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Subject: 2024 Political Baseball Pre-season
Posted by: Perm Dude
- [150252913] Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 14:25
Check in time. I'll renew the league and we can swap in new managers if needed, but let's have a head count please. |
| 1 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 14:27
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In
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| 2 | Mudville 9
ID: 550282913
Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 14:29
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I'm in.
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| 3 | daleteekz
ID: 480292913
Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 14:29
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In
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| 4 | Joe
ID: 550372913
Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 14:38
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In
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| 5 | Bobo
ID: 360192914
Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 15:19
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In.
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| 6 | WG
ID: 89402220
Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 15:37
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In
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| 7 | mailedfoot
ID: 20442915
Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 16:44
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In
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| 8 | C1-NRB
ID: 54727229
Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 18:18
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In.
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| 9 | taxman
ID: 28081719
Tue, Jan 30, 2024, 02:37
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In
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| 10 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Tue, Jan 30, 2024, 22:55
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In
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| 11 | Phil Turner
ID: 11702516
Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 19:02
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In
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| 12 | artofmonk
ID: 1615215
Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 16:05
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in
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| 13 | biliruben
ID: 5158412
Sun, Feb 04, 2024, 13:58
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Sorry. In
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| 14 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Feb 14, 2024, 12:04
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So, that's all 14 returning, right?
Tentative schedule? Season starts on 20 MAR in Seoul, which may be 19 MAR in the USA.
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| 15 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 17:51
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I compiled a list of last year's prospects and checked them for eligibility. I did not account for traded prospects in the owner column, you can figure that out.
link
Let me know if you see any errors.
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| 16 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 22:04
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Reposting this summary from last season's thread. The bracketed numbers are a post number reference:
Pick Trade Summary
<218> Bobo sends 2024 1st - Bean sends 2024 15th
<220> Taxman sends 2024 1st - Bean sends 2024 14th
<222> Phil sends 2024 2nd and 3rd - Bean sends 2024 12th and 13th
<224> Phil sends 2024 1st - Joe sends 2024 14th
<228> Dale sends 2024 2nd - Bean sends 2024 11th
Prospect Trade Summary
<218> Bean sends Felix Bautista to Bobo
<234> WG sends Tink Hence to Joe
<238> WG send Taj Bradley to Foot
<247> WG sends Masyn Winn to Phil
<259> WG sends Triston Casas to PD
<261> WG sends Endy Rodriguez to Mudville
<264> C1 sends Pete Crow Armstrong to Phil
<266> WG sends Nick Yorke to C1
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| 17 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 22:16
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Wow, I got a ton. Including my own, I have three firsts, three 2nds and two thirds. How'd that happen? Better not mess this one up.
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| 18 | Phil Turner
ID: 3212349
Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 06:53
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Good day all.
When everyone gets going. Diaz, Reds closer will be available for mlb draft pick and a prospect.
1st or 2nd rd pick plus a prospect.
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| 19 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 22:18
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How much time do we need for the two drafts? 10 days? Start around March 8-9?
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| 20 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 22:46
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Here's the tentative schedule PD posted last year. Don't know how close we stuck to it, but you can figure we need to do these steps 10 days earlier this year with those Seoul games. So,for example, the keepers would be due on March 3rd vs Mar 13th.
TENTATIVE SCHEDULE:
Keepers due March 13th
March 13 Prospect Draft begins (immediately after keepers declared)
March 20 Prospect Draft ends
March 20 Regular Draft begins (sooner, if WE GET THE Prospect Draft done earlier)
March 28 Regular Draft Ends (or sooner, God willing)
March 30th Start of Season
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| 21 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 23:04
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I also noticed post #36 from last season's thread:
"dale has to be commish next year as punishment"
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| 22 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 23:34
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And as another response to the large number of people picking up someone else's prospect, this solution was offered:
"The solution is simple. When people do this we just put a stop on their ability to pick up FAs for a week. Second time they do it, its two weeks, etc.
They don't like it, they quit and the problem goes away.
All in favor? ;)"
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| 23 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 09:43
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The Poli Baseball League Constitution
Rule Changes
In order for a new rule or rule change to pass, we need a majority the league (not voters) to vote yes. This is currently 8 of 14. The manager who proposes the rule should make a reasonable effort to publicize that there is a vote going on. If a majority do not vote for the proposal within a week, the proposal fails.
Yahoo Baseball
7 keepers; No more than 5 prospect keepers
Next Day Transactions - Daily/Tomorrow
Waivers - Continual Rolling List - 1 day waiver period
Trade Deadline - Closest Sunday to August 31st
Trade Review - League Votes
Supplemental draft picks may be traded
Scoring Settings
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util
SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL, DL
Max IP - 1400
Batters Categories: Runs (R), Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases
(SB), On Base Percentage (OBP)
Pitchers Categories: Quality Starts (QS), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average
(ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)
MLB Supplemental Draft
Draft Utility - Draftime
Player must be in the Yahoo database at the time he is picked in the
supplemental draft.
No time limit initially, unless deemed necessary
Straight Draft, Reverse order of standings
Prospect Draft & Rules
Straight Draft, Reverse order of standings
To be conducted BEFORE the Supplemental Draft
Under 300 AB's or 125 IP to be draft eligible
Any player at any level (as long as they are under limits) can be drafted as prospect. College, International, Little League etc.
You can retain up to 5 prospect eligible players from one season to next
There are 8 rounds in the prospect draft - minus a pick for each prospect you carry over.
ALL teams are entitled to EXACTLY 8 prospects by the end of the prospect draft. NO TEAM will be allowed to have any number other than eight prospects at the end of the prospect draft.
Prospects may be called up in-season and can be sent back and forth to prospect list until the end of the season in which they exceeded the stated prospect limits. As with our new rule, managers can keep prospects for the entire season in which they exceed their stated prospect level limits. So, if your prospect hits the limit in May, you may still hold his rights as a prospect until the beginning of the following season. Prospects may be called up or sent down anytime in-season or off-season prior to keeper declaration. If called up and made an MLB keeper, prospects will lose their prospect status.
Prospect rights may be traded.
Prospect picks may be traded as long as receiving team has enough spots to make the draft pick at time of draft.
You can trade for as many prospects as you like - however you'll need to have 5 or less at the time of the Prospect Draft
Poli League Trophy Case
2001 Toral
2003 Baldwin
2004 Skanks 4 Bush
2005 Baldwin
2006 1625 K St Allstars
2007 Biliruben
2008 Biliruben
2009 Tree
2010 Biliruben
2011 Nerveclinic
2012 Great One
2013 Wazaaap Guy
2014 Great One
2015 Wazaaap Guy
2016 Nerveclinic
2017 Meatwads
2018 Meatwads/Nerveclinic
2019 Wazaaap Guy
2020 Nerveclinic
2021 Biliruben
2022 Wazaaap Guy
2023 Nerveclinic
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| 24 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 09:51
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As Bean points out above, the games in Korea things get moved a little bit earlier this year.
