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Subject: The Perfect Keeper League - Discussion II
Posted by: APerfect10
- [39143521] Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:48
I was tired of all the BS in the other thread so I started a new thread. Things are getting so crazy I feel I need to intervene and get a few thing straightened away.
There will be NO LIVE draft tonight. The slow draft will continue therefore if you will not have computer access tonight, please leave a short queue.
Over the weekend, I expect the slow draft to move along rather smoothly. kbridges, I understand you do not have a computer at home, therefore it will be tough for you to check frequently (Every 4 hours approx) therefore I am willing to call you each time your pick is up. I could update you with who took what players, and everything. This will keep you from giving us a queue and will keep things moving very quickly. I am very trustworthy and most gurupies know me and know I am very respectful. Hopefully this would be ok with you. Please email me your phone # at home, and what times are ok to call.
If you are unwilling to email me your phone number, so I can contact you when it is your pick, then I would suggest swapping places in the draft with ART. Just let me know which suggestions works best for you.
Everyone :
As a rule of thumb, if you are online and you see the draft is gonna be at your spot soon and you will not be at your computer at that time. Please leave atleast a 2-3 man queue. I see no problems with this. If you leave that queue and each of those players are taken, I have no problem with the draft stopping until you can be online to make your pick.
Oh yeah, I started this new thread to avoid reading anymore bitching, so please stop. No explaining yourself, nothing. Stop. |
| 1 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 13:51
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ART, I took one of ThK's picks and you did also. Ike gave me ThK's queue after I made my selection because he was going to be in class.
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| 2 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 14:06
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ap10, I just emailed you the info requested, hope that helps
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| 3 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 14:17
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kbridges3, i just sent you an email and I forgot the most important thing! lol. The tuesday night draft is set in stone but I have a night exam until 10:30 pm EST and wiggs will not be available until 11, therefore the earliest we will start is 11 pm EST.
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| 4 | Art of Monk
ID: 35226511
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 14:19
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this looks good. I put my money on sabathia was thk other pick, if it was Cedeno, I might just give him so, we can continue.
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| 5 | wiggs
ID: 131122820
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 14:21
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Art, dont feel bad, if you didnt take CC i would have so he wouldnt have gotten him anyways.
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| 6 | Art of Monk
ID: 35226511
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 14:22
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I don't feel bad at all, I like screwing over thk, so what time does he get home from school again.
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| 7 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 14:33
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no worries
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| 8 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 14:37
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I notice he usually gets on around 3:00 EST? Or shortly there after.
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| 9 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 16:27
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Art-You like to screw me!?! ;-)
AP10-I am most disappointed about Floyd more than CC!!! I really wanted Floyd!
But I am most pissed about Izzy! I was going to grab Izzy if CC was gone! BUT NO! Bossman takes my guy...again.
I will pick shortly.
THK
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| 10 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 16:42
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NO Floyd, NO CC, NO Izzy!!! I hate you guys!
THK
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| 11 | wiggs
ID: 1911252811
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 17:33
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i am heading out for a while now. Wont be back til after 11. I will pick as soon as i get back. I cant leave a 20 player queue, sorry.
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| 12 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 17:46
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I'm leaving now also, I'll check back around 8
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| 13 | Art of Monk
ID: 35226511
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 18:29
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I think it would help if you put your timezone with time. Wiggs is est and kbridges is cst. I guess I will be picking sometime after wiggs probably closer to 10mst. If it even gets back to me.
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| 14 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 18:34
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EST
wiggs
Dan
Ike
AP10
CST
kbridges
ThK
MT
ART
Bossman
nerfsherder
Outback Time : 7 hrs behind EST
beebop
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| 15 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 18:59
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Bossman, you are the only player who has not joined the league. I emailed you the info, if you have lost it, could you please either email me or get it off ART. I am starting to put the drafted players on each team...
Thanks...
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| 16 | Art of Monk
ID: 35226511
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 19:02
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I sent you an email, ap10. I think I am out until about 12 est, but I left you my phone number.
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| 17 | Bossman
ID: 352431619
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 19:08
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Could you please e-mail me the info once again. I must have deleted it inadvertantly. gbradshaw@saff.utah.edu
Thanks,
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| 18 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 20:23
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I'm not sure when beebop is getting on. I think wiggs has his queue, but that does us no good considering he will not be on until 11pm EST.
