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Subject: Gurupie 20 - 2017 Regular Season Discussion
Posted by: Species
- Dude [07724916] Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 13:12
Constitution
Prospects - 300AB 110_IP/40_GP to remain a prospect.
(Draft Rounds 1-3, '04; 4-5, '05; 6-8, '06; 9-11, '07; 12-14, '08; 15-17, '09; 18-20, '10; 21-23, '11; 24-26, '12; 27-29 '13; 30-32 '14; 33-35 '15; 36-38 '16; 39-41 -17)
MGR: #, Name,Pos,Team,(# Call-ups)
Bean: 34.09 Nick Gordon, SS, MIN; 39.11 Jharel Cotton, SP, Oak; 40.07 Brent Honeywell, SP, TB
bmd: 36.12 Ryan McMahon, 3b, COL; 39.03 Vladimir Guerrero Jr, 3b, TOR; 40.01 Riley Pint, SP, COL; 40.08 Will Craig, 3b, PIT
Blue Hen: 37.05 Bobby Bradley, 1b, CLE; 39.06 Zack Collins, C, CHW; 39.16 Blake Rutherford, OF, NYY; 41.02 Adrian Jorejon, SP, SD
Darkside: 37.11 Ozhaino Albies, SS, Atl; 39.05 Hunter Renfroe, OF, SD; 44.03 Reynaldo Lopez, SP, CHW
Meatwads: 36.11 Franklin Barreto, SS, OAK; 36.05 Anderson Espinoza, SP SD; 39.04 Nick Senzel, 3b, CIN; Willy Adames, SS, TB; 40.06 Juan Soto, OF, WAS; 40.09 Delvin Perez, SS, StL
Great One: 33.01 Yoan Moncada, 2b, CHW; Rafael Devers, 3b, BOS; 40.04 Kyle Lewis, OF, SEA
Guru: 39.18 Francisco Mejia, C, CLE; 40.11 Jake Bauers, OF, TB
Thumper: 31.08 Austin Meadows, OF, PIT; 32.03 JP Crawford, SS, PHI; 36.01 Brendan Rodgers, SS, COL; 36.10 Nick Williams, OF, PHI; 39.10 Kyle Tucker, OF, HOU; 39.17 Jason Groome, SP, BOS
Judy: 37.03 Roman Quinn, OF, PHI; 39.01 Mickey Moniak, OF, PHI; 44.02 Alex Verdugo, OF, LAD
mjd: 36.08 Jorge Mateo, SS, NYY; 36.15 Brady Aiken, SP, CLE; 39.02 Kevin Maitan, SS, ATL; 39.14 Ian Happ, 2b, CHC; 40.12 AJ Puk, SP, Oak
Nerfherders: 30.07 Clint Frazier, OF, NYY; 37.02 Cody Bellinger, 1b, LAD; Kolby Allard, SP, ATL
Peter N: 39.12 Yadier Alvarez, SP, LAD; 41.01 Mitch Haniger, OF, SEA
Tree: 36.19 Gleyber Torres, SS, NYY; 39.08 Michael Kopech, SP, CWS; 39.20 Tyler O'Neill, OF, SEA; 40.05 Isan Diaz, 2b, MIL; 40.13 Chance Sisco, C, BAL
Fosten: 36.09 Bradley Zimmer, OF, CLE
Slizz: 39.13 Ronald Acuna, OF, ATL; 39.19 Corey Ray, OF, MIL
Species:
Khahan: 37.14 Dominic Smith 1st NYM; 36.20 Sean Newcomb, SP, ATL;
Tosh: 37.12 Anthony Alford, OF, TOR; 40.10 Josh Hader, SP, MIL
wg: 36.17 Victor Robles, OF, WAS;
youngroman: 36.13 Shohei Otani, SP, Hokkaido; 37.10 Cody Reed, SP, CIN; 39.15 Luis Robert Moiran, OF, Cuba
These managers have had their 2018 Supplemental Draft selections altered via trade:
3-19-16 Great One receives WG's 5th for his 9th (Grichuk / P-Pick)
3-20-16 bmd receives WG's 1st and 4th for his last 2 (Blackmon)
3-23-16 mjd receives WG's 7th for his 10th (Plouffe)
3-23-16 mjd receives Species' 6th for his 9th ('16 pick swap)
6-08-16 Great One receives Species' 5th for his 10th (R. Davis)
6-11-16 bmd receives PeteN's 6th for his 12th (Cingrani)
6-15-16 mjd receives WG's 6th for his 14th (Kang, Pearce)
7-20-16 Tree receives WG's 8th (Jones/Wainwright)
3-03-17 bmd receives Species' 9th for his 11th ('17 pick swap)
3-10-17 Great One receives mjd's 3rd for his 14th (Ray)
3-19-17 bmd receives ttucowboy's 1st for his 11th (2017 Supp Pick)
3-20-17 Tree receives Species' 1st for his 6th (2017 pick swap)
3-22-17 mjd receives a conditional 4th round pick from slizz (Heyward), contingent upon:
2018 4th round pick if Heyward fails to have 20 combined hr/sb
2018 3rd round pick if Heyward has 21-34 combined hr/sb
2018 2nd round pick if Heyward has 35+ combined hr/sb
3-24-17 bmd receives Fosten's 6th for his 10th (2017 pick swap)
3-24-17 bmd receives Species' 7th for his 11th (2017 pick swap)
3-24-17 Meatwads receives Fosten's 7th for his 11th (2017 pick swap)