TENTATIVE SCHEDULE:
Keepers due March 13th
March 3 Prospect Draft begins (immediately after keepers declared)
March 10 Prospect Draft ends
March 10 Regular Draft begins (sooner, if WE GET THE Prospect Draft done earlier)
March 18 Regular Draft Ends (or sooner, God willing)
Wednesday March 20th Start of Season
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| 25 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 10:24
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Keepers due March 3rd, I assume.
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| 26 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 11:05
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Yeah, seems just a typo Bili
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| 27 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 12:20
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I renewed the Draft Time draft. I assigned co-admin to Perm Dude, didn't see how to assign admin. PD, if you want to get the regular admin privilege, you'll need to create the league from scratch.
I also gave co-admin privileges to WG and Nerveclinic, who have helped in the past.
For everyone, check to make sure you still remember your Draft Time username and password, and that "Poliboard Baseball" is listed as one of your active drafts. Let me know if you have any issues.
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| 28 | WG
ID: 89402220
Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 14:17
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Thanks for all the work and effort, Bean!
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| 29 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Sat, Feb 24, 2024, 00:55
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Bean thanks so much for all you do.
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| 30 | Perm Dude
ID: 461362412
Sat, Feb 24, 2024, 13:36
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#25: Yeah, just a typo.
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| 31 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 15:05
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Nerveclinic trades Francisco Lindor to Mudville 9 for Mudville's first round pick. For Nerves last round pick.
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| 32 | Mudville 9
ID: 550282913
Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 15:08
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Confirm.
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| 33 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sat, Mar 02, 2024, 09:08
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keepers due tomorrow.
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| 34 | WG
ID: 89402220
Sat, Mar 02, 2024, 12:41
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in the market for another keeper, if anyone has an idea. open to a pick swap or 1 for 2.
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| 35 | Joe
ID: 26118267
Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 17:12
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Time for today's keeper deadline?
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| 36 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 18:57
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Seems everyone has posted keepers except:
Nerveclinic
artofmonk
Perm Dude (posted, but no prospects?)
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| 37 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 19:31
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BTW,
I learned that Yahoo has changed some things with off-line drafting keeper leagues.
During the draft of the G20 Hoops League, I learned that loading players with the draft tool as the draft progresses, no longer works as expected.
Unless you start the league, THEN do regular player adds, the entire rosters from the previous season will not appear in available players. So, that means, even if a guy was not kept, he will not appear as available.
Having someone doing regular player adds as commish is a clunky solution, that requires more work.
If I were to guess, you'll need to track available players on your own this season. Easy way is to load a pre-ranked players list to draft time. Of course, you won't see the player stats so easy.
Enjoy
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| 38 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 21:13
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Nerve and Art have a few hours yet to post keepers.
I've doublechecked prospect limits and we're good so far (Joe wins the Price is Right Prize, with Bobby Miller).
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| 39 | Joe
ID: 26118267
Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 21:33
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Black Death Returns has agreed to send Phil's 2024 1st round pick to Nerveclinic for Luis Castillo and Nerve's second to last 2024 MLB draft pick.
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| 40 | artofmonk
ID: 51226321
Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 22:50
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posted
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| 41 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 22:55
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Black Death Returns has agreed to send Phil's 2024 1st round pick to Nerveclinic for Luis Castillo and Nerve's second to last 2024 MLB draft pick.
Confirmed
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| 42 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 08:18
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Nerve--we need keepers from you.
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| 43 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 09:17
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Ugh--WG reminded me that I neglected two other prospect keepers. Since Nerve hasn't posted, I'm taking the initiative and updating now.
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| 44 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 09:47
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dead·line
/ˈdedˌlīn/
noun
1.
the latest time or date by which something should be completed.
"the deadline for submissions is February 5th"
Similar:
time limit
limit
finishing date
finishing time
target date
target time
cutoff point
2.
HISTORICAL
a line drawn around a prison beyond which prisoners were liable to be shot.
I volunteer for the firing squad!
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| 45 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 10:29
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Go read the keeper page Bean, it says keepers due the 13th.
Go read right above here it says the 13th. I looked quickly and that's what I saw.
I didn't read further and see that the prospect draft starts the 4th. Why doesn't it say prospect keepers due the 3rd?
So what is it? Are the keepers due the 13th? Like it says in 2 different places? Or are they due now?
It doesn't really work to be so snarky Bean, when you can see the directions were written poorly, and it's easy to get confused.
I still appreciate all your help.
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| 46 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 10:40
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Ready......Aim........!!!!!!!!
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| 47 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 10:46
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You want to keep it up Bean?
The instructions say the 13th, I didn't see the correction.
Are you just having a bad day Bean?
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| 48 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 10:46
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;)
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| 49 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 13:23
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OK, updating my spreadsheets and will open up the prospect draft thread this afternoon.
Everyone: Please mark your keepers in Yahoo if you haven't already.
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| 50 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 13:48
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As far as I can tell, no prospect draft pick slots were traded for this year. If I've overlooked anything let me know.
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| 51 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 15:17
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Pretty sure C1 is not entitled to keep Luis Morales as his prospect keeper. Take a look at post 57 of 2023 Political Baseball League Prospect Draft thread.
Morales was his 9th prospect, and he had to give him back. He will need to be given another draft pick in this year's prospect draft as a result.
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| 52 | C1-NRB
ID: 41218222
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 15:23
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Oops. I'll give Luis Morales back into the pool.
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| 53 | WG
ID: 89402220
Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 16:09
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TRADE
PD gets p1.11 and Esteury Ruiz
WG gets p1.02
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| 54 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 09:46
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confirmed
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| 55 | biliruben
ID: 4946618
Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 19:15
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In case the counting challenges Phil has is holding us up,
It's your turn, Bobo.
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| 56 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 10:43
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We're moving along. Good work so far.
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| 57 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 19:52
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And now at the end of the prospect draft, everyone holds their breath to see if Bean finds another bone headed mistake.
Seriously Bean you are the man, thanks for catching that and keeping us on track.
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| 58 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 20:05
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Thank you PD and Bean! This is a great league, but it takes a bit of work, for sure. I very much appreciate y'all keeping us on track, and everything "Marked and 'Membered."
