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0 Subject: Perfect Keeper League - Discussion

Posted by: APerfect10
- [39143521] Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 15:50

This thread will be for 'The Perfect Keeper League' draft discussion...
1APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 15:51
Updated thread to make your draft picks
2APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 15:54
I will be in class until 5:40 PM (EST) today...

I am hoping to have another short live draft tonight. I am waiting for kbridges3's response with what time he will be available, then I will be mass emailing the league.

Currently, it looks like we'll be drafting, starting at 10:30 pm (EST), if that suites everyone.
3the ART of MONK
      ID: 35226511
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 17:01
Are we really getting together tonite? We also need to get everybody to check more during the day.
4APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 17:47
I really dont understand why people havent been checking in. We specifically said last night that we would be slow drafting all day. It has now been almost 5 hours and no response from nerfherders.
5APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 17:51
kbridges3 said he will try to get on tonight at 10:00 PM (EST), to draft some. Hopefully everyone else can be on also....let me know.
6beebop@school
      ID: 52271918
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 18:10
Im here, for about 50 minutes. then i have to go.
7beebop@school
      ID: 52271918
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 18:34
I should be back on before 10.
8TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 18:36
I ready all night long baby! Did I make a bad move with 7.3 Josh Beckett, P, Prospect??? I have seen him go and go and go before me each draft and I really wanted him here. Now that I look back on it...I wish I had drafted somebody else instead of Sheffield, it may even hurt me.

ART OF MONK-
What a staff!!!

THK
9APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 19:21
Draft Time Tonight
10:00 pm EST tonight, similiar to last night...
I've gotten the ok from everyone except Bossman, and I am assuming ART would've spoke up. I'll see everyone then.
10APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 19:23
ThK, do you want Josh Beckett on your prospect list or regular roster. I was unsure and will let you change it to prospect if you like...
11APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 19:47
Ike44 is on the clock but is in class until 9:00 pm EST...
12the art of monk
      ID: 127392513
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 20:22
bossman is just kind of in. he will check in, but he is guessing that his pick will be in the fourth quarter of of laker mavs game. I'll check in sometime after 8 to see if wer are even close to his pick or mine.
13TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 20:28
Ap10-
As of right now leave him there, but that isn't final for the season.

THK
14beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 00:10
im not sure if i can make it for 10, depends if i can get off school.....but if not, ill leave a que with someone..... who should i leave it with???
15the art of monk
      ID: 127392513
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 00:38
what a busy night and so many pissed of owners. Kbridges seemed like a quality guy, something might have come up. I say we institute a new rule because we need to speed things up, most everybody was around today except 2 people and they did leave a que. I am not a big fan a ques as well, but hell I am sick of wasting time because someone is not committed or they don't have the time. IF you it is your pick for more than 2hrs and you didnot leave a que, someone will make the pick for you. We can do this a two ways. First you decide which owner can make a pick or second the owner that is farthest away from your pick will make the pick. You can also leave a que with several different people if needed.
A que would have been helpful here, yes you might not get the exact person you wanted with the pick. I think this rule should take affect between the hours of 11estam and 11estpm time. I think this covers the east and west coast. In kbridges def, he was still 8 picks away after his pick, I think he could have left a reasonalbe que though. I think we need a vote on the issue because today was pathetic, by the time I pick again it will be close to 24hrs for one rd. Extremely weak.
We had it on the chat room, he needs OF, 1b or 3b. If he didn't like it he could have trade it.
16wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 00:49
Art, NO WAY! I will not agree to that, because i know i wont be around all the time and i am not leavine a 50 player queue. I have been sitting here waiting patiently for my pick and i will not be punished for someone else not showing up. This rule CAN NOT happen
17APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 01:17
I agree with Wiggs, by no means should someone be forced to leave a queue...