3-25-17 Meatwads receives WG's 7th for his 14th (2017 pick swap)
The following managers have had their 2018 Prospect Draft selections altered via trade:
3-20-16 bmd receives WG's 2nd (Blackmon)
5-15-16 mjd receives Tosh's 1st (Tanaka)
1-14-17 Meatwads receives Fosten's 1st (Darvish, etc)
3-13-17 Meatwads receives Species' 1st (Kimbrel)
3-13-17 Thumper receives blue hen's 1st (Archer/Kemp/Semien)
3-19-17 bmd receives ttucowboy's 1st (2017 1.03 supp)
3-19-17 bmd receives ttucowboy's 3rd (2017 1.12 supp)
These managers have had their 2019 Supplemental Draft selections altered via trade:
3-19-17 Thumper receives WG's 1st (Desmond + Harvey / B. Rodgers)
3-25-17 Meatwads receives WG's 7th for his 11th (2017 pick swap)
Previous Champions
2003 (tie) Ref and StL Cards
2004 Ref
2005 Ref
2006 Beastiemiked
2007 Twarpy
2008 Ref
2009 Peter N
2010 Species
2011 (tie) Species and blue hen
2012 Toral
2013 Wazaaap Guy
2014 blue hen
2015 blue hen
2016 Species
Commissioner:
"Species" gmrobinson1@yahoo.com - "Tosh" lodnar@gmail.com - "Guru" (Treasurer) davehall@rotoguru2.com
Positions
C - 1 1B - 1 2B - 1 3B - 1 SS - 1 OF - 3 DH - 1 P - 6
Active - 15; Bench - 8; Total - 23; Must have active players on roster at each position
Returning Managers
As commissioners, we reserve the right NOT to extend an invitation to (or remove) any manager for any reason. Primary reason for being excluded would be abusive behavior, purposeful rules violations (ie colluding on a trade), inactivity (ie leaving injured/OUT players in as starters or not actively trying to improve your team), not participating in league business or repeated delays/unresponsive, or failure to pay your share of league fees. If an owner is removed or NOT invited back, a new owner will be recruited to take over the vacated team in its exact state. All monies will be forfeited.
Trade Policy
If there are 7 votes against the trade it will be sent to the commishs to be vetoed. There will be a min. of one full day to vote before the trade will be approved if the max objections are not reached. Everyone will be emailed by ESPN automatically as soon as the trade is accepted so they may review it. Make sure your email notifications are set up! Please check the site daily.
Trades involving draft picks/prospects will be listed in the trade and can also be posted on our leagues bulletin board and/or our thread at rotoguru.com. Note that off-season and pre-season (before draft is complete) trades will still be approved by the commishs.
Trades for draft picks - be they Supplemental or Prospect picks - may only be consummated within two drafts from the date of the trade. Example: in March 2015 before the Supplemental Draft, one can only trade either 2015 or 2016 picks. In June 2015, one could trade either 2016 or 2017 picks, etc.
Trade deadline - the trade deadline is the last day in August available in the ESPN website.
Minimums for GP and IP:
A team must accumulate a minimum of 1375 GP by hitters over the course of a season. For each 15 games of shortfall, a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-15 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 16-30 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
A team must accumulate a minimum of 1200 IP over the course of a season. For every shortfall of 15 IP, a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-15 IP of shortfall will receive one demerit, 16-30 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
GP and IP demerits will be combined for each team. However, the first two demerits will be forgiven.