(Bonus points identifying the movie quote. No cheating)
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| 59 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 20:25
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So....
Does Joe get to keep the pitcher Ohtani on the DL?
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| 60 | Perm Dude
ID: 44221218
Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 21:16
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I think he can keep him, but he can't start on the DL. He'll have to take up an active spot, then use a DL spot once moved when we begin the season.
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| 61 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 21:24
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But he won't really be on the DL, right? I mean, he's going to be busy hitting 50 home runs for my Dodgers.
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| 62 | Joe
ID: 40223420
Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 21:27
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Last year in another league, the SP half of Ohtani was IL eligible and the DH half was allowed to be used.
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| 63 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 21:27
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Huh. Ok. Cool with me. I guess it's a yahoo decision?
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| 64 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 22:54
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Just want to say, there was a joke here, that maybe only C1 and I heard the punch line from.
The controversy that dated back to last year's prospect draft was that C1 drafted a guy with his unauthorized 9th pick of the prospect draft.
As a result, he illegally kept the 9th prospect as a prospect keeper this year.
The late discovery of this discrepancy required that he be given an additional pick in this year's prospect draft.
In an ironic, perhaps intentional, but, none the less hilarious event.....He drafted the guy that the whole controversy started with.....Luis Morales with this additional pick.
C1, I gotta give props....friggin hilarious.
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| 65 | biliruben@gmail.com
ID: 341471718
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 10:20
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"During the draft of the G20 Hoops League, I learned that loading players with the draft tool as the draft progresses, no longer works as expected."
Wait. What?
I had no expectations, amd always tracked on my own.
I learn this is a thing just as it disappears?
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| 66 | Perm Dude
ID: 44221218
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 10:33
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As I'm loading keepers, I came across a question.
WG and I made a trade after keepers were declared and before the prospect draft. I got Ruiz and his first round prospect pick and he moved up in the draft in the first round of the prospect draft.
We both end up with the right number of prospect picks, so easy peasy, right? Nope.
Technically I now have too many keepers and WG has too few. Several ways to fix this.
Easiest way is to give my last draft pick to WG for the regular draft.
Or, I can drop a guy and he can get another keeper from his squad last year.
I'm inclined to go with option one but throwing it out for discussion while we still have time.
Thoughts?
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| 67 | WG
ID: 89402220
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 10:36
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Oh no worries, I didn't expect to get another keeper out of it. I can take your last pick in the regular draft or even just add a guy when the league starts.
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| 68 | biliruben@gmail.com
ID: 341471718
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 11:01
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I feel like Nerve might have done this a couple of times intentionally a decade or two ago, to get an extra keeper. We fought. Rules were suggested. Rules were made. Friends were won and lost. madman got even madder.
Now, older and wiser... well, older, I think you should do whatever the Commish suggests. ;)
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| 69 | biliruben@gmail.com
ID: 341471718
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 11:01
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Or maybe Tree....
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| 70 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 11:09
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sounds like a tree thing.
And Madman likely proposed as a solution some multi-state pact, with a minimum per-county delegate threshold...
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| 71 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 11:37
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BTW, there was only one Shohei in Draft Time this year, the DH. C1-NRB kept both Shohei's in 8Men Out and had to add another Shohei.
With an eye toward St Patrick's day, he added Shay O'Tanny, SP. So if the player is needed, you can just use that one.
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| 72 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:02
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It just seems like an honest mistake that none of us really thought through at the time. Technically the trade shouldn't have happened because it involves PD getting an 8th keeper, and it involves changing keepers after the deadline.
It's done now, no way to reverse it but I actually think that the second solution is closer to the original rules. PD should drop one keeper to get back to 7 and WG should take a 7th keeper from his dropped list?
The rules only allow 7 keepers so I am not sure how PD gets 8 before the draft?
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| 73 | WG
ID: 24241819
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:26
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I guess I thought of it as a post lock trade, and moving from 11 to 2 required a big cost which I thought I paid. So not giving PD an 8th keeper but just an 8th player ahead of the draft.
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| 75 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:42
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Let's just reverse part of that trade. I'll assign Ruiz back to WG as a keeper, will keep the same guys I posted, and maybe he and I will do a small deal later to make it up--a future considerations thing.
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| 76 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:44
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The simple fix for this is to absolutely deny mid-draft trades. End of discussion.
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| 77 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:47
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This wasn't even mid-draft. This was post-keepers, pre-draft.
An honest mistake, but a mistake nonetheless.
I finished keepers (including whatever prospects are in the drafttime system) and trades and will doublecheck in a sec. Give me like 5 minutes and I'll start the draft.
We usually start clockless, but I think some clock is necessary with this later start so we'll have a long clock with an overnight pause.
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| 78 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:59
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I keep forgetting the history of this league. Everyone here likes controversy. Sorry to offer solutions that attempt to end it. What was I thinking.
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| 79 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 13:02
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If you knew the actual political forum....
It was wild. Just wild.
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| 80 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 13:21
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Hey, it isn't clear that everyone declared keepers on yahoo. If you have, great. If not, please check if you can still do so, and do it asap so I can assign players to rosters as they are drafted.
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| 81 | Joe
ID: 40223420
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 13:27
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Selected all of mine just now, except for Luis Castillo since I traded for him just recently.
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| 82 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 14:55
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Please halt the draft, I am supposed to have 3 first round picks. Currently I have 1
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| 83 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 15:19
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How do you put the keepers in yahoo?
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| 84 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 15:44
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Halted
I am currently entering the prospect keepers and will have all keepers entered shortly.
If PD has not fixed the picks issue when I am done entering the keepers, I will look at what may be wrong in Draft Time.
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| 85 | Perm Dude
ID: 44221218
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:00
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Checking
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| 86 | Perm Dude
ID: 44221218
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:01
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The trades in #16 are entered. Looking for others.
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| 87 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:09
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<31> Nerveclinic trades Francisco Lindor to Mudville 9 for Mudville's first round pick. For Nerves last round pick.
<39> Black Death Returns has agreed to send Phil's 2024 1st round pick to Nerveclinic for Luis Castillo and Nerve's second to last 2024 MLB draft pick.
<53> TRADE
PD gets p1.11 and Esteury Ruiz
WG gets p1.02
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| 88 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:24
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Added the two Nerveclinic trades above
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| 89 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:25
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Restarted draft
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| 90 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:30
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Check Draft results at Yahoo. You should see your regular keepers there. Unfortunately with the changes they made with off line keeper leagues you cant see the prospects with the "K" yet. However, I did enter them.
Fred, you may want to check them.
