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Game sites:     TSN Baseball     Swirve Baseball     Prog. Sports. Chall.     RotoHog     Sandbox     Yahoo! Baseball 0 Subject: Dirty Dozen Discussions 2007 Posted by: Khahan - [421171410] Sat, Jan 13, 2007, 14:46 Its time to start gearing up for 2007. We'll be handling the draft through Kafenatid again this year. For 2007 we are naming 6 keepers. They are due by January 31st. For 2008 we will be naming *7* keepers. Draft accordingly. In addition, Ryan, a.k.a. Great One, has agreed to collect the $10 entry fee from everybody. Check your email for his address. He sent it out to us all on Tuesday, Dec 19, so search that delete bin if you can't find it. All checks are due before the beginning of the regular season. 1 Tree       ID: 350521313       Sat, Jan 13, 2007, 15:17 still looking for some speed. Konerko, Chipper and Guillen are both on the trading block, as is any of my pitching. 2 Little Weasel       ID: 101133299       Mon, Jan 15, 2007, 12:21 Sorry Great One, can you re-send your address to me via email? chdr9@allstate.com 3 Great One       ID: 201155199       Mon, Jan 15, 2007, 12:42 Email resent. Also gonna post a "reciept" here and update periodically. 2007 Season Paid Great One Wiggs 4 barilko6       ID: 07191722       Mon, Jan 15, 2007, 21:32 TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT Wiggs gives: Carlos Beltran, 3rd Round Pick Barilko gives: Mariano Rivera, Michael Young, 8th Round pick. 5 Little Weasel       ID: 380381718       Wed, Jan 17, 2007, 19:42 I guess we're naming our Keepers in this thread? Until further notice: A Soriano, A Ramirez, D Jeter, J Pierre, B Abreu, B Fuentes 8 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Tue, Jan 23, 2007, 08:02 *Trade Alert* Khahan Sends Manny Ramirez and his 4th round pick to GO. GO sends Delmon Young, Chone Figgins and Victor Martinez and his last round pick to Khahan. 10 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Tue, Jan 23, 2007, 08:49 Trade Confirmed. 11 Tree       ID: 1411442914       Tue, Jan 23, 2007, 09:09 well damn, GO, don't even give me a second to breathe. lol. i actually had an offer i was going to send this morning, but alas, tis not to be... 12 barilko6       ID: 1025218       Tue, Jan 23, 2007, 09:17 Nice trade guys. Definitely helps out both teams. I hate it. 13 Tree       ID: 1411442914       Tue, Jan 23, 2007, 09:24 and. my search for speed continues. 14 barilko6       ID: 1025218       Tue, Jan 23, 2007, 09:28 Tree...you need to reply to offers even if you don't like them...lol I stopped sending them your way after the dead silence on my first two months ago. 15 wiggs       ID: 4101229       Tue, Jan 23, 2007, 09:35 i am still looking to make some deals. not that i have much to offer. 16 Tree       ID: 1411442914       Tue, Jan 23, 2007, 09:52 i usually reply barilko, with a telling someone i'm thinking about it. you sent me a trade offer? 17 barilko6       ID: 1025218       Tue, Jan 23, 2007, 10:34 Yeah, I sent you 2 way back in the day... No worries man, I just figured you weren't buying what I was selling...lol 18 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Tue, Jan 23, 2007, 15:45 Tree, do not despair. Any and all players on my roster are up for trade. Even if I just aquired them. If you are interested in Rollins or Figgins (my 2 main speedsters) or lesser guys with potential like Baldelli or Delmon Young just shoot me an offer. With Manny gone, I'm not married to any guy on my roster. 19 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Fri, Jan 26, 2007, 20:02 I'm willing to trade Jason Bay or Hideki Matsui for draft picks-thinking 1st round or so. Just shoot me an email. 20 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Sun, Jan 28, 2007, 10:10 I'm moving the keeper declaration date from Jan 31 to Feb 7. 21 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Mon, Jan 29, 2007, 11:15 2007 Paid Great One Wiggs Little Weasel Perm Dude 22 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Mon, Jan 29, 2007, 11:17 Got PD's payment for 2006 and 2007... think the only one on my list for 2006 missing was Astade. 24 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Mon, Jan 29, 2007, 14:40 Anyone want Chris Young? The awesome one who tore up the NL this year, not the rookie who hasn't done anything. 25 Da Bomb       Donor       ID: 487112814       Mon, Jan 29, 2007, 16:05 Gary Sheffield, Mark Prior, John Smoltz, Chad Cordero, Takashi Saito, and Cole Hamels are available for a draft pick. 26 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Jan 29, 2007, 16:23 Brandon Webb, Dan Uggla, Derrek Lee and Troy Glaus (SS eligible) all available for picks. 27 wiggs       ID: 55013307       Tue, Jan 30, 2007, 13:25 Wiggs gets: Jason Bay and Rev's 8th round pick Rev gets: Wiggs overall first round pick 28 wiggs       ID: 55013307       Tue, Jan 30, 2007, 13:35 Keepers Jason Bay Mo Rivera Michael Young Carlos Delgado Garrett Atkins Randy Johnson 29 Tree       ID: 550523014       Tue, Jan 30, 2007, 16:06 looking to move Paul Konerko or Carlos Guillen for some high draft picks or speed. 30 wiggs       ID: 60103021       Thu, Feb 01, 2007, 13:48 keepers were due last night werent they? 31 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Thu, Feb 01, 2007, 13:52 post 20 bumped them to 2/7 32 holt       ID: 590581711       Fri, Feb 02, 2007, 18:44 glad i checked in here. didn't realize keepers were almost due. were e-mails sent? if so, please use this e-mail I post here. I don't check my old one anymore. 33 Astade       ID: 57544126       Sat, Feb 03, 2007, 22:12 Astade's Keepers Miguel Cabrera Hanley Ramirez Mark Teixeira Jermaine Dye Jake Peavy Carlos Zambrano GO, can you please resend the email with your address and I'll send you payment for 06/07. Thanks! 34 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Sat, Feb 03, 2007, 23:34 I think this is Khahan's keeper list: Delmon Young Victor Martinez Jason Schmidt Chris Ray Jim Thome Jimmy Rollins 35 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 09:50 GO's Keepers Roy Halladay Jon Papelbon Ryan Howard Chase Utley Manny Ramirez Johnny Damon 36 Perm Dude       ID: 5013158       Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 10:07 Brad Lidge Eric Gagne Justin Verlander Ichiro Suzuki Pat Burrell Adrián González 37 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 12:56 Blue Hen's Keepers Travis Hafner Miguel Tejada Carl Crawford Adam Dunn Albert Pujols Joe Mauer Unless in the next two days someone wants Bonderman, Chris Young, Street, Jenks, and Rolen for somebody better than Mauer or Dunn. 38 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Wed, Feb 07, 2007, 08:20 Keepers as of this morning: Jo. Santana R. Oswalt G. Sizemore R. Zimmerman P. Fielder R. Weeks Of course this is subject to change before tonight's deadline 39 Tree       ID: 29082512       Wed, Feb 07, 2007, 11:41 last chance. looking to move the slugging prowess of Konerko for some speed. 40 Da Bomb       Donor       ID: 487112814       Wed, Feb 07, 2007, 18:47 Vladimir Guerrero Felix Hernandez David Ortiz Jose Reyes Alex Rodriguez John Smoltz 41 holt       ID: 590581711       Wed, Feb 07, 2007, 19:20 David Wright Chris Carpenter Matt Holliday Joe Nathan Andruw Jones Jered Weaver 42 holt       ID: 590581711       Wed, Feb 07, 2007, 19:27 available: T. Hoffman R. Sexson B. Hall T. Gordon É. Rentería M. Cameron N. Garciaparra if one of these guys is better than one of your keepers, I'll trade them for next to nothing. upgrade my lowest pick even by one round and it's a deal. 43 barilko6       ID: 3912867       Wed, Feb 07, 2007, 20:13 My Keepers for now: Carlos Beltran Francisco Rodriguez Lance Berkman Derrek Lee Brandon Webb Dan Uggla 44 Tree       ID: 1010718       Wed, Feb 07, 2007, 23:23 Carlos Lee Justin Morneau Vernon Wells Rafael Furcal Brian McCann John Lackey 45 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 07:56 Looks like we all got our keepers posted in time. Thanks all. I need time to set up the league on kafenatid, input any draft pick swaps and set our keepers. Sometime after that the draft will start. 46 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 08:22 Khahan...I only count 11 teams there...I think we are missing one? 47 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 08:25 I think we are missing Little Weasel? 48 Tree       ID: 29082512       Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 09:59 when are we starting our draft? 49 Da Bomb       Donor       ID: 487112814       Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 10:13 Barilko - post 5. 50 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 10:16 Little Weasel in post 5. 51 barilko6       ID: 3912867       Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 10:31 Dang he was fast... On a related note, I have a ton of extra picks in the first couple of rounds that I picked up through trades. Most of them are in the 2nd/3rd rounds. If you want to move down and acquire some extra picks let me know! 52 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Mon, Feb 12, 2007, 19:04 [insert smack talk here], you sonofabitches! 53 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 16:38 Greg Just a reminder I traded for wiggs first pick. Rev 54 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 16:59 Is it possible to post a draft chart with the updated draft pick trades? I know I have 5 early picks that I acquired... I would help compile it, just don't know how to post it on here... 55 wiggs       ID: 60103021       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 17:08 crap, i picked already thinking it was actually my pick. I am sorry. Is there a way to switch it? 56 wiggs       ID: 60103021       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 17:09 that could come back to get me. I was psyched to see all my options. 57 wiggs       ID: 60103021       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 17:15 some reason now it is showing my pick on GOs team. I am really sorry about this mess up I saw it was my turn and I picked without thinking. 58 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 17:17 Yeah the kafenatid chart seems a little messed up...we need to stop all picks until we can get it straightened out. 59 Perm Dude       ID: 50134197       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 17:19 Hmmm. Just picked myself without really looking at the number, and it shows it as being a traded pick from Da Bomb. I don't think that DB and I made a trade for his pick 1.02. Rev, can you pause the draft while we sort this out? 60 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 17:23 I am on the clock. I am not going to pick until the mess gets straightened out. The players being picked are going to those on the top of the draft order on Kafenatid, and Wiggs' pick needs to be deleted. I will wait to pick. 61 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 17:27 Actually Khahan is managing this draft {I've got gurukeepers}. The draft order still seems to be backwards. Greg probably needs to contact Fred and see how he can get the draft order reversed. 62 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 17:27 Guys, I screwed up and entered all managers in order of finish instead of reverse order of finish. To correct the problem, I simply traded all picks. Its gonna be a bit of pain, but OTC software shows the players where they should have been taken but puts them where they belong (in other words, it shows Wiggs pick in the spot it should have been taken...GO's, but it actually puts wiggs pick onto his team). On another note, there was a trade for the first overall pick that I missed. Correcting that now and we're good to go. 63 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 17:31 All draft picks made (picks 1-3) were deleted. The trade between Wiggs and Rev was added. Rev is now on the clock, then PD, then me. 64 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 17:33 Hey Khahan...is it possible to put together a draft chart listing the traded picks? (If you have one already made, that would be great) If you don't have the time, I could put it together if you want, someone will just have to teach me how to post it. 65 wiggs       ID: 60103021       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 18:05 are all those picks that are entered now correct. it is showing like 4 picks done. 66 Tree       ID: 31201917       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 18:21 you also have Francisco Rodriguez (2.09) listed as an SP. he's an RP. so - can i pick now? i'm pretty confused. 67 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 18:28 Yep...you are up tree 68 Little Weasel       ID: 561571813       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 18:39 Damn, I didn't even know we started the draft... guess I missed something?? And here I am with Konerko? 69 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 18:45 Midget....read post 62, would you? 70 Astade@work       ID: 401261918       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 19:31 Hey guys, I didn't realize the draft would start today. I have work all day (and class in the evening)...To make matters worse, I thought Barilko had my 1st rd pick (actually 2nd rd pick)....so I will have to pick late PST tonight. Sorry, for the delay. After this rd, I will be sure to use a queue during the work week 71 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 20:14 No worries astade. the draft has not officially started yet. The clock does not run until next monday. 