Now, if you DO NOT want to leave a queue, you should be checking frequently on the draft and show up during the times scheduled. It is a VERY HARD job to get 10 people online at the same time. Please do not make it any harder for me...
18APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 01:19
It appears kbridges3 is not going to make his pick tonight. It is now 1:30 and I am going to bed. I will be up around 9-10 EST and will make my selection then, if the pick before me has been made.
19wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 01:20
AP10, you are right, you do work hard trying to get everyone there. The problem is 1 guy doesnt show up and we can get nothing accomplished. Not only that, but the 1 guy that didnt show up, still hasnt made a pick 3 and a half hours after he was supposed to. I understand people are busy, and sometimes cant get to a fast draft, but dont say you will be there and have 9 others waiting for you. Thanks for the time and effort AP10
20TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 07:58
I got up ready to pick...but no. I won't be home around until after 5 CST. Ap10-Try and be setting up another time ASAP because we have to catch kbridges to make sure he can be on since we have trouble with him. Cya guys.

THK
21the art of monk
      ID: 127392513
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 08:55
I think we need to do something. I am not asking for a 50 player que, what about 8-10 player. I am sure that I am like everyone else and don't want to wast another evening and tie up the phone line for the people that don't have the dsl like myself. Even if kbridges makes his pick now we won't get past thk until 5pm unless he left and que and it doesn't sound like he did. That will make it around 30 hrs after I made my last pick. If we continue at this rate, I'll make sure to check back in in another day or two. I think a leaving a que is not perfect but hell it will get us closer to playing. I'll bet we could figure out the next 5-6 picks with about 80% accuracy. I might not have the order but I can guess the players. My biggest issue is that I will be out of town starting sunday and will have extremely limited access. So I guess, I will be penelatized big tim them.
22APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 10:04
Here is the problem...

kbridges3 is available as follows :

Mon-Fri : During the day & LATE night
Weekends: ?

During the day people work and go to school therefore a live draft is essentially out. Weekends do not suite many people either, therefore that leaves us with LATE nights which isnt the best situation for many of us.

My point is this. At some point everyone has to make this league a priority for one time. I do not care when, but it needs to be done. If a few people do not make this league a priority for atleast one night or one weekend during the day, this draft will never get completed.

ie ) This week I have so much work and I had set aside Monday & Tuesday night to draft, and I would stay up a little later or do whatever the rest of the week to get my work done.

Since I have pushed back my work, tonight (Wednesday night) is out for me. I have so much stuff due, there is NO chance I can live draft. If it would suite everyone to live draft Thursday night, I will make it a priority to be on.

I will email Kbridges3 this afternoon about the situation...
23the ART of MONK
      ID: 35226511
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 10:14
What is late night? I agree with you that everyone needs to make it a priority for a periond of time. I will email kbridges and tell him to get off his ass, it has been his pick for about 12 hrs. I have had the two people email me that were interested when kbridges person flaked out and they might still be interested. For the good of league, it might be in our best interest to boot some less serious owners or owners that don't have time to draft. I am not singling anyone out. Kbridges was pretty forward with his schedule except the no show last night. It just might be another option and it will be an option if we don't get much done by friday.
24wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 10:43
KBRIDGES PICK DAM IT THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!!!
25APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 15:08
wiggs & ART, will you be available next week in the evenings/nights, to fast draft? I am currently in the process of discussing the problems with kbridges and finding a common time.
26beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 15:25
Mondays and Tuesdays are the better nights for me if we start at 10. I cant say a definite yes for wednesday, because i have to find out the time for the school basketball game (god knows i need that $29) :)
But if need be, i will leave someone a que. Who would be the best person to leave it with???
27beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 15:28
And i dont think i will be able to get on today before 11:30pm ET. Should i leave a que today???
28wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 15:30
beebop, definately leave one
my email is wiggs1766@hotmail.com
i wont even look til after my pick, you can trust me
29wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 15:30
AP10, next week is my spring break, no nights are good to sit for along time. I will check as much as possible, but no commitment.
30beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 15:32
Thanx wiggs, i will email you in an hour or two, just to see if any more picks are made, and then who was picked etc. etc.
31wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 15:37
sounds good beebop
32Bossman
      ID: 35226511
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 15:39
Hell, beebop at this rate you should be fine, but leave a que. When will you look at this again? I will be available in the evening next week, but I won't really have access, I only have local dial-up. I might be able to do something Thursday at a friends. What time does THK get home?
33APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 15:42
It appears we MAY not get this draft done. Would anyone be opposed that we go with who we got (as of opening day) and I will add players to be available after each round is completed? I would imagine this would only affect some of your bench & prospects for the first week.
34Art of Monk
      ID: 35226511
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 15:50
that last bossman post was mine. I say we deal with that as we get closer to opening day. I think it would work just as long as everybody has a complete roster. I will be able to check in while on my trip and I will be in touch with the bossman. I will also leave a que for a pick or two. What time does THK get HOME?
35beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 15:56
Ill be constantly checking over the next hour or so, and depending on what we do in class, i should be able to check at about 8pm ET.
36wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:01
i heard THK will be back at like 615 EST
37TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:09
I picked. Go Art..

