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0 Subject: 2023 RIBC role call

Posted by: filthy
- [42148320] Fri, Feb 03, 2023, 21:49

Just to get the ball rolling as spring training approaches and I'm surely not the only one with the itch!

To make planning a bit easier, posting last year's standings here.

There were talks of top 7-8 from RIBC returning and top 4 from AAA qualifying and the remaining 4 spots to be determined. Nothing seemed final but I'm sure we can come up with a fair cutoff.

from AAA:
1 Da Bomb Squad 127.5
2 filthyrich's Superb Team 109.5
3 HOLT 108
4 Jason's Credible Team 107.5
5 YWC's Yumbelievable Team 107
6 Species RIBC 2022 104
6 who is ksoze? 104
8 Mos Espa Rancors (Nerf) 89.5
9 Graydog 81.5
10 gurudan 77.5
11 Fred's Fantastic Team 67
12 Brent's Incredible Team 63.5
13 Munson Mobsters 58
14 loki's LAD63 57
15 SANFORDORS 53
16 C1 Presents A.L.L. Army 2022 45.5

from RIBC:
R RBI SB OBP SLG K W SV ERA WHIP TOT
1 Smith and 9th 16 16 10 13 16 13 12 16 15 15 142
2 Foot’s Acrobats 15 14 8 16 10 14 9 15 12 13 126
3 Uptown Bombers 11 15 13 9 14 12 10.5 12 16 11 123.5
4 Team Mikulka 6 9 7 10 13 15 15.5 13 13 12 113.5
5 Milchian Magicians 9 13 12 5 4 8 15.5 14 14 16 110.5
6 I_AM_CANADIAN IAC 12 11 4.5 14 5 16 8 8 11 14 103.5
7 Delaware Destroyers 14 5 16 11 8 9 13 11 10 4 101
8 Bean's Indians 13 7 3 15 11 3 10.5 6 9 7 84.5
9 Blue Hen 8 10 1 3 12 7 14 10 7 10 82
10 JeffG RIBC 10 8 4.5 12 9 6 6 5 6 8 74.5
11 Wiggs Supernovas 4 6 14 7 15 5 4 2 2 3 62
12 Seattle Zen 5 4 15 2 3 10.5 7 3 5 5 59.5
13 Rotten Amoebas 7 12 9 6 6 4 5 4 3 2 58
14 Sandor Kiss 1 1 11 4 2 2 3 1 8 9 42
15 Crack Babies 2 3 6 8 7 1 1 9 1 1 39
16 s R 3 2 2 1 1 10.5 2 7 4 6 38.5
1filthy
      ID: 42148320
      Fri, Feb 03, 2023, 21:50
Interesting, it's roll call.
My bad!
I plan on returning, and prefer to remain in AAA on yahoo for what it's worth.
2filthy
      ID: 42148320
      Fri, Feb 03, 2023, 21:52
I'm 50/50 on willing to commish yahoo if nerf qualifies to move up. Can be convinced but more than willing to allow anyone else interested the chance.
3Species
      ID: 1412613
      Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 09:39
In!!
4Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 09:41
in
5C1-NRB
      ID: 576541616
      Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 10:21
In.

Someday...
6Nerfherders
      ID: 56261418
      Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 13:14
I'm in.
7mailedfoot
      ID: 52151412
      Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 13:51
In
8Fosten
      ID: 25123416
      Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 17:25
Wow. My Munson Mobsters team was terrible last year. I'll put a quarter into the AAA machine and try again. I'm in.
9 taxman
      ID: 240332712
      Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 18:38
keep me in mind if you have an opening
10holt
      ID: 40943015
      Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 04:20
in
11 loki
      ID: 10129515
      Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 16:29
In
12Uptown Bombers
      ID: 28219112
      Sun, Feb 05, 2023, 20:51
In
13kdl212
      ID: 21036230
      Mon, Feb 06, 2023, 00:51
in
14JeffG
      ID: 40132610
      Mon, Feb 06, 2023, 11:32
IN