72 blue hen       ID: 180152223       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 20:49 I'm confused. Why is Renteria under my team? Where do I actually get to pick? 73 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 21:13 With the exception of traded picks: Khahan and Little Weasle swapped places. Great One and Wiggs swapped places Perm Dude and Da Bomb swapped places Barilko and Holt swapped places Rev and Blue Hen swapped places Astade and Tree swapped places. This means that my normal, non-trade picks are showing up under Little Weasle's and his picks are showing up under mine. Great Ones picks are showing up under Wiggs and Wiggs are showing up under Great Ones. Hopefully you can discern the rest. The only real tricky part is picks that were traded. Wiggs round 1 to Rev Revs Round 8 to Wiggs Khahans R9 to Blue Hen Blue Hens R3 to Khahan Rev R2 to GO GO R6 to Rev Astade R2 to Barilko Barilko R17 to Astade Barilko R10 to Holt Holt R2 to Barilko Barilko R6, R16 to GO GO R3, R5 to Barilko GO R16 to Khahan Khahan R4 to GO Tree R3 to Khahan Khahan R17 to Tree 74 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 21:28 I also get Wiggs 3rd round pick, and he gets my 8th round pick as stated in post 4. 75 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 21:29 This is incorrect: Rev R2 to GO GO R6 to Rev It is Just the opposite; Rev GETS GO's 2nd round pick Go gets Rev's 6th round pick 76 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 21:32 Right. Its already in the system at kafenatid. 77 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 21:35 Thanks Khahan 78 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 21:44 75: Rev - it looks correct in the system on Kafenatid. In the system they are listed opposite of how we do it (and we have to subtract for keeper rounds). So your trade w/ GO in the system is listed as: rev: 8.12 GO: 11.05 Subtract 6 from both numbers and that is the person and they pick they received. 79 Great One       ID: 201155199       Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 23:05 Is there any way to straighten all this out short of starting everything over? Have we talked to KKB about it? 80 Da Bomb       Donor       ID: 487112814       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 02:38 If there is a lot of confusion, maybe we could start it all over? Don't know how much more work that would entail for Khahan though. Personally, however, I am not not ready at all, as I didn't know the draft would be started this soon, and need a couple days to prepare. 81 Astade       ID: 57544126       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 02:50 Just picked. I don't have a 2nd rd pick (due to a trade last year). If anyone is looking to move down in the draft, shoot me an email to trade picks. 82 Little Weasel       ID: 161141920       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 06:17 re Post 80: I wouldn't be opposed to starting all over either, and like Da Bomb I am not (was not) prepared for drafting to begin yesterday... But if it's too much work for Khahan then we'll just have to roll with the punches... 83 Tree       ID: 35137205       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 06:39 khanan - is this reversal thing going to be the entire draft? if so, i say we put it on hold, contact KKB, and see if he can fix it. 84 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 07:16 re:78 I was just going by what was written in post 73 which is written the opposite of how you explained it in post 78. No problem just wanted to make sure I had the right draft pick. As far as correcting the draft sequence, if I remember correctly from when I entered the information for another draft, once the order was set you could not correct it. I have no problem with starting over{with khahan plugging in the picks made up to this moment}, but it would be a lot of work for khahan. Thanks for your work Khahan, I know its not easy plugging in all the keepers and getting the draft set up. 85 holt       ID: 590581711       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 08:23 i guess i'm really confused here. didn't realize we were starting this soon, but I can deal with that. the draft stuff @ kafenatid is really confusing me. 7.04 Billy Wagner RP NYM barilko6 holt did I trade my 1st rd pick? I have no idea. but even if I did, I shouldn't be drafting 4th. very confused. 86 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 08:37 Everybody that is still confused about the draft, read post 73. Very simply, if you have not actually gone in and made a pick, then you have drafted anybody yet, despite what the kafenatid site says. Sorry for the confusion. It was due to my mistake entering the pick sequence backwards. Once again, I traded everybody's picks so we will actually pick in order. However, kafenatid will show the player drafted in the spot they were drafted (round 1..err round 7 actually because of 6 keepers) pick will be shown in that slot. But that slot is shown as Great One's on the website. If you click on the 'show all picks' link, it will show you that spot was traded to Rev. (it was actually traded to Wiggs to adjust my mistake and then traded to Rev). Round 7 (actually our first round) pick 2 is showing as Da Bomb, but it was actually made by Perm Dude and the player picked is on perm dudes team. This follows through the whole draft. PLease see post 73. 87 holt       ID: 590581711       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 08:55 so who made this pick then? barilko, or someone else? was it my pick? 7.04 Billy Wagner RP NYM barilko6 holt can't we just get this fixed? 88 barilko6       ID: 54154167       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 09:00 I made that pick...the draft is going in reverse order... 89 barilko6       ID: 54154167       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 11:10 Should the draft still be paused? 90 Little Weasel       ID: 101133299       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 11:56 I spoke with Khahan this morning... unfortunately he's working (the nerve of him!) and will not have any access to his fantasy stuff during the day. From the sounds of things, we're going to continue the draft in this format... 91 barilko6       ID: 54154167       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 11:59 Has the draft officially started, or is this just the appetizer part? 92 Astade       ID: 57544126       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 12:40 see post 71 93 Little Weasel       ID: 101133299       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 12:58 We're drafting "off the clock" at this point... at least until Monday anyway. Right now, it's Holt's pick... correct? 94 barilko6       ID: 54154167       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 13:28 Ahh...ok, thanks! 95 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 16:45 Holt, we cannot fix it. It is what it is at this point. It is your pick. The clock is not running so you do not have to make a pick if you need time to prepare your sheets. However, come monday when the clock is running, it will work this way. You will get an email notifying you it is your pick. You make your pick. The draft moves on. Your pick will show up under somebody elses name, but it is still your pick. 96 Tree       ID: 29082512       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 16:50 Khahan - did you ask KKB if *he* could fix it? 97 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 16:53 But then isn't it hard to see your own team? 98 Perm Dude       ID: 51542012       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 16:56 click on your team name and you should get the correct roster. You'll also get the right info if you click on Draft Grid. 99 barilko6       ID: 54154167       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 16:58 Yeah, Khahan, I don't think its that big of an issue. Still tracks your picks on the "View All Picks" list. Thanks for setting things up. 100 Great One       ID: 201155199       Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 17:22 2007 Paid Great One Wiggs Little Weasel Perm Dude Astade 101 holt       ID: 590581711       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 00:33 we are in such a hurry that we can't allow time for KKB to reset the draft? why pay 10 bucks to use a draft tool and then have it rigged like this? 102 holt       ID: 590581711       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 00:47 if the issue is the time it takes to re-enter the keepers into the draft, I'm sure any number of us in the league would volunteer to do it. it would only take a few minutes. right now it seems that the only accurate way to see who picked who is by looking at the draft grid. 19 rounds of this is going to be unpleasant. for one thing, I'm looking at our draft right now and I really can't tell who is picking after me or when my next pick is coming. 103 Astade       ID: 57544126       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 01:54 Holt Instead of whining and contemplating taking the extra time to re-enter the picks, how about spending that time researching the 2007 season and make your pick?! ;) Khahan btw, I'd be happy to help with this kafenatid bungle...just let me know. and you might want to lay off the bottle the next time you have commissioner duties ;) 104 holt       ID: 590581711       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 03:22 well, I know it may seem that I'm whining, but damn. if I was commish I'd just fix it. it's a frickin mess. 105 Tree       ID: 49121215       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 06:31 i agree with Holt. i realize it's been explained. it doesn't make it look any less confusing. i look at my roster, and it says "traded" and all that. same thing with the grid. the grid - which i think is an important tool - is going to look gigantic, because it will be double the size... 106 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 06:39 sorry guys. I've got 3 three kids at home so my evenings are shot and weekends are shot. I no longer work from home and my current employer does not allow access to the internet so my daytimes are shot. This leaves about 2 hours a day between when my kids go to bed and when I go to bed. I don't have the time that I've had in years past. I'll email KKB and see if there is anything he can do to reset this, but if not, we're stuck. It was my mistake, and I'm sorry for the mess. I've done what I can to keep things working properly. If KKB can't do anything else about it, we'll all have to make due. The clock still starts Monday. 107 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 06:44 Also, while we are at it, there are still 3 of you who have not registered at yahoo. Please do so quickly. 108 holt       ID: 590581711       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 08:50 i'm working on my spread sheet right now. sorry if anyone is waiting. 109 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 09:44 Khahan, I think what some were saying is that if kaftenatid can't fix it, we could just scrap this screwed up draft and they could re-input everything so we could start over. We understand you don't have the time to do everything over. I could have done it earlier in the week, but I am heading in for LASIK in the morning and won't be able to get much done the next few days. 110 Little Weasel       ID: 191162116       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 19:24 ... so... did the draft get scrapped? 111 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 20:48 Guys, we are now underway. The draft has begun. The clock starts Monday at 8am as scheduled. Blue Hen is on the clock. Tree and Blue Hen, you are drafting in your normal places, ignore what the draft says (and please don't ask). 112 Tree       ID: 431292118       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 20:59 (and please don't ask). 1. can we ask if you asked KKB if he could fix the problem? 2. can i ask why JJ Putz is on my team suddenly, when i didn't draft him? 114 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 21:11 2. Tree, I had you drafting him before the fix got done. I inputted all picks that were made up until the point that KKB wiped everything so I could start over. Those picks stand. They were made in good faith. Did you not have JJ Putz before? If so, then who drafted him before the wipe? 115 Tree       ID: 431292118       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 21:35 i think it was part of the whole trading of draft picks. i took Huston Street. i think astade took Putz. that would make sense, since we were consecutive in the draft.... 116 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 21:44 ok, that's changed and we move on. :) 117 Little Weasel       ID: 191162116       Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 21:45 Cheers! Up the irons! 118 Tree       ID: 29082512       Thu, Feb 22, 2007, 10:44 and now. we're stopped! LOL 119 Little Weasel       ID: 101133299       Thu, Feb 22, 2007, 11:11 You gotta love the Khahan. Total snafu in setting it up... then manages to get it fixed... but forgets to restart it! Great stuff. Greg, we'll cut you a break today because it's your birthday. But as soon as you restart this thing you'd better start drinking-- heavily! LOL! Have a good one, enjoy... 120 Great One       ID: 201155199       Thu, Feb 22, 2007, 11:12 I can't get in and turn my que on either and I gotta leave soon (and will be out of commission) til tomorrow. Leaving at noon today. 