187filthy
      Sustainer
      ID: 568191312
      Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 06:03
20.07 Jason Bartlett, SS, SD
Haven't considered MI in quite a long time. Have filled every other spot, just need a backup MI and/or backup C.

Bartlett sticks out like a sore thumb and immediately goes to the top of my queue. LOVE the b.u.t.t feature on the draftime queues this year!

If Bartlett is one of those every other year types, then I hit the jackpot. If he hits like last year, he will make for decent MI insurance.

Lowrie, Motte, Pineda were nice options that I passed on. Hensley and EYJr were solid choices that I didn't get to consider.


21.10 Jordan Walden, RP, LAA
My queue took a beating for adding Bartlett to the top. Must fill out the staff now, and maybe get a backup catcher at some point.

Pineda, Motte, Saito were who I had been hoping for. I still need 1-2 more tickets in the closer lottery, and the volatile Rodney doesn't really seem to have an immediate threat looming.

If Walden can match or improve on his 15.1IP, 20 baserunners, 23 strikeouts audition, then he might steal the job by May.


22.07 Juan Gutierrez, RP, ARI
Holland, Balfour, and Dotel might turn out to be nice picks. Gutierrez had been at the top of my queue before I replenished around the 19th round.

After I picked Walden, he moved back to the top again. Putz is hurting, and there are a few good options in the Dbacks pen this year. Gutierrez ended the season converting some chances though, so I'd think he's the favourite to fill in.

I was 4/5 in last year's bullpen lottery, with 2 safe picks, 1 slight favourite, and 2 underdog picks. (HBell, Jenks; Aardsma; Lindstrom, Downs) Hoping to go 3/5 this year with no safe picks, 1 slight favourite, and his hedge. i.e. zero chance of hitting 5/5.

I've never drafted an offense that I liked so much though, so if I go 0/5 I'll manage.

Time for a couple starters, Morrow is looking like he will start the season on the DL. SON OF A DIDDLY!!!!


23.10 Jon Niese, SP, NYM
I hope that Niese has recovered from the inning buildup last year. He started to really fade, but hopefully nothing mentally or physically was damaged when the Mets let him get hit around to end the season.

If the inning buildup gets him to top 200 innings this year, and those innings look more like the June/July version of Niese than the August/September version then I will be very happy.

But seriously, who lets a young lefty start seven times in a month?!?? They're gonna turn a potential Lilly into a Zito if they ride this kid hard again this year. Maybe Billy Beane is ahead of the curve once again though, ride those arms while they're fresh and build up their value so someone else is paying them big bucks once they break down. Either way, I don't think my team has as much to lose as the Mets do. I get to redraft next year, hopefully in the same league...

I was strongly considering Murphy, Harang and CYoung behind Gutierrez last time. If Niese didn't last, I was debating between Porcello and Cecil.

Luckily they all lasted, cause this draft has been flying! My queue is a trainwreck behind the top 3.


24.07 Rick Porcello, SP, DET
Just covering bases I guess. Last round I went with the guy who faded in September. This round, I'll go with the guy who had a nice September. 28IP, 2BB!!

The K's might even show up as Porcello gains confidence and experience. The pedigree is there, and there is much less pressure this time around now that Scherzer has arrived and leapfrogged him.


25.10 Brett Cecil, SP, TOR
And back to the September fades. Not as good as Niese but nearly the same story. Lower K's and facing tougher offenses, but wasn't abused as badly. And (please please please!!!!) with a much better offense supporting him again this year.

Cecil has been roughly matching David Price's career, one year later, all throughout their rises. I hope the trend continues.

Love the Thome pick, I went with him in the last round last year, and it would've paid off if I wasn't impatient. Was debating also on: Norris, Arencibia, Johan, DiceK.

Nice drafting everybody. Fun times.

PS: Go check out Seattle Zen's rationales in one of the AAA leagues, excellent reads.
188s R
      ID: 559462411
      Sun, Mar 27, 2011, 13:37
21.15 Octavio Dotel, RP, Tor

Digging for saves I find him. Now's not a good time to trust Dotel to a bench spot.

22.02 Tyler Colvin, OF, ChC

Colvin has the power and wheels for stardom. But the sad part is that the Cubs have four viable outfielders and just three starting spots, so Colvin will be fighting for his at-bats.

23.15 Mark Lowe, RP, Tex

Digging for saves... If Feliz is taken out of the closer role for the regular season...

24.02 Jarrod Saltalamacchia, C, Bos

He is penciled in as the starting catcher for the Red Sox for the season. Since he will bat in the bottom of a stacked lineup he will get RBI opportunities with the players above him on base.

25.15 Bud Norris, SP, Hou

If he can get his ERA down into the low fours, The 'Stros view Norris as a workhorse for there.





189Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 27, 2011, 15:32
for ywk

19.11 Clay Hensley, RP, Fla
He should be backing to the setup man role at the beginning of the season and MAY recapture the closer position should Leo Nunez struggle as the season progresses. Take him as a handcuff to Nunez as he has proven he is capable of closing the door.

