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Posted by: AlLeN IvErSoN
- [5610442122] Mon, Apr 16, 16:55

Not much baseball action ‘til 7 PM EST so I thought I should make a thread to kill some time yo- you know what I’m sayin? I heard this commercial about a book of adages and I was wondering how many of those we can collect in this thread right here yo. It ain’t matter if it’s sports related or whatever- as long as they adages… So let me start of with some… I provided the meaning to those that that ain’t very popular or ain’t self-explanatory

Open up a can of worms...
Bury the hatchet... (which means truce)
I know (something) like the back of my hand...
Give 110% effort...
Take it one game at a time...
Even a fish would be all right if it didn’t open its mouth (Vin Scully said a Dodger said this to Gary Sheffield in a nice way)...
It ain’t over til it’s over...

These are just the ones I can think on top of my head right now yo- but I know there are more for sho
1Strike One
      ID: 39252299
      Mon, Apr 16, 17:08
actually allen, i don't know what you're "sayin". but whatever.

favorite ernie harwell phrases..."
"...and that ball is loooooong gone..."
"...he stood there like a stump by the side of the road as he watched that one go by"
"...line drive into the stands and a fan from (insert city close to ball park here) took that one home.."
2Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Mon, Apr 16, 17:12
"Holy Cow"...Harry Carey
"Hey Hey"... Jack Brickhouse
"Swung on Belted"... Chip Carey
all right I got those behind me.

"The whole 9 yards"... Means going all out, from WW2(i think) bombers who had 9 yards worth of bombs to drop.

3CanEHdian Pride
      ID: 426351415
      Mon, Apr 16, 18:23
funny Wammie, my dad and I were trying to figure out if we knew the meaning of "9 yards" the other day. Neither one of us came up with anything.

Good job AI...i learned something.
4The Beezer
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Apr 16, 18:58
"Wherever you go, there you are"
"Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug"
"When life gives you lemons, pick up some Cuervo to go with them" :)
5AlLeN IvErSoN
      ID: 5610442122
      Mon, Apr 16, 19:04
adages are lines like "life is like a box of chocolate- you never know wat you're gonna get" or something like that dogg... they ain't really quotes from announcers like "the game is in the refrigerator- the butter is hard, the jello is jiggling"- you know wat i mean dunn?
thanks anyways cuh
6Free Gamer
      ID: 211461812
      Mon, Apr 16, 20:05
'Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt. ;)
7Species
      ID: 492332715
      Mon, Apr 16, 20:19
I think it was Mark Twain that uttered the famous refrigerator/jello quote.....
8AlLeN IvErSoN
      ID: 5610442122
      Tue, Apr 17, 00:02
"That is exactly what the doctors ordered"... (when you get exactly what you wanted- good example: bases loaded, 0 outs... groundout back to the mound to start a 1-2-3 double play)
9Braver
      ID: 48349510
      Tue, Apr 17, 00:05
Fair enough
10Razor
      ID: 48238516
      Tue, Apr 17, 00:12
This is the worst thread I've seen in my entire life.
11puckprophet
      ID: 1810352017
      Tue, Apr 17, 00:40
actually , the whole nine-yards refers to early cement trucks (with a capacity of !9 cubic yds)...
12AlLeN IvErSoN
      ID: 5610442122
      Wed, Apr 18, 02:33
yo Razor raHOMOn- actually dogg, there's at least 3 threads worst than this one... Dodgers part I, Dodgers part II, and Dodgers part III.
The whole Dodger organization is a muthaFkin joke yo- and you know exactly wat I mean dogg...
They spend the most dough in the major leagues almost every year and they ain't even have no ice to show for it- hell yo, they ain't even got a pennant to show for it- nevermind the bling bling dogg
I'm sure they buy their fans too yo- who'd cheer for a team that's more fun to watch off the field than on it... Fox should start their own little sitcom bout their controversies- first episode- Gary 5hitfield is butthurt about making only $10mil...

haha- by the way dunn, who do you think will win? Kevin "The failman" Malone or the fan?
13Roo
      ID: 5405365
      Wed, Apr 18, 06:58
From http://www.quinion.com/words/articles/nineyards.htm:

THE WHOLE NINE YARDS
But nine yards of what?