121 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Thu, Feb 22, 2007, 11:56 Guys don't forget that the draft does not officially begin until Monday, and Khahan has done a great job getting the original mess straightened up. So sit back play with your draft sheets, and be ready to run on Monday. Rev 122 Great One       ID: 201155199       Fri, Feb 23, 2007, 18:05 All that fuss and nobody is picking anyway? Mr. Hen? 123 blue hen       ID: 180152223       Fri, Feb 23, 2007, 20:50 I kept waiting for the email that I was on the clock. It never came. I picked now, and I'll try to be better about it. 124 holt       ID: 590581711       Fri, Feb 23, 2007, 22:10 wtf? i drafted hoffman twice already, now someone else has him? you guys could at least have the decency to stick with your initial picks. 125 holt       ID: 590581711       Fri, Feb 23, 2007, 22:13 if my picking him earlier helped you make the decision, you're welcome. if you want any more draft help just e-mail me and I'll see what I can do. 126 wiggs       ID: 60103021       Fri, Feb 23, 2007, 22:43 i agree with you holt 127 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Fri, Feb 23, 2007, 22:53 was your pick made in order before holt? 128 holt       ID: 590581711       Fri, Feb 23, 2007, 22:57 it was the first time. i know bh was skipped the 2nd time but I assumed we were all just re-entering the same players we took the first time around. 129 holt       ID: 590581711       Fri, Feb 23, 2007, 23:00 well - I gotta go out for a couple hours. I don't have a different player in mind yet and I need to adjust my spreadsheet. 131 Khahan       ID: 80111523       Fri, Feb 23, 2007, 23:04 Since there wasn't a clock to begin with, BH should not have technically been skipped. This draft, so far, has been pretty typical of my week. At least the week and round 1 are both almost over. 132 holt       ID: 590581711       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 05:20 well, he wasn't skipped the first time we picked. if people want to change their picks that's ok. I understand that their first choice may have been sub-optimal. 133 Little Weasel       ID: 571512221       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 08:58 Little help please? I set up my queue in Kafenatid... will the system automatically pick for me based on the rank I have in there, or do I have to assign a few of you guys as "designated pickers" in order to make the selection? If it's the latter, I don't know how to make the assignment... 134 Little Weasel       ID: 571512221       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 08:59 Check that. I found it. 135 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 09:01 The site won't auto pick from your que while the clock is not running. As for the picks, what the heck is up with all the closers? 10 picks so far in round 1 and 7 of them are closers? God I hate closer runs. 136 Little Weasel       ID: 571512221       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 09:05 I will be around today until noon, but then will be out of commission until tomorrow afternoon. I dumped a bunch of you guys as designated pickers. If it gets back to me by noon, I will make my own pick and then make the queue available thereafter for you guys... 137 Perm Dude       ID: 31112247       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 09:08 I'll be around after about noon. 138 Great One       ID: 201155199       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 09:09 Does it pick automatically for you if you leave a que? That would be awesome and would really speed things along, but I don't think it does that. I think it still forces your designated picker to submit the name it provides from your list. I check this thing more than anyone (read: GO has tons of free time! :) so if anyone wants to designate me a picker I will certainly keep this thing moving. I know Khahan now has limited access as well. 139 Great One       ID: 201155199       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 09:09 And I hate closers too! 140 Perm Dude       ID: 31112247       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 09:10 It doesn't auto pick, but if you make your queue "available" then your designated pickers can take the top guy available from your list. And the Admin is always a designated picker as well. 141 Perm Dude       ID: 31112247       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 09:12 Actually, I should correct that: It'll auto pick your top guy at the end of your time-out period, I believe. 142 Great One       ID: 201155199       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 09:14 See, I don't see the logic there - if thats the guy you have que'd up - thats who you want... why make everyone wait if your designated picker happens to not be around. 143 Perm Dude       ID: 31112247       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 09:21 Most guys don't care, and will make everyone their designated picker. That way no one waits. But the queue is also used just to keep guys in mind, not necessarily for a picking order. 144 Great One       ID: 201155199       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 09:25 I could see that, make a que for your own reference but make it unavailable. I've done that previously. PD - check your email. 145 Perm Dude       ID: 31112247       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 09:33 I'll be out until about noon EST. 146 Little Weasel       ID: 571512221       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 10:55 Alright fellas, I'm out for the day. Queue is activated... but I only have enough players for my next pick (8th Rd- SP- five pitchers in the queue). Every one of you is a Designated Picker. If by chance it comes all the way back around to me in the 9th Rd, please don't make my 9th Rd selection, I'll do it Sunday afternoon EST. Thanks. 147 blue hen       ID: 180152223       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 11:24 Re: 124 If you want him, I'm fine with switching it up. But given that I kept six hitters, it's reasonable that I'd draft a pitcher with my first pick. If my first pick was really supposed to count, then I'm a little unsure why we're picking again. I'm also having trouble visualizing this draft. Is there a way to see which picks have been traded, and exactly when I am picking next? 148 wiggs       ID: 60103021       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 11:27 i dont think you have to worry about us getting through 2 more rounds today, we havent finished 1 in 6 days 149 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Sat, Feb 24, 2007, 11:34 Blue Hen, there is a link, "View all picks" Click on that and it tells you. I have not found a link yet that shows you when your picks are. But basically you pick in trees spot and tree picks in your spot if you want to look ahead. As for knowing when its actually time to pick, its not a big deal because the system emails you. 150 Astade       ID: 57544126       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 14:44 Still looking to trade up for a Rd 2/3 pick. Email me if you are interested. 151 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 16:08 I currently own: 3 second round picks (Holt's, Astade's and my own) 3 more third round picks (Wiggs', Great One's, and my own) Willing to listen to any type of package to move up or down. 152 Astade@work       ID: 401261918       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 17:07 barilko, sent you an email... 153 Astade@work       ID: 401261918       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 17:25 Barilko trades: Round 2 pick 7 (Originally Astade's) Round 5 pick 12 (Originally GO's) Astade trades: Round 3 pick 7 Round 4 pick 7 154 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 17:28 Agreed. 155 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 18:17 inputted 156 Great One       ID: 201155199       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 18:59 Is there a chart somewhere that shows where we are picking each round? 157 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 19:02 Wait. This isn't a snake draft, is it? 158 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 19:10 No BH, straight draft, worst to first. 159 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 19:17 Interesting. Not that it affects me until next year when I pick last in every round. Can someone remind me the positions again? I couldn't find it posted. 160 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 19:26 Its at the Yahoo page. C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, I'll send you an email again with the login info. Please get your team registered. We still have 2 teams outstanding. 161 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 19:37 I thought I was already in. Turns out I was wrong. I got it now. 162 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 19:58 re 159, Although not entirely impossible, I would find it very unlikely that I end up trading every single one of my picks to you Dave. 163 Great One       ID: 201155199       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 20:08 boys boys boys... The Champ is HERE. 164 Astade@work       ID: 401261918       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 21:04 Is DaBomb leaving anyone a queue? He timed out on his last pick and he's another hour into this one... we made some good progress today! 165 Tree       ID: 371522617       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 23:12 i hate when the clock times out on someone who was taking all night to pick anyway.... 166 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 23:41 astade, please register your team at yahoo. 167 Astade       ID: 57544126       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 02:16 Thanks for the reminder Khahan, that email slipped through the cracks... Surprised there aren't more trades being announced. Perhaps people are still working out deals? 168 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 06:23 In that I have GO's 2nd round pick, I have my queue set-up, and should be good for the day. On DaBomb-I had no problem waiting yesterday morning, but now a second chunk of time yesterday was lost--if it would be beneficial could someone give him their cell number and allow the flow of the draft to continue? I guess I want to make sure I'm not simply complaining but also trying to help find a solution. 169 Tree       ID: 44130275       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 06:32 i'm with Rev. i realize we have all the time in the world, but delays in drafting just make it less fun. if he's having computer problems, then we need to go to a plan B. since he emailed us, his email access must be working... 170 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 06:49 I have no problem with that. He needs to let his designated picker know who to take. If he has no dp's, we need to find out who he wants and post that players name. Consider that player drafted and when I get back I can plug him into kafenatid for Da Bomb. 171 Tree       ID: 29082512       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 11:55 so who's picking now? Khahan? Blue Hen? the site says both... :o) 172 Tree       ID: 29082512       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 12:23 i am completely confused. do i not get a pick this round? what happened in this trade? 173 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 13:49 Is OTC not sending out an email notifying you your on the clock this year? 174 barilko       ID: 391342117       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 13:50 Tree...as per post 73, your 3rd rounder went to Khahan. 175 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 14:32 I didn't get a pick in this round. Does that mean I get two in some upcoming round? 176 Tree       ID: 29082512       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 14:35 looks like yours also went to Khahan. damn. this is so confusing... 177 barilko       ID: 391342117       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 14:48 all the pick trades are listed in post 73. Read there and you will see where your second pick is coming from. 178 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 14:51 For those who missed it... Wiggs round 1 to Rev Revs Round 8 to Wiggs Khahans R9 to Blue Hen Blue Hens R3 to Khahan GO R2 to REV REV R6 to GO Astade R2 to Barilko Barilko R17 to Astade Barilko R10 to Holt Holt R2 to Barilko Barilko R6, R16 to GO GO R3, R5 to Barilko GO R16 to Khahan Khahan R4 to GO Tree R3 to Khahan Khahan R17 to Tree 179 barilko       ID: 391342117       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 14:52 I posted that in post 174, but the guys were still confused...lol 180 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 15:04 Oh so in 6 rounds I get an extra pick. Interesting. I hope that's what got him Pujols. 181 Tree       ID: 29082512       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 15:28 it could be worse BH. in 14 rounds, i get an extra book. i wonder who on earth i netted to give up a third round pick... 182 barilko       ID: 391342117       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 15:30 I can't remember who I all gave up, but I am liking all these extra 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounders I have lined up... Hopefully the depth helps make up for some of those stacked keeper sheets other teams have. 183 Great One       ID: 511142715       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 16:16 You sold Clemens to me for the stretch run, I remember that one... 184 Great One       ID: 511142715       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 16:18 Still looking for 7 more people (10 each). Email if you don't have the address still. 