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| 19 | beebop@school
ID: 32522120
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 21:03
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i just made mine from school. sorry i forgot to put pick numbers. be back home in 3 hours for a bit. ill send wiggs another que.
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| 20 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 21:07
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kbridges, i am estimating we get to your pick by 9:45 pm EST, so I would check back around 9:00 CST if you can....
Ike will be back within 15 minutes to make his pick, nerfs & Dan are both online and should be able to pick almos instantaneous.
Thanks.
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| 21 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 21:09
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I was thinking we should put it on the table who our favorite teams are. It could influence trading of course!
GO BRAVES!
THK
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| 22 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 21:13
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I'm a big O's fan, so I dont think It'll affect any of my trades, sadly enough...
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| 23 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 21:18
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LMAO @ AP10! Very true though!
THK
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| 24 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 21:34
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Ike is gone getting his butt kicked in basketball and should be back very soon. Nerf and Dan are both online ready to pick. Kbridges...your here? We can knock out the rest of this rnd tonight possibly.
THK
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| 25 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 22:07
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kbridges-
You here? Ike just got home...He will pick, then Nerf and Dan right in a row and you will be up again.
THK
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| 26 | kbridges3
ID: 302112122
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 22:14
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i just got here and I'm looking at the picks now
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| 27 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 22:15
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great man!
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| 28 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 22:17
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Dan is up and should be picking within minutes...
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| 29 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 22:23
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Dan picked...he tried to take my guy, but he isn't good enough.
THK
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| 30 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 22:27
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Bossman-Please tell me that you are here!?!
THK
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| 31 | kbridges3
ID: 302112122
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 22:57
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bossman-you suck, G. Anderson was my next pick
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| 32 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 22:58
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I am out...AP10 has my 1 man queue for my next pick. Good luck guys.
THK
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| 33 | kbridges3
ID: 302112122
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 23:13
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I am also out, ap10 has my one man que also...good luck
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| 34 | wiggs
ID: 1911252811
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 23:39
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is Art around? If so i will wait, if not, i am going to bed.
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| 35 | wiggs
ID: 1911252811
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 23:47
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ok, i am out of here for now, I will check back later or in the morning.
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| 36 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 23:56
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wiggs, ART said he would be on at 12 EST, so please hang around until 12:30! :) I would love to pick tonight...
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| 37 | the art of monk
ID: 127392513
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 00:12
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I hope I made it for wiggs, sorry took a little longer to get home and someone took thomas. so are we going to get stuck at kbridges again.
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| 38 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 00:59
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wiggs, wiggs, wiggs, if you would've stuck around another 10 min, we could've gotten through another 1/2 round of the draft. I guess you missed ART's post where he said he would be on at midnight EST. Oh well...picks will be made in the morning, i'm out.
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| 39 | wiggs
ID: 1911252811
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 01:12
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i am here again. Are people still around?
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| 40 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 08:03
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Guys-
I had a recent death in the family, and due to such problems I won't be back until Sunday around 1 CST. The next time I can check back is this afternoon after school, then I will be back on Sunday...or earlier. Sorry about the inconvience. I hope everyone can understand. We can still be there on Tuesday to get the biggest chunk of this draft done.
Try and get to me by this afternoon!
THK
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| 41 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 08:37
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We'll get to you by this afternoon, without a doubt, but could you atleast leave a small queue? Thanks...
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| 42 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 09:41
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art of monk, how was mj last night? I see he only got 11
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| 43 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 11:00
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kbridges, I emailed you my one man queue, so as soon as bossman picks, you can pick for me, then pick for yourself.
I will be back at 1:30 pm EST.
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| 44 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 11:11
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no problem
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| 45 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 12:13
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I got back early...what is the deal with Bossman?
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| 46 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 12:28
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???
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| 47 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 15:00
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Its amazing how we can knock out 2 rounds within 3 hrs then only get through 3 picks in 15 hrs...
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| 48 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 16:01
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I guess I got spoiled with the quick movement in one day, but this feels pretty darn slow...
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| 49 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 16:11
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ap10, I will be leaving work in about 2 hours, I won't be able to check again until in the morning, I will send you a 3-4 man que to get through tonight, let me know is this ok?
thanks
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| 50 | Nerfherders
ID: 492431415
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 16:13
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C'mon Dan. where are ya? Sleeping?