THK
38beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:13
If anyone takes my players, im going to be very disappointed. I guess thats the bad thing about going 1st/10th, you have to wait the longest between goes. Oh well. So far, so good.....lol.
Who thinks we should try and live draft on friday or saturday???
39wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:15
I am out friday and saturday, i will be in the process of moving and there is no way i cant sit on a computer
40beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:18
Okay, just a suggestion. Have fun moving.
It looks like ive got the day off school, but im going to see a doctor sometime today though. Ill be on basically all day.
41beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:20
Ooops, spoke too soon, there goes Chavez....lol.
42APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:20
What the heck types of schools do they have in Australia? lol...
43beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:22
What do you mean AP10???
44Art of Monk
      ID: 35226511
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:24
anyone interested in a trade for a 3b?? email me at mboyack@saff.utah.edu Probably pick for me this rd. and swap picks next rd.
45wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:25
THK just left, said he would be back in an hour. We are stuck again
46Art of Monk
      ID: 35226511
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:34
I was hoping to get to Kbridges before he is gone for the night. I guess I'll be picking in another 30 hrs. or so. But I check back sometime tonight.
47wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:34
THK is here
48TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:40
art of monk-
You took 2 3B's! How rude was that!

THK
49wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:43
is bossman still around?
50Art of Monk
      ID: 35226511
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:48
bossman is in a meeting but will be picking in the next 15-20. I figure this is the rd. of the 3b, so I took 2 hoping to be able to trade one if not, I am happy with them both.
51beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 16:53
Luckily i already took mine. If we only have 9 pitchers, can we still bench some of them??? Or would we have to put a prospect pitcher on that we know wouldnt pitch (just thinking about tough opponents, innings restrictments etc.)
52TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:01
artofmonk-
i am interested in trading for ramirez later!

also interested in trading bonds everyone...but just waiting til the draft is over...if ever! ;-)

THK
53TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:09
Hope if kbridges comes he will stick around...

THK
54beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:15
I just hope i get to pick today :) Nearly half way through the 9th round.
55wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:17
beebop, remember when you leave to send me your queue, i will be here all night
56beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:19
I should be satying most of the time now, except for about 30 mins or so. I got the day off school :). Ill leave one if its near my pick and i have to go to the doctors. Ill also leave one most nights if its near my pick and i have to go to bed.
57wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:20
ok, sounds good to me.
58Art of Monk
      ID: 35226511
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:21
who is tap tap and what position does he play or team for that matter?
THK I will remember you are interested in ramirez, but I would prefer to make trade during the draft, if not we should be able to work something out.
59beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:34
lol@artofmonk. do we classify that as his real pick??? anyone know where AP10 is???
60beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:39
LMAO @ap10's comment that went with his pick!!!
61wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:45
we are up to Kbridges now. Are we done for the night? has anyone talked to him today?
62beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:46
Lol, hope not, i just want to pick!!!
63wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:47
kbridge posted on the other message board, hopefully he will be around.
64beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:48
If he does, then the next question is, when will dan be online???
65wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:50
dan is on
66Art of Monk
      ID: 35226511
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 17:53
wow look at this thing move. Ap10, bossman was glad to get Chan Ho, but I wouldn't tell him to FU he is a big bad mofo and does bench sets with 225. I don't believe the movement. I might actuactly get to pick again today.
67beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 18:06
Anyone know when nerfherders and ike will be online???
68Nerfherders
      ID: 492431415
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 18:14
I'm here guys. No AIM at work. I made my pick
69Art of Monk
      ID: 35226511
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 18:24
11 picks in just over two hours great. I wonder where the hold up will be tonight?
70beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 18:28
Porbably me, ive got basketball reffing tonight (semi finals). So ill be leaving a que with wiggs.
71wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 18:59
I assume that Kbridges is still around, i posted for him to leave a queue if he was leaving and i didnt get anything. hope that is a good sign
72beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 18:59
lol, we'll hopefully soon find out.
73wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 19:29
beebop, did you just send me a queue?
74APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 19:59
Is anyone else tired of waiting for kbridges, EVERY time its his pick practically...I can understand a wait once in a while but...
75TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 20:00
kbridges is a huge hold up...a common theme to the draft thus far.

