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Posted by: ChicagoTRS - Sustainer [300252621] Tue, Feb 19, 2002, 23:39
Chuck

Draft 3 - Round by Round
Chuck Khahan wazaaap_guy wiggs Rabid Chicken ChicagoTRS Mr. Nice Guy Rogues Strikers Knightmare Dylan
1 Alex Rodriguez Pedro Martinez Randy Johnson Todd Helton Mike Piazza Sammy Sosa Barry Bonds Curt Schilling Vladimir Guererro Ichiro Suzuki
2 Mike Mussina Jeff Bagwell Ivan Rodriquez Greg Maddux Manny Ramirez Derek Jeter Roberto Alomar Albert Pujols Chipper Jones Jason Giambi
3 Mariano Riviera Jeff Kent Nomar Garciapara Tim Hudson Matt Morris Kevin Brown Luis Gonzalez Shawn Green Javier Vazquez Troy Glaus
4 Gary Sheffield Roger Clemens Lance Berkman Magglio Ordonez Juan Gonzalez Ken Griffey Jr Freddy Garcia Barry Zito Bobby Abreu Miguel Tejada
5 Carlos Delgado Larry Walker Roy Oswalt Trevor Hoffman Mark Mulder Kerry Wood Rafeal Palmiero Phil Nevin Mike Sweeny Daryl Kile
6 Alfonso Soriano Rich Aurilia Jason Kendall Brett Boone Scott Rolen Ryan Klesko Kazuhiro Sasaki J.D. Drew Rob Nen Brian Giles
7 Al Leiter Paul Loduca Keith Foulke Jorge Posada Moises Alou Eric Chavez Jon Lieber Armando Benitez Jimmy Rollins Chan Ho Park
8 Corey Koskie Frank Catalonotto Aramis Ramirez Andrew Jones Troy Percival Jason Isringhausen Jeff Cirillo Billy Wagner Mark Buehrle Bernie Williams
9 Adam Dunn Ugueth Urbina Billy Koch Juan Pierre Richie Sexson Craig Biggio Christian Guzman Frank Thomas Cliff Floyd Ray Durham
10 Edgardo Alfonzo Trot Nixon Shannon Stewart Russ Ortiz Bartolo Colon Carlos Beltran Roger Cedeno Josh Beckett Wade Miller John Smoltz
11 Jim Edmonds Juan Uribe Luis Castillo Adrian Beltre Tom Glavine Jim Thome Andy Pettite Jose Vidro Jose Ortiz Jamie Moyer
12 Bob Wickman Bud Smith Eric Milton Preston Wilson Matt Anderson Hideo Nomo Johnny Damon Jose Cruz John Burkett Joe Mays
13 Brad Radke James Baldwin Ryan Dempster Brad Penny Darin Erstad C.C.Sabathia Robert Person Tom Gordon Kelvim Escobar Sean Casey
14 Mo Vaughn Aaron
Boone		 Paul
Konerko		 Jose Mesa Orlando
Cabrera		 Mike Cameron Cory Lidle Rafael Furcal Toby Hall Jeff Weaver
15 Raul
Mondesi		 Woody
Williams		 Richard Hidalgo Tony Womack Edgar Martinez Jeff Zimmerman Antonio Alfonseca Byung-Hyun Kim Aaron Sele Javy Lopez
16 Mike Lieberthal Jason Varitek Randy Wolf Kevin Millwood Roy Halladay Robert Fick Charles Johnson Rick Ankiel Garett Anderson Jermaine Dye
17 Danny Graves Bobby Higginson Carlos Pena Tony Armas Jr Fernando Vina Matt Lawton John Olerud Morgan Ensberg Jarrod Washburn Jeromy Burnitz
18 Pedro Astacio Paul Quantrill Scott Strickland Eric Young Chris Carpenter Jason Schmidt Ben Sheets Brandon Duckworth Tony Clark Kazuisha Ishii
19 Jose Valentin Kenny Lofton Pat Burrell Rick Reed Chad Fox Roberto Hernandez Sean Burroughs Carlos Hernandez Fred McGriff Mike Lowell
20 Brian Jordan Joel Piniero Carlos Lee Carl Everett Dimitri Young Juan Cruz A.J. Burnett Ramon Hernandez Ellis Burks Mike Hampton
21 Dustin Hermanson Erubiel Durazo                
Catcher 1st Baseman 2nd Baseman Shortstop 3rd Baseman Outfield Utility Starting Pitcher Relief Pitcher
12 18 12 11 16 46 1 61 25

1ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 300252621
      Tue, Feb 19, 2002, 23:40 		Team Rosters

Team Rosters - Draft 3

Chuck Khahan wazaaap_guy wiggs Rabid Chicken ChicagoTRS Mr. Nice Guy Rogues Strikers Knightmare Dylan
C Mike Lieberthal Paul LoDuca Ivan Rodriquez Jorge Posada Mike Piazza Robert Fick Charles Johnson Ramon Hernandez Toby Hall Javy Lopez
   
1B Carlos Delgado Jeff Bagwell Paul Konerko Todd Helton Richie Sexson Ryan Klesko Rafael Palmiero Frank Thomas Mike Sweeney Jason Giambi
2B Alfonso Soriano Jeff Kent Luis Castillo Brett Boone Fernando Vina Craig Biggio Roberto Alomar Jose Vidro Jose Ortiz Ray Durham
 
SS Alex Rodriguez Rich Aurilia Nomar Garciapara Tony Womack Orlando Cabrera Derek Jeter Christian Guzman Rafael Furcal Jimmy Rollins Miguel Tejada
3B Corey Koskie Aaron Boone Aramis Ramirez Adrian Beltre Scott Rolen Eric Chavez Jeff Cirillo Phil Nevin Chipper Jones Troy Glaus
IF Edgardo Alfonzo Frank Catalanotto Carlos Pena Eric Young Edgar Martinez Jim Thome John Olerud Morgan Ensburg Tony Clark Sean Casey
 
F Gary Sheffield Larry Walker Lance Berkman Magglio Ordonez Manny Ramirez Sammy Sosa Barry Bonds Shawn Green Vladimir Guererro Ichiro Suzuki
OF Adam Dunn Trot Nixon Shannon Stewart Andrew Jones Juan Gonzalez Ken Griffey Jr Luis Gonzalez J.D. Drew Bobby Abreu Brian Giles
OF Jim Edmonds Bobby Higginson Richard Hidalgo Juan Pierre Moises Alou Carlos Beltran Roger Cedeno Jose Cruz Cliff Floyd Bernie Williams
Kenny Lofton
OF Raul Mondesi Jason Kendall Preston Wilson Darin Erstad Mike Cameron Johnny Damon Albert Pujols Garett Anderson  Jermaine Dye
     
B Mo Vaughn Jason Varitek Pat Burrell Carl Everett Matt Lawton Sean Burroughs   Fred McGriff Jeremy Burnitz
B Jose Valentin Juan Uribe Carlos Lee Dimitri Young Ellis Burks Mike Lowell
       
B Brian Jordan Erubiel Durazo      
B        
B      
B   Carlos Hernandez  
B Rick Reed Chad Fox Juan Cruz A.J. Burnett Brandon Duckworth  
P Mike Mussina Pedro Martinez Randy Johnson Greg Maddux Matt Morris Kevin Brown Freddy Garcia Curt Schilling Javier Vazquez Daryl Kile
P Al Leiter Roger Clemens Roy Oswalt Tim Hudson Mark Mulder Kerry Wood Jon Lieber Barry Zito Mark Buehrle Chan Ho Park
P Brad Radke Bud Smith Eric Milton Russ Ortiz Bartolo Colon Hideo Nomo Andy Pettite Josh Beckett Wade Miller Jamie Moyer
P Pedro Astacio James Baldwin Ryan Dempster Brad Penny Tom Glavine C.C.Sabathia Robert Person Rick Ankiel John Burkett Joe Mays
P Dustin Hermanson Woody Williams Randy Wolf Kevin Millwood Roy Halladay Jason Schmidt Cory Lidle Byung-Hyun Kim Aaron Sele Jeff Weaver
P Danny Graves Joel Piniero Scott Strickland Tony Armas Jr. Chris Carpenter Roberto Hernandez Ben Sheets Tom Gordon Jarrod Washburn Kazuhisa Ishii
P Bob Wickman Paul Quantrill Billy Koch Jose Mesa Matt Anderson Jeff Zimmerman Antonio Alfonseca Armando Benitez Kelvim Escobar Mike Hampton
P Mariano Rivera Ugueth Urbina Keith Foulke Trevor Hoffman Troy Percival Jason Isringhausen Kazuhiro Sasaki Billy Wagner Rob Nen John Smoltz
2ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 300252621
      Tue, Feb 19, 2002, 23:43 		Updated charts...made some changes...added multiple position players. I am sure some people will rearrange lineup and pitching staffs but should give everyone a good idea right now. Only 5 more rounds to go!