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| 51 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 16:15
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even im awake, and its before 9 on a saturday :)
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| 52 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 16:37
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kbridges3, that is good :)
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| 53 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 16:41
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I am leaving around 6 CST. I will leave a queue for my next two picks or at least I will try.
THK
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| 54 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 17:38
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Sorry to hear that THK.
Damn, this is going slow today.....
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| 55 | Nerfherders
ID: 492431415
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 17:49
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Grrr what gives? I was checking other drafts and Dan made his pick in another draft at 4:55!
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| 56 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 18:06
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Would he be at work??? Or maybe someone else picking for him, coz the ID number is different.
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| 57 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 18:49
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ap10, I'm leaving work now, I've emailed you my que for the next two picks, I'll check back in the morning and see where we stand.
thanks,
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| 58 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 20:18
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I hate these very long waits between picks. Anyone have any news on dan??? Is he awake at least???
Is the live draft on monday, or tuesday???
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| 59 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 20:41
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beebop, the live draft is Tuesday late night (here EST) therefore I would assume, it would be Wednesday afternoon/evening for you.
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| 60 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 20:47
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Thanx, i just couldnt remember....ill leave a que with someone before i leave for school, coz i have an excursion, so i wont be home as early as normal on wednesdays. I say more when i find out exactly when we finish....
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| 61 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 21:31
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Nerf!!! You stole my next pick!!!! lol :) oh well, guess ill be going bad at that position.
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| 62 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813
Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 22:07
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It's about time I gave someone the ol' shaft ;)
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| 63 | the art of monk
ID: 127392513
Sat, Mar 23, 2002, 01:29
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wow today was slow. In defense of bossman it was just one of those timezone things, we had a busy day starting at 8 and he didn't have a break unitl 11. I am just hoping to be able to pick half of my team. Rockafellershark we be taking over my draft since I won't be able to be around on Tuesday night. I will really not have much access starting sunday at 9ammst. I think the weather in so cal will keep me away from trying to find some how to get online. MJ looked old, but it was fun to go to the game especially when it was the right price.
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| 64 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Sat, Mar 23, 2002, 03:50
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ART, in your email to me, you mentioned you would rather have each teams roster rather than round by round analysis. In the picks thread, I have always had both. One of us must be confused...
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| 65 | the art of monk
ID: 127392513
Sat, Mar 23, 2002, 10:38
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ap10, don't worry both are fine, i was just suggesting we might not need the rd by rd log anymore, but it is not a big deal. SP are going like hotcakes.
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| 66 | wiggs@apartment
ID: 11032171
Sat, Mar 23, 2002, 10:58
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i am confused, did ap10 and bossman pick for other people ?
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| 67 | the art of monk
ID: 127392513
Sat, Mar 23, 2002, 11:29
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I am also confused. ap10 should have been nerfherders, then kbridges, then ap10 and bossman. You commish.
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| 68 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Sat, Mar 23, 2002, 12:28
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ART, Yes, I selected for nerfheders, only I forgot to mention it. Therefore Dan is up then kbridges3, myself, bossman...
Sorry...
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| 69 | the art of monk
ID: 127392513
Sat, Mar 23, 2002, 13:44
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do we have a que for thk? I will try and get in touch with bossman. Maybe you should delte his pick.
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| 70 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Sat, Mar 23, 2002, 15:03
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Does anyone have ThK's queue? In post #53, he says he will leave a queue, therefore I was assuming he emailed me. I just went to check my mail since his pick will be up shortly and nothing is there...
He did say I will *TRY*, hopefully he left a queue with someone.
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| 71 | wiggs@apartment
ID: 11032171
Sat, Mar 23, 2002, 15:35
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no thk queue with me
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| 72 | rockafellerskank
Sustainer
ID: 359283123
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 08:32
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the art of monk asked me to draft for him, but it looks like you guys are stuck at THK. Isn't he out of town for a while? If so, let me know when you expect to be active again.
rfs ®
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| 73 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 10:24
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The slow draft will recontinue at 4:00 CST today, when ThK returns home.
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| 74 | kbridges3
ID: 502292417
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 17:40
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ap10, I see it will be my pick soon after thk returns home, I will send you two additional picks to add to what is left of my que, that should last until I get to work in the morning.
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| 75 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 17:49
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I am back and going to pick shortly.