If a team finishes “in the money” for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored.
For lottery teams, the following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year’s supplement draft:
If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be removed from the lottery and assigned the 14th pick in all rounds (i.e., behind all lottery teams, but ahead of any prize pool teams.)
For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (20th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 15th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 16-20 will each move down one place.)
If more than one lottery team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.
Keepers
There will be 9 players available to be kept heading into the season. You will have a deadline to post your keepers. You may change your keepers up until the deadline.
Players drafted in the Rule 4 draft the previous June are not eligible to be kept as keepers. This rule applies even if that player has played in the major leagues. All Rule 4 draftees must go through at least one Prospect Draft prior to being eligible as keepers.
2017 Prize Pool
There are 19 of 20 people in the prize pool @ $15 each. That means there is $285 to distribute. Teams are required to always be in it or out of it once they committed to it in 2005. These will be the payouts: 1st $110; 2nd 65; 3rd 45; 4th 30; 5th 20; 6th 15. If a non-participant places 1st-6th, his money will be reallocated so there is always a 100% payout. 1st-5th place will be moved up a spot in the prize money and the 6th place $15 will go to the treasury to help defray dues costs to all. Dues are used to pay for the league champion trophy and draft.
Supplemental and Prospect Draft Lotteries:
The lotteries for both the Supplemental and Prospect Drafts will be conducted within 30 days of the end of the previous season.
Timing of the Keeper Deadline, Prospect Draft and Supplemental Draft
Each March, as proposed by a Commissioner, the league hold the following events, in this order:
1) Keeper Deadline: all teams must designate their keepers. They may designate up to 9.
NOTE: At this time, once the Keeper Deadline has passed, managers may also call up prospects to their active roster. In this scenario, those prospects are separate from their 9 keepers.
ADDITIONALLY: Once the keeper deadline has passed, managers may exceed 9 or more players by trade.
2) Prospect Keeper Deadline: Managers designate their Prospect Keepers. They may designate up to 3.
3) Prospect draft picks are assigned and the Prospect Draft is commenced per our rules below.
4) The Supplemental Draft is completed.
Supplemental Draft, FA Pickups and Waivers
The Draft will be held prior to every season after Keepers are announced. A "NBA style" lottery will determine the top three selections. The lottery for the following season will be completed within 30 days of the end of regular season. Picks 4 - 20 and all picks in subsequent rounds will be in inverse order of previous years finish and will not snake.
Players must be available in the ESPN player pool to be drafted or added during the season via FA or WW. No amateur player may be drafted or picked up via FA or WW if the player in question still has amateur status or is a prospect. Also, if a player is drafted in the June MLB draft, while he may be freely picked up and used on a roster, please note that per our keeper rules they may not be kept the following season. All Rule 4 draftees must go through one Prospect Draft before they become keeper eligible.
There is a 3 hour per draft pick time limit and a cumulative time limit of 12 hours. (Subject to change). You may not exceed 23 players. You may not drop a player (or add a non-drafted player if you are short) until waivers have been turned on. You may trade for extra picks and you may trade your excess picks as long as it is done before the preceeding pick has been made. If you make a duplicate pick, the draft will continue and you may correct that pick at any time. Once you have been skipped, you will continue to be skipped until you are caught up. If a clock runs out, the next person on the clock will be charged for any time before his pick. If you are skipped due to a pick or c clock, you may still post your selection at any time.
Waivers will begin the season in the same order as the supplemental draft. Lottery picks and traded draft picks will not be considered when determining the waiver order.
Prospect Rules:
The underlined key deadlines and procedures are completed in a linear fashion, one after the other.
Keeper Deadline:
At a time announced by the Commissioner, all managers must have no more than 3 keepers on their prospect list. This is the only point in time where teams must have 3 or fewer prospects.
Managers will announce what prospects they intend to keep on the prospect list, which prospects they are releasing, and (if applicable) which prospects they are calling up and releasing (see below).
All hitters must have less than 300 ABs and pitchers less than 110 IP or 40 GP to remain a prospect. Otherwise, they must be moved to your active roster or released. Managers must monitor their own prospects. If they are later to have found to be over the max. at that deadline, the player will be immediately removed as a prospect and put on waivers.
Owning another team's prospect pick has no bearing on the above.
