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Subject: "Not So Mock" Draft - Round 14

Posted by: tduncan - [47616279] Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 05:40

sledge

Mr. Nice Guy

CanEHdian Pride

Khahan

Chuck

Dan

tduncan

Strike One

wazaaap_guy

wiggs

blockaa

Mikel

Alex Rodriguez

Randy Johnson

Pedro Martinez

Ivan Rodriguez

Mike Piazza

Todd Helton

Sammy Sosa

Curt Schilling

Vladimir Guererro

Jason Giambi

Barry Bonds

Ichiro Suzuki

Mike Mussina

Mariano Rivera

Jason Kendall

Tim Hudson

Albert Pujols

Greg Maddux

Roberto Alomar

Jeff Bagwell

Derek Jeter

Roger Clemens

Manny Ramirez

Chipper Jones

Kevin Brown

Nomar Garciaparra

Troy Glaus

Jeff Kent

Miguel Tejada

Luis Gonzales

Shawn Green

Juan Gonzales

Bobby Abreu

Ken Griffey

Matt Morris

Carlos Delgado

Brian Giles

Magglio Ordonez

Edgardo Alfonzo

Lance Berkman

Barry Zito

Brett Boone

Alfonso Soriano

Andruw Jones

Javier Vazquez

Freddy Garcia

Phil Nevin

Gary Sheffield

Rafael Palmeiro

Mike Sweeney

Jimmy Rollins

Al Leiter

Kazuhiro Sasaki

Jorge Posada

Ryan Klesko

Kerry Wood

Roy Oswalt

Trevor Hoffman

Rich Aurillia

Larry Walker

Eric Chavez

Paul LoDuca

Bartolo Colon

Moises Alou

J.D. Drew

Rob Nen

Armando Benitez

Jose Vidro

Mark Mulder

Chan Ho Park

Scott Rolen

Darryl Kile

John Smoltz

Keith Foulke

Carlos Beltran

Troy Percival

Craig Biggio

Aramis Ramirez

Corey Koskie

Juan Pierre

Billy Wagner

Russ Ortiz

Jason Isringhausen

Jon Lieber

Shannon Stewart

Jonny Damon

Wade Miller

Aaron Sele

Jim Thome

Adam Dunn

Christian Guzman

Jeff Cirillo

Adrian Beltre

Bernie Williams

Billy Koch

Rafael Furcal

Frank Thomas

Mark Buerhle

Matt Anderson

Mo Vaughn

Ugueth Urbina

Joe Mays

Bob Wickman

Jamie Moyer

Josh Beckett

Ray Durham

Cliff Floyd

C.C. Sabathia

Bud Smith

Jose Ortiz

Randy Wolf

Juan Uribe

Brad Radke

Jeff Weaver

Roger Cedeno

Edgar Martinez

Luis Castillo

Orlando Cabrerra

Tom Glavine

Tom Gordon

Ryan Dempster

Andy Pettitte

Preston Wilson

Woody Williams

Jim Edmonds

Jeff Zimmerman

Hideo Nomo

Kazuhisa Ishii

Toby Hall

Raul Mondesi

Jose Mesa

Brad Penny

Mike Cameron

Robert Preson

Paul Konerko

Frank Catalanotto

Kevin Appier

Jose Valentin

Cory Lidle

Tony Armas

Sean Casey

Eric Milton

Richie Sexson

Roy Halladay

Darin Erstad

Danny Graves

Jeoff Jenkins

Terrance Long

Jeromy Burnitz

Richard Hidalgo

Byung-Hyun Kim

Jason Marquis

Kelvim Escobar

Charles Johnson

Eric Young

Antonio Alfonseca

Joel Pineiro

Jermaine Dye

Carlos Pena

Mike Lowell

Rick Ankiel

Mike Lieberthal

Catcher	1st Baseman	2nd Baseman	Shortstop	3rd Baseman	Outfielder	Starting Pitcher	Relief Pitcher
8	15	12	11	11	36	48	21