20.06 Jack Cust OF, SEA
As we are in an OBP league, Cust does have some values. Actually, I originally targeted Hideki Matsui with my 19th pick, prompting me to tweak my plan (if any) to grab another reliever. Hope he could draw more walks rather than swing for nothing.
190Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 27, 2011, 20:35
Still a few more rationales to be completed. You know who you are!
191Seattle Zen
      Leader
      ID: 055343019
      Sun, Mar 27, 2011, 20:40
PS: Go check out Seattle Zen's rationales in one of the AAA leagues, excellent reads.

Thanks, filthy. I think Jason Bartlett will work out for you just fine.
192holt
      ID: 3044420
      Mon, Mar 28, 2011, 01:00
21.14 Travis Hafner, DH, Cle

Nothing fancy here. Hafner had an .826 OPS in '09 and .824 in '10. He can help me out if he continues hitting at that level.


22.03 Brett Wallace, 1B, Hou

He's a starting 1B with a decent minor league track record. He needs to have a good April or I'm going to cut him. He showed decent power and average in the minors but he doesn't draw a lot of walks. If major league pitchers keep carving him up (.615 OPS 144 AB last season) he will be off my squad pronto.


23.14 Russell "the Muscle" Branyan, 1B, Ari

I don't think Arizona wanted him as a starting 1B but he's hitting like Babe Ruth this spring. I don't think he's left them much choice. I've had Branyan on a lot of teams before and he's a good one to start as long as he's healthy. It's recently been announced that he made the team, but it's not yet clear how many AB's he'll get. I need CI depth so I'll take a shot here.


24.03 Brent Morel, 3B, CWS

Kind of like Brett Wallace. Decent prospect with a starting job, decent minor league stats, but doesn't take enough walks. I really don't expect him to pan out and I'm not planning on being very patient with him.


25.14 Wilson Betemit, 3B, KC

He's only eligible at 3B right now, but he may pick up some more positions by the end of the year. He doesn't have a regular starting role, but his OPS was pushing .900 in over 300 PA last season. He plays for the Royals. They will need to get his bat in the lineup somehow. He's fairly versatile and the Royals have some sh*t hitters so I'm thinking he should get over 300 AB again.

It's hard to take any of these late rd picks seriously. Looking back through rationales of previous years, the vast majority never pan out, and the ones that do usually get cut early and picked up by another team before it's clear that they're having a good year.
193kokeshis
      ID: 3321634
      Mon, Mar 28, 2011, 05:14
24.04

Was hoping to get some late round power at 1st, if Branyon gets injured (which is not unlikely) Miranda should get close to full starting time.

25.13

Needed another catcher for when Napoli sits on the bench, I thought Molina would be the best bet left to play regularly.
194MBT
      ID: 191142515
      Mon, Mar 28, 2011, 09:50
Guru, any idea when teams will be in Yahoo?
195Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 28, 2011, 10:03
The draft has been entered into Yahoo, and the league is now live. All undrafted players are on waivers, and waiver priorities are the reverse of the draft order.

Please review your roster to make sure I have given you the players you drafted. If there is an error, let me know.

All players are on your bench. To put them in your lineup, go to March 31 and start dragging and dropping!

If you still have rationales overdue, please post them ASAP.
196MBT
      ID: 191142515
      Mon, Mar 28, 2011, 10:14
Thanks you Guru and KKB for all your hard work through this process. My team looks to be accurate.
197Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 28, 2011, 12:17
I think these are now the only missing rationales.

coldwater coyotes
20.09 A. Soriano
21.08 McClellan
22.09 W. Davis
23.08 Trumbo
24.09 Niemann
25.08 Burnett

loki
19.03 A. Gonzalez
198loki
      SuperDude
      ID: 4211201420
      Mon, Mar 28, 2011, 20:12
Thought I had posted it.

19.03-Alex Gonzalez, SS, ATL
I still needed a SS and MI, and I liked Gonzalez the best among those remaining.
199coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Tue, Mar 29, 2011, 14:05
20.09 Alfonso Soriano, OF, ChC
Coming to the end of his career but still good for .815 OPS and 74 RBI. Solid reserve for my bench and will be available to replace the JD Drew during his inevitable weeks off.
200coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Tue, Mar 29, 2011, 14:08
21.08 Kyle McClellan, SP, STL
Will be starting on a very strong team. Unlikely to go more than 120 innings during the year but could be this year's CJ Wilson.
201coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Tue, Mar 29, 2011, 14:11
22.09 Wade Davis, SP, TB
Ended last season very well. Strong potential. I like picking SPs at the end of drafts who have high upsides.
202coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Tue, Mar 29, 2011, 14:13
23.08 Mark Trumbo, 1B, LAA
News about Kendrys from the Angels does not look very promising. Trumbo should get plenty ABs during the first few weeks of the season. High upside but could easily go the way of Chris Davis.
203coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Tue, Mar 29, 2011, 14:18
24.09 Jeff Niemann, SP, Tam
His ranking has gone this year as a result of last year's injury. He could well take a large step forward in 2011. Another SP with good upside potential.
204coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Tue, Mar 29, 2011, 14:20
25.09 Sean Burnett, RP, Was
There are reports that Burnett could be used as a co-closer. Worth taking a gamble on in round 25.
205Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Mar 30, 2011, 09:50
Rationales are now complete. Thanks to everyone - especially those of you who clearly put some effort and thought into them.

I'll open a new thread for regular season discussion momentarily. This thread is now closed.
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