wazaaap_guy is on the clock with the next pick.
3Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 551411923
      Tue, Feb 19, 2002, 23:45 		I think Yahoo will take Thomas's career into account when deciding his position. We'll see though, I can always play Pujols at 1B, Thomas at IF, and trade for/draft another OF.
4Dylan
      ID: 55432121
      Tue, Feb 19, 2002, 23:51 		thanks chicago, looks wicked.
5wazaaap_guy
      ID: 5178246
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 01:35 		21.3 Kevin Appier
6wiggs
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      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 01:44 		21.4 Jason Marquis
7Rabid Chickens @home
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      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 08:41 		21.5 Miguel Batista
8ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 58735170
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 09:22 		21.6 Luis Rivas
9Khahan
      ID: 12432113
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 12:58 		Hey guys, just and FYI. I 've got a bit of time this evening, tomorrow afternoon until 4 and Friday until 4. Tomorrow evening I will not be around. Friday my wife is taking me out for my birthday after work. Once I leave work Friday at 4pm est, I probably won't get much chance to log on until late sunday evening or possibly Monday morning.
I'd love to see this wrapped up by the weekend. Think we can all make a concerted effort to get on line a couple of times a day and check on who's pick it is?
Only 4 rounds to go.
10Mr. Nice Guy
      ID: 421124113
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 13:30 		Ok, give me a few and I'll pick.
11Mr. Nice Guy
      ID: 421124113
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 13:38 		Bit of a gamble: 21.7 Barry Larkin
12Dylan
      ID: 55432121
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 15:57 		I'll be around till about 4:30est, then I will be out till about 10:30, There are 2 more picks till mine. If I don't get a chance to pick maybe I can leave a queue with someone...
13wiggs
      ID: 1911252811
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 15:59 		dylan, i would take it, but the way things are going lately, i am going to go out tonight too. I will be back around 1130 or 12. It probably wont be my pick before then anyways.
14Dylan
      ID: 55432121
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 16:03 		Ok thats cool wiggs, maybe if no one will be around, I can leave my next 2 picks in the trade thread...There are only 2 before me.
15ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 5031911
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 16:10 		Dylan...you can email me a queue or leave it in the trade thread...ChicagoTRS@aol.com...I should be around most of tonight.
16Dylan
      ID: 55432121
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 16:12 		Ok thanks Chicago... I will email it to you..
17Dylan
      ID: 55432121
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 16:29 		alright Chicago I sent it to you...later boys..
18Chuck
      ID: 501351722
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 17:09 		Just a note to all, I am now going to be gone until tomorrow morning. I have youth group to work at tonight and I am headed home for 1 4-day winter break immediately following. I would leave a queue if my pick wasn't so far away, but I'll check back in tomorrow morning.
19Rabid Chickens @home
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      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 19:36 		I will be gone from 7 till about 9 (central)or so tonight but will pick when I get back
20Rogue's Strikers
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      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 19:54 		Sorry for the delay guys. I came home around 1, turned on my computer, started a virus scan, and plopped down on my bed waiting for the scan to finish. Next thing I know its 7:45. Guess I was tired. ;)

Pick coming up soon.
21Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 551411923
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 20:02 		21.8 Jeff Shaw

Why not... Pick this late, might turn into a top closer.
22Khahan
      ID: 567232217
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 20:07 		Might turn into an empty roster spot, too if he doesn't sign with somebody. Good luck with him.
23Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 551411923
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 20:25 		Yep, but in round 21 who cares?
24ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 58735170
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 20:35 		damn...rogue I had Shaw tabbed for next round.

Good pick...if he doesn't sign simple enough to release him and pick up a free agent in his place.

I have Dylans picks if Knightmare shows up...
25Knightmare
      ID: 74342318
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 20:52 		I'll take 21.9 Doug Mientkiewicz
26ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 58735170
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 21:00 		Dylan picks...

21.10 Esteban Yan

&

22.1 Pokey Reese
27Knightmare
      ID: 74342318
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 22:43 		22.2 Mark Quinn
28Rogue's Strikers
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      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 23:04 		22.3 Darryl Ward
29TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 23:10 		wiggs-
you need to look into trading for Sean Burroughs (Mr. Nice Guy). sorry, just kinda butting in on this league, but he got a steal! Burroughs will be huge, but that is just my opinion.