sledge

Mr. Nice Guy

CanEHdian Pride

Khahan

Chuck

Dan

tduncan

Strike One

wazaaap_guy

wiggs

blockaa

Mikel

Paul LoDuca

Jason Kendall

Ivan Rodriguez

Mike Piazza

Jorge Posada

Toby Hall

Charles Johnson

Mike Lieberthal

Rafael Palmeiro

Mike Sweeney

Paul Konerko

Mo Vaughn

Jim Thome

Todd Helton

Ryan Klesko

Jeff Bagwell

Sean Casey

Jason Giambi

Richie Sexson

Carlos Delgado

Jose Ortiz

Edgardo Alfonzo

Jeff Kent

Craig Biggio

Brett Boone

Roberto Alomar

Jose Vidro

Luis Castillo

Ray Durham

Eric Young

Alex Rodriguez

Nomar Garciaparra

Jimmy Rollins

Juan Uribe

Miguel Tejada

Jose Valentin

Christian Guzman

Derek Jeter

Orlando Cabrerra

Rich Aurillia

Rafael Furcal

Eric Chavez

Troy Glaus

Albert Pujols

Aramis Ramirez

Corey Koskie

Jeff Cirillo

Adrian Beltre

Mike Lowell

Phil Nevin

Chipper Jones

Frank Thomas

Frank Catalanotto

Alfonso Soriano

Edgar Martinez

Carlos Pena

Scott Rolen

Brian Giles

Magglio Ordonez

Carlos Beltran

Lance Berkman

J.D. Drew

Luis Gonzales

Sammy Sosa

Juan Gonzales

Vladimir Guererro

Ken Griffey

Barry Bonds

Ichiro Suzuki

Shannon Stewart

Jonny Damon

Preston Wilson

Moises Alou

Jim Edmonds

Adam Dunn

Shawn Green

Andrew Jones

Bobby Abreu

Bernie Williams

Manny Ramirez

Gary Sheffield

Mike Cameron

Jeoff Jenkins

Terrance Long

Jeromy Burnitz

Richard Hidalgo

Roger Cedeno

Juan Pierre

Raul Mondesi

Cliff Floyd

Larry Walker

Darrin Erstad

Jermaine Dye

Mike Mussina

Randy Johnson

Pedro Martinez

Tim Hudson

Barry Zito

Greg Maddux

Hideo Nomo

Curt Schilling

Javier Vazquez

Roger Clemens

Matt Morris

Darryl Kile

Kevin Brown

Mark Buerhle

Bartolo Colon

Al Leiter

Brad Radke

Joe Mays

Cory Lidle

Kerry Wood

Roy Oswalt

Freddy Garcia

Tom Glavine

Jon Lieber

Bud Smith

Andy Pettitte

Wade Miller

Aaron Sele

Kevin Appier

Jeff Weaver

Joel Pineiro

Jamie Moyer

Mark Mulder

Chan Ho Park

Rick Ankiel

C.C. Sabathia

Ryan Dempster

Robert Person

Randy Wolf

Woody Williams

Kazuhisa Ishii

Josh Beckett

Russ Ortiz

Brad Penny

Tony Armas

Eric Milton

Roy Halladay

Danny Graves

Byung-Hyun Kim

Jason Marquis

Jose Mesa

Keith Foulke

Ugueth Urbina

Jeff Zimmerman

Bob Wickman

Kelvim Escobar

Billy Koch

Antonio Alfonseca

John Smoltz

Mariano Rivera

Matt Anderson

Troy Percival

Kazuhiro Sasaki

Rob Nen

Armando Benitez

Billy Wagner

Trevor Hoffman

Jason Isringhausen

Tom Gordon

tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 05:42

we had 2 very slow days, hopefully we will get a few rounds done today.

Dan is on the clock.