THK
76APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 20:00
What makes it worse, I pick right after him, therefore I am waiting/anxious for hours!
77wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 20:00
AP10, i was thinking the same thing, this is starting to get to be total bs. If this happens every day we will NEVER get done.
78wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 20:01
i wrote him and asked him to leave a 1 man queue and he just disregarded my post.
79Nerfherders
      ID: 492431415
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 20:05
You notice he never posts here explaining himself? Not even apologizing.
80TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 20:08
he did in the other post...BUT he said he wasn't committed to last night, even when I was talking about THE ENTIRE SEASON...it is sad and pathetic.

THK
81APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 20:12
In his defense, he emailed me today after I emailed him suggesting that he was holding up the draft. I also stated that if he couldnt start getting a move on, that he should drop out of the league, even though I didnt want him to. I also suggested getting AIM to help things move. His response...

I'm aware that the season starts in 11 days. Let me try and explain this as best as I can: I don't set my schedule at night. I am assigned certain games on nights and there is nothing I can do about that. We will probably be rained out tonight and therefore tonight might work, however it won't work for some other people, I understand this. I don't want to drop out of
the league anymore than you want me to either. Thursday night is out, I have no control over that. Tuesday night March 26 I will be available
anytime after 9 pm EST. That is not too late. Since no one is willing to try and be available for the weekend, the only weekend I have free until the middle of June, Tuesday night is the only night I will be fully available for 1 1/2 to 2 hours to get this thing knocked out. I don't want to hold up anyone but I would appreciate a little patience. As I told you
yesterday, I don't have a computer at home, my wife and I are looking at buying one soon, in other words next year will not be like this years draft so far. The only internet access I have at the present time is here at work. If we can for sure say Tuesday night around 9 pm EST, I'm willing to stay until we are finished. So since I have no internet at home and only at work, I'm not able to download aim here at work. Within 2-3 weeks when my wife and I get a computer, I'll have aim access and I will be able to get you my aim name. Please let me know if this is acceptable. My hands are kind of tied here and I'll do what I can to help. I'm doing all I can to become available for the draft, I don't like this slow stuff anymore
than any of you do but please understand that I have no control over my work schedule.

thanks,

kevin


Hope he doesnt mind me posting this...

82APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 20:14
He said he would probably be available tonight...so I am unsure what the holdup is.
83wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 20:18
he could leave a 1 man queue, he picks before me, i wasnt going to steal his guy
84TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 20:53
The night he could be here...

THK
85APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 20:58
ART, who the hell interviewed this guy! Lol...i'm j/k. His picks are solid and he's a very nice guy, but his time is limited which really sucks for the rest of us.
86beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:16
Yeh, i did wiggs. Thanx.
87APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:17
kbridges3, please email me a phone number where I can reach you. Each time it is your pick I will call you and update you, and you can make your pick at home.
88wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:19
Beebop. i didnt want to look at it til i picked, so i wasnt bias with my picks. are you back for the night or am i still picking it some how it gets to you?
89Ike44
      ID: 480341319
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:20
this is crazy we need to get this thing going!!!!!!
90beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:21
Umm, ill send you another one depdning on how the rest of today goes. The one i sent you only had a couple players listed coz i was only going to be gone for and hour or so. But later ill be gone for several hours, so ill expand on the list.
91 rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:23
To Perfect Keeper Leaguers:

This is none of my business, but if it will help, I'd volunteer to be a surrogate picker for kbridges. If he doesn't mind and you guys don't mind, I could step in where ever needed. I'm pretty sure I have a better than average amount of baseball knowledge. kbridges could then run the team.

