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0 Subject: New Ottoneu league 2017

Posted by: Seattle Zen
- [301361318] Wed, Nov 02, 2016, 18:37

There was an effort to get a points Ottoneu league started this April but we may have waited too long to get people interested, so I am starting a thread now to let people know that I want to get a league going for 2017.

For those unfamiliar, Ottoneu is a type of dynasty keeper league run by Fangraphs. Here is a rah-rah story encouraging you to play. I have been interested for years but have never pulled the trigger.

I know that most of our leagues on this board are slow drafts, Ottoneu is an auction and a new league's auction can take 8 or more hours because each team has a 40 man roster. I think if we plan ahead and split the auction in half, conducting it over two days, we could pull it off without too much pain.

Chime in here is you are interested.
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82Fosten
      ID: 4097314
      Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 19:23
Hey folks, Tim is the missing manager. I contacted him and he said he will register tomorrow. Fingers crossed.
83Wiggs
      ID: 42142238
      Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 11:44
Good morning guys. I have been preparing a bit over the weekend for this draft

Couple things I came up with
Does the draft take place right through Ottoneu site?
Did we decide if we will be using a corner infielder?
Do we need to have a certain number of prospects? All the sites I have read suggest a number of prospects per team
Do we have a list of the scoring somewhere?

Thanks so much. Really excited to do this league
84artofmonk
      ID: 252332710
      Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 11:48
Nothing like waiting until the last minute to register for a new league that requires a 8 hour auction draft.
85Seattle Zen
      ID: 301361318
      Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 12:23
Wiggs - Yes, the auction is at the FanGraphs site. You should log onto FanGraphs and click on the league link to look around.

No CI, no requirement to have any prospects.

Click on this and scroll down a bit to see the FG scoring formula.
86Wiggs
      ID: 42142238
      Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 13:18
Ok I saw that scoring but I didn't think it could be right. So there are no points for rbis or runs?
87Seattle Zen
      ID: 301361318
      Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 13:28
Yep, measures your hit tool, not your teammates' talent.
88 Brett
      ID: 332452715
      Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 16:52
hey guys,

ottoneu still shows one open spot for the rotoguru league. would love to join, just send over the passwd.

New forum member, but long-time fantasy guru. Just had to cancel a private league and looking to move away from the traditional 5x5.
89Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 19:37
I want to confirm: Draft starts tomorrow at 8pm EDT? Is there a promotion order?
90Fosten
      ID: 4097314
      Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 22:38
In ROFL news...
  • Draft takes place Tuesday (tomorrow) and Wednesday (the day after tomorrow) from 8pm EST - midnight.
  • All 12 manager are now registered at ottoneu. Thanks to Nschip and Brett for posting their interest. Over the last week, another 7 people emailed asking about that last spot. I've made note of all 9 inquiries, in case we need replacements for next year. (Almost have enough for a second league!)
  • Wiggs, draft is through the ottoneu site. There should be a link on the homepage tomorrow evening to access.
  • All ottoneu leagues use the same roster format - A team's starting lineup consists of one slot at each infield position (catcher, first base, second base, third base, and shortstop), five outfielder slot, one additional middle infielder (second base or shortstop) slot, one additional hitter from any position (utility slot), five starting pitcher slots, and five relief pitcher slots.
  • There are minor league spots in your lineup, but it has no different meaning than bench. There is a 60-day DL, which is useful only in the case of long-term injury.
  • It may be a good idea for everyone to review https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/rules and https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/support
  • Nerf, I can't recall how the nomination order works for first-year leagues. I've googled for answers, but found none. Perhaps its randomized, not sure.
This is both my and SZ's first time acting as commissioner for ottoneu, so it may take a couple minutes to get started, but things should be on autopilot from there. As always be friendly, try to show up a few minutes early, make some popcorn, and settle in for the night. Gonna be a long ride. Peace.
91Wiggs
      ID: 42142238
      Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 22:54
Thanks for the updates foster. Can't wait for this draft
92Fosten
      ID: 4097314
      Tue, Mar 28, 2017, 19:07
Draft room is now open.
https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/802/draft
Also found in the navigation menu, 2nd link from the left.
93Wiggs
      ID: 42142238
      Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 09:16
How is everyone feeling this morning? I have to admit the 5am wake up was not fun. Especially since I didn't fall right asleep last night. Ready for another night of fun tonight.
94Fosten
      ID: 4097314
      Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 11:10
Wiggs, you've slept? I'm not sure how one does that 4 days before baseball season!
95Seattle Zen
      ID: 522152910
      Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 11:15
Man, that was an intense five hours. I, too, had problems getting to sleep. Ready for round two.
96Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 11:50
I have to ask about the Eaton situation. I am assuming that Taxman is taking him for the $26? Is there any way to get the $16 back for the draft? How does that even work, even if it's after the draft?