Sledge
ID: 291221118
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 10:47

Guys - it looks like we're in no hurry. I'll be back around 200pm cst

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 10:55

I'll be around all weekends, and next week too since i'm on winter break.

blockaa
Donor
ID: 550321519
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 11:01

NICE . . . Dan's been on the clock now for over 11 hours . . . I'll try to check back in in about 3 days and see if it's my turn to pick. ;)

Dan
ID: 371211321
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 11:19

14.6 Pedro Astacio

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 12:18

All right, I'll be picking in a few minutes...

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 12:25

Note that Dan's pick was 14.7

I don't think he's been taken yet. If so, someone correct me:

14.8 John Burkett

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:00

you pick is valid chuck

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:05

researching my pick now.

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:13

14.9 Jose Cruz Jr.

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:23

Sorry fellas, cable connection petered out on me and I haven't been able to get on since about 10 AM.

Damn, I pick short of Jose Cruz....great pick Kahanan. Guess I've gotta go with plan B then eh. Unfortunatley Plan B involves about 5 guys that I want with my next 2 picks.

14.10 Tom Gordon

wiggs
ID: 11032171
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:29

Pride, Gordon is gone.

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:30

DOH! Didn't scroll over. I'll re-pick in a second.

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:33

Ready to make next two, then I'll be heading out for quite a while

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:33

14.10 Javy Lopez

tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:37

so, iI have some free time before I go out for the night, so I decided to make a 14th round rankings of the teams so far in this league. all, of course, are in my personal opinion.

1. wazaaap_guy
great 4 starting pitchers, 2 30-30 OFs, and a faily good hitters lineups gives him the top spot. wagner is an injury risk, but this can easily be fixed later in the draft.

2. Chuck
a great hitting team, led by piazza and his huge adventage over any other guy at catcher. a stud in zito and 2 strong closers gives chuck a very balanced team.

3. Dan
the best hitting-for-average team, along with greg maddux and rob nen. sounds good to me.

4. Mikel
great outfield trio, and chipper, but trouble from the other hitters. furcal and lieberthal are injury risks, delgado needs to prove he can play like he played 1999 again, and no 2B makes this team very unpredictable. a strong starting roatation with 2 shaky closers on the mound.

5. tduncan
the best hitting team in the league (as expected by not drafting a pitchers untill round 6). a lock '12' in steals. obviously, looks like the worst starting roatation, but nomo can be a stud back in dodger stadium, and pineiro/lidle will get their wins playing for great teams. good closers stuff as well.

6. sledge
smoltz can save 50 games if he stays healthy. thomas's and brown's health will be the most important factors in determening this team's success.

7. Mr. Nice Guy
johnson assures him the k's category, and he looks very strong in saves also. garciaparra's wrist is crutial here.

8. wiggs
could have done a lot better then clemens with the 15th overall pick.

9. blockaa
great OF, but not a lot after that. nevin and aurillia will have problems posting the same numbers as last year. and are you really gonna start ankiel as your 3rd pitcher? he is a nice bench sleeper, but counting on him to perform is not a good idea.

10. Strike One
you need an almost prefect team in order to win a 5x5 roto league with a lock '1' (saves in this case). this is a good team, but not good enouth to pull this off.

11. CanHidan Pride
one of the oldest fantasy rules says "you can't win a draft in the early rounds, but you can lose it there pretty easily".
kandell and glaus went WAY before they should have gone. if pedro won't be at the top of his game, this is easily the worst team in the league.

12. Khahan
I know you are a "rookie" and all, but pudge 4th overall? and ahead of piazaa??? I can't understand this decision. sele won't win 15 games again. he is gonna be a big bust down in anahaim.

again, let me state that all if the above is my personall opinion only. I hope you guys can respond and say what you think about the teams in the league so far. a little thrash talk never hurts.

wiggs
ID: 11032171
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:39

ouch Tduncan, that hurts, i feel i drafted a quality team and i am getting the 8th ranking with nothing more then a clemens comment. Hope he makes you all eat your words when he wins 20 games this year.