THK
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| 76 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 17:58
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This is unbelievable!!! We wouldn't pick for kbridges when he wasn't here. I had a planned absence for a very viable reason, and I come back to see I get a crappy guy I don't want just to move forward 4 picks? This is insane...my closer is niether Anderson or Graves and I am not taking either one with my pick. I can't even believe you would do this ap10! Why was it that important to go forward 4 picks and give me a guy you had no idea if I wanted or not!?!
THK
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| 77 | kbridges3
ID: 502292417
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 18:04
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ap10, I just emailed you my que for tonight
thanks
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| 78 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 18:25
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ThK, your situation and kbridges were totally different. You did have a planned absense, but you did not leave a queue with anyone. Kbridges didnt either. The difference is we knew kbridges would be selecting within the next 12 hrs and we knew you wouldnt be checking in until a full 24 hrs. That isnt the biggest reason we decided to select for you. The main reason was this. ART was leaving for an extended amount of time, starting Sunday. While he is having rfs pick for him, I felt it was only fair to let him get two more of 'his' picks before he left. Also, wiggs wouldnt be available until Monday therefore I felt the need to get his picks in also so we could complete, practically 2 more rounds, before he returned Monday. Yes we only moved 4 picks but more importantly we cleared the way to get two more rounds completed before Monday.
Secondly, you were one of the main people complaining that kbridges did not leave a queue. You left for 2.5 days and didnt leave a single pick with anyone which is a HUGE amount of time considering the time we have left.
If you are unhappy with your selection, which IMHO is very solid concerning your roster, I was generous enough to select a closer (when I didnt need one) so you could have the choice of either.
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| 79 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 18:28
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You were just online, and it is your turn to draft. Why havent you? We have waited all weekend on you, it would be very generous if you could draft ASAP, so we could move on.
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| 80 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 18:44
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Looks like THK is offline now.
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| 81 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 18:55
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This is BS! I can't believe you pulled this. I tried to leave a queue but you weren't "around". I am not drafting til this is cleared up. How does Art get priority over me? Us being both gone...he gets to pick and I don't?!? That is bull crap. You should have waited. I am not taking Graves or Anderson.
THK
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| 82 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 18:59
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ThK, how did you try to leave a queue? YOu have my AIM name and I am on 24/7. You have my email addy.
The only suggestion I have is, you drop Graves, and i'll give you a compensatory pick right now. Therefore you will have b2b picks. I am not willing to budge from that.
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| 83 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 19:02
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Damnit. I will take b2b picks now, but this is bull. Pettitte should be on the Notorious 9. I am getting screwed for 4 picks and 1 freaking day!
THK
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| 84 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 19:07
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How does Art get priority over me?
Art isnt getting priority over you. He is being generous and leaving rfs pick for him. Therefore he is already not going to be drafting 1/3 of his team. I felt it was fair, to make one selection for you and allow him to get 2 more picks. You have to also factor in wiggs not being around until Monday and the rest of the league.
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| 85 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 19:14
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Picks made...Bossman up.
THK
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| 86 | bossman
ID: 222551711
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 19:37
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Is it really my pick?
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| 87 | beebop@school
ID: 32142419
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 19:43
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I should be home from school in about 4 hours. If it gets to my pick before then, ap10 has my que.
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| 88 | rockafellerskank
Sustainer
ID: 359283123
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 20:11
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AP10>>>> my e-mail: rockafellerskank007@yahoo.com
rfs ®
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| 89 | rockafellerskank
Sustainer
ID: 359283123
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 20:42
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Since I have to pick for ART, I notice he doesn't have an OIF What the heck is an OIF in case i find a good one?
rfs ®
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| 90 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 20:46
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it should be CornerIF and MiddleIF...and you know what those are...
THK
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| 91 | rockafellerskank
Sustainer
ID: 359283123
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 20:54
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Oh, I played OIF in high school. Got it. rfs ®
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| 92 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 21:07
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I hate the word CIF, so i made my own word, Outer Infield. That is funny because I just changed OIF to CIF, in my spreadsheet, earlier this evening.
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| 93 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 21:18
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We are done drafting for the night after ThK picks. Wiggs is unable to be online until tomorrow.
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| 94 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 02:56
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Can you trade someone halfway through a contract? And if so, what happens to that contract, does it just disappear, or does it carry over to the new owner? And, can we make trades after the draft finishes, and before the season starts? or de have to wait for the season to start?
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| 95 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 10:09
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beebop, very good questions...