Maybe since there are folks that prefer Yahoo and folks that prefer ESPN, we just split along those fronts and skip the Majors and AAA. Just a thought.
15Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Mon, Feb 06, 2023, 12:01
In
16Smith and 9th
      ID: 40132610
      Mon, Feb 06, 2023, 12:19
In.
(Kevin)
17I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 384502818
      Mon, Feb 06, 2023, 12:29
In
18GO
      ID: 288332716
      Mon, Feb 06, 2023, 12:54
I'm in and would literally surrender my RIBC slot just to avoid ESPN. So if that is AAA or a split, fine with me.
19Uptown Bombers
      ID: 582211412
      Mon, Feb 06, 2023, 13:00
I would also rather be in Yahoo than espn, even if that means moving to AAA.
20gurudan
      ID: 44017287
      Mon, Feb 06, 2023, 15:19
I won't be participating this year. Thanks DAN
21mmikulka
      ID: 32128616
      Mon, Feb 06, 2023, 17:28
In
22Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Feb 06, 2023, 17:36
<14> How bout we set the leagues, and THEN let people vote on the platform?

I suspect that the vote would favor Yahoo, though our tradition favors ESPN. This would be my only ESPN league out of five rotoguru leagues, should ESPN gain favor.
23s R
      ID: 3125161
      Tue, Feb 07, 2023, 02:41
In
24maspero
      ID: 213873
      Tue, Feb 07, 2023, 04:44
Rotten Amoebas are in
25Dave R
      ID: 568551821
      Thu, Feb 09, 2023, 07:46
I'll play
26holt
      ID: 40943015
      Thu, Feb 09, 2023, 17:20
since it's been brought up, my opinion, ESPN blows. Yahoo is fine.
27ksoze
      ID: 23150104
      Fri, Feb 10, 2023, 05:50
In
28Perm Dude
      ID: 28128412
      Fri, Feb 10, 2023, 09:13
Fred's Fantastic Team is in.

Much prefer Yahoo, despite the news that they are eliminating their messaging.
29Jason
      ID: 36120126
      Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 07:20
I am IN.
30Seattle Zen
      ID: 121381014
      Sun, Feb 12, 2023, 13:39
In
31Nerfherders
      ID: 56261418
      Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 19:47
It looks like we're getting close to having enough for both leagues.

I'm wondering if we could make both leagues Yahoo?
32Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 20:27
I count 25 IN, including taxman, who did not play last year. These 8 have not chimed in:

RIBC
5 Milchian Magicians 110.5
11 Wiggs Supernovas 62
14 Sandor Kiss 42
15 Crack Babies 39

AAA
1 Da Bomb Squad 127.5
5 YWC's Yumbelievable Team 107
9 Graydog 81.5
12 Brent's Incredible Team 63.5



33JeffG
      ID: 40132610
      Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 10:03
My preference would be ESPN. Still think we split the 32 teams into an ESPN league and a Yahoo league.
34Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 10:27
Well, I have heard a few people say this sort of thing. I am confused by it, frankly. The unique thing about RIBC is that it is a hierarchical competition.

Why would we destroy the one thing that makes RIBC special over a platform choice? Which of you has stock in Yahoo, or Disney?
35Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 10:35
Well, I guess I'll join in the brinksmanship everyone is doing here.

I really dont care which platform we use, but I believe it should not be chosen by one person. Let the majority rule.

If we do not continue the hierarchical format we have always had in the past, I am out.
36JeffG
      ID: 40132610
      Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 11:56
My votes are simply preference, but will go along with league/majority decision on both, love the format and enjoy the folks in these leagues and hope we keep it going.

ESPN vs Yahoo
- preference - ESPN


hierarchical (Majors/AAA) or split by platform (Yahoo/ESPN)
- preference - hierarchical
37 Matt G
      ID: 37931259
      Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 14:38
In, I missed the boat last year.
38Nerfherders
      ID: 56261418
      Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 15:29
My preference: Yahoo, Hierarchical
39Crack Babies
      ID: 43121811
      Sat, Feb 18, 2023, 12:02
In. Sorry so long to respond.
40Dave R
      ID: 568551821
      Sat, Feb 18, 2023, 12:35
If we are voting, Yahoo by a mile
41Species
      ID: 1412613
      Sat, Feb 18, 2023, 14:14
Heirarchal.