2007 Paid Great One Wiggs Little Weasel Perm Dude Astade 185 Tree       ID: 29082512       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 16:18 man. i am so screwed. 186 barilko       ID: 391342117       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 16:46 Right...I was getting pissed off at Clemens for saying he was coming back, but now I am ok with the picks I got for him. 187 barilko       ID: 391342117       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 17:07 I have two picks this round, and would be willing to trade down. If someone wants to move up to this round, I have the 4th pick and the 7th pick available. Make me an offer. 188 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 21:49 I am coaching a Grade 8 basketball team all day tomorrow. Is there anyone who would be willing to help me out with text messages and then receiving a call from me when I am on the clock? Send me an email if you can help out... Thanks 189 Perm Dude       ID: 4117289       Wed, Feb 28, 2007, 11:16 Very tough pick for me this round. Here's hoping Maddux continues his form in a pitcher-friendly park! 190 Tree       ID: 29082512       Wed, Feb 28, 2007, 11:21 didn't khahan say he didn't have access during the day? anyway to reach out to him? 191 wiggs       ID: 41152287       Wed, Feb 28, 2007, 13:14 i have barilkos pick, but i am not listed as a dp, is anyone a DP, if so he wants Dan Haren. 192 barilko       ID: 391342117       Wed, Feb 28, 2007, 16:34 Huge apologies guys. I had everything all set up and then I forget to go and make Wiggs my DP. A huge sorry to all. 193 barilko       ID: 391342117       Wed, Feb 28, 2007, 16:50 dang I had a choice between Haren and Willy Taveras. Was hoping Willie would drop to next round, didn't think Haren would. 194 Tree       ID: 29082512       Wed, Feb 28, 2007, 17:05 the fact Tavares made it to the 11th round amazes me. i snagged him fast! my need for speed! 195 barilko       ID: 391342117       Wed, Feb 28, 2007, 17:10 Yeah...my team is now pretty much filled, with the need for a couple of bench guys. It looks great, but a Willy would have been nice. 196 Astade@work       ID: 401261918       Wed, Feb 28, 2007, 22:48 I'm surprised Swisher lasted this long... Was it his AVG that scared people off? Or perhaps the weak Oakland lineup? I swear there is some sort of jinx on our draft where it ends up that someone has to use the 4-hr max over night. ;) 197 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 09:07 Crap, I kind of didn't really want Pettite right here. I am ok with it, I just didn't have my que sorted right... but if anyone in the next 5 picks or so would like Pettite let me know, I'd swap him out for your pick. 198 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 09:53 I have a passing interest in Pettitte, but I'd have to move up elsewhere. Underhanded, I know, but if you're interested, shoot me an email. 199 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 09:55 Not moving down twice essentially, that would be pretty dumb of me, wouldn't it? 200 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 11:53 Well, you get the guy you want here. If it wasn't Pettitte, you're not really moving down much. 201 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 12:01 There's blue hen taking Mark Prior. Had him on all 3 of my RIBC teams so far. Hope he does well - might be a keeper next year. Can someone tell me why all of my picks are reversed with Tree's? It's really hard to read the pages telling me who is on my team. No matter - I'll still win. 202 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 12:04 i have had an issue with taking prior in all my leagues in the past as well. I told myself I would not do it this year. You are probably set up nicely now. He will have a monster year. 203 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 12:19 Well, it's a late pick, so the downside is different than it was in RIBC 2004 where he was the 6th overall pick. And even though I waited a long time to get a starting pitcher, I have a nice core with Prior and Harang. Plus a great lineup and two solid closers, so I'm sitting pretty right now. Of course, there are a bunch more rounds to go. 204 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 13:13 I bet my entry fee Prior doesn't win 12 games this year. Any takers? Thats a reasonable over/under to a good season, right? 205 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 13:36 Only if you consider wins to be the most important measure of performance. 206 Perm Dude       ID: 15225112       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 13:48 We don't track DL days, hen. And if you think this is "late" then are you going to be taking retired guys the last round or two? 207 barilko       ID: 391342117       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 13:56 Pretty sure that wins give a good measure of performance, especially in fantasy. I would hate to have a starting pitcher give me only 4 decent innings and never get me a win because he's always too hurt to answer the bell in the fifth. Then I might as well just get a couple of middle relievers and hope for some vulturing. That being said, I don't think Prior is a bad pick at this point in the draft. Late enough to give good reward for the risk involved. 208 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 14:07 Doesn't throw 160 innings? I mean, we can't do ERA, right? what if throws 3 scorless innings on Opening Day before getting hurt again in a freak bunting accident? You'd win the bet with a low ERA? 209 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 14:14 PD and GO announce a trade. PD acquires Roy Halladay Todd Jones GO acquires Daisuke Matsuzaka PD's pick 14.02 210 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 14:18 Defensive Runs Prevented? 211 Perm Dude       ID: 15225112       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 14:24 Trade confirmed. 212 Perm Dude       ID: 15225112       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 15:22 Iwamura is the steal of the draft at this point. Wait! Unnecessarily self-publicizing my own picks? Check. Japanese player? Check. Damn. I've turned into Species! 213 Tree       ID: 29082512       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 15:25 damn. i can't believe my first two queue picks went right in a row. damn the both of you! 214 Da Bomb       Donor       ID: 487112814       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 16:16 Is it safe to say GO has a man crush on Dice-K? 215 Great One       ID: 201155199       Thu, Mar 01, 2007, 20:17 Yeah, the eggs are in certainly in the basket of the Dice-K Revolution. Khahan, just want to make sure we adjust pick 14.02 from that trade before it comes up (shortly). 216 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 10:09 I am really starting to get annoyed by not being able to look at my team without also seeing Tree's team there. No matter. I will overcome this obstacle and win this league. 217 barilko6       ID: 4422327       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 10:16 Dave, are you already coming up with your excuse for when I win? 218 Tree       ID: 29082512       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 10:49 dave - while i agree it's a pain in the butt, it's not that difficult. click on your name. the guys with white or green backgrounds are yours. the rest, are not. :o) 219 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 14:17 Fine. Guys, I'm going on a short vacation this weekend, starting this afternoon. I'll be back Sunday night. At this point in the draft, it doesn't seem like a great idea to leave a queue. We're much farther along than most other leagues. Does anyone feel like taking the weekend off? 220 Tree       ID: 29082512       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 14:22 oh, come on... leave a queue. or find some internet access.... what if someone else wants to go away next weekend? or maybe during the middle of the week. no offense, but holding the draft up for one person doesnt seem right. 221 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 14:31 At this point in the draft its the EASIEST time to leave a que... because who cares what position, we're just filling out pitching, last positional players and backups. Que up 20 guys and have a great weekend! 222 Astade       ID: 57544126       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 14:35 and leave several DPs...not just one. 223 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 14:55 That's why I asked. I'll find someone. 224 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 15:08 How many rounds does this go? I found a full-time draft would will draft this league as if he's in it. You guys are in good hands. 225 Perm Dude       ID: 17225214       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 15:25 23 rounds total. 226 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 15:41 Hey guys, I just realized something. I know Wiggs timed out but I remembered him posting in the Hoops thread the following... also 1 more thing, I have been at the hospital alot lately, my wife had surgery on 2/15 and they made a mistake, she has since had 2 more surgeries. I get access from the hotel, but i dont spend alot of time there and when I do I have honestly been focusing more on my baseball drafts. He may be tied up with something more important along those lines so perhaps we should just give him a little time here so he doesn't get way too far behind... 227 Perm Dude       ID: 17225214       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 15:43 That's a good idea. I see you came up with it after your pick. Hmmmm. :) Can we pause the draft until wiggs returns? 228 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 15:44 Yeah, and I'll publically offer to trade him Igawa if thats who he wanted. 229 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 16:34 guys, thanks for holding up. I appreciate it. It has been another awful day. i will be away again most of the night. i will leave a queue though. 230 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 16:36 wait, i should have gotten revs 8th round pick, but someone picked for him in that place? 231 Astade@work       ID: 401261918       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 16:39 Looking to move up ... one more player I want to snag. shoot me an email if you might be interested in moving down 232 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 16:42 Wiggs gets: Jason Bay and Rev's 8th round pick Rev gets: Wiggs overall first round pick 233 Tree       ID: 29082512       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 16:48 wait, i should have gotten revs 8th round pick, but someone picked for him in that place? i could be wrong, but it doesn't look like he even got your first round pick. tough to tell with how screwed up our draft has been, but it looks like you started things off with BJ Ryan, which means he essentially gave you Jason Bay, and got nothing in return. 234 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 16:48 no, ryan was his pick 235 Tree       ID: 29082512       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 16:58 no, ryan was his pick he's on your roster. 236 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 16:59 i see that, but he wasnt my pick. i dont know what happened with that. 237 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 17:50 i think we need to stop the draft, i lost 2 players that i had in my queue alteady 238 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 18:16 Yesterday Ryan showed up on my roster in green and today he's gone. Is it possible that somehow the weirdness of this draft caused Ryan to be traded to wiggs instead of my 8th round pick? The draft does need to be paused because an traded pick has been missed, and thereby wiggs misses his rightful traded for pick at 14.05 and please send Ryan back to my clubhouse:) Rev 239 Little Weasel       ID: 22226218       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 19:30 Whoops, sorry fellas. I went into this thread AFTER I just made my pick. My bad... let me know what (if anything) needs to be done on my part. Wiggs: hope the wife is doing well. 240 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 21:00 I'm stopping the draft and emailing Fred to find out what happened with the BJ Ryan. The trade was there on the books. Rev made the first pick. Now that pick is back on Wiggs team. 241 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 21:15 Greg not sure of any other players that are involved, the only one that was apparent to me was BJ Ryan should be on my team. In post 234 wiggs confirms that Ryan belongs on my team. I'm not sure when wiggs will be able to check in he's at the hospital with his wife who is under going surgery. 