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:43

14.11 Sean Burroughs

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:46

td: Seems right. I'm glad that I am at least in the middle of the pack. I found that drafting in the middle seems to be the best for me, as I am doing much better in the #3 draft.

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:49

gotta go, Anyone I can leave a queue with?

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:52

ok, I'm going to leave it in the trade talk #1 thread since I don't know how to do the fancy schmancy highlight deal. Catch all of you later.

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:56

Man am I excited to get this season underway. I sometimes lose interest in my teams after the draft but I intend to monitor this team everyday SINGLE day so that I can win this league and knock some of you guys down a peg or two.

tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:57

sledge says he won't be back untill 8pm, so I'm going out for a few hours as well.

see you all (hopefully) tonight.

tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 13:58

bring it on EH.

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 14:00

sledge said he'd be back at 2 CT??? Isn't that 3 EST?

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 14:00

tduncan, how can you put my team at number 10 because I'm not going to be getting very many saves (thus sacrificing SAves), when you put your team 5th, when you're focusing mostly on hitting and not so much on pitching (thus sacrificing Wins and Strikeouets). Dosen't make much sense to me.

I won't say where my team stands until after the draft, but my no means am I disapointed with my draft.

But I guess it's just an opinion

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 14:03

Sorry to nitpick here but the above analysis has me a little confused.

"johnson assures him the k's category"

Unfortunatley Buerhle and Pettite combined for 290 K's last season. Not exactly a powerful supporting cast.

Pedro, Colon, Wolf and Miller are all capable of striking out 200 batters.....and that is just my team. I'm sure there are other combos that will make the K category a little bit more of a race than one might think.

wazaaap_guy
ID: 5178246
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 14:53

im bored, so here is what i think were the best picks in each round.

round 1 - vlad. 40-30 with good avg, runs, and rbi. some sites have him ranked in top 3 or 4 in roto leagues.
round 2 - mussina. 20 wins is guaranteed on yankees and with a good era whip and k's. maybe the 3rd best pitcher and not a risk like pedro or rj.
round 3 - abreu. ranked in top 6 OF on most sites for 30-30 potential with great avg, runs, rbi.
round 4 - berkman. great young of who will hit a ton of hrs.
round 5 - walker. playing in coors he will put up great numbers until he gets hurt.
round 6 - mulder. potential for 20 wins and probably a's no 3 starter means he won't go up against the big boys.
round 7 - foulke. 7th closer to go but probably a top 4. sub 1 whip last year.
round 8 - dunn. will hit a ton of hrs and went relatively late, after guys like alou and bernie.
round 9 - thomas. was hurt last year but puts up sick numbers every year when healthy.
round 10 - ortiz. 2b is a weak position and he plays in coors.
round 11 - penny. i dont' know, i think he will be big.
round 12 - sexson. 50 hrs in the 12th round, enough said.
round 13 - hidalgo. great potential playing in enron, and better than the OF's taken in the last 4 rounds IMO.
round 14 - javy. what was the 6th best catcher still doing out there?

this is all just what i think.

wiggs
ID: 11032171
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 15:18

wasaap, i agree with some things you said, but it is hard to say thomas will come back anywhere near as good. and abreu is coming off major surgery and dont know what he will do this year. I wouldnt over look giambi for MVP

ChicagoTRS
Sustainer
ID: 300252621
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 15:30

wiggs...go back to draft 3...ugueth was already chosen...

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 15:35

Mikel has my queue. If it gets back to me in round 16 (or my first queue is empty) after that queue is done then waazaap guy knows who I want. If both guys go then I'll pick as soon as I get home from work, probably around 1:3- 2:00 am EST

Sledge
ID: 291221118
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 15:40

I took a beating on my queue.....I'll be with you guys in just a second.