Just offering a helping hand. I have access pretty much 24/7. E-mail me if you need my help.

rfs ®
92wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:24
AP10, it would be clutch if you could find out that number, maybe we would be able to move.

Beebop, thats cool, send it whenever you want. I will be around.
93TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:28
Let RFS pick for kbridges...he needs it and we need it to finish!

:-)

THK
94wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:42
RFS, AP10 will allow you to pick for Kbridges, but only if you would be willing to run the team if Bridges gets pissed and quits. What do you think? He might just take your picks and be happy.
95rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:51
my AIM is rfsINphoenix .. hit me up to discuss.

96TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:51
Another night of waiting for kbridges...he said he could be here for sure tonight?

THK
97rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:56
Here is the deal, I'll pick. I'll even run the team for 1-2 weeks, but you guys have to get someone to take it over eventually. I have 13 baseball teams, can't do any more!
I don't want anyone pissed at me down the road. Hopefuly, k-bridges will like my picks

rfs ®

98beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 21:58
Thats sounds fair.....
99APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 22:01
Does anybody understand how hard it would be to find a new manager, let alone one who wouldnt mind taking over a team he did not pick? For a keeper league...
100beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 22:04
I could ask my friend.....
101TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 22:04
KBRIDGES SUCKS AP10! I don't know how he got in the league when everybody knew the commitment was huge!!! He can't even draft, much less run a team for yrs!

THK
102rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 22:05
Since I got about 5 IM's in 30 secs, please understand, I'm only offering to help. I don't want to make problems. I'll wait to hear from AP10 or kbridges before I jump in.

It's better to get it right than get it fast.

rfs ®
103APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 22:14
rfs, thanks once again for your support and offer of help. I'm sorry my league is very anxious and a million peopled IM'ed you. :) You hit the nail on the head with your last comment. We may call upon you in the future...

Thanks once again.

AP10
104beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 22:29
Doesnt look like we'll get much else done tonight. Ill wait a few more hours, then ill send wiggs anther que.
105APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 22:39
Draft Schedule
We will be slow drafting until next Tuesday night. Tuesday night kbridges3 is available to stay on until we finish the draft. I am assuming everyone can be online for awhile that night to finish the draft up. I have an exam until 10:30 EST therefore the draft can not start before that time. Currently wiggs can not give me a defininite yes, but he is going to try hard.

Hopefully by slow drafting for the next five days, we will be able to knock out 10-15 rounds (if everyone continues to check frequently). That will leave us with 15-20 rounds to draft in 3 hours next Tuesday night. I think this is very feasable and would get the draft finished before the season starts. Put this date in your books and make it a priority, because this will be our last chance to finish the draft.

Everyone, please calm down. We are all anxious to get this draft done, but the more excited everyone is, the more stressed your commissioner is and I can tell you its not fun. I am trying my hardest to make everything go smoothly. The last thing I need is to be pressured into making a decision I will regret down the road. Worst case scenario is we do not get the draft finished before opening day. Even if this happens, I see no harm done by starting the season with the players we have currently drafted. Then after each round is completed, I will add those players to your roster.

Thanks, AP10
106wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 22:42
AP10, i will make my pick in as timely of a fashion as i can. one advantage i have is picking on the end so i wont be holding it up very often. Good job with trying to keep this thing running. We all appriciate it.
107TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 22:44
Ap10-
Nice job, way to handle it. But I think you are on crack if you think we can do 10-15 rnds of draft by Tuesday, because at a pace like this we won't see the light of rnd 20. ;-) But if everyone shows up on Tuesday night we should be fine.