Yahoo but will play either.
42Crack Babies
      ID: 22115166
      Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 12:29
Prefer Yahoo also.
43 twilson
      ID: 43131917
      Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 18:03
I'd like to play again. Prefer ESPN
44Wiggs
      ID: 111162018
      Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 19:16
I'll play again if you need more. I prefer yahoo
45Seattle Zen
      ID: 111102011
      Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 19:24
I think we are now up to 29 managers, just three more to go.
46holt
      ID: 40943015
      Tue, Feb 21, 2023, 01:11
Yahoo, Hierarchical

has espn still not started providing a team log? I think if they brought that feature back then I wouldn't care which we used. Yahoo also has great start sorting. don't remember how espn stacks up there.
47Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Feb 21, 2023, 12:34
<45> I think that we have enough for two leagues is a given. I am sure we'd have volunteers to play in two leagues to fill both out, if we do a hierarchical format, that is.

<46> I prefer Yahoo for two reasons. First, its the platform that just about every league at rotoguru uses, and needing to switch to ESPN for one league is a PITA.

The second reason is that Yahoo provides a league stat specific ranking of every player (Current ranking). That helps to evaluate a player's worth in the stats of the league you are playing in vs ADP or Pre-season rankings. For me, it often helps in establishing a starting point for determining player value for trades and roster add/drop decisions.
48Da Bomb
      ID: 351102115
      Tue, Feb 21, 2023, 16:11
In. Prefer Yahoo, hierarchal.

Yahoo also has average per game sort rankings where ESPN does not. Yahoo's standings view comes with a nifty graph. Their position eligibility is more generous too. ESPN does have the Ohtani designation advantage.
49Wiggs
      ID: 111162018
      Tue, Feb 21, 2023, 18:00
I'll play again if you need more. I prefer yahoo
50C1-NRB
      ID: 576541616
      Tue, Feb 21, 2023, 22:13
Yahoo, hierarchical
51Wiggs
      ID: 111162018
      Thu, Feb 23, 2023, 07:44
I'll play again if you need more. I prefer yahoo
52JeffG
      ID: 25323010
      Thu, Feb 23, 2023, 13:37
First of all this is not my league, it’s ours, but I am glad to help move the ball downfield or yield if someone else does

Here is the plan. By tomorrow evening I’ll have the list of managers that qualified for the 2023 majors and AAA from last season results. Each one will then work independently to choose an all benevolent commissioner who can then work with the managers to decide platform, draft schedule, etc.
53Nerfherders
      ID: 56261418
      Thu, Feb 23, 2023, 14:04
For reference, this is what we did for qualifying last year:

"Top 8 RIBC 2021 qualifies for RIBC.
Top 4 each AAA 2021 qualifies for RIBC.

We seem to be missing managers, so I would also propose priority for qualifying to RIBC as such:

9-10 RIBC
5-6 AAA
11-12 RIBC
7-10 AAA"

With only two leagues available for the pool, I would recommend having top 6 RIBC and AAA advancing, with the last four in this order (or to fill in from non-returning managers):

7-8 RIBC
7-8 AAA
9-10 RIBC
9-10 AAA

Any managers who did not play in 2022 go into AAA.
54JeffG
      ID: 40132610
      Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 11:44
Here are the 2023 PRELIMINARY LEAGUE ASSIGNMENTS.

The suggestion was 10 from the majors and 6 from AAA to make up league but because there was a TIE for 6th in AAA, I'll assign both to the majors and bump 10th in RIBC (me.. argh).

RIBC 2023
FROM RIBC
1 Smith and 9th
2 Foot’s Acrobats
3 Uptown Bombers
4 Team Mikulka
5 Milchian Magicians (TWILSON)
6 I_AM_CANADIAN IAC
7 GREAT ONE
8 Bean's Guardians
9 Blue Hen

FROM AAA
1 Da Bomb
2 Filthy
3 Holt
4 Jason
5 YWK
6T Species
6T ksoze

YWK has not committed yet.. so I may get the call up yet to the majors. Lets give them until Tuesday 2/28.. if someone knows this person, get in touch.

So here is AAA 2023
Commits from RIBC 2022
10 JeffG RIBC
11 Wiggs Supernovas
12 Seattle Zen
13 Rotten Amoebas (Maspero)
15 Crack Babies (El Fatador)
16 s R (eserel)

Commits from AAA 2022
8 Nerfherders
11 Perm Dude
13 Fosten
14 loki
15 SANFORDORS (DaveR)
16 C1-NRB

commits who missed 2022, in for 2023
1. taxman

So that gives us 13 for now (12 if I move to RIBC)

Non Commits - whoever replies first can fill in the final 3 or 4 slots. Otherwise please help recruit to fill final spots

RIBC 14 Sandor Kiss
AAA 9 Graydog
AAA 12 Brent (electroman)


dropping out
AAA 10 gurudan

Next step
- figure out if i screwed this up
- each league needs a volunteer to commish.
- each commish should open up a new thread, decide platform, agree on draft schedule, start draft position drawing.

