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Subject: RIBC 2015: Getting started
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 11:38
I have sent out 16 invitations for the 2015 RotoGuru Invitational Baseball Challenge. All 16 have responded with a commitment to play.
As background, the RIBC invitations went to the top 6 in last year’s RIBC (excluding me), plus the top three teams in each of the two AAA leagues, plus one of the 4th place AAA teams, plus two winners of the AA leagues (one was a tie, but the other AA winner was a duplicate winner, ineligible for promotion), plus me.
Here are the 16 managers in the 2015 RIBC:
RIBC returnees: mailedfoot, holt, JeffG, kdl212, evan, beastiemiked
AAA promotions: Tosh, youngroman, RotoGuru Jr, filthy, RJ, Uptown Bombers, ksoze
AA promotions: Dave R, graydog
Me: Guru
The first regular season MLB game is on April 5, so I do not expect to start the draft until March 17th or thereabouts. We will select our draft order sometime in early March.
The league will again be hosted at ESPN, and the draft will be hosted at draftime.com. Registration info for both sites will be sent out shortly via email.
Are there any suggestions for changes in league rules that we should consider before we begin to prepare for the draft?
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| 1 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 13:08
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ESPN and Draftime registration info has been sent out via email. Check your spam folder if you don't see them.
RIBC managers who are continuing in this league without any change in email address will not receive an ESPN invite, as you are automatically re-joined. But please check your ESPN fantasy baseball teams to make sure your RIBC 2015 team is listed.
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| 2 | twilson
ID: 36222109
Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 16:13
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Though I was relegated to AAA this year, I do have a suggestion I would like to make. I propose that RIBC switch its draft order format to Banzai-style. Despite the name, this format is actually pretty simple to explain. Banzai drafts are exactly the same as traditional snake drafts, except that the third round is flipped. In other words, the person going last in Round 1 gets to go first in Rounds 2, 3 and 4. The owner who has the first overall pick doesn’t start a round again until Round 5. The traditional snake format overvalues the top few draft slots at the expense of those further down. By flipping the selection order in the third round, this imbalance is significantly reduced. It is clear that a strong bias exists toward slots at the start of the draft. To get a sense of historical RIBC trends, I went back and looked at the last five years of RIBC draft order drafts. Since 2010, Slot #1 has been chosen first in four out of five years. This behavior is not limited to the initial selection. When in possession of a top three draft order draft position, owners have chosen Slot #1, #2, or #3 on fourteen of fifteen occasions. Only six owners have voluntarily drafted in the bottom half of the order when drawn into the top half of the ordering, a measly 15%. If all slots offered equivalent value, that percentage would be 50%. Below is a table showing the average slot selected by the owner with the specified draft ordering. The trend is clear: | Ordering | Average Slot (2010-14) |
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| 1 | 1.4 | | 2 | 2.8 | | 3 | 2.4 | | 4 | 6.8 | | 5 | 6.8 | | 6 | 4.6 | | 7 | 9.0 | | 8 | 9.2 | | 9 | 8.0 | | 10 | 11.2 | | 11 | 12.4 | | 12 | 12.8 | | 13 | 10.8 | | 14 | 11.8 | | 15 | 13.4 | | 16 | 12.6 |
If you have doubts about the viability of the format, Banzai drafts have been successfully held in RIFC since 2010. A couple quick stats to highlight the differences: | First slot taken | 1, 6, 6, 14, 10 | | Last remaining slot | 8, 5, 4, 7, 8 | | Pick # of slot 1 | 1, 6, 10, 4, 4 | | Pick # with earliest average slot | 10 | | Pick # with latest average slot | 9 |
As you can see, the draft order draft varies significantly from year to year based on shifts in perceived value and owner preference. In conclusion, implementing a Banzai structure would diminish the value of randomly drawing a top pick and introduce more strategy into the picking process. I, for one, find such an approach appealing, not to mention very much in keeping with the RIBC ethos. What does everyone else think?
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| 3 | holt
ID: 38338181
Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 01:41
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I'm a big banzai proponent in football leagues. For some reason I've never heard of it being used much in baseball leagues. For football it seems to be the most balanced approach, but is there analysis showing that to hold true for baseball leagues?