THK
108APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Wed, Mar 20, 2002, 23:19
TaRhEElKiD, we've drafted 3 rounds the past 2 days. That is 1.5 rounds per day. Even if we can get a 33% improvement and bump that up to 2 rounds per day, that would get us 10 rounds over the next 5 days. I figure over the weekend, things SHOULD speed up some, and hopefully we can draft 2.5-3 rounds per day on Saturday & Sunday. If this were to happy, we would then be around 12-13 rounds over the next 5 days.
109the art of monk
      ID: 127392513
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 00:39
Sorry guys he never mentioned that his time was this limited. I'm sorry I am out for tommorrow night, my buddy just called, I get to see MJ tommorrow night. First half, in the luxury sweet second half third row behind the bench. I got extremely lucky that he called me before he found out that MJ played tonite. I just have to brag about this.
Another option to our problem is to move kbridges in draft order, so that he picks back to back either first or last. I am willing to switch and I bet beebop would as well. Of course this is a commish call
Next Tuesday doesn't work for me, no access out of town, but I can leave a que with rockafellashank and let him use his discresion. I don't know if thk and wiggs will be available tommorrow morning. I know bossman has a meeting for a couple hours in the morning, and he will only get his pick in if kbridges gets his in early. All is well and I guess no one really wanted ramirez or chavez, maybe at the end of the draft?
110wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 00:56
i am available tomorrow morning, but Kbridges didnt pick today until almost 11, so it might not make a difference anyways. THK, if you wont be around and you want to email me a queue i will pick for you. I remember the guy you told me before you wanted so if that is still the case i will be prepared with him too. Just post or email me and let me know.

wiggs1766@hotmail.com
111beebop
      ID: 471056717
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 01:40
wiggs, i have sent you an updated que, that should cover the next 4 rounds, but i doubt ill be out that long. Thanx for helping me out.
112TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 08:11
THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!

I had sent Ike my 1 pick queue for this morning and I had thought FOR SURE I would have picked by now! This is crazy...we haven't even moved! Last night was kbridges night to be on the internet and take some time? Sure didn't see that...

UGH!!!

THK
113the art of monk
      ID: 127392513
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 09:07
lets move hims so he picks back to back. lets even give him andvantage so he will be willing to do it.
114kbridges3
      ID: 42421511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 09:18
Look, as you all read in my email to ap10, it looked like we would get rained out last night, didn't happen, I can't help it. I know you are all pissed, I'm sorry I can't help it. Here is what I've done if it will help, I have cancelled my games tonight so I should be able to start at 8 pm CST time tonight. I called our booking agent and told him something came up and I could not umpire tonight. If you are all agreeable to this we can get it done tonight, Thursday March 21. It is unfortunate that when I'm available most of you are not and when most of you are I'm not. I've made it pretty clear that the only internet access I have is here at work. I can't help it that I don't have a computer at home yet. Please be a little understanding here. AP10 I really do appreciate the job that you do and all the hardwork you have done to make this work. Since none of you think I have any commitment to this league, I've cancelled $100 worth of umpiring, I don't if any of you need the money but my family does, oh well one night won't kill us. Please be understanding with the time schedule. I can do it tonight or Tuesday night, whichever is better for the rest of you. One thing, I appreciate rockerafellskank saying he would draft for me, however this would be unacceptable. I'm not going to manage some team that I have not drafted, just as I would not expect any of you to do. If we want to get this out of the way and get things back to normal so we can actually enjoy baseball season, lets quit the bitching and draft. I don't get mad at all of you when we have to wait during the day, so I just ask for the same courtesy from all of you when I don't have access at night. I have rearranged my schedule to be available for tonight to make all of you happy, please email me or post a message saying it is ok with everyone.

thanks,

kevin
115Ike44
      ID: 480341319
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 10:41
kbridges i understand where you are coming from...however, would you want to leave a que to someone so when everyone is available and you are not we have a list of players so when it is ur turn we do not all have to wait?? just an opinion...
116APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 10:46
kbridges3, we all appreciate your committment to the league, and as I have stated in my emails to you, I understand the situation you are in, unlike many others. By your act of committment, I feel much better about my decision to not let others draft your team.