Can you trade someone halfway through a contract, and if so, what happens to that contract?
Yes, you can make a trade halfway through a contract. If you make a trade, the remaining contract remains in tact. The new owner may rework the players contract but all remaining contracts must be paid.
ie) You sign ARod to a 7 year deal
2002 - 5 contracts
2003 - 5 contracts
2004 - 7 contracts
2005 - 7 contracts
2006 - 7 contracts
2007 - 9 contracts
2008 - 9 contracts
If you decide to trade ARod during 2006, then the new owner would consume 7+9+9 = 25 contracts over a 3 year span. The new owner could rework the contract distributing those 25 contracts however they may like over the remaining 3 years.
Can we make trades after the draft finishes and before the season starts?
Yes, you may start trading as soon as the draft finishes. We may need to start the season without our complete 40 man roster, therefore you wouldnt be allowed to trade before the season starts.
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| 96 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 12:28
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let me get some feedback from some of you:
in another league I'm in, a keeper league, someone offered me Pedro Martinez for Tim Hudson straight up.....what do you think? should I do it or not?
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| 97 | Nerfherders
ID: 492431415
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 15:03
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That's a tough one Kbridges. Hudson is younger, Pedro is better, but much more fragile. He may never be the same as he was in 1998-2000. Pitching is always a crapshoot anyways. Guys peter out all the time.
One thing you have to look at is the contracts. If you will save money in the long run by taking Pedro, then do it. Otherwise, keep Hudson.
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| 98 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 16:01
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Most people have been giving me queues if they will be unavailable for more than 5 hrs. If you know you will be unable to draft for an extended period of time because of work, school or whatever, please leave a queue with me.
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| 99 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 17:18
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kbridges, it would be appreciated if you could leave a queue for tonight. Thanks!
The wait between picks is becoming extremely ridiculous. After the draft tomorrow night, I will be implement a clock on picks. Sorry, but this is absolutely pathetic!
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| 100 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 17:23
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I was hoping to get in my next pick before I left work, if not I will send you a que. no problem
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| 101 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 18:18
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AP10, I am emailing you my que for tonight now.
thanks
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| 102 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 21:15
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Reminder
Live Draft is being held tomorrow night at 11 pm EST.
New Rules Following Live Draft
Once the draft finishes, each person will be on a 2 hour clock to make a selection. If it has been two hours since the last person drafted, and you have not drafted your player or had someone make the selection for you, you will automatically be drafted a player. I've determined the best 'cheat sheet' to use to determine which player drafted is ESPN's Draft Tools - Average Picks. The 2 hour clock will run from 11 am EST - 1 am EST. If the two hours expires within that time frame, a player will be selected for you. If the last selection was at midnight (EST) you will not be required to draft until 1 pm EST, the next day (2 hrs after the days starting time).
Due to the holiday this weekend, I will be suspending the clock starting Saturday evening and lasting through Sunday night. If 8 or more people vote to leave the clock on, I will...
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| 103 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 21:19
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Is thk going to make his pick anytime today???
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| 104 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 21:25
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Exception
I will make ONE exception. If you leave a 5+ man queue for a 24 hour span, and at some point during that 24 hours, it is your pick and each of those 5 picks has already been selected, the draft will be halted for 6 additional hours. If you still have not selected after those 6 hrs, a pick will be made (according to the post above)
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| 105 | bossman
ID: 222551711
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 22:18
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Do we need to draft 9 pitchers of 10. I believe the earlier post indicated 9. However, on the draft recap there are spaces indicating 10. Also, I seem to recall that there was a mention of a DH. Yet, I don't see a slot for one on the aforementioned draft recap. Please advise.
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| 106 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 22:23
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bossman, everyone is pointing out my errors with my last post. I added the DH yesterday to my spreadsheet and there is a 9 pitcher minimum. I will post the updated info before the live draft tomorrow.
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| 107 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 22:24
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If you go to yahoo, on your team there are 9 pitcher slots and a utility spot (dh).
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| 108 | IKE44 in LIB
ID: 33292523
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 23:12
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this is crazy is THK going to draft or what...he was complaining earlier about kbridges not being around and now he isnt... START THE CLOCK DEREK!!
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| 109 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 23:54
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I think the clock is crazy and unfair. So wiggs or bossman pick at 12 EST, and I am at school...that is cheap. School is school and there is nothing you can do about that!!!?