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| 91 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 19:52
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Who the heck traded Nerve a pick in front of mine. I want answers.
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| 92 | Joe
ID: 40223420
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 20:31
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That would be me - for Luis Castillo before the keeper deadline last week.
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| 93 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 20:39
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Hah. Sounds suspicious, but I'll let this one slide. :)
I foolishly thought Lopez had a good chance to fall. Unfortunately Nerve and I often seem to be pulling from the same lists.
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| 94 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 21:00
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I would have taken him if nerve didn't
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| 95 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 10:12
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Looks like a good day to knock off a couple of rounds. Let's make it happen.
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| 96 | WG
ID: 89402220
Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 11:56
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Sorry for delay, busy morning at work but around the rest of the day.
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| 97 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 17:38
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What did I break?
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| 98 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 17:49
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PD has to pay the $10 to get past round 3
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| 99 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 17:53
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I was in touch with KKB yesterday--I'll remind him to unlock it.
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| 100 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 23:00
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What's going on?
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| 101 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 23:50
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The Russians, Chines, Iranians, and all of Central and South American are invading simultaneously.
It's a coordinated attack on your virgins and beer.
We will not survive it unless you go to www.givemeyourcash.com and pledge $100.
NOW!!!!
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| 102 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 23:51
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Oh, did I forget North Korea....them too. Pledge $200 just to be sure.
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| 103 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:00
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Virgins? Disinformation.
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| 104 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:02
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Let's just continue here in this thread, or prospect draft thread and fill it in. No reason to wait for the silly tech.
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| 105 | daleteekz
ID: 3522522
Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:04
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Does anyone have a list of picks made? Or am I missing the trick on how to view that right now?
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| 106 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:16
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We can use this is you like:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D77dcC7IFvLFXxLWKj7z7nNbPYc-v89_/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103035701820601036810&rtpof=true&sd=true
Here's the grid with all the players taken.
https://www.draftime.com/draft_grid.php?draft_id=1208
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| 107 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:17
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https://www.draftime.com/draft_all_picks.php?draft_id=1208&peek=true
This also shows all the picks.
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| 108 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:20
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Draft Results will give you what you ask for. Can't tell you what pick it is through.
Patience is the best policy. PD paid the $10 fee, but we are waiting for KKB to unlock the draft.
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| 109 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:22
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<103> To all the virgins I used to know......"Thanks for nothin'"
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| 110 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:29
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Daft Crime.
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| 111 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 01:06
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Accountants have balanced the books
Draft Stop over, clock reset, pause in effect.
C1 will be on the clock at 8 AM ET.
I hear taps in the distance, goin to bed,
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| 112 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 19:21
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I am likely going to start the Yahoo League tonight. Afterward, we can no longer add the "K" next to your prospects.
This link will show you your Draft Results.
If you pay attention to picks 15-22, you should see which of your prospects were in the database and marked with a "K".
You'll only have the rest of this evening to let me know if you see an error.
I'll be dropping all of your prospects, and will be doing regular player adds for the remainder of the draft. You should be able to use the player list to see who is still available afterward. Remember to look for the "K", like you do during the regular season.
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| 113 | WG
ID: 89402220
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:11
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Sorry, I made an error. I meant to pick this guy in 8 Men Out, not here. Can i get an undo please?
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| 114 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:22
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You are a co-admin in this draft WG
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| 115 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:25
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My 9.10 and 10.10 for your 8.XX and 15.XX. Any takers?
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| 116 | Perm Dude
ID: 44221218
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:26
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Pausing the draft for a couple of minutes to straighten out a pick.
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| 117 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:44
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Sure, Bean. You know we are on round 7 though, right?
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| 118 | Bobo
ID: 360192914
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:46
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Pick 6.11 is the pick needing to be corrected, yes?
That's my prospect.
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| 119 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:55
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fixed.
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| 120 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 12:03
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
Bean sends 2024 picks 9.10 and 10.10
Biliruben sends 2024 picks 8.07 and 15.07
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| 121 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 12:22
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confirmed
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| 122 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 23:10
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Does the clock turn off at, I don't know, 10-11PM EST?
It's still running and it's 11:10 here. People gotta sleep ya'll.
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| 123 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 23:44
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This is the daily pause which is depicted on the bottom of the draft page:
12 am ET - 8 am ET
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| 124 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 23:48
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Set your queue and sleep soundly. Two almost 3 hour gaps today was a bit of a bummer. Still almost a week before the Dodgers rock Korea though.
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| 125 | daleteekz
ID: 452531312
Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 00:05
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Welcome to my world. I usually wake up about 6am, so thats 2pm EST during basketball season, 4pm EST during baseball season.
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| 126 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 00:09
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Are you in Seoul, Dale?
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| 127 | daleteekz
ID: 452531312
Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 00:26
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Australia, north of Sydney.
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| 128 | C1-NRB
ID: 54727229
Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 01:30
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Apologies for 8.01
First, I set a queue. Check.
Next, I thought I turned it on to Auto-pick. Not Check; I turned it on 8 Men Out instead of Poliboard.
Last, I didn't check my email because of the previous two.
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| 129 | biliruben@gmail.com
ID: 341471718
Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 06:07
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No worries, C1. We've all been there.
EST eat PST early birds worm. Sydney should be the hawk that eats the whole bird in one gulp!
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| 130 | daleteekz
ID: 45237142
Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 06:46
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The positive is the games generally start at 9am for me. Gives me a good distraction during the work day.
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| 131 | artofmonk
ID: 14229822
Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 10:18
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any idea of why Shane McClanahan was not in the database. I had to add him.
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| 132 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 10:37
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Was wondering the same thing
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| 133 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 09:48
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Did we always have 5 bench spots? I could have sworn it was 4. Gross.
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| 134 | WG
ID: 89402220
Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 13:52
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STOP
Raffaela who was just drafted was taken in the P draft.
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| 135 | daleteekz
ID: 45237142
Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 14:02
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Sorry, how do i change that?
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| 136 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 14:13
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Draft has been stopped. Dale has been contacted to straighten this out.
As a not so gentle reminder. DO NOT TRUST Draft Time to check for prospect eligible players.
BEFORE you draft a prospect eligible player in Draft Time, make sure he wasn't already claimed during our prospect draft. This is not optional.
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| 137 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 14:19
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Dale selected Buxton instead. Draft is back in business. Thanks for the catch WG.
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| 138 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 18:15
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Hey Bili, are you dropping Kershaw if he doesn't resign with the Dodgers?
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| 139 | daleteekz
ID: 45237142
Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 02:35
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Didn't Kershaw sign in Feb?