Now lets get some drafting done!
117kbridges3
      ID: 42421511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 11:40
thanks for the support, I am looking forward to this league and baseball season, Good Luck to all
118wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 11:52
kbridges, I understand you are busy. I have no problem with you not being here all the time. All i asked was yesterday that you leave a 1 man queue with me and left you my email and you didnt respond and you didnt email me a queue, so obviously you refused to do it and because of that we accomplished 9 picks in 1 hour and nothing for like 16 hours. We will never finish at this pace. As for tonight I will be going home after class because my spring break starts tonight and I am going out to dinner with my family and I probably and I have a meeting with my landlord to move into my new apartment so I will be busy with that. I can make no promises about being here at 10. I will do my best to be here by 11 or 1130. I would leave a queue, but i am like 16 picks away and i am not leaving a 20 man queue with anyone. Maybe if some picks get done this afternoon i will have a shot at leaving one, if not, I will pick later.
119kbridges3
      ID: 42421511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 12:15
I didn't ignore anything you sent, I just didn't see it until this morning. If we can't do it tonight then the only other night I have before opening day is next Tuesday. People in this league need to stop assuming things before they go out posting stuff about someone and have no clue as to what they are talking about. I will say this one more time for everyone here to see and so they can know it once and for all:

I HAVE NO COMPUTER AT HOME RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY INTERNET ACCESS I HAVE IS AT WORK, ANY POSTS MADE AFTER I LEAVE WORK, I WILL NOT SEE UNTIL THE FOLLOWING MORNING. STOP ASSUMING THAT I AM IGNORING REMARKS AND COMMENTS BECAUSE I AM NOT, I CAN'T IGNORE SOMETHING IF I DON'T KNOW IT IS THERE. HOPEFULLY MY WIFE AND I WILL BE GETTING A COMPUTER IN A COUPLE WEEKS AND THIS WHOLE MESS WILL BE OVER WITH AND WE CAN JUST PLAY BALL. I HAVE MADE SPECIAL ARRANGEMENTS TO BE AROUND TONIGHT TO DRAFT TO KEEP EVERYONE FROM GETTING UPSET AGAIN. I DON'T HOW HARD IT IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ONLY COMPUTER AND/OR INTERNET ACCESS I HAVE IS HERE AT WORK. I HAVE PLENTY OF PATIENCE WITH ALL OF YOU WHO ARE STILL IN SCHOOL AND CAN'T CHECK DURING THE DAY. JUST DO THE SAME.
120wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 12:29
Kbridges, 2 things
1) you posted 1 minute before i posted about the queue, i assume that you must have seen that.
2) Your feel sorry for me attitude isnt doing any good for the rest of us. We know you dont have web access from home, you have told us a million times. You probably shouldnt have signed into a draft if you knew you couldnt participate. I have stuck up for you all this week, but i make one comment about you not leaving a queue, which you should do every day, and you jump down my throat and tell me i need to stop assuming. I assume nothing, I know for a fact i asked you to leave a queue and you left. If you didnt see it then that is because you are rude and left in the middle of me talking to you. Either way, you were wrong.
121Nerfherders
      ID: 492431415
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 12:37
Ike you have anymore from THK's queue? His pick again.
122kbridges3
      ID: 42421511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 12:39
Believe what you will, I did not see your post until this morning. If you are all aware that I don't have a computer at home, then quit the bitching. I'm not trying to make anybody feel sorry for me, I'm simply stating facts. If the rest of the league wants to draft then draft. I'll say this one time: If everyone in the league wants me gone so bad because I can't meet each and every night to do a draft, then I'll leave if all of the other 9 managers vote that way. I have never guaranteed to be online except for Monday night, which I was here and then again tonight,which I will be here for that. On Tuesday and Wednesday night I said there may be a chance but I might not make it, too damn bad. So if you want to draft I'll be ready tonight or Tuesday night, otherwise quit bitching and lets play ball!!!
123the art of monk
      ID: 127392513
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 12:45
Kbridges difference between waiting for people during the day, it is usually 2-3 hours tops, you wait 12-15 hours, just a little difference.
124wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 12:59
Kbridges, i didnt bitch at all, i think i have been pretty dam good about this whole situation. I dont want you to leave, i just want you to leave a queue. You are the only one that refuses to leave one when you arent going to be here. Just try to be aware of that please.
125kbridges3
      ID: 42421511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:02
I know, I can't make a pick without a computer to do it with, I check right before I leave work and as soon as I get here in the mornings. I only guaranteed to be here on Monday, and I was. I only said I would try to be here on Tuesday and Wednesday, there is nothing I can do about that. I am again guaranteeing to be here tonight. If that is acceptable, fine, if not lets figure out what to do next. I can be here over the weekend also, just name a time. I really don't see why the argueing is continueing. Let's just forget about the last two nights, there is nothing that can be done about them now. I am making a commitment to do what it takes to get this thing done tonight, on the weekend or next tuesday night, if we all want to play ball then lets get it done, I never meant to make any of you mad with my schedule. I've done the best I can over the next few days to make myself available to all of you to finish this draft. I realize that all of you blame me for not having finished this yet, I don't agree with all of that blame but who cares, are we gonna bitch or play ball???
126kbridges3
      ID: 42421511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:05
wiggs, no problem. I have told art of monk and ap10 that I don't like leaving a que but to make everyone be quiet and enjoy the game, if there is a time when the draft will take place, I will leave a que. I hope this helps out. what about tonight? Can it be done or no?
127wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:09
kbridges, thank you. I am not asking you to leave a 10 man queue, just 1 or 2 so we can get about 10 more picks done a night. That way you dont have to worry about some one taking your guy. Is that what you are afraid of with leaving a queue? If so I understand because i left a long queue with someone when i couldnt be here on a weekend and the person stole my pick and it was obvious because they took Robert person and they took him way to early. That is why i dont like to leave queues either, but if you leave a small one, 1 or 2 men and you give it to someone on the other side of the draft you have nothing to worry about. Just my opinion.
128Ike44
      ID: 480341319
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:14
THK gave me a queue however i must wait now for him to come home and choose because of the orders he gave me.