Sorry about tonight guys...I forgot all about it, but I had a soccer gm in Cordell (i.e. 2 hrs away), so obviously I couldn't be here. Sorry...I have another gm (HOME)tom at 7 CST so I should still be here for the live draft.
BTW-I hate RFS/Art!!! I wanted Fick! :-(
THK
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| 110 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 00:49
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Depending on how much we get done during the live draft, the clock may be necessary. As long as you are around, or you leave a que with someone, you should be fine.
Also, i think that if we dont get the draft finished by the start of the season, as long as everyone has their 30 man roster it should be fine, and the rest of the prospects could be chosen after. Though this might be a little bit of a problem seeing as some have already been chosen...
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| 111 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 00:50
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ThK, a clock is very fair. There is no reason that a person can not leave a short queue. I'm fed up with waiting 12+ hrs for a person to pick. At that rate, we'll get done by the all star break.
Do you know what is unfair? I had to listen to you complain every other minute when kbridges wasnt picking, and he didnt leave a queue. You have held up the draft for the 3rd consecutive, much worse than kbridges ever has. Has he complained once? Why is this a double standard?
Do you know what is unfair? We are not going to be able to get the league done, therefore I am going to have to hand track/score the first week or so of the year. Why give me extra work, when we can go on a clock and speed things up?
Please, next time you complain about something, do me a favor, and put yourself in my shoes. Think outside of your mind, and think how others may feel, then comment. Think about the big picture, not just yourself. Thanks.
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| 112 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 00:52
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Correction.
We are not going to be able to get the draft done...
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| 113 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 00:55
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I have kbridges queue, but I am not going to pick, since Dan isnt online. I will let kbridges draft for himself in the morning. If Dan somehow isnt asleep and gets online, I will make the pick for kbridges to keep things moving.
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| 114 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 01:04
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Reminder
To be considered a prospect, the player must have...
Hitter
Less than 160 career AB's
Pitcher
Less than 50 career IP
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| 115 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 02:18
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Question: Does a prospect have to be on the Yahoo available players list? I suspect since they are not on the active roster they wont have to be.
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| 116 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 08:45
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Nerfs, you answered your own question, correctly :)
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| 117 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 11:38
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I just got to work. I made my pick.
I was checking the League settings yesterday and wondered about the 162 games/1250 innings cap that is set. Is that supposed to be set? I was under the impression that there was not going to be an innings cap. 1250 innings is standard for a 7-man pitching staff. It might be a little low for a 9 man staff.
Also, I would suggest as long as we get through round 25+ before the season starts, we keep our teams static until the draft is completed. In other words, we don't get the players we draft after the season starts until the draft is finished. This would probably only be for a week or so. Just some thoughts
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| 118 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 11:55
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nerfs, you are correct.
Batting Max will stay at 162 games.
Innings cap is low for a 9 man pitching staff. I am willing to change it if the league agrees.
I would suggest either 1600-1650 max IP.
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| 119 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 12:00
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1600 works for me. It would make rotations a bit more a part of the game.
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| 120 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 12:04
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I agree with nerfherders, 1600 makes the rotation come into to play a little more
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| 121 | wiggs@apartment
ID: 11032171
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 12:20
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1600 is cool with me too. AP10, i may have to be late tonight for the live draft. if that is the case i will send you a queue if that is cool with you. just let me know. I will definately be there tonight, just dont know what time.
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| 122 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 12:36
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wiggs, send a queue to my email address if you will be late. Hopefully I wont have to use your queue for more than 2 picks...
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| 123 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 12:53
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Bored at work. Check out these numbers
Time taken to draft the last 5 rounds:
Round 13 - 21 hours, 40 mins
14 - 18:16
15 - 28:35
16 - 16:56
17 - 22:03
107:30 - 4 days, 11 hours, 17 minutes
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| 124 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 12:57
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man, you must be even more bored than I am, and that's tough to beat
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| 125 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 13:03
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During those last 5 rounds, I have caused...
30 minutes of total delay. 30 min / 5 picks = 6 min delay per pick.
(30 min / 107 hrs 30 min ) * 100 = 0.465 % of the total delay! :)
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| 126 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 13:16
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using ap10's formula, surprisingly my part of the time deficit is only roughly 9%. I've had 614 minutes delay / 5 picks= roughly 2hours per pick. I would've thought my part would have been much higher. I would shudder to think about the first couple of rounds though....