There are some queries that we answerers of questions on the story of the English language get asked more often than others. "What is the third word ending in gry?" has come top of the list by a good margin. But "Where does the whole nine yards come from?" runs it a close second.
If you're hoping for a definitive answer, you'd better buy a crystal ball. I have to say straight away this is one of the great unsolved mysteries of modern etymology, for which many seek the truth and almost as many find explanations, but hardly anyone has a clue. What we do know is that the phrase is recorded from the 1960s, is an Americanism (it's nothing like so well known in Britain, for example), and has the meaning of "everything; all of it; the whole lot; the works". But there are no leads anyone can discover to a reasonable idea of where it came from.

What is most remarkable about the phrase is the number of attempts that have been made to explain it. This may be because it's an odd expression. But perhaps our need to make sense of this saying in particular is because it came into existence only during the lifetime of many people still with us, and so lacks the patina of age that turns phrases into naturalised idioms that we accept without question.

While looking into it, I've seen references to the size of a nun's habit, the amount of material needed to make a man's three-piece suit, the length of a maharajah's ceremonial sash, the capacity of a West Virginia ore wagon, the volume of rubbish that would fill a standard garbage truck, the length of a hangman's noose, how far you would have to sprint during a jail break to get from the cellblock to the outer wall, the length of a standard bolt of cloth, the volume of a rich man's grave, or just possibly the length of his shroud, the size of a soldier's pack, the length of cloth needed for a Scottish "great kilt", or some distance associated with sports or athletics, especially the game of American football.

None of these has anything going for it except the unsung inventiveness of compulsive explainers. For example, a man's suit requires about five square yards of material; anyone who thinks a soldier's pack could measure nine cubic yards is dimensionally challenged; and I'm told it takes ten yards to earn a first down in American football, not nine.

One particularly bizarre story that turns up more frequently than any other is that it represents the capacity of a ready-mixed cement truck, so that the whole nine yards might be a reference to a complete load. It does seem rather unlikely that a term from such a specialist field would become so well known throughout North America, but one or two writers are convinced this is the true origin. However, the capacity of today's trucks vary a great deal, and few of them can actually carry nine cubic yards of concrete. Matthew Jetmore, a contributor to the alt.folklore.urban newsgroup, unearthed evidence from the August 1964 issue of the Ready Mixed Concrete Magazine that this could not have been the origin: "Whereas, just a few years ago, the 4.5 cubic yard mixer was definitely the standard of the industry, the average nationwide mixer size by 1962 had increased to 6.24 cubic yards, with still no end in sight to the demand for increased payload". That makes it clear that at the time the expression was presumably coined the usual size was only about half the nine (cubic) yards of the saying.

Another relates to the idea of yards being the long spars on a ship rather than units of measurement. The argument is that a three-masted ship had three yards on each mast for the square sails, making nine in all. So that a ship with all sail set would be using the whole nine yards. The biggest problem here is dating - by the time the expression came into use, sailing ships were long gone; even if the phrase were fifty years older than its first certified appearance (unlikely, but not impossible), it would still be right at the very end of the sailing-ship era, and long after its heyday. Other problems are that big square-rigged sailing ships commonly had more than nine yards and that the expression ought in that case to be all nine yards rather than the whole nine yards (the same objection could be made about other suggestions that involve numbers rather than areas or volumes). Another attempt at relating the expression to sailing ships has it that nine yards is somehow related to the area of canvas, but a full-rigged ship had vastly more than nine square yards of sail.

Yet another explanation is that it was invented by fighter pilots in the Pacific during World War Two. It is said the .50 calibre machine gun ammunition belts in Supermarine Spitfires measured exactly 27 feet. If the pilots fired all their ammo at a target, they would say that it got "the whole nine yards". A merit of this claim is that it would explain why the phrase only began to be recorded after the War.

Some writers argue that the number isn't a dimension of any kind: Jonathon Green, in his Cassell Dictionary of Slang, suggests that it's most likely to represent a use of nine as a mystic number, after the fashion of nine tailors, the nine muses, and several other expressions; Jesse Sheidlower thinks that it may be related in this way to the number in the equally odd expression dressed to the nines.

What do I believe? I believe that, failing the discovery of the lexicographical equivalent of the crock of gold at the end of the rainbow, we are unlikely to find out the truth about this one.
14Motley Crue
      ID: 4633167
      Wed, Apr 18, 09:05
Duh, hasn't anyone ever considered that it was related to football??