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| 4 | Khahan
ID: 54152322
Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 01:52
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I would really hate to see this in baseball and honestly think it would take away from the draft, not add to it. Baseball doesn't have the problem of the every down back where there are only a very small handful and getting one of them simply gives you an advantage that others dont get.
Sure there are 5 cat players like McCutchen and Trout but if you dont get one of those you still have plenty of time to make those categories up. So why take a balanced system and unbalance it?
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| 5 | filthy
ID: 4157202
Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 06:23
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in at draftime, and requested password assistance at espn!
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| 6 | Toral
Leader
ID: 2111201313
Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 08:07
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As long as draft reversals are going to be discussed, I will mention that there is the additional alternative of "Third Round Reversal" which is a less forceful alteration of high pick advantage than Banzai drafting.
An explanation cut and pasted from a football site follows:
"Third Round Reversal - Often abbreviated "3RR", this alternative draft method has gained popularity in recent years, mostly because two national contests (NFFC and Rotobowl) have utilized this format in past seasons. Third Round Reversal looks exactly like a snake draft except that the first two rounds are reversed. The person who drafts first in Round 1 goes last in Round 2 AND Round 3, meaning that the person going last in Round 1 goes first in Round 2 and Round 3 - hence the "flip". After that change in Round 3, it continues to snake down the draft board, just like before, so the twist occurs between Rounds 2 and 3.
Third Round Serpentine or "Banzai" - "Banzai" is an alternative draft method has gained popularity in recent years. This style is often confused with Third Round Reversal (See #2), but it is actually a much simpler draft format. Only Round 3 is reversed from the original "snake" draft order, so the person going last in Round 1 gets to go first in Rounds 2, 3 and 4. The owner who has the first overall pick doesn't start a round again until Round 5."
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| 7 | youngroman
ID: 57047243
Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 08:43
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I found some values for draft picks (source) and calculated the value of the first 10 picks in a 16 team league.
with the normal snake draft you get team #1 with a value of 22.82 and team #16 with a value of 22.43
if you use banzai (reverse round 3) you get team #1 with 22.47 and team #16 with 22.78, which is pretty much the opposite.
if you use 3rd round reversal you get #1 with 22.74 and #16 with 22.51 with #14 the worst at 22.48.
I see no big difference between a team value of 22.8 and 22.4. the players you select still need to play like expected and you win by finding the gems in the middle and later rounds.
I also did a look into my RIBC AAA draft from last year. I used the values according to the ESPN player rater and looked at the totals of each team. the resulting order is
2 (2nd) - 12 (1st) - 7 - 14 (3rd) - 6 - 16 - 3 - 5 - 8 - 9 - 4 - 10 - 13 - 1 - 15 - 11
the number in parenthesis is the place at the end of the season of the 3 teams that advanced to RIBC. looks like you can draft good value from the top, the middle and the bottom. you just need to compare draft slot #1 with #2 and #12 with #11.
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| 8 | Evan
ID: 101522414
Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 12:10
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I have no real opinion on the matter. I will adjust to whatever is decided.
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| 9 | Nerfherders
ID: 161121811
Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 12:36
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I don't really see the value in Banzai drafting in this league. These leagues are won by drafting well in the middle and late rounds, and very seldom in the first 5 rounds.
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| 10 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 13:13
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Interesting topic, I'm glad it is being discussed.
I do not believe the method used by youngroman is appropriate for this discussion. According to the link provided, that "calculator" uses:"Using ADP data from the 2010-2014 seasons in combination with final season results, I was able to generate an approximate value for each pick in a fantasy baseball draft."
Why do final season results matter? What "combination"?
There is a simple way of looking at this. As mentioned above, the Bonzai and the 3RR are more popular in football because there is a common held belief that the top few players are worth so much more than the rest of the first round. Man, if there was a way to calculate that value difference ;)
Ah, Auctions! The auction price paid for a player is the most accurate way of determining market value, not ADP. There are plenty of free auction value cheatsheets or calculators. It doesn't take a degree in math or stats to see that the difference in auction $ drops fairly quickly at the top - I ran a auction value calculator with RIBC parameters and the difference in between the top player and the 6th is $10. 7th and 13th is $6, 14th and 20th, $2.50, etc...