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| 127 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 13:19
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Actually your # would be lower since you have been leaving a queue. A lot of the delay, when I post your picks is because I will only post your pick if it will advance the draft. If it will not advance the draft, I usually wait until you can pick.
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| 128 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 13:22
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even better
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| 129 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 13:33
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My delays have been 7, 4, 2, 3, and 4 minutes, and then because Dan picked at 6:47 am my time, I had the one delay of 2:41, ruining my average!
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| 130 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 15:36
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Ok, we just went through 4 picks within 11 minutes, now we'll be stuck until 11 pm EST tonight when the live draft starts. Watch!
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| 131 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 17:32
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I'm getting ready to leave work for the day. ap10 use what is left on my que for now until the live draft tonight. I will be back on between 10 and 10:30 pm CST to do the live draft, if I have any picks between now and then just use the que you have for me.
thanks
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| 132 | rockafellerskank
Sustainer
ID: 359283123
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 20:19
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I'm here. I'm online. I'm gonna kick a.....
;)
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| 133 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 21:33
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The live draft is still going though aim, isnt it???
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| 134 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 22:12
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Yes, the live draft will take via AIM (for those of us who have it) and the 2 people that do not have AIM, will be refreshing the draft page.
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| 135 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 01:02
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quick question on the prospects: If we do not sign them to contracts then does that mean that they become free agents at the end of the season and that they would be eligible for the draft next year, or do we keep them as prospects for however long?
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| 136 | rockafellerskank
Sustainer
ID: 59212279
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 10:16
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To All: I have filled in for ART as well as I could. However, I have a busy work schedule the next 2+ days and I will be at the Suns-Lakers game tonight. As the season approaches, I have to get my 13 other baseball teams in line and finish basketball. I won't have much time to look in on this draft between now and start of season. I'll try to help, but my initial offer to help was directed to Tuesaday night's draft. I hope this doesn't screw ART, but he didn't tell me when he was due back, soooo.......
Good luck to all.....
rfs ®
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| 137 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 10:26
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I will fill in for ART until he returns. His starting roster and bench are fairly set, which leaves drafting prospects! And you know what I love to do :)
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| 138 | wiggs@apartment
ID: 11032171
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:16
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i am getting off line for alittle while. i will check back in about an hour
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| 139 | art of monk
ID: 212272713
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:28
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i am around and make my picks now
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| 140 | art of monk
ID: 212272713
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:37
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anyone out there, this is tough without any list. I thought we would be done. It is hard to see who is still left.
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| 141 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:40
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art, who are you wondering about, players or positions?
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| 142 | art of monk
ID: 212272713
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:43
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are everett and salmon still around or washburn.
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| 143 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:46
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salmon and washburn are still out there, wiggs got everett
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| 144 | art of monk
ID: 212272713
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:47
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what about lawton, d. young and duckworth.
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| 145 | wiggs@apartment
ID: 11032171
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:54
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i got washburn too
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| 146 | wiggs@apartment
ID: 11032171
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:55
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art, i think all are gone
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| 147 | art of monk
ID: 212272713
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:55
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what about d young?
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| 148 | wiggs@apartment
ID: 11032171
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:57
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gone
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| 149 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:59
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Everett, Washburn, Lawton, Young have been taken.
I am unsure about Duckworth
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| 150 | art of monk
ID: 212272713
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 13:59
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i took salom and t. raines jr as a prospect
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| 151 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 14:00
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Bah I wanted Salmon :)
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| 152 | art of monk
ID: 212272713
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 14:01
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this sucks trying to pick without a list. ap10 call me and let me know when it is my pick again. I am on pst. I will check back in tommorrow and will look about getting on somewhere tonight. If not I will need somone to pick for me.
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| 153 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 14:28
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Bossman, could you give me ART's cell #. He gave me both his and your phone # but somehow I've lost them. Please email me them, thanks...
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| 154 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 15:00
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If its my go, and ive forgotten to leave a que, you guys can just do an autopick straight away. My team is basically up to the porspects, so it doesnt worry me too much who i end up with.
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| 155 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 15:14
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I took a look at this draft order page. It's only got 140 players on it and no prospects. Just about all the players on this list have already been taken
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| 156 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 15:14
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Oops sorry 240 players
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| 157 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 15:19
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Wow Alfonseca was traded to the Cubs. So much for Farnsworth getting any save opportunities. So now I wonder who closes for the Marlins?