I'm still kinda miffed about it, even though I know it wasn't intentional. IN order to get the whole draft screen to show up on my old 4:3 monitor I had to zoom out, so I had trouble reading the little print next to the players when they came up.
97Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 12:16
The Eaton weirdness aside, that was a fun draft. I hit all my targets on the second day (Upton, Gausman, Murphy, Crawford), and probably had a bit more money left than I expected. We'll see how that plays out in the future.

How late did the draft go last night?
98Seattle Zen
      ID: 301361318
      Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 12:34
I don't know what to do about the Eaton situation, I haven't talked with Fosten about it.

The auction was great, Tuesday night was frantic, I had a difficult time keeping up. I was wrong when I thought the whole draft would take over eight hours. It took 5 hours to auction off the first 203 and less than 3 to finish up.

I took some time to come up with a plan for Weds. night and I accomplished what I wanted, it made the night much less fretful.

I want to thank everyone for participating. I've been interested in ottoneu for a few years, I am glad that we were able to get twelve active owners to commit. Best of luck to all.
99Wiggs
      ID: 42142238
      Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 16:38
As a manager in the league but not involved in the Adam eaton situation I believe u handled this the best possible way. Excellent job co commishes
100Wiggs
      ID: 42142238
      Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 18:52
As a manager in the league but not involved in the Adam eaton situation I believe u handled this the best possible way. Excellent job co commishes
102Seattle Zen
      ID: 301361318
      Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 19:13
Returning the $10 today is not an empty gesture, Taxman. Adam Eaton is a free agent today. You can use that $10 to bid on his services.
103Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 19:29
I admit my mistake for missing the RP (For the record, the other Eaton hasn't been in the majors since 2009, so in my mind the mistake is on Fangraphs for having all of these old players in their database). It wasn't just me either. If I hadn't bid $16, wiggs IIRC would've gotten him for $15. And if it had been the real Eaton, at that point in the draft players were going way over budget, and I'd likely have been out at over $20.

So I miss the little tag, Taxman misses the entire chat box discussion during and afterwards. It's all good. It's telling all of us to pay more attention to what's happening. :)

I'm fine with the commishes' decision, but I would suggest in the future, if Fangraphs doesn't clean up their database, that a draft gets stopped immediately if an old or 'fake' player goes up for bid.
105 Seattle Zen
      ID: 442183020
      Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 21:18
Fire away
106Wiggs
      ID: 42142238
      Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 23:53
Tax. I didn't mean to offend you in anyway with my comment. I guess I didn't see it from your side of not being able to use that 10 dollars for other guys. I apologize

Nerf. Don't think it was me who bid on eaton. I don't believe i bid on him at all.

Another possible solution. Can u just refund nerfs money for the fake eaton?

Fangraphs really needs to update the player pool. They charge 120 bucks per league and still have guys like old Adam eaton gary Sheffield vlad Guerrero among others. That is ridiculous for a site that charges that kind of money
107Seattle Zen
      ID: 51331723
      Tue, Apr 18, 2017, 00:04
Freddy Freeman tonight, one game, 43 points.

Jose Bautista, Russell Martin, Tommy Joseph, over two weeks, the whole season, 50 points combined...
108mailedfoot
      ID: 531322718
      Sun, Apr 30, 2017, 09:45
Zen, you are running away with this thing...slow down!
109Seattle Zen
      ID: 1610533022
      Mon, May 01, 2017, 00:09
Holy Cow, Mudville 9!

Anthony Rendon - 58.70 points
Matt Wieters - 37.6
Domingo Santana - 27
Adam Duval - 26.1

all on your bench today.
110Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Mon, May 01, 2017, 13:07
I wish I had a bench that good. I've been struggling with injuries all season. As soon as I get one guy back, another goes down.
111Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Fri, May 05, 2017, 17:26
8 guys on the DL now. It's a good thing that I drafted for the future.
112Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sun, May 07, 2017, 13:40
I've more than run out of guys now. 3 DL players in my starting lineup and lost a bid for my replacement OF. Sheesh.
113Seattle Zen
      ID: 301361318
      Fri, May 26, 2017, 14:45
I'm hoping that my lead isn't just a reflection that I have had the most innings pitched. Losing my favorite player in Freddie Freeman is upsetting. I knew he was due for a huge year, now do I cut him and get some money back or do I believe that he is a keeper at $38?
114Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Wed, May 31, 2017, 16:55
I think for this league there is a balance between quality and quantity. You can't have great players and no backups and be way behind in IP and GP, meanwhile you also can't go way over on IP and start too many mediocre pitchers. I was starting everyone in April and quickly went way over projection on IP, so I cut back to 5 SP for May, and I'm still over. 1500 IP is not a hard number to reach with all the bench slots we have.

Right now I'm a bit behind in GP, because my entire bench has been on the DL most of the season. Santana getting OF elig. is huge because now I can play him, Reynolds, and Bour at the same time.
115Seattle Zen
      ID: 301361318
      Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 14:27
Today is the day that I do declare I will bounce back with huge numbers and start making my way back to first place!
116Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Thu, Aug 03, 2017, 13:49
I think so far my overall impression of Ottoneu is good. My only issue is with acquiring FA's. The blind-bidding is good for long-term speculation picks, but not so good for acquiring instant replacements. If you lose you have to start over, and there is no recourse. This is especially difficult in circumstances where you simply need players because of loss of active players (injuries or demotions). At least in football when there is blind bidding there is an open FA acquisition period as well, so if you don't win your bids you can at least get warm bodies in the lineup.