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| 140 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 02:37
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https://theathletic.com/5255621/2024/02/06/clayton-kershaw-dodgers-contract-2025-option/
February 6, 2024
Kershaw (shoulder) signed a one-year, $5 million contract with the Dodgers on Tuesday, Fabian Ardaya reports.
Is this a trade offer, Nerve?
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| 141 | WG
ID: 89402220
Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 11:29
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Drew Thorpe was picked in the P draft but drafted 13.05... we are at 13.11 now with a few picks after. I'm assuming we just proceed and Phil remedy? I can wait.
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| 142 | Phil Turner
ID: 3212349
Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 11:32
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Sorry. I will fix. Just let me know on how.
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| 143 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 11:42
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Email me with a replacement player, and I'll make the swap.
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| 144 | Phil Turner
ID: 3212349
Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 11:50
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My replacement - Luis Severino.
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| 145 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 11:59
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OK, made the switch. On on!
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| 146 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 12:36
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I believe I have entered all your players up through pick 13.11 into Yahoo. If you look at TOMORROW's Roster, you should see them on your team. Let me know if you see any discrepancies.
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| 147 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 12:56
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Thanks, Bean.
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| 148 | Phil Turner
ID: 3212349
Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 20:20
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My replacement - Luis Severino.
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| 149 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 11:15
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Finalized the Ruiz trade--WG selects W Castro with PD's final pick.
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| 150 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 17:06
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Guys, great job on the draft.
Am double checking rosters, but please each of you check your rosters as well.
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| 151 | Perm Dude
ID: 322191718
Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 19:19
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A reminder (thanks to Bean) prospect keepers are marked with a K next to the player's name in Yahoo.
If a player is on the FA list and looks far too good to be there, they are likely on someone's farm team. Don't pick up players with a K.
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| 152 | Biliruben
ID: 592462710
Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 23:11
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Thanks for keeping us moving forward, PD. Great job,everyone. Second best of luck everyone! 3 and a half leaf clovers.
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| 153 | Bobo
ID: 360192914
Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 07:24
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Did anyone have issues with timely notice of being on the clock from Draftime?
I was keeping an eye on the draft progress regardless of e-mail pings, however I felt that whe I was getting notified it was rather late.
Wondering if anyone else saw this as a challenge/issue?
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| 154 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 07:25
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Season is started but managers are locked from making moves right now outside of setting your active players. Any player problems let me know ASAP.
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| 155 | daleteekz
ID: 45237142
Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 18:50
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@bobo - it was working perfectly early in the draft.
I cant remember when, but maybe Friday/Saturday the email notifications were very delayed.
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| 156 | Bobo
ID: 360192914
Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 13:48
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Dale - yep, completely agree. That was my experience too. Thanks for confirming it wasn't just my experience.
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| 157 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 14:37
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I got many error messages on the web page about not enough resources. He probably has an old server he is running Draft Time on.
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| 158 | WG
ID: 89402220
Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 14:38
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Confirming that adds opening this morning was planned and appropriate? I saw an add occur so I made one too. But if this was premature, no issues rolling it back.
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| 159 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 14:46
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I remember creating web pages back in the early days of the internet using HTML (mid 90s), before they had all the editing tools. Never advanced my skill set since,though.
Nowadays, seems you could easily script a drafting tool. Could data mine the Yahoo player lists to provide a player list for the draft tool.
MattG is using a tool for some of his commish functions, but he just uses broadcast e-mails to remind folks it's their turn while drafting. No clock function, however.
Essentially he uses for the regular draft, what we use for prospect draft, only everyone is OBLIGED to send out a reply all e-mail, once they have made their pick.
Food for thought.
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| 160 | Nerveclinic
ID: 5321066
Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 23:12
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I thought moves were locked? Why are people able to make FA grabs.
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| 161 | Nerveclinic
ID: 5321066
Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 23:49
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I thought moves were locked? Why are people able to make FA grabs.
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| 162 | Joe
ID: 45234209
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 10:34
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I did want to follow up on Monty's question above - are adds/drops now officially on?
Thanks in advance.
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| 163 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 10:48
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Good to go--took me a bit of time to double check everyone's roster, etc.
(Sorry for the delay--in the middle of a move)
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| 164 | Joe
ID: 45234209
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 10:57
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All good, and now worries! Good luck everyone.
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| 165 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 11:44
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Bean said above that moves were locked.
I literally went to the league, knowing that moves were locked, just to see if Jax was available and I see multiple moves including Jax being grabbed when moves were supposedly locked.
The way this was done, anyone who tried, even though Bean said moves were locked, got FA players including a new closer.
So we just let anyone who happens to grab players, after Bean said moves are closed have them?
What happened to waivers?
We've been doing this 20 years guys. SMH
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| 166 | WG
ID: 89402220
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 11:55
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That's why I posted above asking/clarifying. How about we undo all adds and place everyone on waivers for a few days, to clear before the games start next week?
In agreement that it should be announced when locked players become unlocked, preferably with waivers running first.
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| 167 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 12:04
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We intended to set it up so that all players were on waivers to start. I unlocked the teams so that waiver claims could be made and then the waiver period ended for unclaimed players, essentially, at the same time and so they became FAs and free to claim by anyone.
It sounds like the waivers never ran, and players were just FAs to start.
We don't necessarily have to run automatic waivers right now, as I can will treat any FA pickups as waiver pickups and run them manually and reorder the waiver priority manually.
If you have a problem with that, then drop any players you don't want as your waiver choices.
This isn't a hard fix. BUT SEND ME YOUR WAIVER CHOICES, IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE, SO WE CAN ASSIGN PLAYERS IN WAIVER WIRE ORDER.
I can easily run these late tonight and have everything re-set for tomorrow's game.
I'll post this via Yahoo too.
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| 168 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 12:06
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Thanks WG, I definitely would have put a waiver in for Jax.
Also was looking at adding Jose Siri and he was grabbed also.
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| 169 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 13:08
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So Fred you are saying that they can keep the players they grabbed early but just lose a waiver spot?
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| 170 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 14:10
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If they have a higher waiver priority, yes.
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| 171 | WG
ID: 89402220
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 15:29
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I think the waiver order needs to be reset to correspond to draft order. There's a post in the 2023 thread mentioning this.
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| 172 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 15:39
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Actually it wasn't Bean who said player pick-ups were locked it was PD.
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| 173 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 15:58
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Because of the way we put the "K" on the players, we have to start the league before the draft is over. That leads to players being off waivers by the time the draft ends.
Historically, we have to do the post draft waiver period manually. Guess the way I explained it to PD was confusing, unless he found another way to do it.