I always assumed it referred to a third or fourth down with nine yards to go, and they have to go for it to win the game. Thus, the all inclusive nature of the saying: we need to get everything=the whole nine yards.
15Cabanadan
      ID: 2126287
      Wed, Apr 18, 09:29
West Siyeeed Dawgz!!!! Ruff ruff ruff!!!But umm I'd have to say I agree with Latino Heat over there, ther Dodgers are a horrible organization (well at least right now). I can't stand GM's who want to take the fast and easy way out. They are not baseball fans they are business men. They make business decisions and in baseball you Can't win unless you mix a little of both. Sure the Yankees win because they spend $ BUT the reason why teams like the Yanks, Braves etc are constantly consisten is because they have $ AND baseball sense! The Rangers, Dodgers, Marlins, etc think that $ will buy them success. How stupid is Texas to spend THAT much money on 1 player when they could have spent half of that...gotten a decent shortstop...some pitching help...and invested the other 100 million into your minor leagues, scouts, research, etc etc. Ridiculous. Where the hell do the Rangers honestly think they're going to go with that pitching staff?? I mean come on. Anyways that's just my 2 cents, I hate the Dodgers simply because they do not remind me of a "team" when I watch them, all I see is individual players...Watch the Blue Jays closely...they are playing like a team! With the exception of Escobar everyone is happy and everyone is cheering for each other. Everyone is confident and nobody wants to let the rest of the team down...you think Sheffield gives a rats arse if he lets the team down? All he wants to do is put up #'s so he can make more $. Dodgers won't even make the playoffs (I hope) anyways just MHO. Oh...P.s. Hopefully all my peeps will see what I'm sayin' eh yo? Ya naw what I mean my peep jigga west siders...aaaaaight....(sorry just thought I'd give a shout out to my main peep Razor...woof woof woof...*smirk*
16Motley Crue
      ID: 4633167
      Wed, Apr 18, 09:35
yo
17swiss beats
      ID: 143131810
      Wed, Apr 18, 10:37
ay yo ay yo lights out one two one two B
who's that girl! la la la la la la la la la
eve's that girl! la la la la la la la la la
18Roo
      ID: 5405365
      Wed, Apr 18, 10:44
I was hoping that posting 1000 words would have killed this thread. :0(
19CanEHdian Pride
      ID: 426351415
      Wed, Apr 18, 14:58
I'd like to hope it isn't as easy as a football reference. I mean why is it 9 yards. Why not the whole 10 yards or the whole 7 yards.

I think there is another meaning out there.
20Motley Crue
      ID: 4633167
      Wed, Apr 18, 15:08
So what do you think, then, CP? It has to do with the maharajah's ceremonial dress?
21pogophiles
      ID: 3245839
      Wed, Apr 18, 15:40
I don't think Hornsby wore a sash, ceremonial or otherwise.
22jedi_council
      ID: 451571316
      Wed, Apr 18, 15:58
I've never heard that one Razor. (Post #10)
24blue hen, Guru Jr.
      ID: 85281611
      Wed, Aug 01, 00:25
Maybe I am a loser, but at least no one knows
25blue hen, Guru Jr.
      ID: 85281611
      Wed, Aug 01, 00:34
I'm not ugly, I'm visually challenging
26Y2JS
      ID: 48312723
      Wed, Aug 01, 00:34
Im down with AI up on these boards so dont dis this thread. Look at it like this, at least your ebonics will improve
27blue hen, Guru Jr.
      ID: 85281611
      Wed, Aug 01, 01:22
I am not sure if this is what you would exactly call a quote unquote adage, but I say it all the time... "I don't give a 5hit! You're the one who has to look at me!!"
and also, I hear people say this to me all the time
"It's okay, Dave, if you think about it, beauty is only a lightswitch away"
"It's okay, Dave, you have other qualities other than your face"
28Tim G
      ID: 1611393123
      Wed, Aug 01, 01:36
Here's one I never understood, "It's as scarce as hen's teeth."
29AlLeN IvErSoN
      Leader
      ID: 34937217
      Wed, Aug 01, 08:35
I need to stop posting as blue hen, Guru Jr. And more importantly, when I do it, I need to be funnier, and not immediately tell him that I did it.
30The_Mentors
      ID: 9432248
      Wed, Aug 01, 09:47
What happened to the poop thread. I liked that one.
31SuperMex13
      ID: 578110
      Wed, Aug 01, 11:16
Try renting the movie "The Whole Nine Yards" with Matthew Perry, Bruce Willis, & MCD. Pretty funny movie with a hot chick.

-Roger Ebert
32blue hen, Guru Jr.
      Leader
      ID: 34937217
      Wed, Aug 01, 12:52
I like that movie. Especially the full frontal nudity.
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