I'd hate to be the team in the lead that suddenly loses, say, two RP's in a span of a couple of days (that's happened to me twice this year). Everyone knows that happened to you and could easily keep you from acquiring RP's for a good long time, at least a week.

It is what it is, of course. We can't change the settings. I'd prefer it to be open bidding. At least then we'd know we've been out-bid and can try someone else.
117mailedfoot
      ID: 531322718
      Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 20:09
Congratulations Mudville 9...great season
118Seattle Zen
      ID: 301361318
      Tue, Oct 10, 2017, 12:54
Sorry about the tardy congratulations, but great job Mudville 9. Looking at your roster, you didn't have the best auction, but it looks like you had the best in season management. And the monster points you left on your bench on May 1 didn't haunt you!

I enjoyed our first year, though if the amount of time and effort being a commissioner the first week of the league continued for the entire season... ;)

Hopefully I will take the lessons I learned and apply them to next season. Did we even have a single trade this year? Maybe this offseason we will be throwing players around like a Turkish bazaar.

I also hope that everyone will be back. There were a few squads that we not very active the second half of the season. If anyone wants out, speak up now so we can offer your squad to another gurupie.
119Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 16:50
I have to say, doing the arbitration thing is amazingly satisfying. "You got Aaron Judge for $4? Take that! And that!"
120Seattle Zen
      ID: 301361318
      Tue, Nov 07, 2017, 12:58
Polite reminder to the six teams who have not done so, but we have just one more week to make your arbitration allocations.

If any of the six teams are not intending to come back for 2018, now is the time to speak up.
121Fosten
      ID: 4097314
      Mon, Nov 13, 2017, 21:18
Echoing the belated congratulations to Mudville. This is a challenging game and your persistence to the math payed off. Stupendous!
Echoing the reminder that Allocations are due November 14. I've sent an email to the 5 teams who have not spent their budget.
Echoing the roll call for 2018. The next deadline on the calendar is January 31 to declare keepers.
If anyone is not returning, it'd be helpful to have a new manager in place before the end of the year. Thanks to all.
122GoatLocker
      ID: 4211359
      Tue, Dec 19, 2017, 10:49
Ditto on the belated congrats.
Plan right now is to be back.
I do need to look at the calendar and try to sort through a few things.
Not sure when in August we will be getting back from Europe, so that could have an impact.
Wasn't quite as hands on as I needed to be, and hope to fix that.
Did enjoy the league, but had a hard time sorting through some of it.

GL
123Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Thu, Dec 21, 2017, 19:00
What's the deadline for dropping and players and doing all of the pre-draft work? I'm seeing some managers have already dropped alot of players from their rosters. I'd prefer to wait until the Hot Stove season is over.
124Fosten
      ID: 4097314
      Thu, Dec 21, 2017, 22:39
Keeper deadline is January 31. Teams can begin dropping players anytime after November 14.
There is a link to the calendar in the navigation menu.
Auction Draft Day is TBD. I vote for Sunday, February 25 at 1pm EST. Any objections?
125Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 11:42
That seems really, really early.
126Fosten
      ID: 4097314
      Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 18:17
As you can tell, I am eager for baseball to start! Pitchers and catchers report February 12th. Season opens March 29th (4 days earlier than last year). Since many of us participate in multiple leagues, I’d like to draft ROFL before RIBC and G20 get going, usually somewhere around March 12-13. Once keepers are declared January 31st, the player pool is set and ready to go. I have another ottoneu draft on February 18th, so was looking at either February 25th or March 4th. Thoughts?
127Seattle Zen
      ID: 1610533022
      Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 13:07
I'm not even mildly interested in a Feb. draft. I would estimate this year's draft wrapping up in three to four hours, we can all agree upon setting aside that much time on a March day, I trust.

The real question is who will end up with Adam Eaton this year :)

128Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 13:42
My guess is at least two managers! ;)
129Jordan7361
      ID: 5811393120
      Sun, Dec 31, 2017, 21:40
I'd be down with a late February or early March draft.
130artofmonk
      ID: 540141715
      Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 16:14
I guess we should do a check in to see who is really coming back. Everybody but taxman did the allocations. I also agree that Jan. 31 seems really early, we can do our draft in March.
131Fosten
      ID: 4097314
      Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 17:44
The January 31 keeper deadline is standard for all ottoneu leagues and cannot be changed.
132Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Thu, Jan 18, 2018, 12:46
Wow, okay. So we have to drop all of our non-keepers before this deadline, or they are keepers?
133Seattle Zen
      ID: 1610533022
      Mon, Jan 22, 2018, 22:31
Yes, you have to drop players before the 31st or they will be keepers.

New season, new thread. ROFL ottoneu 2018 right here.
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