We could just give Jax to the guy who has Duran. Seems that would be the fairest way to resolve this. ;)
Surely there is time for PD to sort this out.
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| 174 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 16:57
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Waiver order: I admit I didn't double check but have assumed it was reverse of draft order. I'll take a look before doing manual waivers tonight.
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| 175 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 17:45
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It is mentioned in 2023 that the initial waiver order is in draft order.
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| 176 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 19:25
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I thought we've always done the waivers in the reverse of the draft order.
That was because the same person picks last in the prospect draft and the regular draft with no snake.
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| 177 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 19:32
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Bean: "Because of the way we put the "K" on the players, we have to start the league before the draft is over. "
And what has always been done is give a specific time and day to allow pick ups.
A better way to solve the problem in the future is reset the waivers once the draft is over, or set the waivers for 4-5 days so that there is a period of time after the draft with waivers.
It literally says in PD post that "Season is started but managers are locked from making moves right now outside of setting your active players. "
And yet people made moves, even though the league was never told when moves would be allowed.
I am not blaming the people who did picked up players but it's patently unfair. The obvious solution is to reset picks back to end of draft and start a new waiver clock.
Why has this never happened in 20 years in all the other leagues I've been in?
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| 178 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 23:43
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"A better way to solve the problem in the future is reset the waivers once the draft is over, or set the waivers for 4-5 days so that there is a period of time after the draft with waivers."
This does seem to be doable with the way Yahoo has set things up. They have a setting for "Continuous waiver" which allows all waivers to run on a particular day (or days) of the week, and this can be set ahead of time after a draft. After that, we can switch back to the standard waiver setting.
Only one manager has sent me an explicit list of waiver choices. That's fine--I can run these as though the FA pickups, in order, are waiver priorities but since a FA pickup by definition locks all other managers from choosing that player it would be good to get lists from folks...
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| 179 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 13:09
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I need a little clarification on the initial waiver order. Is the initial waiver order the reverse of the draft, or the draft order (i.e., the finish of last year, or the opposite)?
Am not seeing any real confirmation on the threads I've looked through. And it appears we might have done it differently in the past.
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| 180 | WG
ID: 89402220
Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 14:31
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In 2021, the first contested waiver claim was won by Nerve (1) over Meat (3)... which corresponds to a waiver priority equal to 2020 finish. I couldn't quickly figure it out for 2022 and 2023. In 2023 there was only one contested waiver claim and it occurred mid year, so hard to glean information from that.
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| 181 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 15:23
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Awesome--great job. Thanks.
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| 182 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 21:22
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I benched Musgrove .vs the Dodgers tonight.
16.88 ERA. 3.38 WHIP
I suspect I will be benching lots of pitchers against LA this year.
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| 183 | daleteekz
ID: 2821222
Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 03:01
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Can we start adding prospects to our active rosters?
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| 184 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 15:18
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Dale if it's a prospect you own, I don't think thee is any reason that would be stopped.
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| 185 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 19:21
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I've run waivers:
bili acquires J. Merrill (had a slot open, so no drop)
bili acquires M. Kopeach, dropping W Franco
bili acquires Y. Garcia, dropping K. Ginkel
artofmonk acquires J. Siri, dropping B. Elder
Black Death Returns acquires B. Miller (no drop, as he had an open slot)
Sycamores acquire JH Lee (no drop, as he had an open slot)
nerve acquires G. Jax, dropping Robertson
Added W Castro back onto WG’s roster.
Unlocked teams and FAs can be picked up at any time.
RESPECT THE K!
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| 186 | Joe
ID: 45234209
Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 20:59
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Thanks, PD - Miller was just a call up for me but thanks for making sure it was good to go.
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| 187 | biliruben@gmail.com
ID: 341471718
Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 02:18
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Sorry. Been busy.
Not exactly sure what's up, but I wouldn't have burned waiver on any of those fellers.
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| 188 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 11:32
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Correction: After hearing from nerve, he clarified that he did not want Jax after all, so Jax is awarded to artofmonk who had the next highest priority and made a claim for him.
I'll reverse that move. Art, I sent you a note asking you to let me know who you want to drop so I can put him on your art's roster.
Joe: Thanks--I'll restore your original waiver slot, then.
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| 189 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 11:37
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ditto for bili
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| 190 | biliruben
ID: 341471718
Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 15:41
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Thanks, PD!
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| 191 | WG
ID: 89402220
Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 12:15
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Anyone want to take a shot on Jordan Walker? Not looking for much, just now production, send offer.
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| 192 | Phil Turner
ID: 3212349
Mon, Jun 24, 2024, 09:29
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Hello All. Season has gone down hill. Open to trading players for future draft picks etc.
Email me.
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| 193 | Bobo
ID: 226152322
Tue, Jul 23, 2024, 23:15
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I got the email re: Colt Keith.
From what I can see, he had 303 AB as of today which removed his prospect eligibility.
I reviewed the information in the threads and did not see where any other protective means are afforded to players or managers.
Please point those out if they do exist, and a drop will follow.
Thanks
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| 194 | WG
ID: 89402220
Wed, Jul 24, 2024, 00:14
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From 23 above:
Prospects may be called up in-season and can be sent back and forth to prospect list until the end of the season in which they exceeded the stated prospect limits. As with our new rule, managers can keep prospects for the entire season in which they exceed their stated prospect level limits. So, if your prospect hits the limit in May, you may still hold his rights as a prospect until the beginning of the following season.
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| 195 | Bobo
ID: 1636249
Wed, Jul 24, 2024, 10:36
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Thanks.
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| 196 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 11:00
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You may recall that I had three 1st round, three 2nd round and two 3rd round picks in this year's draft.
To call this season a disappointment would fail to describe the depressing dashing of my optimism for this season. Injuries and under-achievement of my high draft pick starting pitching is front and center in the list of things that went wrong for me.
All of that said, it has become painfully obvious that my chances for a title in 2024 are somewhere between zero and none. So, if you need saves, talk to me, I have four pretty good closers, and I would like to get 2025 picks in return. None are must keep, but be prepared to pay dearly if you want Clase, he's a projected keeper. Iglesias is on the bubble, Jensen and Durant are not currently projected keepers.
I left a blue link to make it easy for you.
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| 197 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Aug 17, 2024, 10:10
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Is now a good time to talk about potential rule changes for next year?
My take on low controversy changes:
1) Add one new roster slot.
2) Add a fourth IL slot.
3) Change from SV to S+H
Perhaps a little more controversial:
4) Eliminate prospects over three years.
5) Reduce the number of keepers by one.