Assignment of Prospect Picks:
After declaration of kept, released or called up prospects, Managers are assigned new prospect picks dependent upon how many prospects they kept - with the total sum of kept prospects and new picks of your own limited to a total of 3. Specifically:
- If you keep 3 prospects, you receive no new picks
- If you keep 2 prospects, you receive your 1st round prospect pick
- If you keep 1 prospect, you receive your 1st and 2nd round prospect picks
- If you keep no prospects, you receive your 1st, 2nd and 3rd round prospect picks
If an owner has traded away one of their prospect picks, they must reduce their kept prospects below three in order to comply with the terms of their trade. See "if you have traded away a pick", below.
Owning another team's prospect pick has no bearing on the above.
End of Keeper Deadline Activity:
Upon the completion of the keeper deadline and the assignment of picks, managers may then exceed three prospects by trade.
Processing of Traded Prospect Picks:
After the assignment of picks, the league will officially process all traded picks:
If you have traded away a pick: As noted above, any team that has traded away a pick must comply with the terms of their trade. This means that the number of prospects you are allowed to keep is reduced by the number of prospect picks you have traded away. As with any trade, if an owner trades away a pick in a round that they do not own, the receiving party receives a pick of a higher round to satisfy their trade.
If you have traded for a pick: Acquired picks are only used as picks in the Prospect Draft. The owning of another team's pick in no way alters the number of prospect keepers you may have, nor does it effect the assignment of your own prospect picks.
Prospect Draft:
The Prospect Draft will be held during the preseason after keepers are finalized (but before the Supplemental Draft). Drafts will be in inverse order of the final standings of the previous year and will not snake. A "NBA style" lottery will determine the top three selections. The lottery for the following season will be completed within 30 days of the end of regular season. Picks 4 - 20 and all picks in subsequent rounds will be in inverse order and will not snake. Players will be selected on our thread at rotoguru.com if possible. If that site is down, our draft will continue on the bulletin board of our page if we have knowledge of all picks selected previously. Ties will be broken by a dice roll. There will be up to 3 rounds.
A draft-eligible prospect is defined as a hitter that has less than 150 Major League at bats or a pitcher with less than both 55 Major League innings pitched and 20 Major League games pitched. Further, to be eligible, the player must be a professional baseball player, defined as one of the following:
- Under contract with a MLB teams system. This does not require them to have been assigned to a minor league team at the time of the draft.
- A professional player playing in/having played in Japans Nippon Professional Baseball (NPB) league.
- A professional player playing in/having played in Koreas Korean Baseball Organization (KBO) league.
- A professional player playing in/having played in Cuba's top professional league, the Serie Nacional.
Amateur players in High School, College or otherwise subject to the Rule 4 draft are not eligible.
There will be a 3 hour per pick clock and a 4 hour cumulative clock to draft. If you are skipped, you may make your selection at any time. Time will not accrue from midnight to 8 am ET, though anyone may select during that time if their pick is up. Once the draft concludes, the only way to add a prospect is via trade or future drafts. After the draft, you may bring this player on your active roster at any time (as long as hes in the ESPN database) by dropping a player.
Prospect callup rules: Managers may call-up and then send down their prospect up to two times without losing their rights as a prospect as long as that player has not hit the maximum ABs/IP/GP threshold. Once a commish allows the call-up, he will add the number of times that player has been called-up next to his name in the Prospect List below. At the end of the season, all prospects on the roster will be considered optioned so they wont have to be counted as a keeper so long as they have not hit their threshold. Before a commish will option or send-down a prospect, he will look at the stats for that player including games played that day if the lineup freeze has passed. If a prospect is renounced or hits his threshold while on your roster (called up), his name will be removed from your prospect list.
Alphabetical list of Prospects:
Ronald Acuna
Willy Adames
Brady Aiken
Ozhaino Albies
Anthony Alford
Kolby Allard
Yadier Alvarez
Franklin Barreto
Jake Bauers
Cody Bellinger
Bobby Bradley
Zack Collins
Jharel Cotton
Will Craig
JP Crawford
Rafael Devers
Isan Diaz
Anderson Espinoza
Clint Frazier
Nick Gordon
Jason Groome
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Josh Hader
Mitch Haniger
Ian Happ
Brent Honeywell
Michael Kopech
Kyle Lewis
Reynaldo Lopez
Kevin Maitan
Jorge Mateo
Ryan McMahon
Austin Meadows
Francisco Mejia
Yoan Moncada
Mickey Moniak
Adrian Morejon
Sean Newcomb
Tyler O'Neill
Shohei Otani
Delvin Perez
Riley Pint
AJ Puk
Roman Quinn
Corey Ray
Cody Reed
Hunter Renfroe
Luis Robert Moiran
Victor Robles
Brendan Rodgers
Blake Rutherford
Nick Senzel
Chance Sisco
Dominic Smith
Juan Soto
Gleyber Torres
Kyle Tucker
Alex Verdugo
Nick Williams
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| 242 | darkside
ID: 81492120
Tue, Oct 03, 2017, 22:08
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Congrats on another title, blue hen!