I have an almost complete email list with everyone, and can share with 2023 commissioners.
55Nerfherders
      ID: 56261418
      Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 12:06
I believe Matt G also signed up. He missed 2022.

I can commish AAA again.
56Nerfherders
      ID: 56261418
      Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 12:11
twilson too, as I'm checking the sign-ins.
57JeffG
      ID: 40132610
      Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 12:59
[56] Twilson is in RIBC this year - Milchian Magicians = TWILSON

[55] thanks Nerf... sorry to Matt G who I missed, we need a few more managers to fill AAA, everyone see if you can recruit, otherwise we can allow double ups for those from RIBC interested in another AAA team
58JeffG
      ID: 40132610
      Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 17:02
OK... Lets get the ball rolling.

RIBC - majors. Do we have a volunteer commissioner? Filthy mentioned at the top of this post he would consider.

Smith and 9th
Foot’s Acrobats
Uptown Bombers
Team Mikulka
Milchian Magicians (TWILSON)
I_AM_CANADIAN IAC
GREAT ONE
Bean's Guardians
Blue Hen
JeffG
Da Bomb
Filthy
Holt
Jason
YWK
Species
ksoze

RIBC AAA - Nerf to commish
Wiggs Supernovas
Seattle Zen
Rotten Amoebas (Maspero)
Crack Babies (El Fatador)
s R (eserel)
Nerfherders
Perm Dude
Fosten
loki
SANFORDORS (DaveR)
C1-NRB
taxman
MattG
(open)
(open)
(open)

Any takers for one of the three open AAA slots? Anyone know anyone who may be interested.

Next step - each commish finalize their leagues, decide on what platform, set up draftime and the fantasy league on yahoo/espn and get the draft pick selection started as soon as possible.

25 rounds. Opening day in 30 days.. We have to target a draft start by monday 3/6 at the latest.
59Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 18:35
<58> Are you not going to commish the RIBC - majors league, even though you are in it?

If you need an additional AAA, I'd volunteer to play in both leagues.

"25 rounds" Are we doing the extra "COVID" slot again? If so, why not just make it 26 rounds?
60Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 19:13
I'd rather not have managers doubled up, so please start scouring for managers!

I'm not terribly worried about finishing the draft. We will need about 15 days, but I'll be shooting for starting on the 10th.
61 Vampireweekend
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 20:14
I will take a team if one is still available.
62filthy
      ID: 42148320
      Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 03:30
I resist committing to commish because of a slight chance of travel mid-March, but will act as commish until coming up with a workaround at that time or until somebody else says they'd rather do it.

After a few weeks, now into March, I think we could feel safe giving up YWC's spot in the majors to finalize one league. I just tried sending a message through last year's yahoo league if we wanna give it another day but if I hadn't thought to check in so far, I wouldn't be upset about another year in AAA. Will also message graydog and sandorkiss tomorrow to see if we can get both leagues filled.
63ywk
      ID: 5623812
      Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 03:38
I'm in whichever league I could join
64 Philsphan
      ID: 471182613
      Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 10:45
If you need one more I’ll join the AAA league.
65JeffG
      ID: 40132610
      Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 11:49
So AAA is now full and we are good to go

RIBC AAA - Nerf to commish
Wiggs Supernovas
Seattle Zen
Rotten Amoebas (Maspero)
Crack Babies (El Fatador)
s R (eserel)
Nerfherders
Perm Dude
Fosten
loki
SANFORDORS (DaveR)
C1-NRB
taxman
MattG
ywk
vampire weekend
philsphan


@YWK - i see you qualified for the majors, since you did not reply by 2/28 i assigned that spot to the next up (me)... BUT if you want to claim that spot, let us know and you and i can switch before things get too deep in the set up - and I'll take the AAA slot
66ywk
      ID: 5623812
      Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 22:47
Would it be too late for me to claim the big league spot? I won't insist if it is difficult to do the switch though.
67JeffG
      ID: 25323010
      Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 23:10
Done. YWK goes to majors, I drop to AAA
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