thanks
129kbridges3
      ID: 42421511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:16
I gotcha, however like most of you I would prefer to be here to see what is going on and maybe between tonight and next Tuesday we can get it knocked out anyway.
130Art of Monk
      ID: 35226511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:26
I would rather not to the draft tonight due to me seeing MJ playing and have kbridges missing out on $100, Lets put it in stone now. Lets finish it next Tuesday. I will not be here but Rockerfellashank or whatever his name is can finish my team. It is not a huge deal. I agree with wiggs leaving a 1-3 man que is not a big deal. I still don't understand why leaving a que is so hard kbridges. I understand that you only have access during the day. Thk only left one que unfortunately but with the way the draft has been going how was he to know that he was going draft so soon again. Even when drafting, i believe managers we start double thinking ourselves. I'll bet I could have waited on a certain player for another rd. I will suggest again that I will switch picks with you kbridges for the rest of the draft if needed.

Beebop any interst in a trade for Cedeno, since everybody knows you wanted him. Maybe switch some picks.
131kbridges3
      ID: 42421511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:35
Enjoy MJ, it should be a treat, I've already lost the money, the booking agent already put another ump on the games, oh well. I will check the draft before I leave tonight but I will be online anyway. I will also check all day tomorrow and occasionally on Sat. and Sunday. If it looks like one of my picks may be coming up then I will leave a 1-2 man que with wiggs for that pick. I hope that helps everyone out a little. Art of Monk if you want to switch picks we can, its no big deal to me
132Ike44
      ID: 480341319
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:36
actually THK left a queue for 2 rounds but due to the circumstances we must wait until he comes home from school
133Art of Monk
      ID: 35226511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:40
Kbridges lets just see what happens later today and decide if we should switch picks. Sorry about the $100, but i was talking trash last night about seeing MJ. I will be around unil 7est. and I could leave a que for a couple of players. So I think we could do a lot tonight, if we get past thk pick.
134kbridges3
      ID: 42421511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:43
not your fault, no problem. I guess its the Jazz vs. the Wizards tonight, I have to pull for the Jazz.....
135Art of Monk
      ID: 35226511
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:49
Who took his other pick? I hope I did.
136APerfect10
      ID: 39143521
      Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:50
Thread is too long and full of complaints, therefore I am moving the discussion to The Perfect Keeper League - Discussion II
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