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| 243 | GO
ID: 565491620
Tue, Oct 03, 2017, 22:26
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Congrats to BH.
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| 244 | Thumqer
ID: 39230821
Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 07:37
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Congrats BH! I'm happy you got to show Chris Archer a W, he wasn't going to get one from my team this year.
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| 245 | Slizz
ID: 7955412
Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 13:55
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Yes -- congrats to BH...G20 is a difficult league to win. #4 now puts you on the pantheon with Ref!
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| 246 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 16:38
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Come on, Slizz. That's like being happy about a batting title. We use advanced metrics at this level.
BH joined G20 in 2008, taking over a team that finished 16th, 19th, and 20th the three years prior. Ref won his final championship in 2008.
Championships since 2009:
BH: 3.5
Species 2.5
Pete, Toral, WG 1 each
Ref: 0
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| 247 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 13:28
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I hope everyone is enjoying this crazy World Series. Honestly I am not sure I like these crazy home runs.......is a 2-1 nailbiter more entertaining and nuanced than a 13-12 barnburner?!?
Congrats again to blue hen........but the quest to dethrone his a$$ started before the season was even over. I have plenty of bullets to fire this offseason, and IMO it is never too early to start!!
Team Species is ready to deal and has a variety of worthy assets:
Hard to move, but not impossible
Mookie Betts
Corey Seager
Miguel Sano
Top 50 studs
Craig Kimbrel
Dee Gordon
Edwin Encarnacion
Jose Abreu
Nelson Cruz
Jacob DeGrom
Top 100 players
Scooter Gennett -- hard to believe he put up a .342 obp with 27 bombs and 97 (!!) rbi. All better than (or equal to in terms of rbi) than Robinson Cano. He has earned a starting job from Day 1 (which he did not have for 2 months).
Masahiro Tanaka -- got over his homer-itis after a DL stint to cure a dead arm. Nearly pitched the Yankees to the World Series.
Keeper worthy / upside
Johnny Cueto -- the blister issue had an effect on him ALL SEASON. There is no other logical explanation for his struggles. Still in a great pitchers park.
Michael Taylor -- 19 hr and 17 sb in 399 AB. Curious how the Nationals OF shapes up with Eaton back next year. I think Taylor takes CF and Eaton's superior LF defensive profile (he was awful as a CF) shifts him there.
Alex Claudio -- posted a 2.50 era and 1.04 whip in locking down the closer's role for the Rangers.
Don't let too much of the offseason go before paying some attention to your baseball team! Your football and basketball drafts are done! Inquire within.
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| 248 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Nov 07, 2017, 12:06
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The good news for youngroman: Shohei Otani hired an agent.
The fuzzy news: NPB and MLB's posting agreement just ended. Time to negotiate a new one.
Shouldn't do more than delay the inevitable, I assume.....but it does add to the drama.
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| 249 | youngroman
ID: 19238238
Tue, Nov 07, 2017, 17:33
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I better ignore that drama and hope that this gets solved until players report to spring training. there are over 3 months until then. on the other end the posting agreement expired on February 1, which is over 9 months ago and they were not able to come up with something new by the time the posting period would have started under the old agreement (November 1).
I am a bit worried that it may take another 2 years until he comes over. but that was the gamble I had to take when I drafted him last year.
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| 250 | youngroman
ID: 19238238
Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 13:54
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news
should I start celebrating?
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| 251 | ttucowboy
ID: 8550318
Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 19:39
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As a Rangers fan, I hope he goes to Texas!
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| 252 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Nov 13, 2017, 13:36
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He is coming, IMO. Excellent coup by youngroman. I would have drafted him but not in Round 1. Kudos!
Speaking of prospects.......I have a big fat ZERO in that category. If any teams with 4, 5 or 6 prospects need a home for them.....lemme know!
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| 253 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Wed, Nov 29, 2017, 10:03
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Hope everyone is having a good November. The winter meetings are coming up, so there should be a bunch of real life trades. Let's make some G20 deals!