6) Institute a minimum GP and IP that requires people to actually play the game
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| 198 | biliruben
ID: 341471718
Mon, Aug 19, 2024, 09:55
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Prospects are the only reason I still play.
I would support reduction un keepers and prospects, however. The last round or 2 of prospect draft have become lower odds than powerball.
I'd also support dropping IP max. Neither WG nor I are likely to hit the maximum, despite heroic efforts.
Maybe drop roster spots by a few at the same time. Eat the rich.
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| 199 | Mudville
ID: 557432012
Tue, Aug 20, 2024, 13:44
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1) Add one new roster slot. Yes
2) Add a fourth IL slot. YES!
3) Change from SV to S+H YES!
Perhaps a little more controversial:
4) Eliminate prospects over three years. Nah.
5) Reduce the number of keepers by one. Nah.
6) Institute a minimum GP and IP that requires people to actually play the game Sure.
I would also like to see not having to wait a day to add transactions. Frustrating to have a guy come of the DL and not be able to use him until the next day.
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| 200 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:32
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Any other thoughts?
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| 201 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:52
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"I would also like to see not having to wait a day to add transaction"
Yes! The only problem with this is this might cause some admin headaches for managers who pick up prospects in error and play them. But not having to wait a day would be an improvement.
SVs + Holds would be an interesting change. How about S+H-BS?
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| 202 | daleteekz
ID: 537282117
Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 18:34
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1) Add one new roster slot. Yes
2) Add a fourth IL slot. Yes
3) Change from SV to S+H Yes, but not until 2026 in case there were some trades/moves made this season for 2025 which this rule would devalue.
Perhaps a little more controversial:
4) Eliminate prospects over three years. Not fussed
5) Reduce the number of keepers by one. No
6) Institute a minimum GP and IP that requires people to actually play the game Sure. Im happy with that.
I agree with not having to wait a day. That would be a good improvement.
Side note, has anyone used fantrax? Ive seen some screenshots that makes it look like it can handle prospects properly.
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| 203 | Foot
ID: 11222610
Thu, Aug 22, 2024, 08:05
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1) Add one new roster slot. Yes.
2) Add a fourth IL slot. No.
3) Change from SV to S+H. Yes.
Perhaps a little more controversial:
4) Eliminate prospects over three years. No.
5) Reduce the number of keepers by one. No.
6) Institute a minimum GP and IP that requires people to actually play the game How would this work exactly? Would like more details before voting on this.
These are my initial thoughts and and will admit to not having strong opinions on 2 and 3
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| 204 | artofmonk
ID: 247362016
Thu, Aug 22, 2024, 15:29
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1) Add one new roster slot. Yes
2) Add a fourth IL slot. YES!
3) Change from SV to S+H YES!
4) Eliminate prospects over three years. Nope
5) Reduce the number of keepers by one. Nope
6) Institute a minimum GP and IP that requires people to actually play the game Sure. Nope
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| 205 | Joe
ID: 277511813
Fri, Aug 23, 2024, 07:45
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1) Add one new roster slot. Yes
2) Add a fourth IL slot. Yes
3) Change from SV to S+H Yes
4) Eliminate prospects over three years. No
5) Reduce the number of keepers by one. No
6) Institute a minimum GP and IP that requires people to actually play the game. Maybe, but I'd also like more details before voting.
And I've used Fantrax for a couple other leagues and it seems to work fine once you get used to it.
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| 206 | Bobo
ID: 1636249
Fri, Aug 23, 2024, 10:23
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1) Add one new roster slot. Yes
2) Add a fourth IL slot. Yes
3) Change from SV to S+H Yes
4) Eliminate prospects over three years. No
5) Reduce the number of keepers by one. No
Like others, I need a little more info on 6 before a final opinion.
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| 207 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Wed, Aug 28, 2024, 13:17
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My take on low controversy changes:
1) Add one new roster slot. YES
2) Add a fourth IL slot. YES
3) Change from SV to S+H. NO
Perhaps a little more controversial:
4) Eliminate prospects over three years. NO
5) Reduce the number of keepers by one. NO
6) Institute a minimum GP and IP that requires people to actually play the game. YES (I thought we had one already?)
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| 208 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 10:51
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Been busy. Will see where we stand on these issues in the next couple days.
As to nerveclinic's question about GP and IP minimums. There are maximums on GP/IP, but nothing in our rules about minimums (see post #23). Though I think some people have implied there was a rule during debate, seems more likely they got their leagues mixed up. If there was an agreed upon rule that isn't reflected in post #23, we need to locate it in our threads.
Anyway, the real challenge in implementing minimums is how to enforce it. We are using a demerit system in G20 baseball and G20 hoops that is easily implemented.
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| 209 | biliruben
ID: 341471718
Fri, Aug 30, 2024, 05:01
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I got dinged for it in another league last year, where i wasnt even aware of the rule. The "penelty" gave me the first pick in the draft.
As you can imagine, I was much aggrieved.
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| 210 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Aug 31, 2024, 12:29
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So, thanks for everyone's comments. It was my intent to just start conversation here. However many of you followed Mudville's lead and actually voted. Remember, we need 8 YES votes to pass any rule change.
Seems we already have 8 YES votes for adding a roster slot for 2025. We also have 7 YES and 1 NO vote for having 4 IL slots for 2025. We have 5 YES, 2 NO and 2 DEPENDS votes for S+H vs Saves. Eliminatng prospects and reducing keepers have little chance of passing, and can be ignored. GP/IP Minimums requires more specifics, but had 7 positive responses.
We haven't heard from WG, C1-NRB,Tax, and The Sycamores at all, and Bili and PD haven't "voted" on all six of my recommendations.
Nobody seconded Bili's recommendations.
Mudville's "I would also like to see not having to wait a day to add transactions" received two additional positive responses, and should be put to vote, after PD confirms they can be implemented in Yahoo. I would be a 4th in favor BTW.
Will try to wrap this up soon.
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| 211 | Biliruben
ID: 327272623
Sat, Aug 31, 2024, 12:43
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roster spot - No
4 IL - No
S+H - No
Minimums - What's the penalty? Almost certainly No.
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| 212 | taxman
ID: 157442818
Sun, Sep 01, 2024, 01:10
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1) Add one new roster slot .. YES
2) Add a fourth IL slot .. Hell Yes
3) Change from SV to S+H .. Yes
Perhaps a little more controversial:
4) Eliminate prospects over three years NO
5) Reduce the number of keepers by one .. NO
6) Institute a minimum GP and IP that requires people to actually play the game .. Yes
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| 219 | C1-NRB
ID: 1686221
Mon, Sep 02, 2024, 22:06
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Sorry I was late.