Sidenote, Canseco released by Montreal. How could we not forsee this?
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| 158 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 16:19
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Nerfsheders, that is a problem. I may get rfs to send me rotowire's rankings. We'll see what can be done, but for the time being, I expect no one to run the clock out :)
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| 159 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 17:30
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anyone interested in Alfonseca for Farnsworth? :)
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| 160 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 18:33
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Was Ike's pick an autopick?
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| 161 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 18:38
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No...
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| 162 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 18:42
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ap10, I just emailed you my que for tonight.
thanks,
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| 163 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 19:55
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If we dont get this finished by the season starts, cant we just change it to retroactive stats???
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| 164 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 20:00
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We are going to get this finished before the season starts. I predit we will finish 4 rounds today. That leaves us with 8 rounds to go over 3 days. Shouldnt be a problem.
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| 165 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 21:36
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I felt the need to get all of the league rules so we dont have to sort through 30 different threads here in rotoguru. Also its more permanent, since threads are frequently deleted here.
Therefore, I got a website (which I intend to do a lot more with, once I have time). Please read over everything and post any questions or if you noticed I accidentally omitted something, please let me know. Thanks.
ThePerfectKeeperLeague.150m.com
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| 166 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 21:37
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Forgot to mention, I havent specified how the waiver wire will work yet. That will be determined before the draft is finished.
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| 167 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 23:22
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What is usually a reasonably good total for HR's, SB's etc. for a team in a yahoo 5x5 roto league? Just curious.
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| 168 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 12:37
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beebop Ive played in handfull of 5x5 leagues, but never with this many players active, so I couldnt hazard a guess. The only records I have from last year are for my head-to-head yahoo league (which is ALOT of fun, btw). I had roughly 300 HR's, 130 SB's, 95 wins, 60 saves. HR's and wins were above average, SB's were very good, and saves were pretty bad in that league. Remember that those teams had only 9 offensive and 7 pitching positions, though I was rotating starters quite a bit.
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| 169 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 12:41
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Question about the waiver rules: Do we take a transaction hit on releasing a player? Say if we wanted to have 2 for 1 trades, or are trading a pitcher for a hitter, we would need to be able to release players but not necesarily pick them up.
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| 170 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 13:02
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nerfs, I will get back to you on that.
Also, I've added the team by team analysis on the league webpage. Its not quite up to date yet, but I will get it up to date very soon, and will update it after every round, so I dont have to continue posting it here on rotoguru.
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| 171 | the art of Monk
ID: 10232813
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 13:12
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ap10 is my roster correct with mif and cif, doesn't one have to be a ss or 2b, if so I better get one. I think it would be better for you just to pick for me again today. I will check back in later, but once again I have limited access.
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| 172 | Nerfherders
ID: 12372518
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 17:00
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Another question: Will there be anything like an inactive roster for players who will be out for significant periods of time? I remember in previous years if a player was listed as 'DL' we had the option of putting him in a DL slot, instead of a Bench slot.
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| 173 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 17:37
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I am pretty sure that Yahoo gives each roster 1 DL spot...
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| 174 | APerfect10
ID: 39143521
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 18:19
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The webpage has updated rosters as of pick 32.7
ThePerfectKeeperLeague.150m.com
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| 175 | kbridges3
ID: 42421511
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 18:24
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ap10, I'm sending you que for tonight now
thanks,
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| 176 | the art of monk
ID: 502242820
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 21:00
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who's pick is it? I want ainsworth P and someone else.ap10 you can make the pick?
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| 177 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 21:03
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It's your pick Art so Ill put it in.
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| 178 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 21:04
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NO IT ISN'T!!!
IT IS MY PICK!
THK
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| 179 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813
Thu, Mar 28, 2002, 21:19
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Okay I put in Art's picks so it is Wiggs now.
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| 180 | beebop
ID: 471056717
Fri, Mar 29, 2002, 07:08
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How long have we been at this point in the draft??? I thought there was a 2 hour pick time limit.
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| 181 | APerfect10
ID: 3257215
Fri, Mar 29, 2002, 10:05
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There is a time cushion from 1am EST - 11am EST.
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| 182 | APerfect10
ID: 3257215
Fri, Mar 29, 2002, 10:41
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