242 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 21:53 Right, but what about pick 14.5? Who should have had (I assume wiggs) and who SHOULD the pick really have been? 243 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 00:09 i had a queue listed to cover that pick, but since it wasnt listed as mine it went to revs queue. Let me see who is still available, maybe i can just take the next guy on my list, just kind of sucks to lose out on a traded pick. 244 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 07:42 Wiggs should have had 14.5--and he stated earlier that at least 2 players had come off his queue since the pick was missed. I would think that he should be allowed to grab one of those players as 6 or 7 spots have since gone by, which means he now ends up with pick 14.12 if he has to go to the third player on his queue. I realize that this would mess up everyone's draft, but it seems the only fair thing to do for wiggs, as the mess up was not his fault. 2nd the player taken by me at 14.5 should be deleted and put back in the draft. 245 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 08:33 Wiggs, I know you have much more important stuff going on right now, but if you can email me the 2 players who were taken and a 3rd alternative, I will get this worked out. Rev, I'm not going to delete or change anything until I have all the info including Wiggs pick. This way I don't have to make too many different changes and it will give Fred a chance to figure out what happened. Obviously the trade was in because you actually made the first pick like you were supposed to and Ryan had been on your team. Something odd is up. 246 Tree       ID: 024037       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 08:41 seems to me that maybe Fred can go in, take out Rev's last pick, and put a player Wiggs wants on Wigg's team? and good lord no, i'm against Rev's idea of messing up the draft any more. it's already way too confusing. 247 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 09:12 Tree, all I'm going to say to that idea Rev gave is: Its an option. I'm not saying no to it. I'm not saying yes to it. I don't know how far back wiggs picks go (he had 2 that were taken). If its only 2-4 players, I'll probably do it. If its more than that, its probably going to be too disruptive. Just don't know yet. 248 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 11:49 can you open the draft back up so i can get into my queue 249 Great One       ID: 201155199       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 12:01 Just delete the last picks til Wiggs last pick the previous round? Then open it back up.. and everyone have a gentlemens agreement to take who they took again (unless Wiggs chooses that person). 250 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 12:23 my picks were Burnett Bedard josh johnson 251 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 12:24 i dont want to pick my 15.01 until i know what to do about 14.05 252 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 12:52 i also dont want this to cause any problems, so if this is a problem just take the next guy on my list my queue is set up. 253 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 12:54 you know what, just give me johnson at 14.05 and garland at 15.01 then it doesnt screw anything up. am fine with that. 254 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 14:15 ok. 255 Perm Dude       ID: 17216314       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 23:12 OK to pick? Draft still shows "paused" 256 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 23:18 i am all set so i think you can go for it 257 Perm Dude       ID: 17216314       Sat, Mar 03, 2007, 23:33 Done. I'm not sure that the trade in 209 has been reflected yet. The pick 14.02 (Igawa) is now correctly on GO's roster, but Halladay & Jones should be on PD's roster, and Matsuzaka should be on GO's. pd 258 Tree       ID: 1622149       Sun, Mar 04, 2007, 20:19 i tried to make a queue pick for Wiggs, but the guy listed he already has, so it obviously won't go through... 259 Tree       ID: 1622149       Sun, Mar 04, 2007, 23:31 made a few people after me DPs, for this round only... 260 blue hen       ID: 180152223       Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 00:08 I am back from my trip, guys. I had someone pick Zumaya, Markakis and Durham for me. Interestingly enough, Durham and Markakis are the guys I've wanted to target for a few rounds, and I'm lucky that I was able to get Prior, Dempster and Zumaya and still get the guys I wanted. Really feeling good about that. 261 Tree       ID: 29082512       Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 14:57 as an FYI, i am pretty sure i have Khahan's pick this round, so let's see what happens when it gets to him/me... 262 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 16:04 Tree, I have you as having my last round pick. 263 Tree       ID: 29082512       Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 16:18 Khahan R17 to Tree ugh. yea. i'm just now realizing that round 17 is really round 23 or whatever. so, who on earth did my team acquire in a deal where they swapped a third round pick for a last round one? 264 Tree       ID: 4729518       Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 19:45 so, seriously..anyone know what the deal was in the aforemention pick swap? 265 Great One       ID: 201155199       Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 19:47 Sounds like a player for a draft pick ala a 4th rounder for Biedrins in Jeepers. 266 Tree       ID: 4729518       Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 19:58 well, i'd like to know what player i swapped for a third rounder. lol 267 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 20:28 Tree, Check your email. 268 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 17:35 Really progressing here. In the 18th round, there are some serious gambles to be taken. Daniel Cabrera, on the other hand, is a sure thing. With Cabrera, Prior, and Harang, I have a shot at 700 strikeouts from starters alone. 269 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 19:53 With Prior, you also have a shot at 700 days on the disabled list. Good luck with that one. Of course, Dusty aint in town no more to pitch Prior into early retirement. 270 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 08:44 re 286: Come on, that trio won't even get you a combined 500... 271 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 10:02 I get 603. Harang = 216 (last year's total) Cabrera = 157 (last year's total) Prior = 230 (200 IP * his career 10.37 K rate) Total = 603 272 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 10:15 Come on Dave...you should never drink before 10:00 AM, unless you are on an all-inclusive... 273 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 10:20 Cabrera's performance last year was in 148 innings. Pro-rate out to 200 innings and he's at 212. Both he and Prior are no sure bets to reach 200 innings, but it's definitely on the good side of "realistic." 274 Perm Dude       ID: 3221379       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 10:27 At this point Cabrera isn't a bad pick--you really have to start doing some speculative picks at some point to differentiate. I don't know if Cabrera will break out much from last year (I think it is more than IP--the guy pitched in 26 games, averaging under 6 IP/game because he sported a crappy ERA). In other words he's only going to get more IP if he knocks down his ERA. Even giving him 32 appearances, at his IP/G average he gets 182 Ks. His upside is that he's he's only 25, and has a nice skill set with which to improve. 275 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 10:40 Alright, since you wouldn't even take a bet that Prior could win 12 games... can we bet he won't pitch 200 innings? or 175 innings? I'll give you a little to work with there. 276 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 10:44 I don't really have to defend the Cabrera pick. At this point in the draft, I'm quite pleased to get him. Anyway... What are some signs that he will improve his ERA? - He is 25 and players typically improve as they get older. - He has a phenomenal K/9 rate, and such players typically break out and have great seasons. - His ERA was 5.15 in the first half last year, and 4.26 in the second half last year, a sign that he was getting better as the year progressed. - His ERA was 4.74, but his Component ERA was 4.56, so he was better than his ERA indicates. His DIPS ERA was 4.24, so he was also unlucky and perhaps much better than his ERA indicates. - His ERA was 4.26 in the second half, but his Component ERA in the second half was 3.86 and his DIPS ERA in the second half was 3.76. As you can see, Daniel Cabrera is a pitcher on the rise. In the 18th round, that's an outright steal. Perhaps I will keep him next season. 277 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 10:45 Great One, what is the Vegas over/under for Prior's innings? Perhaps we should start there. 278 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 11:33 Hey Wiggs, Chad Tracy is not OF eligible. He didn't play even one game there in 2006. 279 wiggs       ID: 55013307       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 11:36 thats fine i didnt plan on using him there anyways. 280 wiggs       ID: 55013307       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 11:36 thanks though 281 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 13:05 I don't know what the Vegas projections are, but I'd imagine they are very low which would be a huge advantage for you taking the over, no? Rotowire 2007 projected 5-6, 97 IP, 4.55 ERA, 1.402 WHIP, 100 K's Now, I certainly expect better than that from him, so it would be foolish to wager on those. Thats why I want YOUR prediction, because the numbers above are certainly not what you have penciled in right now. Tell us what you expect his numbers to be in this "monster year" he's heading towards, as others have put it. 282 barilko6       ID: 1925746       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 13:50 I definitely think that Daniel Cabrera will have a better year this year. And in the 18th round, he has solid value. I've heard some very good reports coming out of training camp. That being said, I still don't put the three of those guys at 500+ K's. 283 Little Weasel       ID: 101133299       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 15:37 So what do we have, four rounds left? Let's get this thing wrapped by Fri night, shall we? 284 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 15:58 I won't go for "monster year" or else I would have taken him earlier than the 12th round. Let's go with... 13-9, 174 IP, 201 K, 3.81 WHIP. 12th round, I'll take it. But the over under for innings should be about 150. I'll take the over. 285 Perm Dude       ID: 3221379       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 16:13 He's the new Erik Bedard! 286 barilko6       ID: 1925746       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 16:45 I have Go's pick, but don't we have a rule that the player has to be in the Yahoo Database? 287 Perm Dude       ID: 3221379       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 16:59 There are some players in the Yahoo database who aren't in the OTC database. If you find one such player, email KKB and he'll add him: http://www.kafenatid.net/feedback.php 288 barilko6       ID: 1925746       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 17:03 No...GO's player is in the Kafenatid database, but not the Yahoo one. I thought this league had a rule that all players had to be in Yahoo to be eligible to be selected. 289 Perm Dude       ID: 3221379       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 17:08 Hmm. You'll probably need a ruling on that. Yahoo's use of accents in some names make they difficult to find, however. Just make sure to doublecheck. pd 290 Tree       ID: 29082512       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 17:12 i always thought kafenatid database mirrored Yahoos.... 291 barilko6       ID: 1925746       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 17:13 This player is defintely not in Yahoo. I've checked for him myself...lol Post 60 in this thread says only players in the Yahoo Database may be selected Link 292 Tree       ID: 29082512       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 17:26 hmmmmm...that kind of stinks, because i kinda feel like if it's in kafenatid, it should count, since that's the drafting program we're using.... 293 barilko6       ID: 1925746       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 17:27 I don't think its fair to change a rule mid-draft though, otherwise managers might have drafted differently. 294 Great One       ID: 201155199       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 17:57 was this Hughes I presume? Hughes in Yahoo 295 Great One       ID: 201155199       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 18:10 Alright Hen, lets use your estimates and count all 5 categories and it'll be a "best out of 5" of sorts. I assume that 3.81 above was for ERA not actually WHIP lol.. cause that would be a bit high for a WHIP! picked 160 IP which is between the 150 and 174. Let me know if you'd rather use WHIP instead of L's I guess. Hen has... (GO the opposite) Over 12.5 Wins Under 8.5 Losses Over 159.5 IP Over 199.5 K's Under 3.81 ERA This would be for 10 bucks (our entry fee). Either you send me nothing at seasons end or $20. 296 Great One       ID: 201155199       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 18:15 That reminds me, I overall wanted to collect from everyone upfront and am still missing about 6 people. Let me know if anyone needs the address again. 