Sledge
ID: 291221118
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 15:42

14.12 Marcus Giles, 2b

the next one will take me a minute

Mikel
ID: 5814539
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 15:45

I got MNG's que and cEHp's i thought Sledge would be back at 3 but i guess not, I'll check back in, in an a half hour or so.

Please sledge don't show up now.

Sledge
ID: 291221118
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 15:49

15.1 Kevin Millwood,p

Sorry I was a little late guys. The b-ball game started late, then lunch, and you know how wives always have to stop and pick up just a few things at Walmart. We're back on the move anyway.

Mikel
ID: 5814539
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 15:49

haha nice

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 15:51

tduncan, I just feel Piazza is going to have an off year this year and Ivan is determined to be injury free. 4th may have been a tad early for him, but considering I feel he is the best at his position, his position is probably the weakest or second weakest (c and 2nd base in my eyes) and I didn't think he would make it back around to me, I like my pick in round 1.
Though I will add I am far happier with my team in the 3rd draft overall than I am with this one.

Mikel
ID: 5814539
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 15:53

Mr. Nice Guy wants: 15.2 Matt Lawton

Mikel
ID: 5814539
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 15:57

cEHp wants...15.3 Matt Herges

Sledge
ID: 291221118
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 16:01

I actually think that 2b is one of the deeper positions. if you don't get on of the top 2 or 3 you can always find a guy that will steal you alot of bases. Catcher on the other hand. If you don't get Pudge or Piazza you're gonna get nothing anyway - they just don't put up points and they can't be counted on to play everyday. I haven't formed my opinion of the draft yet, but personally I think I'm better than 6th.

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 16:03

15.4 Jason Schmidt

Sledge
ID: 291221118
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 16:32

Don't take this the wrong way but, does anyone else have trouble taking criticism from a guy that makes his 1st pick for his starting rotation in the 11th round - and it's Hideo Nomo. Forget about it. The graphics you give us are great, but your analysis couldn't be further off the mark.

blockaa
Donor
ID: 550321519
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 17:16

Just took a look at tduncan's draft rankings . . . what a funny guy. I was under the impression that you knew something about baseball.

tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 17:22

I'm back, but not for long. here is my que for this round:
A.J. Burnett

I will be back around 8pm ET.

sledge - thats really not fair. if you don't like my analisys, come up with one of your own. but don't make ugly personal remarks.

strike one - there is a difference between "sacrifising" a category, and still maybe taking a 5 of a 6, and totaly leaving out a category and taking a sure 1. at this point, there is really nothing you can do about it, unless you plan on putting 4 20-saves closers in your starting lineup. I can still find faily good starters.

tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 17:24

same for you blockaa. instead of throwing insaults, come up with your own rankings.

blockaa
Donor
ID: 550321519
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 17:28

As Strike One said earlier, I will wait until the draft is complete to give my opinion on everyone's team. Like EH, I am also excited about this league . . . I think everyone really wants to win this . . . should be some good competition.

tduncan - Ankiel? Ankiel? Ankiel? You're knocking me for going with Ankiel? Take a look at your rotation and get back with me on that one.

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 17:30

I'll make a couple comments before this becomes like a fight among high school girls (which were always fun to watch... ;-). First of all, I don't know if I would say I have the #2 team. In fact, I think my team in draft #3 is better than this one by far. I find it hard to say that Piazza makes or breaks a team; catcher is only 1 position.

That being said, I still thank td for his analysis. Obviously everyone would have a different view on the draft. What I think would be interesting, though, is this. After the draft is complete, each of the 12 of us should give our listing of teams #1-12 and then take an average and then make a group average. We could even do this in "invisible ink" so that each person will show their own opinions.

As for me right now, I think I favor wazaaap_guy's team if only for the potential that it has. I still like Dan's team as a strong #2-- especially from his early draft picks. As for me, I think I'm definately in the top 12. ;-)

blockaa
Donor
ID: 550321519
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 17:35

I promise. No more 'insaults' the remainder of the draft. ;)

tduncan - I actually DO like the guy in your queue. He was on my list.

wazaaap_guy
ID: 5178246
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 17:40

chuck youre up.