Plug those numbers into draft slot positions and calculate. I have read somewhere in the past that the bottom slots do suffer, not in end of the year results, but in market value of their draft picks at the time of the draft. The more teams in the league, the larger the discrepancy.
Good luck everyone this year, I'm sad that I won't be a part of it.
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| 11 | twilson
ID: 36222109
Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 14:49
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I'd like to challenge Khahan's statement that the current system is "balanced." If the status quo is balanced, then why are the top few draft slots overwhelmingly more popular than any others?
I agree with Nerfherders that the rest of the draft is more important than the first few rounds. With that said, mattering less does not mean that it has no impact whatsoever. RIBC is still my favorite league as currently constructed; I just think it would be even better with this change implemented.
youngroman, thanks for doing that analysis. However, I do have to agree with Seattle Zen that end of season results cannot be used to judge draft slot value. Injuries alone have a major impact on full season player rankings, not to mention significant deviations from preseason performance expectations. As he says, auction values are the key. I will take up SZ’s challenge to do a slot-by-slot comparison of Banzai vs. snake using auction values.
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| 12 | Khahan
ID: 441522511
Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 16:01
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Because if you can get Mike Trout or Andrew McCutchen or Paul Goldschmidt, why wouldn't you? There's a reason they are some of the top picks over those who go near the end of round 1 like EE, Adam Jones etc.
However, having Trout in baseball is a good start but is not tantamount to having Jamaal Charles in football. Baseball does not have the 'every down back' problem that football has. Hitters have 5 categories that every hitter has an affect on. So while anybody in their right mind wanting to get trout will do so its not such a huge advantage that he alone can carry your team when you draft him in round 1.
Baseball is a true marathon, not a series of sprints. In that series of sprints you can have your team take a crap and still win the week because Charles went off for 200 yards and 2 TD's and your opponent was just so-so.
In baseball if your team sputters out and Trout still puts up a 40/40 season with 100 runs, 100 rbi's and a .340 BA guess what...you still lost.
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| 13 | youngroman
ID: 57047243
Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 16:34
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I have a problem getting auction values for the stat categories we use. here are some averages from fantasypros that use HR and AVG:
Mike Trout (LAA - CF) 47
Andrew McCutchen (PIT - CF) 40
Clayton Kershaw (LAD - SP) 40
Miguel Cabrera (DET - 1B,3B,DH) 38
Giancarlo Stanton (MIA - RF) 38
Paul Goldschmidt (ARI - 1B) 37
Jose Dariel Abreu (CWS - 1B,DH) 36
Carlos Gomez (MIL - CF) 33
Jose Bautista (TOR - 1B,CF,RF) 31
Edwin Encarnacion (TOR - 1B,DH) 31
do we really believe that Trout is $10 better than Goldschmidt? the projections I looked at have Trout with 10 runs and 5 SB more and 0.01 SLG lower. is that really worth $10 to some of you?
or lets compare Trout to Bautista. the difference is 10 runs, 15 SB and 0.03 SLG. worth $16 for you?
are 10 SB and 0.02 SLG worth $6 to upgrade from Bautista to Goldschmidt?
I took aboves auction values and calculated team values after the first 10 picks (120 hitters, 40 pitchers)
standard: #1 203, #16 181
3RR: #1 199, #16 185
banzai: #1 199, #16 185
I don't see much difference between the different models. #1 benefits of the inflated $47 for Trout and #2 because of $45 for Kershaw (Felix can be had for $28).
I also put the ESPN player rater values into my formula:
standard: #1: 72.93, #16: 69.47, worst: 69.28 (#15)
3RR: #1: 72.76, #16: 69.64, worst: 69.41 (#15)
banzai: #1: 72.15, #16: 70.25, worst: 69.98 (#15)
again not a huge difference between the 3 models. drafting 1st seems to give you an advantage of 4-5% and no model will change that unless you extend the banzai and also reverse rounds 5 and 7. then all teams are almost worth the same: 70.37 (#4) to 71.36 (#7).
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| 16 | gramazins
ID: 43133269
Thu, Feb 26, 2015, 10:33
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Very interesting discussion on draft slot. I love the auction value method seattle Zen used. To answer Young Romans question, no if they put up the stats you project there probably isn't a $10 or $16 difference.