297 barilko6       ID: 1925746       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 18:17 re 294: Yeah, but Hughes is not actually in the actual Yahoo fantasy Pool database, which is what we go by, no? If you check the Yahoo Fantasy player database, Hughes isn't in it. 298 Great One       ID: 201155199       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 18:49 Well that would certainly have changed my entire Lucky 13 draft then! lol... 299 barilko6       ID: 1925746       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 19:14 The Lucky 13 we don't have that rule that states that the player needs to be in the Yahoo Database like we do in this league, The Dirty Dozen. I remember last year when I was not allowed to pick Delmon Young right away because he wasn't in the database. Should we pause things until we get the official ruling from Khahan, so that GO doesn't lose his picks to others? 300 Great One       ID: 201155199       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 19:19 Yeah but if a guy IS in the database you can't pick him as a farmer, and several guys I didn't pick because of it. I didn't want Jay Bruce at all, just the best available of those not in Yahoo "players" section but not specifically in the players section within the fantasy game. 301 barilko6       ID: 1925746       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 19:31 Two different leagues with different set-ups though...its like comparing Blue Hen to Tree. 302 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 19:48 The rule has always been that the player must appear in the Yahoo player database that you reach when you go to the league screen and click on the 'players' link. If he's not in there, he's not eligible. This is a keeper league, but it is not a prospect league. That has always been the reasoning behind it. If you want a rookie who hasn't made the database, you have to be smart w/ your waiver wire priority and catch him on the IPO. 303 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 19:50 In fact, last year, we had a situation with, I think Delmon Young. A manager wanted to draft him. He emailed me, I didn't see delmon and told him no luck. About 2 rounds later, Young was in the database and a different manager saw that and took him. He's got to be available when you make the pick or the pick doesn't count. So GO, I'll back the draft up for you now before it gets ahead of you. But this has been a rule since season 1. 304 Great One       ID: 201155199       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 19:55 Picked. 305 Tree       ID: 21212718       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 20:08 how can we propose new rules? i'd like to offer the suggestion that if the player is in the database of the program being used to draft (i.e. kafinated), then that should be the default. 306 Great One       ID: 201155199       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 20:12 Yeah, but if he can't put him on your team on the actual website then you'd have to leave an empty spot and you'd have to be monitored etc and thats a pain in the butt. The fact that he is on Kafenatid is arbitrary because its not soley a "Yahoo" drafting utility - you could draft for CBS or whatever other website using Kafenatid and thats why he is in there. 307 Tree       ID: 21212718       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 21:18 you'd have to be monitored etc and thats a pain in the butt. no, you wouldn't have to be monitored. you're on your own. if you don't leave an empty slot, and you end up picking up someone, you forfeit your rights to that drafted player - no ifs, ands, or buts. 308 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 22:42 I think the monitoring comes in when you have to ensure which team still has an open roster space and which one doesn't. 309 Perm Dude       ID: 3221379       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 22:48 I think the monitering would come in to make sure that the right guy gets the player when he's finally added. 310 barilko6       ID: 290202915       Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 23:21 But if that guy doesn't get added until something like September, then someone has to make sure that teams holding an empty roster spot actually hold those spots for the duration of the season. Not saying anyone is dishonest here, but its hard to keep tabs on which team has how many roster spots that are supposed to be empty because of a prospect coming in from down the line. I played in a league where we were all friends for years, and some guys tried to slip past a guy into a roster spot... 311 barilko6       ID: 1925746       Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 15:25 Crap...I had Liriano all queued up for my last pick, thought I needed a catcher more and that Liriano would make it one more round... 312 Tree       ID: 29082512       Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 15:50 yea. but having liriano take up a roster spot the whole season is a long time for a guy who won't touch a ball again until after the World Series... 313 Little Weasel       ID: 101133299       Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 15:54 I take it he'll be your seventh keeper next year, eh? ;) 314 barilko6       ID: 1925746       Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 16:08 Yeah, but when you have a team as good as mine, you can afford to keep a guy on the bench all year. Its kind of like World Series champs St.Louis last year with Hector Luna and then Willie Canate in 1993 with Champs in Toronto. 315 Perm Dude       ID: 5325288       Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 20:32 Just so we don't get lost here at the end: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL, DL 316 Great One       ID: 201155199       Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 20:37 I may keep him, I may trade him at the deadline to a rebuilding team. Who knows. 317 blue hen       ID: 53226823       Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 00:34 Luna was actually a pretty significant piece of the puzzle this year. As for Liriano, he's well worth having in a league with 3 DL slots. I just can't imagine that he'll be worth keeping at the end of 2007. Granted, the way Great One's team is shaping up... 318 blue hen       ID: 53226823       Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 00:34 Luna was actually a pretty significant piece of the puzzle this year. As for Liriano, he's well worth having in a league with 3 DL slots. I just can't imagine that he'll be worth keeping at the end of 2007. Granted, the way Great One's team is shaping up... 319 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 10:55 You guys are so quiet. 320 Tree       ID: 29082512       Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 10:56 we're quietly laughing at you... 321 barilko6       ID: 2825597       Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 11:05 I am done with my team. Drafting complete. I am not just waiting for the waiver wire to open so I can dump all my players... 322 Perm Dude       ID: 3621299       Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 17:08 Done! Results: Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 1.01 Jason Bay OF PIT wiggs 2.01 Mariano Rivera RP NYY wiggs 3.01 Michael Young SS TEX wiggs 4.01 Carlos Delgado 1B NYM wiggs 5.01 Garrett Atkins 3B COL wiggs 6.01 Randy Johnson SP ARI wiggs 8.01 Rich Harden SP OAK wiggs 10.01 Chien-Ming Wang P NYY wiggs 11.01 Todd Helton 1B COL wiggs 12.01 Josh Beckett P BOS wiggs 13.01 Ervin Santana P LAA wiggs 14.01 Kenji Johjima C SEA wiggs 14.04 Jeff Kent 2B LAD wiggs barilko6 14.05 Jon Garland SP CWS wiggs revvingparson 15.01 Josh Johnson SP FLA wiggs 16.01 Jeremy Hermida OF FLA wiggs 17.01 Pedro Martinez SP NYM wiggs 18.01 Curtis Granderson OF DET wiggs 19.01 Chad Tracy 3B ARI wiggs 20.01 Freddy Sanchez SS PIT wiggs 21.01 Ken Griffey OF CIN wiggs 22.01 Todd Coffey RP CIN wiggs 23.01 Homer Bailey P CIN wiggs Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 1.02 Brad Lidge RP HOU PermDude 1.12 Roy Halladay SP TOR PermDude restok79 2.02 Eric Gagne RP TEX PermDude 3.02 Justin Verlander SP DET PermDude 4.02 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA PermDude 5.02 Pat Burrell OF PHI PermDude 6.02 Adrian Gonzalez 1B SDG PermDude 8.02 C.C. Sabathia SP CLE PermDude 9.02 Robinson Cano 2B NYY PermDude 10.02 Richie Sexson 1B SEA PermDude 11.02 Greg Maddux P SDG PermDude 12.02 Jorge Posada C NYY PermDude 12.12 Todd Jones RP DET PermDude restok79 13.02 Akinori Iwamura 3B TAM PermDude 15.02 Ian Snell P PIT PermDude 16.02 Barry Bonds OF SFO PermDude 17.02 Boof Bonser P MIN PermDude 18.02 Omar Vizquel SS SFO PermDude 19.02 Kelly Johnson OF ATL PermDude 20.02 Aubrey Huff OF BAL PermDude 21.02 Orlando Cabrera util LAA PermDude 22.02 Lastings Milledge OF NYM PermDude 23.02 Tim Lincecum P SFO PermDude 23.12 Andy LaRoche ben LAD PermDude restok79 Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 1.03 Delmon Young OF TAM Khahan 2.03 Victor Martinez C CLE Khahan 3.03 Jason Schmidt SP LAD Khahan 4.03 Chris Ray RP BAL Khahan 5.03 Jim Thome util CWS Khahan 6.03 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI Khahan 7.03 Paul Konerko 1B CWS Khahan 8.03 Rocco Baldelli OF TAM Khahan 9.03 Jeremy Bonderman SP DET Khahan 9.06 Bill Hall 3B MIL Khahan Tree 9.08 Curt Schilling SP BOS Khahan davelipman 11.03 Jason Isringhausen RP STL Khahan 12.03 JD Drew OF BOS Khahan 13.03 Hank Blalock ben TEX Khahan 14.03 Ian Kinsler 2B TEX Khahan 16.03 Bronson Arroyo P CIN Khahan 17.03 Noah Lowry P SFO Khahan 18.03 Nomar Garciaparra ben LAD Khahan 19.03 Jorge Julio P ARI Khahan 20.03 B.J. Upton ben TAM Khahan 21.03 Casey Blake ben CLE Khahan 22.03 Joe Crede 3B CWS Khahan 22.12 Jon Lester RP BOS Khahan restok79 Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 1.04 Carlos Beltran OF NYM barilko6 2.04 Francisco Rodriguez RP LAA barilko6 3.04 Lance Berkman OF HOU barilko6 4.04 Derrek Lee 1B CHC barilko6 5.04 Brandon Webb SP ARI barilko6 6.04 Dan Uggla 2B FLA barilko6 7.04 Billy Wagner SP NYM barilko6 8.04 Alex Rios OF TOR barilko6 8.09 Matt Cain SP SFO barilko6 holt 9.01 Troy Glaus 3B TOR barilko6 wiggs 9.04 Francisco Cordero RP MIL barilko6 9.07 Chris Young SP SDG barilko6 astade 9.12 Cole Hamels SP PHI barilko6 restok79 10.04 Frank Thomas util TOR barilko6 10.07 Felipe Lopez SS WAS barilko6 astade 11.04 Dan Haren SP OAK barilko6 13.04 Scott Podsednik OF CWS barilko6 15.04 Rich Hill SP CHC barilko6 17.04 Jorge Cantu 2B TAM barilko6 18.04 Lyle Overbay ben TOR barilko6 19.04 Kevin Gregg RP FLA barilko6 20.04 Johnny Estrada C MIL barilko6 21.04 Anthony Reyes SP STL barilko6 Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 1.05 Johan Santana SP MIN revvingparson 2.05 Roy Oswalt SP HOU revvingparson 3.05 Grady Sizemore OF CLE revvingparson 4.05 Ryan Zimmerman 3B WAS revvingparson 5.05 Prince Fielder 1B MIL revvingparson 6.05 Rickie Weeks 2B MIL revvingparson 7.01 B.J. Ryan RP TOR revvingparson wiggs 7.05 Edgar Renteria SS ATL revvingparson 8.05 Russell Martin C LAD revvingparson 8.12 Hideki Matsui OF NYY revvingparson restok79 9.05 Jeremy Sowers SP CLE revvingparson 10.05 Mike Cameron OF SDG revvingparson 11.05 Jonny Gomes OF TAM revvingparson 13.05 Magglio Ordonez OF DET revvingparson 15.05 Mike Jacobs 1B FLA revvingparson 16.05 Javier Vazquez SP CWS revvingparson 17.05 Stephen Drew SS ARI revvingparson 18.05 Kazuo Matsui 2B COL revvingparson 19.05 Ryan Shealy 1B KAN revvingparson 20.05 Jason Jennings P HOU revvingparson 21.05 Ryan Braun 3B MIL revvingparson 22.05 Jeff Suppan P MIL revvingparson 23.05 Chris Duncan OF STL revvingparson Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 1.06 Travis Hafner util CLE davelipman 2.06 Miguel Tejada SS BAL davelipman 3.06 Carl Crawford OF TAM davelipman 4.06 Adam Dunn OF CIN davelipman 5.06 Albert Pujols 1B STL davelipman 6.06 Joe Mauer C MIN davelipman 7.08 Trevor Hoffman RP SDG davelipman Tree 8.08 Bobby Jenks RP CWS davelipman Tree 10.08 Scott Rolen 3B STL davelipman Tree 11.08 Aaron Harang SP CIN davelipman Tree 12.08 Mark Prior SP CHC davelipman Tree 13.08 Ryan Dempster RP CHC davelipman Tree 14.08 Joel Zumaya P DET davelipman Tree 15.03 Nick Markakis OF BAL davelipman Khahan 15.08 Ray Durham 2B SFO davelipman Tree 16.08 Armando Benitez RP SFO davelipman Tree 17.08 Morgan Ensberg ben HOU davelipman Tree 18.08 Daniel Cabrera SP BAL davelipman Tree 19.08 Taylor Tankersley RP FLA davelipman Tree 20.08 Troy Tulowitzki ben COL davelipman Tree 21.08 Brad Hawpe OF COL davelipman Tree 22.08 Oliver Perez P NYM davelipman Tree 23.08 Kevin Millwood SP TEX davelipman Tree Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 1.07 Miguel Cabrera 3B FLA astade 2.07 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA astade 3.07 Mark Teixeira 1B TEX astade 4.07 Jermaine Dye OF CWS astade 5.07 Jake Peavy SP SDG astade 6.07 Carlos Zambrano SP CHC astade 7.07 J.J. Putz RP SEA astade 8.07 Ben Sheets SP MIL astade barilko6 11.07 Corey Patterson OF BAL astade 11.12 Nick Swisher OF OAK astade barilko6 12.07 Dave Roberts OF SFO astade 13.07 Joe Borowski RP CLE astade 14.07 Tadahito Iguchi 2B CWS astade 15.07 Scott Olsen SP FLA astade 16.07 Chuck James SP ATL astade 17.07 Akinori Otsuka RP TEX astade 18.07 A.J. Pierzynski C CWS astade 19.07 Mike Gonzalez RP ATL astade 20.07 Matt Garza SP MIN astade 21.07 Kevin Kouzmanoff 3B SDG astade 22.07 Carlos Quentin OF ARI astade 23.04 Kevin Youkilis 1B BOS astade barilko6 23.07 Eric Byrnes OF ARI astade Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 1.08 Carlos Lee OF HOU Tree 2.08 Justin Morneau 1B MIN Tree 3.08 Vernon Wells OF TOR Tree 4.08 Rafael Furcal SS LAD Tree 5.08 Brian McCann C ATL Tree 6.08 John Lackey SP LAA Tree 7.06 Huston Street