1) Add one new roster slot. Yes
2) Add a fourth IL slot. Yes
3) Change from SV to S+H Yes
4) Eliminate prospects over three years. No- I had Jasson Dominguez for, like, 4 years and I'm not willing to give him up. ;)
5) Reduce the number of keepers by one. No
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| 220 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Tue, Sep 03, 2024, 10:16
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Seems we lost a half dozen posts, including WG's vote, language from the G20 baseball league constitution describing their demerit system for minimum GP/IP, and my assertion that we already have enough votes to pass one new roster slot and a 4th IL slot.
With C1-NRB's & taxman's votes we now have 7 in favor of S+H vs Saves and two others (daleteekz and Perm Dude) who favor it, but have slightly different takes. So, at a minimum, we have the votes to do S+H in 2026.
We also have enough interest in implementing some kind of GP/IP minimum. Details need to be agreed upon. I'll draft some language describing a demerit system customized for our league. We can use that as a starting point for further discussion.
From my view, the only other topic that seems to have some chance of sticking is Mudville's "I would also like to see not having to wait a day to add transactions" with 3 others agreeing.
WG had posted a related topic about shortening the trade rejection period too, but the post was deleted before anyone could react.
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| 221 | WG
ID: 587481812
Tue, Sep 03, 2024, 11:37
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If we switched to daily-today roster changes then I probably wouldn't push for or favor a reduction in trade review time, as it would accomplish the same thing.
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| 222 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Tue, Sep 03, 2024, 14:07
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Here is some proposed language for Minimums, let's start the conversation there:
Minimums for GP and IP:
A team must accumulate a minimum of 1520 GP by hitters over the course of a season. For each 10 games of shortfall, a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-10 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 11-20 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
A team must accumulate a minimum of 1200 IP over the course of a season. For every shortfall of 10 IP, a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-10 IP of shortfall will receive one demerit, 11-20 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
GP and IP demerits will be combined for each team. However, the first two demerits will be forgiven.
The following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year’s supplement draft:
If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be assigned the 14th pick in all rounds.
For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (14th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 9th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 9-13 will each move down one place.)
If more than one team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.
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| 223 | biliruben
ID: 341471718
Thu, Sep 05, 2024, 22:26
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Tragedy of the commons.
All you can think of when you vote for more and more players locked up through expanded rosters, is your benefit.
But for those who lose a few key players to injuries, the cupboard is bare when the look for available free agents.
So they stop playing in May.
And you wonder why half the league tunes out. So you go with the stick, to force people to pick up washed up pitchers, while you make the game less and less interesting. Brilliant.
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| 224 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Sep 06, 2024, 10:55
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Cam, I appreciate your pessimism. However, the move to S+H will actually add more viable players to our rosters, while the additional IL slot makes it possible to add players as injury replacements, not just streaming targets.
MLB has changed much in the last decade or so. Starting pitchers pitch fewer innings now. MLB increased its roster to 26 in 2020 as a result, then COVID happened requiring some tweaks and creating new behaviors. The 10-day IL is used for minor injuries and even slumps now. Add to that, platooning of hitters is even more common, as are rest days. This makes it near impossible to reach GP maximums without streaming hitters and monitoring lineup announcements all day. Thank god they stretched the season out, or it would be worse.
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| 225 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sat, Sep 07, 2024, 11:03
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I get that MLB is using SP in different ways and it isn't accurately being captured in the stats anymore. Not sure how to handle that, but I don't know that fantasy GP maximums is a goal, only overcoming the GP minimums if instituted.
That said, my belief is that minimums are intended to spur continued manager interest and are not themselves the goal. So perhaps a "moved made" minimum per week or month is really the way to go toward solving that problem.
I agree with Bili that a smaller FA pool (full of platoon players) isn't fun.
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| 226 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Sep 08, 2024, 20:36
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Little discourse, gonna wrap this up and apply a bow on Friday, if no further comments.
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| 227 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 15:17
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Link to updated Constitution.
Changes in RED include:
ADD ONE BN SLOT
ADD ONE IL SLOT
SAVES CATEGORY WILL BE S+H IN 2026.
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| 228 | taxman
ID: 51819188
Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 09:29
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As usual, I am late to party.
The demerit system has been effective in G-20 to goad managers into staying involved. Minimums can be a heavy burden when you suffer a plague of injuries. Some injured players are not droppable (deGroom, Acuna) and will clog the IR position. To keep IR from being an extra bench slot (stashing), we should disallow picking up a player already on IR or stated otherwise, only players on your roster on becoming injured can be moved to IR.
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| 229 | Biliruben
ID: 38241523
Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 11:20
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I feel like Bean woke up one day and said to himself "Shit, I joined a mid-sized keeper league with prospects. I hate midsized keepers leagues with prospects! Why don't I try to slowly change it into all the other leagues out there."
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| 230 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Sat, Sep 21, 2024, 12:59
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I agree. Am frankly tired of the "all the other leagues I'm in do it a different way."
My interest in this league is at an all-time low because it is getting more and more like other leagues.
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| 231 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Sep 22, 2024, 11:06
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As I said two years ago in the 2022 Thread, and it still reflects my view:
"It's always been my thought that most of us will play by whatever rules are put in front of us. We just play for the camaraderie and competition, afterall. We do, however, all have our own rule preferences."
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| 232 | biliruben
ID: 341471718
Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 07:47
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I just keep waiting for WGs team to get cold, and they just never do.
Incredible Season, Amit. I don't think we have ever had a final point total in the 130s.
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| 233 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 19:39
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WG just never took his foot off the gas.
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| 234 | Joe
ID: 27832188
Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 05:43
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Congratulations on a dominant season, WG!
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| 235 | Foot
ID: 4587307
Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 08:07
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Congrats, WG!
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| 236 | biliruben
ID: 341471718
Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 10:31
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Yes, 132 out 140 possible points is incredible.
I was just ecstatic to briefly bring your lead to single digits a few weeks ago. You just stomped on the gas though, and left me eating fumes.
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| 237 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 10:34
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Grats WG
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| 238 | nerveclinic
ID: 580543021
Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 12:51
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Just look back to WG's trade pre-draft to grab Skenes in the prospect draft and that's all you need to know why he wins.
Great Job WG.
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| 239 | WG
ID: 3095674
Mon, Oct 07, 2024, 05:56
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Thanks everyone, and thanks for a fun and competitive season. Bili definitely kept me on my toes, kudos on a strong finish. Looking forward to trying to defend next year… is Trout still a keeper?? Thanks Bean for your efforts.
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