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 17:50

Oh sorry, it is me... ;-) I was thinking I was pick #8

Sledge
ID: 291221118
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 17:52

I actually thought you analysis of my team was right on. But I am counting on Thomas and Brown to be the All-Stars that they are. And if they are it's alot better than 6. I can only analyze my own team - that's why I draft the way I do. I'm sure that we all think we are going to win. Sorry about the off - handed comment. I just thought that was the largest oddity of the entire draft.

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 18:01

Time to finish out my outfield:

Daryle Ward

Dan
ID: 371211321
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 18:11

15.6 Garret Anderson

wazaaap_guy
ID: 5178246
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 18:14

tduncan picks
15.7 A.J. Burnett

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 18:16

15.8 Jeff Shaw

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 18:19

Sorry for holding this up before guys... I just didn't pay much attention after I picked this morning. In the future, if it's my pick and I haven't said anything about being away, just drop a reminder (i.e. "Chuck is on the clock") b/c I was here, but just wasn't thinking it was my pick.

wazaaap_guy
ID: 5178246
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 18:36

15.9 Pat "The Bat" Burrell

tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 20:23

guys how about extending the bench from 7 spots to 10 spots?

7 just seems like a very small bench considering we are starting 18 players.

Mikel
ID: 5814539
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 20:30

tduncan you going to be around for a while? i heading out and i need to send someone a que. NOone else is online except Blockaa and he picks before i do. IM me at- luckime31084 or leave me your email

thanks

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 20:36

SO, really risky pick with Shaw. He's still not signed that I've heard and is considering retirement if he doesn't sign.

Mikel
ID: 5814539
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 20:36

to late i got to get going

ill try and check in at 10 or so

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 20:37

MIkel, you can send your que to me: khahan@mindspring.com

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 20:47

hmmm, i fell alseep and thought I'd be up and geting yelled at by now. Turns out I didn't miss a pick.

As for Shaw, chances are he's going to sign with the Reds.

Sledge
ID: 20111621
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 21:36

I was hoping to sneak Shaw in the 25th round. I think he'll sign with Cincy as well. He ought to give a pretty good hometown discount. If they are smart they won't pass him up.

wiggs
ID: 11032171
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 22:01

16.10 Shawn Estes

blockaa
Donor
ID: 550321519
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 22:02

Does wiggs know he's up? I'll probably be going out in about 30 minutes and may not be back online until around 1pm CST tomorrow.

Sledge
ID: 20111621
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 22:03

Remind me again guys- the ruling on pitchers. 8 total in any mix. Or did we set up to have 2 relief pitchers. I can't remember.

Sledge
ID: 20111621
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 22:04

you're up blockaa

blockaa
Donor
ID: 550321519
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 22:06

ha . . what timing! wiggs - we're in round 15. Khahan . . did you get Mikel's queue?

How about another high risk/high reward guy . . .
15.11 Ben Sheets

blockaa
Donor
ID: 550321519
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 22:07

to respond to what tduncan said earlier . . I think 10 bench guys may be too many. What about 8? That would be an even 25 per team.

Sledge
ID: 20111621
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 22:13

blockaa- if you need to leave some picks you can e-mail me or IM me at Tim33Julie. Or just use your highlight trick.

blockaa
Donor
ID: 550321519
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 22:15

Having already heard from tduncan, I'd like to hear from some of you other guys on R.Ankiel. Were any of you considering drafting him? How high? I think he could really bounce back this year. I see where tduncan was coming from - he may be a little risky to use as your #3 SP, but if he can calm the wildness I think he's a steal in the 14th round. We all know what he's capable of . .