RP OAK Tree davelipman 8.06 Brian Roberts 2B BAL Tree davelipman 10.06 Dontrelle Willis SP FLA Tree davelipman 11.06 Willy Taveras OF COL Tree davelipman 12.06 Octavio Dotel RP KAN Tree davelipman 13.06 Edwin Encarnacion 3B CIN Tree davelipman 14.06 Erik Bedard SP BAL Tree davelipman 15.06 Howie Kendrick 2B LAA Tree davelipman 16.06 Eric Chavez 3B OAK Tree davelipman 17.06 Tom Glavine SP NYM Tree davelipman 18.06 Jhonny Peralta SS CLE Tree davelipman 19.06 Corey Hart OF MIL Tree davelipman 20.06 Dan Wheeler RP HOU Tree davelipman 21.06 Brandon McCarthy SP TEX Tree davelipman 22.06 Mike Pelfrey SP NYM Tree davelipman 23.03 Justin Duchscherer RP OAK Tree Khahan 23.06 Josh Willingham OF FLA Tree davelipman Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 1.09 David Wright 3B NYM holt 2.09 Chris Carpenter SP STL holt 3.09 Matt Holliday OF COL holt 4.09 Joe Nathan RP MIN holt 5.09 Andruw Jones OF ATL holt 6.09 Jered Weaver SP LAA holt 7.09 Takashi Saito RP LAD holt 9.09 Carlos Guillen SS DET holt 10.09 Torii Hunter OF MIN holt 11.09 Josh Barfield 2B CLE holt 12.09 Chipper Jones 3B ATL holt 13.09 Adam LaRoche 1B PIT holt 14.09 Adam Wainwright SP STL holt 15.09 Dave Bush SP MIL holt 16.04 Ivan Rodriguez C DET holt barilko6 16.09 Chris Capuano SP MIL holt 17.09 Jonathan Broxton RP LAD holt 18.09 Marcus Giles 2B SDG holt 19.09 Chris Duffy OF PIT holt 20.09 Jim Edmonds OF STL holt 21.09 Brian Wilson RP SFO holt 22.09 Conor Jackson 1B ARI holt 23.09 Pat Neshek RP MIN holt Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 1.10 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC chdr9 2.10 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC chdr9 3.10 Derek Jeter SS NYY chdr9 4.10 Juan Pierre OF LAD chdr9 5.10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY chdr9 6.10 Brian Fuentes RP COL chdr9 7.10 Tom Gordon RP PHI chdr9 8.10 Brett Myers SP PHI chdr9 9.10 Bob Wickman RP ATL chdr9 10.10 Jason Giambi 1B NYY chdr9 11.10 Mike Mussina SP NYY chdr9 12.10 Barry Zito SP SFO chdr9 13.10 Freddy Garcia P PHI chdr9 14.10 Jeff Francoeur util ATL chdr9 15.10 Ramon Hernandez C BAL chdr9 16.10 Roger Clemens ben HOU chdr9 17.10 Derek Lowe P LAD chdr9 18.10 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN chdr9 19.10 Nate Robertson P DET chdr9 20.10 Cla Meredith P SDG chdr9 21.10 Scott Linebrink P SDG chdr9 22.10 Brian Giles ben SDG chdr9 23.10 Dennys Reyes P MIN chdr9 Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 1.11 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA Da Bomb 2.11 Felix Hernandez SP SEA Da Bomb 3.11 David Ortiz 1B BOS Da Bomb 4.11 Jose Reyes SS NYM Da Bomb 5.11 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY Da Bomb 6.11 John Smoltz SP ATL Da Bomb 7.11 Scott Kazmir SP TAM Da Bomb 8.11 Chad Cordero RP WAS Da Bomb 9.11 Jose Valverde RP ARI Da Bomb 10.11 Gary Sheffield OF DET Da Bomb 11.11 Salomon Torres RP PIT Da Bomb 12.11 Ryan Freel 2B CIN Da Bomb 13.11 Raul Ibanez OF SEA Da Bomb 14.11 A.J. Burnett SP TOR Da Bomb 15.11 Michael Cuddyer OF MIN Da Bomb 16.11 Kelvim Escobar SP LAA Da Bomb 17.11 Michael Barrett C CHC Da Bomb 18.11 David Weathers RP CIN Da Bomb 19.11 Scot Shields RP LAA Da Bomb 20.11 Brad Penny SP LAD Da Bomb 21.11 Bartolo Colon SP LAA Da Bomb 22.11 Anibal Sanchez SP FLA Da Bomb 23.11 Moises Alou OF NYM Da Bomb Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From 2.12 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS restok79 3.12 Ryan Howard 1B PHI restok79 4.12 Chase Utley 2B PHI restok79 5.12 Manny Ramirez OF BOS restok79 6.12 Johnny Damon OF NYY restok79 7.02 Daisuke Matsuzaka SP BOS restok79 PermDude 7.12 Chone Figgins OF LAA restok79 10.03 Alex Gordon 3B KAN restok79 Khahan 10.12 Julio Lugo SS BOS restok79 12.04 Joel Pineiro RP BOS restok79 barilko6 12.05 Andy Pettitte SP NYY restok79 revvingparson 13.12 John Patterson SP WAS restok79 14.02 Kei Igawa SP NYY restok79 PermDude 14.12 Coco Crisp OF BOS restok79 15.12 Mike Piazza C OAK restok79 16.12 Mark Teahen 3B KAN restok79 17.12 Kerry Wood RP CHC restok79 18.12 Tim Hudson P ATL restok79 19.12 Seth McClung RP TAM restok79 20.12 Francisco Liriano SP MIN restok79 21.12 Mike Timlin RP BOS restok79 22.04 Chris Young OF ARI restok79 barilko6 323 Little Weasel       ID: 623919       Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 20:04 Hate to break it to you, fellas... but clearly, I'm the team to beat in '07! 324 revvingparson       Sustainer       ID: 059856912       Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 14:03 Khahan Should take Braun off my team. I had drafted Ryan Braun-3B-Mil, but now see that he's not in Yahoo data base, so I should have an empty slot. 325 Tree       ID: 26238116       Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 14:16 man..i love that new drag & drop thing with our line ups! 326 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 14:33 Rev, who would you like in his place? 327 Great One       ID: 201155199       Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 16:15 PD should have Halladay I believe. 330 Khahan       ID: 59132245       Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 19:10 PD, because of the trade you had 1 extra player. Let me know who to drop so I can add Halladay back onto your roster. 331 Great One       ID: 201155199       Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 13:35 So, Mr. Hen, still interested in our side bet or have you backed down and admitted I was right? Over 12.5 Wins Under 8.5 Losses Over 159.5 IP Over 199.5 K's Under 3.81 ERA The one thing I don't like is the losses, because when he gets hurt again, he won't come near those 9 losses so you are getting a freebie... 332 barilko6       ID: 2825597       Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 17:10 Hey Hen.... Maybe Prior might win the Cubs closing job now that he is out of the rotation? I am thinking it can't be a positive thing to be behind both Jason Marquis AND Wade Miller in a 5 man rotation... 333 barilko6       ID: 2825597       Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 17:10 The above post is just a subtle way to instigate much needed trash talk. 334 Khahan       ID: 132531514       Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 18:29 rotten banana peels, litter, half eaten sandwiches, chicken bones...is that enough 'trash' talk for you? 335 barilko6       ID: 2825597       Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 18:56 Hmm...not bad. Now I know I might be an easy target, but I was just hoping someone would look at my team, cut it apart, make fun of it, and force me to defend all my great selections... 336 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 10:18 Khahan - that's just like a dirty joke I used to know. About a pig and some mud. I guess I should dangle Prior - here is your chance to get him cheap. 337 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 10:52 I have Wood! 338 barilko6       ID: 36247258       Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 12:37 Great One...please...not the right forum for that kind of dirty talk. 339 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Wed, Apr 04, 2007, 14:28 Yay! I'm in second place right now. I guess I made the right decision to keep Adam Dunn... 340 barilko6       ID: 73157       Thu, Apr 05, 2007, 09:06 A good night bumps me up into a 3 way tie for first. Hope I can stay here all year. 341 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Thu, Apr 05, 2007, 09:43 3 way! 342 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Thu, Apr 05, 2007, 09:44 and this is the "DIRTY" Dozen... righ?! :) 343 Great One       ID: 201155199       Fri, Apr 06, 2007, 10:39 Got a couple checks this week... putting them in the bank today. Made arrangements with Barilko as well as we are meeting up this summer in Canada. (Does he pay Canadian?! :) 2007 Paid Great One Wiggs Little Weasel Perm Dude Astade Khahan Rev Barilko* Outstanding Tree, Hen, Holt, Da Bomb 344 blue hen       ID: 472431014       Sun, Apr 08, 2007, 17:38 Great One. Pick a night to come to Manhattan. In addition to paying off my debt, I guess you can pay forward some of my winnings... 345 Tree       ID: 5334494       Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 06:46 GO - you going to any of the ROH shows this weekend? 346 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 09:15 Hen, I don't know much, but I do know that sorry squad won't be winning this season! :) Tree - I am passing on LI and can't find any tickets for Edison. If you can get me 3 tickets to Edison I would just pay your $10 as a finders fee! :) Ok not really, but we could settle up there. 347 barilko6       ID: 33351010       Tue, Apr 10, 2007, 15:21 I think I should pay Canadian. I studied the rules over and over, and it clearly doesn't state which currency we use for payment. With the way the Canadian economy is going anyways, I bet my Canada $10 is going to be worth more come October anyways.... 348 Khahan       ID: 132531514       Tue, Apr 10, 2007, 15:48 Ahh, but Barilko...we are arrogant Americans. ;-) If we say something like a '$10 entry fee' the American dollar is simply implied by the fact that we are the best and OBVIOUSLY our system is the better system to use. 349 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Tue, Apr 10, 2007, 15:52 and your favorite team plays in the AMERICAN league, right?!! :) 350 barilko6       ID: 33351010       Tue, Apr 10, 2007, 16:47 Dang...American League, National League. Either way I lose that arguement... Next year I am aiming for my team to consist of: And I know you guys can all list better American teams, but lets be honest, this team is completely draftable. I added A-Rod at short due to his penchant for changing home countries and the fact the U.S. won't start him at his natural position anyways. We are going to offer him Poutine and Beer to make the switch. C: Russell Martin 1b: Justin Morneau 2b: Pete Orr SS: Alex Rodriguez 3b: Mark Teahan OF: Jason Bay OF: Adam Stern Util: Corey Koskie Util: Scott Thorman SP: Rich Harden SP: Erik Bedard SP: Jeff Francis SP: Adam Loewen SP: Shawn Hill RP: Eric Gagne RP: Ryan Dempster RP: Rheal Cormier RP: Ryan Braun RP: Jesse Crain 351 Little Weasel       ID: 573271218       Thu, Apr 12, 2007, 20:32 To quote both the great McKenzie Bros and Geddy Lee: "Take off! To the Great White North! Take off! It's a groovy way to go." 352 holt       ID: 590581711       Fri, Apr 13, 2007, 04:35 haha, love it. speaking of the mckenzie bros, my brother has their "action figures" still in unopened boxes. every time i go over there i wanna open em up and play with em but no can do. : ) and speaking of geddy lee, the espn commercials he is in are pretty funny. for hardcore geddy fans, check out geddy's winter tips on you tube (tobaggan safety). sorry about the delay on the ten bucks. i'll get it sent. my snail mail skills are pretty rusty. 353 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Fri, Apr 13, 2007, 11:30 I got a buddy who has McKenzie Bros. figures. They talk and everything. The Dominican team would crush that sorry ass Canadian team. 354 barilko6       ID: 52261810       Fri, Apr 13, 2007, 11:48 I remember that sorry ass Canadian team knocking off a highly favoured team in the WBC, only to lose out on the playoffs because of some stupid tie-breaker formula... 355 Little Weasel       ID: 2301919       Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 21:07 Just checked out the tobaggan safety bit, a little 2112 runnin' in the background... classic! "Get your roadie to take the tobaggan back up the hill" 356 barilko6       ID: 5431697       Sat, Apr 21, 2007, 10:13 Crap....I sure wish I had started Chris Young last night against the Rockies... 357 Great One       ID: 201155199       Sat, Apr 21, 2007, 10:43 Mariano Rivera rules!!! :) I guess as a Sox fan I really win either way, right? 358 Tree       ID: 29082512       Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 16:46 BH - what was Prior's final line for the season? could you post his stats here? i know you have pretty ready access to them... but in case you're not sure, let me give you a hint. across the board, you're gonna get: 359 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 17:11 The egg didn't show up, except on my face. I was wrong, clearly. And actually, it's hurt my Dirty Dozen team. Fortunately, I'll be fine. 360 Great One       ID: 201155199       Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 21:21 On a side note, Phillip Hughes is on the trading block. Looking for an upgrade in my OF. Or, I could just hold on... Daisuke, Phillip, Liriano (and/or Homer)?! Now thats a trio for many years to come! 361 barilko6       ID: 43524213       Thu, Apr 26, 2007, 08:46 My trio will be just as good, mark my words: Cole Hamels Matt Cain Brandon Webb Dan Haren Chris Young Rich Hill Tom Gorzelanny I just have to figure out which 3 are the ones to take me to the promised land... Prior wasn't a completely terrible risk to take, a first round pick when healthy and on his game. (Yes, which has been awhile) The 12th round was a little early, but rest assured he would have went fairly soon after I think. On Kafenatid, his ADP was 201, meaning about about a 16th rounder. He went as high as 9th round in one draft. Sure there were a lot of great players taken after Prior, but successful risks are what wins leagues. 