I think that difference comes from the risk factor. Trout is a lot more likely to reach his projection than Bautista is to reach his due to injury. Goldschmidt is not as popular as Trout which probably plays into its some, but also the fact that 1bmen tend to run less as they age. This slow down on the base paths occurs slower for OFers. There is also a premium to be paid to get the top player in the game.
When are the other leagues getting started up for signups. I want to make sure I don't miss out this year.
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| 17 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Feb 26, 2015, 10:47
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[16] AA signups stared about a week ago, but it's not clear that we'll have any openings this year, as it looks like we may need to downsize by one AA league, based on early indications. Regardless, if you are interested, here is the thread to state your interest (and email): RIBC 2015: preliminary organizaion
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| 18 | gramazins
ID: 43133269
Thu, Feb 26, 2015, 14:39
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Thanks, I came back to late last year, was hoping I was early enough this year. I guess I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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| 19 | beastiemiked
ID: 481162721
Fri, Feb 27, 2015, 22:54
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I like the 3rd round reversal. I'd still pick one in that set up.
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| 20 | RJ
ID: 41162723
Sat, Feb 28, 2015, 00:16
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I like the original format but of all the other options presented 3rr seems most interesting.
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| 21 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 14:01
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I'd like to put this to a vote. Only the 16 managers in the top RIBC league may vote.
What should be the draft order?
A. Standard snake draft
B. Bonzai (same as snake but with the 3rd round reversed)
C. Third round reversal - same as snake, except that all rounds after the first two are reversed
For purposes of illustration:
Standard snake draft
Round 1: 1-16
Round 2: 16-1
Round 3: 1-16
Round 4: 16-1
All subsequent odd rounds: 1-16
All subsequent even rounds: 16-1
Bonzai draft
Round 1: 1-16
Round 2: 16-1
Round 3: 16-1
Round 4: 16-1
All subsequent odd rounds: 1-16
All subsequent even rounds: 16-1
3rd round reversal (3RR)
Round 1: 1-16
Round 2: 16-1
Round 3: 16-1
Round 4: 1-16
All subsequent odd rounds: 16-1
All subsequent even rounds: 1-16
Please select your first and second choice.
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| 22 | youngroman
ID: 57047243
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 14:10
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i like it traditional: A - C - B
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| 23 | Kevin
ID: 37215213
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 14:15
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B - C - A
Though my opinion is not particularly strong.
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| 24 | JeffG
ID: 15859720
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 14:18
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A - C - B
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| 25 | Evan
ID: 101522414
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 14:26
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C - A - B
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| 26 | Dave R
ID: 161562013
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 14:42
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A-C-B
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| 27 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 16:16
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A - C - B
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| 28 | Uptown Bombers
ID: 332561418
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 16:33
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A, C
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| 29 | ksoze
ID: 271212719
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 17:30
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A, C, B
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| 30 | mailedfoot
ID: 531322718
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 20:27
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A, C
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| 31 | kdl212
ID: 3927222
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 23:07
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A, C
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| 32 | RJ
ID: 54219222
Mon, Mar 02, 2015, 23:19
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A, C, B
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| 33 | filthy
ID: 4157202
Tue, Mar 03, 2015, 05:07
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C,A
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| 34 | Beastiemiked
ID: 3221438
Tue, Mar 03, 2015, 09:14
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C A
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| 35 | Graydog
ID: 2315871
Tue, Mar 03, 2015, 10:33
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A C B
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| 36 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 03, 2015, 13:45
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With 14 votes in, the train has left the station.
The status quo (traditional snake) already has 10 votes, greater than a majority of all 16 managers. Option C (3RR) was a clear second choice.
So we'll stick with the regular snake. While it has seemed that picking at the top of the order is a recurring preference (when given the choice), there is no evidence that those picking there have any significant advantage during the season.
Over the 11 years of RIBC, the team picking first has won twice, but averaged finishing in 7th place. The team picking 2nd has won once, and an average finish of 8th place. So the empirical evidence suggests that if there is any bias, it is very slight.
Further, in 7 of the 11 years, the team with the #1 pick did not finish in the top 6 of the standings, which is generally the threshold for earning a return invitation. The team picking second had more barbelled results - five times finishing in the top 4, and five times in the bottom 5.