THK
30Mr. Nice Guy
      ID: 421124113
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 23:12 		22.4 Doug Glanville
31wiggs
      ID: 1911252811
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 23:12 		tarheel, what made you pick me out?
32Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 551411923
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 23:16 		My guess would be that he thinks Beltre is the weakest 3B of those chosen to start so far. I think Cirillo and Boone are weaker, and its never a good idea to trade for a young rookie who has yet to play a game. The hype around him will make his value very high, and he may just struggle alot.

Also, if I was MNG, I'd be keeping Burroughs as backup for Cirillo. Cirillo couldn't even hit 20 HR at Coors, he could be in for a big drop in production this year.
33wiggs
      ID: 1911252811
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 23:18 		i think beltre is good. I am going to hold on to him
34Rogue's Strikers
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      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 23:22 		I do too. Looking at every team, I'd say everyone has a solid 3B. Its really not a weak position anymore. Even with Chipper moving to the OF next season, 3B will be a deep position for a few years to come.

The only team in the league who I think is weak at 3B is Khahan, and even Boone has alot of upside.
35ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 58735170
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 23:26 		i am here will pick in a minute...
36ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 58735170
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 23:30 		22.5 Mark McLemore
37Mr. Nice Guy
      ID: 421124113
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 23:34 		I'm just hungry for the season to start. Whatever will be will be. If Burroughs doesn't pan out it is no big loss because he was the 187th pick. JUST GOTTA HAVE FAITH.
38Rabid Chickens @home
      ID: 367181310
      Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 23:51 		22.6 Todd Hollandsworth
39wiggs
      ID: 1911252811
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 00:02 		22.7 Mike Williams
40Dylan
      ID: 55432121
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 00:25 		Thanks for picking my players for me Chicago, had to work late, then watched Canada win...
41wazaaap_guy
      ID: 5178246
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 07:16 		22.8 Edgar Renteria
42Khahan
      ID: 12432113
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 09:44 		researching my pick now.
43Khahan
      ID: 12432113
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 09:56 		22.9 Placido Polanco
44Chuck
      ID: 35853023
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 12:29 		All right... I just drove in. I'll research and pick pretty soon
45Chuck
      ID: 35853023
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 12:36 		so you all know, too, I don't have any of my draft sheets at home, so over the next few picks, I'm sure I won't be taking some of the best players and I will pick some that have already been picked. I'll try my best not to repick, but I don't want to sacrifice too much by missing any obvious picks.
46Chuck
      ID: 35853023
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 12:45 		22.10 Octavio Dotel
23.1 Ricky Gutierrez


Can someone confirm that these two are clear...?
47ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 5031911
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 12:48 		looks good to me...
48Mr. Nice Guy
      ID: 421124113
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 12:57 		I concur.
49Khahan
      ID: 12432113
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 14:04 		I'll make my picks in a few.
50Khahan
      ID: 12432113
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 14:19 		23.2 Fernando Tatis
51ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 5031911
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 15:30 		waaazap on the clock...
52wazaaap_guy
      ID: 5178246
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 18:32 		23.3 Eddie Guardado
53wiggs
      ID: 1911252811
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 21:24 		23.4 jason bere
54Rabid Chickens @home
      ID: 367181310
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 21:38 		23.5 Matt Herges
55Mr. Nice Guy
      ID: 421124113
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 21:42 		Chicago on the clock.
56ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 58735170
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 22:29 		23.6 Nick Johnson
57Mr. Nice Guy
      ID: 421124113
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 23:19 		23.7 Paul Abbott
58Dylan
      ID: 55432121
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 23:29 		just to let you boys know, Yahoo is up and running..
59Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 13140217
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 23:34 		23.8 Orlando Cabrera
60Mr. Nice Guy
      ID: 421124113
      Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 23:35 		Perhaps someone should set up this draft so we can compete in a Yahoo league?
62wiggs
      ID: 1911252811
      Fri, Feb 22, 2002, 00:05 		rogue, cabera was grabbed along time ago by rabid
63ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 58735170
      Fri, Feb 22, 2002, 00:07 		ooops...damn already put him in my charts...oh well I am blowing away that thread...will wait for the next pick. I was thinking Cabrera was a sweet player to be getting this late...
64ChicagoTRS
      Sustainer
      ID: 58735170
      Fri, Feb 22, 2002, 00:17 		Started a new thread...

Updated the charts...

Only 2 more rounds to go!
65Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 13140217
      Fri, Feb 22, 2002, 01:40 		Oops, so was I. I checked TRS chart and missed him for some reason. Gimme a second and I'll pick again.
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