Sledge
ID: 20111621
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 22:20

The best thing about Ankiel is that huge upside. One of my favorite young players. I wanted him as well, but I thought maybe a little later in the draft. He was definitely on my pitchers list. #5 starters don't get a lot of chances early in the season. If you are inquiring about trade possibilities definitely look me up when this draft is over.

blockaa
Donor
ID: 550321519
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 22:35

Alright . . I'll go ahead use the trick. I'm sure you aren't considering this guy, Mikel, but nevertheless . . . NO peeking . .

16.2 Robert Fick

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 22:56

as, sledge said, ankiel has a HUGE upside. i can see him having an ok year, possibly 10-8, 190 K, 4.00 ERA, 1.45 WHIP

Mikel
ID: 5814539
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 23:43

Really sorry fellas the persons house i was ats INternet wasnt working so i had to wait till i came home....with no further delays

15.12 Carlos Lee

16.1 Roberto Hernandez

Again, I'm very sorry

wazaaap_guy
ID: 5178246
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 23:57

blockaa picks
16.2 Robert Fick

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sat, Feb 16, 2002, 23:57

From Post #74

blockaa 16.2 Robert Fick

wiggs
ID: 11032171
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 01:20

16.3 John Olerud

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 01:38

I'm headed out for the night. I'll check back in tomorrow afternoon.

Sledge
ID: 7121170
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 10:22

'sup wazaaap? your up!

wazaaap_guy
ID: 5178246
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 12:13

16.4 Scott Strickland
He's the closer, right?

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 12:14

16.5 Ramon Hernandez

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 12:15

tduncan is on the clock
Dan is on deck
Chuck is in the hole

tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 14:09

I'm here and will pick in a sec

tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 14:11

16.6 Ben Petrick

Sledge
ID: 7121170
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 16:12

Dan-- you are up man.

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 17:11

I'm here... lucky I didn't miss anything. ;-)

I'll be around for another hour or so, and then I'll be back around 9(C)

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:14

Maybe this was explained before, but anyone want to give me the commands for the "invisible ink"? I'll leave my next 2 choices if Dan doesn't show up in the next 15 minutes or so...

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:23

Just change the font color like this [font="ffffff"]
Highlight above and change the [ to <

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:26

messed up, make that fontcolor grey

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:26

Hello

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:27

Testing 1 2 3

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:28

I'll self-edit all this once I figure it out... ;-)

hello

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:28

I'm messing something up. Goto the OT Memento thread in the baseball forum and look at the sourcecode. ;)

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:30

Grrr... I hate this stuff. #:-| Do I have to put the font color on the beginning and end of what I'm saying?

Another test

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:32

Take #5

I am getting really annoyed!!

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:33

WOO HOO!!

Me feels smart

Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:34

Khahan, you were close... it was "e's" instead of "f's"

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Chuck
ID: 121141515
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:41

OK... it's not letting me self-edit. Anyway, the next player I would like to pick is:

Mike Williams, CL - Pitt

As always, Dan, please don't peak. I would put down my 2nd pick, but I think there is a chance he might make it back to me. Hopefully Dan will show up in the next 5 minutes, though.

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Sledge
ID: 7121170
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:49

6 picks to me - so i am probably safe. Thought I'd let you guys know that I will be out until about 9pm cst. Basketball tonite......if i don't break a leg I'll be back on later

102

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 18:55

If we can get Dan on, we get blast through a couple. Chuck left his 1 man que and I know who I want. Would be the quickest movement we've had since before Valentine's Day.
On that note:
If you know there is a good chance you will not be able to check in for a long time (couple of hours, a day, half a day or whatever), please at least try and log on and let us know. I think we all understand if you don't want to leave a que at this point, but please at least try to let us know when you'll be gone for an extended period.

103

Dan
ID: 371211321
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 20:55

16.7 Brad Fullmer

104

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:00

Chuck takes
16.8 Mike Williams

105

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:05

Khahan is on the clock
EH is on deck
MNG is in the hole
Sledge said be'd be back in 60 minutes to make the turn.