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| 37 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 03, 2015, 13:57
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The winner of the league picked from the #1 slot twice, but two winners also came from the #16 slot.
The most frequent draft slot to win from has been #4 - three times (most recently last year).
Obviously, the sample size is rather small for this type of analysis.
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| 38 | blue hen
ID: 01052416
Thu, Mar 05, 2015, 09:43
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FWIW, my only RIBC universe win (AAA in 2012) came from the #1 slot. But as much as Miggy's triple crown was helpful, the real reason I won was overreaching for Mike Trout.
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| 39 | Nerfherders
ID: 161121811
Thu, Mar 05, 2015, 11:53
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If you really want to study draft position vs. finish I would suggest using AAA results as well. That triples your sample size.
In my AAA win I believe I picked 14th. Last year I picked 1st in AA and ended up 2nd. As I said before, what really matters is who you pick between rounds 10 and 20, and at that point draft position doesn't matter.
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| 40 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 05, 2015, 17:15
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It would triple sample size, but I don't have the historical records to easily figure it out. With some significant sleuthing, it probably could be done based on forum posts that are still available - although matching teams to names is not a trivial matter, especially when going back 10 years.
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| 41 | Nerfherders
ID: 161121811
Thu, Mar 05, 2015, 18:53
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A research challenge. I like those!
Going back through the threads I could find results for the last 8 seasons of AAA. Threads seemed to have died before 2007. I only looked at winners, as those were easy to find - "Congrats to X!" dated Oct, then match it up to the draft selection.
The 1st pick was the most common winning draft position, winning 4 times out of 16 seasons. The second and 16th spots each won twice. 3rd, 4th, and 11th through 15th won once each, and only one win total from the 6th through 10th spots. (so picking in the middle may not be good). My win in 2011 was actually the only middle round win in AAA, where I picked 9th.
The most interesting thing about this data is the synergy between the positions in each league. Outside of 2007 and 2011, the winning draft positions between the two leagues differed no more than 3 spots. It makes me wonder if there is something to the way the talent lines up from year to year that would cause that. It would interesting to align the AAA wins with RIBC to see if that synergy extends to the three leagues.
The other interesting thing is there is only one repeat winner in AAA - Tosh - who won in 2009 and 2014.
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| 42 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 14:57
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I plan to start the draft selection round this weekend - probably Sunday, maybe late Saturday.
The draft itself should begin around March 17, as originally indicated.
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| 43 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 16:05
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Re: 41 - I am a fantastic AAAA player in this competition. Results from my 11 seasons show results of -
AAA - 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 10th
RIBC - 4th, 5th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 16th
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| 44 | holt
ID: 38338181
Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 04:58
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Re 41, for the record, I think I've won AAA leagues twice, 2004 and 2008. The one in 2004 was called RQL #3. I think that must have been the first season of RIBC, before the terms AAA & AA were used.
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| 45 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 18:28
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Time to begin our draft position selection round.
I will take the following alphabetized list of managers:
BMD
Dave R
evan
filthy
graydog
Guru
holt
JeffG
kdl212
Kevin
ksoze
mailedfoot
RJ
Tosh
Uptown Bombers
Youngroman
Next I will generate a set of randomized integers from 1-16. This set will be aligned with the name list and then resorted by number to create the order for our draft selection round.
For audit purposes, the list of random numbers will be automatically emailed to Dave R, Tosh, and Youngroman.
Stand by...
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| 46 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 18:32
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Random numbers are: 9, 15, 6, 1, 2, 10, 8, 11, 12, 7, 13, 14, 5, 16, 4, 3
Resulting order is
1 filthy
2 graydog
3 Youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5 RJ
6 evan
7 Kevin
8 holt
9 BMD
10 Guru
11 JeffG
12 kdl212
13 ksoze
14 mailedfoot
15 Dave R
16 Tosh
filthy gets the first selection. No rush to start - but I'd like to get this started by Sunday afternoon, if possible.
Remember that we are using a traditional snake draft.
BTW, our initial waiver priority order will be the reverse of the above order. That is, Those will have the top priority for waivers after the draft, Dave R #2, etc.