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| 254 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Fri, Dec 01, 2017, 10:14
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Who wants Miguel Cabrera?
Statcast suggests a Miggy revival in '18
Per the Statcast™ quality of contact metrics, there was no hitter in baseball with a bigger gap between his quality and amount of contact and his actual outcomes. Based on how hard, how high and how often Cabrera hit the ball, he was still a top-20 hitter, similar to Corey Seager or Gary Sanchez. Based on actual results, he was outside the top 200, more like Yunel Escobar or Daniel Descalso. It's a huge gap.
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| 255 | youngroman
ID: 19238238
Fri, Dec 01, 2017, 16:00
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looks like Christmas will start a few days earlier this year. at most 21 days to go. link
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| 256 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 18:51
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Our treatment of Ohtani in terms of position eligibility is going to be dependent upon ESPN. We will need to see what they make available to us first before we make any final decisions.
I would assume the most likely scenario is he has duel eligibility as a hitter and a pitcher, and must be placed into yr's lineup as one or the other. And, just like with National League pitchers, if Ohtani hits on days that he pitches, hitting stats will not be credited.
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| 257 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 10:18
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Looks like the CBS Prospect List is out. Luiz Gohara, the young Braves fireballer is in there at #18. Just looking for a modest pick upgrade here - who wants him?
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| 258 | Khahan
ID: 2911322610
Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 11:22
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So I have a small dilemma - what to do with my keeper list. I'm counting more than 9 so if you are looking to expand your list I'd like to offer up Dallas Keuchel and your choice of Conforto or McCutchen for a SP.
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| 259 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 11:13
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I am putting together the 2018 Supplemental Draft grid so trade talks can occur more readily. In doing so, I found the following trades that need some attention:
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WG
ID: 35338278
Wed, Jul 20, 2016, 20:00 Tree gets Michael Saunders, Steven Wright, Ryon Healy, Carson Fulmer (p), 2018-8
WG gets Adam Jones, Adam Wainwright
No return pick to WG. Please advise if intended otherwise.
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3-22-17 mjd receives a conditional 4th round pick from slizz (Heyward), contingent upon:
2018 4th round pick if Heyward fails to have 20 combined hr/sb
2018 3rd round pick if Heyward has 21-34 combined hr/sb
2018 2nd round pick if Heyward has 35+ combined hr/sb
Jason Heyward had 11 hr and 4 sb. As such, this is officially a 4th rounder to mjd. However, as with the above, no return pick to slizz is mentioned.
As has been historical practice, if both teams can agree (something to the effect of) that "ooops, he was supposed to get my last pick back", or whatever, I will allow the correction. However, the team that did not originally give up a pick (Tree above, mjd here) is under no obligation to include a return pick.
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Then the old "double trade" trick:
3-23-16 mjd receives WG's 7th for his 10th (Plouffe)
3-25-17 Meatwads receives WG's 7th for his 14th (2017 pick swap)
But WG later acquired a 7th from slizz:
7-25-17 WG receives slizz' 7th for his 9th (Kinsler)
So that pick will be used instead.
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I consciously did this:
5-24-17 Guru receives a 3rd* from Species for his 14th (Oh)
*if S. Oh earns 30 or more saves in the 2017 season, this pick becomes a 2nd
5-24-17 Tree receives a 3rd from Species for his 12th (Wacha)
.....assuming Oh would rack up 30 saves. So, here is what we do:
1) I process trades linearly. Guru gets my 3rd round pick.
2) Without a 3rd at the moment, my trade with Tree would be bumped to a 2nd round pick. However, I have until the Supplemental Draft to acquire a 3rd instead to fulfill my trade. So, at this moment, I will not process this trade on my draft grid. Tree - be sure to stay on me about fulfilling this trade!
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The following teams get the annual (and very tongue-in-cheek) "Get off your a$$es and make some trades" award, given to those teams that did not make a trade involving a draft pick:
Judy
Bean
darkside
youngroman
.......and, ironically:
blue hen!
I have already had an inquiry about a trade......which, for me, is a rarity and a shock that I was not the first one to do so! Things start to percolate around now and heat up after the Super Bowl. It is never too early!!
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| 260 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 13:24
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Win a championship and keep all your draft picks. Isn't that the dream?
If anyone remembers, I only had 9 picks in last year's draft and am looking for something similar this year.
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| 261 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 13:24
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Win a championship and keep all your draft picks. Isn't that the dream?
If anyone remembers, I only had 9 picks in last year's draft and am looking for something similar this year.