106

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:13

16.9 Derek Lowe
Ok, Here's my question. He is 'slated' to be in the starting rotation this season, but based on last season, he should be a closer. So, what does that make him in my team?

107

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:14

closer...until he qualifies at starter.

And with my pick:

16.10 Trot Nixon

108

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:15

16.11 Paul Abbott

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Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:29

EH, you stole Nixon right out from under me. If I didn't feel I needed a pitcher that round I would have taken Nixon. Nice pick for this late in the game, I think. He should be due for at least 25 Homers and 25 SB's. If he doesn't click this season and put up big numbers, I don't think he ever will.
Now I need to find somebody else for next round.

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CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:31

too bad such a good pick was wasted on the worst team in the league.....hope you can find a replacement.

111

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:33

No EH, I've got the worst team in the league. You've got the second worst. Remember. Unless my roster doesn't really count since I'm a rookie. ;)

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Sledge
ID: 7121170
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:39

16.12 Jason Varitek, c

Guess i have to take a sorry catcher eventually

113

Sledge
ID: 7121170
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:42

I should be taking one of the closers that are available, but instead I'll take

17.1 David Wells, p

Call me stupid - but the remaining closers leave a lot to be desired. Guess I'll take some reject in round 25

114

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:44

Well, between EH and Sledge, my que just completely emptied. Back to the drawing board.

115

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:45

ok, I'll pick in a few!

116

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:51

17.2 Chuck Knoblauch

117

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:57

Sorry Khahan....the key word of the day is depth and to add to it I'll select:

17.3 Todd Walker

118

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:58

Still researching. I've actually gotten my finger on 3 players quickly. Trying to decide which direction to go.
Need a few more minutes

119

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 21:59

I'd like to make a polite request for a new thread.

120

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 22:01

Ok, I'll make my pick in a new thread, unless you guys want to start it out with the graph above?

121

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 22:04

Actually, I'll make my pick here and just let the graph start out the next thread. On that note, I have some really nice players lined up in my que and I'm not sure they will get around to me. But 2 would just be bench and I think I need to make sure my starting line up is chosen before I go too deep on the bench so...
17.4 Aaron Boone, 3B
I'm probably a bit higher on the guy than I should be, but I like his potential. He can put together some very nice strings of offense.

122

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 22:05

Had I not been so deep at 3B (Glaus and Fonzie) I would have given Boone more serious consideration. Only thing not to like is his propensity to get bitten by the injury bug. Good upside though.

123

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 22:09

All I got to say is I'm glad I pick before you (EH) and Sledge again. At the rate you guys are going you'd take the 2 bench warmers I skipped over. I still wouldn't be surprised to see them go before it comes back to me, though.

124

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 22:22

Sorry tdunc....looks like I broke your chart!

First person to take a bench player! :)

125

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 22:29

I'm out for the night. I'll be back around 7:30A EST tomorrow morning.
I've got about a 5 player que and I'm branding my name on all of them. So please, before you pick, check for my brand. If its there, keep moving.

126

Chuck
ID: 501351722
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 22:37

I am here and will pick shortly...

127

Chuck
ID: 501351722
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 22:50

There was more to choose from than I thought there would be in Round 17. I know this guy will never make it back to me, though.

17.5 Tony Womack

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tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 22:52

is Dan around?

129

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 22:56

solid pick, I think everyone overlooked that guy.

130

Chuck
ID: 501351722
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 22:57

It's picks like that, that make me the clear-cut #2 team in the league. ;-)

131

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 23:01

I'm here so we can get some more picks in tonight.

132

CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 23:03

Dan's around...doing some research...everyone hold your posts.

133

Dan
ID: 371211321
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 23:28

17.6 Carl Everett

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tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 23:31

Brian Jordan

guys I have the new charts ready, so I will start a new thread.

135

tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 23:31

thats 17.7 brian jordan

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tduncan
ID: 47616279
Sun, Feb 17, 2002, 23:38

allright, new thread

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