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| 47 | filthy
ID: 4157202
Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 18:45
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1 filthy
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
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| 48 | graydog
ID: 4510723
Sat, Mar 07, 2015, 23:47
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1 filthy
2
3
4
5
6
7 graydog
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
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| 49 | youngroman
ID: 57047243
Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 04:47
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1 filthy
2
3 youngroman
4
5
6
7 graydog
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
tough decision. The biggest question mark for me is where Kershaw will go.
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| 50 | Uptown Bombers
ID: 332561418
Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 10:38
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I will take pick #4.
Posting from my phone, so could someone update the list for me. Thanks.
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| 51 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 12:26
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1 filthy
2
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5
6
7 graydog
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
RJ is up.
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| 52 | RJ
ID: 54219222
Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 16:59
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1 filthy
2 RJ
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5
6
7 graydog
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
evan up
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| 53 | Evan
ID: 5720121
Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 17:14
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1 filthy
2 RJ
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5 Evan
6
7 graydog
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
Kevin is up.
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| 54 | Kevin
ID: 1824321
Sun, Mar 08, 2015, 18:44
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1 filthy
2 RJ
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5 Evan
6 Rotoguru Jr.
7 graydog
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
Holt is up
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| 55 | holt
ID: 38338181
Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 02:23
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1 filthy
2 RJ
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5 Evan
6 Rotoguru Jr.
7 graydog
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16 Holt
BMD is up
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| 56 | Beastiemiked
ID: 222499
Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 10:24
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1 filthy
2 RJ
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5 Evan
6 Rotoguru Jr.
7 graydog
8 bmd
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16 Holt
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| 57 | twilson
ID: 36222109
Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 12:39
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Just wanted everybody to take note of how the draft order draft has progressed to this point. As usual, the top slots are overwhelmingly more popular...
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| 58 | Khahan
ID: 43242911
Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 12:42
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See post 12. Nobody thought the first few picks wouldn't be more popular. But its not relevant to our earlier discussion. A full snake in baseball is not unbalanced. We have multiple posts demonstrating that. So far its exactly what's expected.
*sorry to interrupt the draft choice selection*
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| 59 | Dave R
ID: 161562013
Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 12:51
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I'd like to change my vote for type of draft to Banzai ( B)
:)
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| 60 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 14:48
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1 filthy
2 RJ
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5 Evan
6 Rotoguru Jr.
7 graydog
8 bmd
9
10
11
12
13
14 Guru
15
16 Holt
JeffG is up
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| 61 | JeffG
ID: 15859720
Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 15:10
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1 filthy
2 RJ
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5 Evan
6 Rotoguru Jr.
7 graydog
8 bmd
9 JeffG
10
11
12
13
14 Guru
15
16 Holt
kdl212 is up
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| 62 | kdl212
ID: 4129915
Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 16:09
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1 filthy
2 RJ
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5 Evan
6 Rotoguru Jr.
7 graydog
8 bmd
9 JeffG
10
11 Kdl212
12
13
14 Guru
15
16 Holt
ksoze is up
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| 63 | ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 16:27
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1 filthy
2 RJ
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5 Evan
6 Rotoguru Jr.
7 graydog
8 bmd
9 JeffG
10
11 Kdl212
12
13
14 Guru
15 ksoze
16 Holt
Mailedfoot is up.
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| 64 | mailedfoot
ID: 531322718
Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 18:48
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1 filthy
2 RJ
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5 Evan
6 Rotoguru Jr.
7 graydog
8 bmd
9 JeffG
10
11 Kdl212
12 mailedfoot
13
14 Guru
15 ksoze
16 Holt
Dave R is up
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| 65 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 19:10
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1 filthy
2 RJ
3 youngroman
4 Uptown Bombers
5 Evan
6 Rotoguru Jr.
7 graydog
8 bmd
9 JeffG
10 Dave R
11 Kdl212
12 mailedfoot
13 Tosh
14 Guru
15 ksoze
16 Holt
There you have it....
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| 66 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 11:32
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The draft will "officially" start on Tuesday, March 17. However, I will activate the draft on Draftime.com on Monday. Once it is activated, you can set queues and make picks, as desired.
I'll plan to go untimed for the first round. Once we have completed the first round, we will start a 4-hour clock, with moratorium from midnight-8am ET.
The expectation is that the draft will finish by March 31 - and maybe a bit earlier.
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