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| 262 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 14:30
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<259> I don't make trades just to make them Species. They MUST serve a purpose. I prefer to lean on the draft and waiver wire as my primary tools for improving my teams.
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| 263 | Thumqer
ID: 3614168
Sun, Jan 21, 2018, 12:45
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Can’t wait to see which pick I have!
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| 264 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jan 22, 2018, 11:26
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2018 Supplemental Draft Grid
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| 265 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jan 22, 2018, 11:30
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Apparently, the "publish range as html" capability in Excel has been changed. I couldn't find a simple way in Excel to get the draft grid into html in a format compatible with this forum's setup.
So I tried to use a google docs process, which appears above. It seems to be working - but I don't know if it's dependent on browser, or google account, or anything like that. Please let me know if you can't read it (post 264)
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| 266 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jan 22, 2018, 11:37
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2018 Prospect Draft Grid
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| 267 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Jan 22, 2018, 13:39
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Guru and I are realizing that we have not run the lotteries per our rules. They were supposed to be run in October. What shotty management at the top.....
But first, it is everyone's favorite time ---- DEMERIT TIME! Woo hoooo!
Our rules dictate that teams must accumulate 1375 GP by hitters. The following teams received demerits for GP:
Thumper - 1368 GP = 1 demerit
Great One - 1343 GP = 2 demerits
Fosten - 1356 GP = 1 demerit
Our rules dictate that teams must accumulate 1200 IP. The following teams received demerits for IP:
Tosh - 1097 ip = 6 demerits
Great One - 1163 IP = 2 demerits
ttucowboy - 1192 IP = 1 demerit
However, we passed the forgiveness clause which forgives the first 2 demerits for every team. As such, we only have 2 teams receiving actual demerits this year:
Great One - 4 total minus 2 free = 2 demerits assessed
Tosh - 6 total minus 2 free = 4 demerits assessed
Teams should review these calculations for accuracy.
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| 268 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Jan 22, 2018, 13:47
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Our rules dictate that demerits are FIRST applied to the worst finisher first. This matters because - prior to demerits - Tosh had the 6th best slotting while GO had the 8th best slotting. So, per our rules:
First -- Tosh drops from 6th to 10th. In applying that, Bean, GO, Meatwads and ttucowboy each move up one.
Second -- GO drops 2 spots from 7th to 9th. In effect, he only loses 1 spot.
Quirky I know......but you have to have a set basis upon which to apply the rules, and this is clear.
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| 269 | slizz
ID: 310522313
Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 14:52
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Couple minor corrections to the chart:
I would have picks 9.14 and picks 9.18 (post 259)
I made the deal with mjd with the understanding that I would get his last available pick for Heyward (post 259). Going forward, I will make a better effort to clarify when making future deals!
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| 271 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 16:36
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269: pick 9.18 corrected on my chart.....
I am missing where 9.14 was sent to you.
Need mjd confirmation for him including the last pick......
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| 272 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 16:43
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All looks good to me. "If a team finishes “in the money” for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored." No forgiveness needed, I can just be ignored.
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| 273 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jan 24, 2018, 11:04
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I'm going to get the lottery spreadsheet set up later today, and I'll plan to run the lotteries on Thursday morning(supplemental and prospect lotteries are separately run).
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| 274 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 25, 2018, 10:50
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The lottery was run this morning. Random draws were executed online, and audit copies of the numbers were automatically sent to Species, Tosh, and Youngroman
The results are unusual, but I have rechecked everything, and "it is what it is."
Here are the results:
Supplemental draft:
Pick #1: darkside
Pick #2: Tosh
Pick #3: ttu cowboy
Darkside gets the top pick from the #11 lottery position (chances were 13/1000)
Tosh gets the $#2 pick from the #10 position (18/1000)
ttu cowboys gets the 3rd pick from the #8 position (32/1000)
I don't ever recall all three of the "top seeds" getting shut out before.
Prospect draft:
Pick #1: Beastiemiked
Pick #2: Thumpers
Pick #3: mjd
BMD was in the #5 position (chance of selection was 81/1000)
Thumpers was #4 (109/1000)
mjd was #1 (250/1000)
Lottery mechanics are laid out in the following spreadsheet:
http://rotoguru1.com/base/G20/G20-Jan18-14x4_balls.xls
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| 275 | mjd
ID: 38914216
Thu, Jan 25, 2018, 13:32
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[271] Confirm last pick.
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| 276 | slizz
ID: 310522313
Thu, Jan 25, 2018, 15:37
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RE - 271: I recognize it's nit-picking, but I can't find any record of where I traded 9.14. It has always been my pick as I finished 7th...
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| 277 | Tosh
Dude
ID: 057721710
Thu, Jan 25, 2018, 17:18
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Hmm. I just felt that the #11 slot was going to win the lottery. I tried to earn enough demerits to get there ... but fell one short. The #2 pick is an acceptable booby prize.
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| 278 | Tree
ID: 77532019
Thu, Jan 25, 2018, 17:37
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Tree - be sure to stay on me about fulfilling this trade!
no, i'll just take the 2nd rounder :D
especially after getting totally screwed with that lottery stuff...daaamn that's amazing.
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| 279 | Thumqer
ID: 39230821
Fri, Jan 26, 2018, 09:20
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I’m loving the 2nd overall prospect pick! Can’t wait to see the full draft order for the supplemental draft.
Also I’m open to trade discussions. You know what they say about the early bird.
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| 280 | Thumqer
ID: 39230821
Sat, Jan 27, 2018, 22:08
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Thumper trades Prospect Jason Groome, SP to Blue Hen
Blue Hen trades Walker Buehler, SP to Thumper
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| 281 | Blue hen
ID: 410452818
Sat, Jan 27, 2018, 22:10
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Confirmed.
Looking for similar deals for Luiz Gohara and Carson Fulmer.
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| 282 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Jan 29, 2018, 13:15
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280: Moved Groome to bh's team in Prospect List.
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| 283 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Mon, Jan 29, 2018, 13:33
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Thanks. I suspect Ian Happ can be removed too, since he's over the limit. Not sure if there are others.
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| 284 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Mon, Jan 29, 2018, 13:34
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Since, I mentioned Gohara, here's the CBS Top Prospect List:
18. Luiz Gohara, SP, Braves
Age (on opening day): 21
Acquired from the Mariners last winter for a couple of ill-fitting parts, Gohara has quickly emerged as the best in a system loaded with pitching prospects. His five-start trial down the stretch doesn't appear special at first glance, but he had a strike percentage and swinging strike percentage on par with Clayton Kershaw, Chris Sale, Corey Kluber and Max Scherzer.
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| 285 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 13:32
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Happ, Renfroe, Haniger, Nick Williams, Bellinger, and Cotton can be removed from the prospect list. And Bradley Zimmer stays, by ONE at bat!
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| 286 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 19:13
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285: Well, technically two of them can stay on there for now. The following two were NOT on their respective teams at the end of the season. By rule, they are supposed to be "automatically called up" and then treated like any other player on the active roster (i.e. - eligible to be kept in the teams' 9):
Bean: Jharel Cotton
darkside: Hunter Renfroe
I need Bean and darkside to either: 1) designate someone to cut so I may put these guys on their roster; or 2) confirm that they will renounce any further rights to them and they will simply be free agents.
Happ, Haniger, Williams (313 AB - ouch!) and Bellinger are already called up to their teams and have been removed from the prospect list.
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| 287 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Feb 02, 2018, 13:00
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<286>I need Bean and darkside to either: 1) designate someone to cut so I may put these guys on their roster; or 2) confirm that they will renounce any further rights to them and they will simply be free agents.
What is the schedule for everything? Is there some new deadline for this specifically?
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| 288 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Fri, Feb 02, 2018, 15:24
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I might be misremembering, but I think Bean and Darkside don't need to drop anyone, per historical precedent.
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| 289 | beastiemiked
ID: 481162721
Fri, Feb 02, 2018, 16:15
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Just cut your worst player. There's gotta be someone that has absolutely no chance of being kept. I have like 20 of those guys on my roster.
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| 290 | ttucowboy
ID: 8550318
Fri, Feb 02, 2018, 16:35
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Figures I get lucky in the lottery on a pick I traded. Enjoy bmd!
Prospects Bobby Bradley, Corey Ray and Yadier Alvarez are on the block. If interested, let me know.
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| 292 | Judy
ID: 35493114
Thu, Feb 15, 2018, 21:06
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Species will you shoot us an email when espn opens up?
I am going on vacation Monday and will hasilty check emails but probably not much else.
Thx.
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| 293 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Fri, Feb 16, 2018, 09:41
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Judy, this is the 2017 thread, we should move discussion to the 2018 one.
I will personally text you when ESPN goes up. Just send the number to text to via email.
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