362 barilko6       ID: 16312296       Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 18:55 Anyone interested in picking up Brandon Wood as a possible keeper for years to come, let me know. He's going to be good someday, but I am contending this year... 363 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Mon, Apr 30, 2007, 11:34 I tell ya what, with Figgins returning, I now have some depth in the IF and plenty of speed everywhere with Lugo, Crisp, Ichiro, Victorino. So if you need some steals, let me know. I am looking for a 3B with some pop - and they don't need to be young or have keeper potential (i.e. a Chipper Jones type). Also, I would work Rivera into this deal as I think I have a couple closers that may take over the primary roles soon. So you could sure up Steals/Saves pretty quickly by moving a good 3B... a spot thats pretty easy to replace. 364 Da Bomb       Donor       ID: 487112814       Sun, May 13, 2007, 06:11 Sorry guys. I almost wish this league was more competitive for you!! ;) 365 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Tue, May 15, 2007, 09:27 I know I'm not worried - to endure the AWFUL starts of guys like Ryan Howard, Manny, Rivera, Figgins, and Alex Gordon... and somehow still be in the top 5 is amazing to me. There are a lot of points out there staring me in the face. Just gotta continue to tread water til Howard comes back and hope he gets back on track. We all know Manny and Rivera etc will come around. 366 blue hen       ID: 472431014       Sun, May 20, 2007, 11:11 Alright, I think I need some more balance. I am looking to move one of my hitters for a pitcher. You can have Scott Rolen, Brad Hawpe, Nick Markakis, Ray Durham, or Conor Jackson for a pitcher with a nice strikeout rate in a decent park. I also have a surplus at closer, so I would consider adding one to help set it in motion. 367 Great One       ID: 201155199       Sun, May 20, 2007, 11:27 Hen, thought you had this season locked up and we were just all mailing you the checks. On a side note, I have SIX guys on the DL, sweet! 368 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Tue, Jun 26, 2007, 12:48 I know I still have Tree/Hen oustanding on dues... and Barilko and I have discussed our plan. Was I missing one more somewhere? I'm thinking Holt possibly. That would be the Final Four so to speak. 369 Khahan       ID: 5654181       Tue, Jun 26, 2007, 16:50 GO, I sent you a counter. Let's get this done. 370 Khahan       ID: 4862841       Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 07:32 GO trades Homer Bailey + his 4th rounder for Griffey and Wiggs last round pick. 371 Astade       ID: 5935164       Mon, Jul 16, 2007, 20:29 GO, got your trade offer. Please see the comments I sent you. 372 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 13:07 Hey Barilko - still planning that trip? 373 barilko6       ID: 52261810       Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 18:27 Yeah....we are leaving Thursday morning and arriving there Thursday morning. Got lots already booked up, just hoping the weather plays nice. You going to be in town all weekend? 374 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 11:52 Yep. I sent you an email but either you ignored it or it went to junk. 375 barilko6       ID: 52261810       Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 18:28 Hmm....never got it, and I checked my spam folder as well. I might have accidently deleted it with a bunch of spam, or AOL used its normal discretion and blocked it. That actually happens a lot. We are heading out tonight, so I won't return any offers or emails until Monday all. Hen, you have my cell, I am not sure if it works in the US (Canadian Carrier) but give it a call! 376 Tree       ID: 6637235       Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 07:11 trade between GO and myself also includes his 5th round pick for my last round pick (GO, i honestly might have the pick wrong. if i am, please correct.)... 377 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 12:42 I believe we settled on 7th for your last. I may still have the confirmation still Yahoo in my trash, I'll poke around. 378 Khahan       ID: 456241818       Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 19:30 Posting here is fine. Its a single location for information for people to evaluate trades. But please email me any picks that are traded. I normally send an email asking, but missed it on this one. However, its your job to notify me of traded picks, not the other way around. I need this to keep track of trades for setting up the draft next year. Please email the info so I can keep it with all the other traded picks. 379 blue hen       ID: 16322314       Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 09:35 Looking to make a deal as we head to the end of the season. Definitely looking to move Jason Bartlett and Jason Giambi, who are both great, but blocked by Pujols, Hafner, and Tejada. If you're looking for a middle infielder with speed or a power burst, make me an offer. I'm looking for young players, or closers with good ratios. 380 blue hen       ID: 16322314       Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 09:35 Or Jason Varitek, who is blocked by Mauer. 381 Tree       ID: 3533298       Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 10:00 well, as long as we're offering up shopping lists. i've got a really solid crew of young players i'm looking to move. heck, a lot more solid than those re-treads that BH is looking to move. ;o) James Loney, Brian Roberts, Dustin Pedroia, Howie Kendrick, Jhonny Peralta, Aaron Rowand, Billy Butler, Shane Victorino, and Vernon Wells are all available. Jorge Posada is also available. I'm basically looking to either get draft picks, or combo up for an upgrade of my keepers in some sort of package deal that gives you several players with strong potential, and me with one or two stronger players than i currently have. will listen to all offers.r 382 Da Bomb       Donor       ID: 487112814       Sun, Aug 12, 2007, 18:14 Sheffield, Escobar, Patterson, Penny, Carmona, and any closer can be had for a 2nd round draft pick. 383 Astade       ID: 5935164       Sun, Aug 12, 2007, 18:50 I've sent out a few offers - to everyone else, the following are available: Teixeira Byrnes Zambrano Putz Shields Sheets I'm looking to package 2 of them for 1 stud. Anyone looking for depth for either a stretch run this year or additional keepers, please let me know who is available on your team. 384 holt       ID: 41512278       Sun, Aug 12, 2007, 23:17 astade - sent you an offer. 385 holt       ID: 41512278       Sun, Aug 12, 2007, 23:26 these guys are available for draft picks or players (if you offer a player, he needs to have a high batting average). Ryan Garko Ryan Theriot Torii Hunter Ty Wigginton Iván Rodríguez Chris Duncan Andruw Jones Brad Hennessey Kevin Gregg Jered Weaver Takashi Saito Jeremy Accardo Tom Gorzelanny Matt Garza John Maine Chad Billingsley Chris Carpenter 386 blue hen       ID: 16322314       Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 09:49 I need a 3B. You can pretty much have your choice of players outside of Dunn, Hafner, Pujols, Crawford, and Tejada. But he better be good. 387 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 10:00 The deadline to complete trades in this league was Sunday, Aug 12. 388 blue hen       ID: 16322314       Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 10:07 Awesome. Well that explains that. Maybe we can get Pujols or Hafner to play a few games at third. 389 Khahan       ID: 486552412       Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 16:51 I'm on vacation and w/out net access from Sat. 18 through Sunday the 26. Any commish shtiff wil have to wait until I return. 390 Great One       ID: 201155199       Mon, Sep 24, 2007, 19:44 As mentioned several times in this thread and our leaguewide email, I stil don't have any $ from Holt or Blue Hen. 391 barilko6       ID: 42828217       Tue, Sep 25, 2007, 09:08 If I get third, I think I might get money back, right? If that is the case, maybe Blue Hen can just hook me up with a free subscription to ESPN. 392 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Tue, Sep 25, 2007, 09:37 starting at #268 is some really classic stuff... Really progressing here. In the 18th round, there are some serious gambles to be taken. Daniel Cabrera, on the other hand, is a sure thing. With Cabrera, Prior, and Harang, I have a shot at 700 strikeouts from starters alone. 393 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Sat, Sep 29, 2007, 13:37 If Harang has a good start today and it pushes me to 3rd... heh. Great One, why don't you come in to Manhattan and collect? 394 Great One       ID: 201155199       Sat, Sep 29, 2007, 14:05 I do my best to avoid NYC, I hate that place. 395 Khahan       ID: 486552412       Sat, Sep 29, 2007, 23:25 As a reminder: This has always been a money league. The original members voted it to be a money league and each person who joined after year 1 was informed it was a money league. If you don't pay, you don't get invited back. Money was due by the Allstar break. Any who have not paid up by the end of the world series will not be back next year. Please coordinate with GO immediately to get payment to him. 396 Great One       ID: 201155199       Sat, Sep 29, 2007, 23:32 Khahan - what was the breakdown again? I'll get the checks ready to roll for Monday. 397 Khahan       ID: 486552412       Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 06:20 12 teams, $10 a piece is $120 1st place: $50 and a $20 donation to guru 2nd place: $30 3rd place: $20 398 barilko6       ID: 558582922       Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 07:37 Re: 395 Khahan, I think you should go one step further. If people haven't paid by the end of the season, then that manager forfeits their right to any winnings, AND, is not invited back. I mean its been since April right? 399 Perm Dude       ID: 4846306       Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 07:46 I agree 400 barilko6       ID: 558582922       Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 07:57 And I don't mean by the end of the World Series, I mean by the end of today. Its been 7 months since we've started. 401 Great One       ID: 201155199       Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 10:46 Well I've got PayPal up and running with gmail address so if you want do that it would be fine. It would need to be 11 dollars with the fee from a credit card - or if you want to do 21 dollars today you would be first to pay for next season at the same time. Just put Dirty Dozen in there and make no mention of fantasy sports or league dues or anything cause they consider it gambling. I'll email and post this. 402 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 11:39 I will pay by paypal tonight or tomorrow. However, I am in third place right now, and if that holds... 404 Da Bomb       Donor       ID: 487112814       Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 14:16 Re: 397 Didn't most agree for the new plan of the pay out? 405 Tree       ID: 468203016       Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 18:25 GO - i still owe, right? (this is standard for me. i am always late with bills i can't pay on the internet, because mailing something via USPS seems so....quaint...) 406 blue hen       ID: 16322314       Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 10:06 Now what? Looks like I finished tied for 3rd... 407 barilko6       ID: 591518       Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 10:15 I think because you and Holt didn't pay at all, Astade gets third by default. At least that would be choice.... 408 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 10:15 Tree, I actually owed you 5 bucks to split Kafenatid for Strong Style... so I just took the remaining 5 and will apply it to whatever your balance is in Football 101 with the high scores and year end payouts etc. Hen and Holt tied for third and incredibly - those are the two that didn't pay. So I guess they just split and break even and nobody has to send anyone anything. I get the 30 for 2nd and then I'll send DaBomb a check for the 70 and he can donate some to the website at his discretion in the offseason. Khahan - sound good? 409 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 10:17 And especially now that I have paypal and its even easier... I'd say for next year if you don't pay by Opening Day then you are ineligible for prizes that year. 410 blue hen       ID: 16322314       Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 10:42 Let's make it April 22. That'll give a bit of time to get everything in order (including the IRS), but still have a deadline that must be met. I'll be on time next year, I promise. 411 Great One       Sustainer       ID: 053272014       Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 11:34 Think we'll be sticking with Opening Day. Its 5 months away. If you need help budgeting to make that deadline - starting Nov 1st you should just put aside 50 cents a week (or 2 dollars a month) and by Opening Day 2008 you'll have reached your goal of $10. 412 blue hen       ID: 16322314       Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 11:47 Maybe I can spend some of my TSN winnings. Fine, Opening Day it is. Has offseason trading started? Does anyone want to make an offer for Aaron Harang? 413 Khahan       ID: 486552412       Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 16:11 Off season trading has started. Here are the final rosters: Da Bomb: C J.R. Towles 1B David Ortiz 2B José Vidro 3B Álex Rodríguez SS José Reyes OF Moisés Alou OF Vladimir Guerrero Util Daric Barton Jason Kubel Mark Reynolds Gregg Zaun Maicer Izturis Eric Chávez DL Nick Johnson SP John Smoltz SP Fausto Carmona SP Scott Kazmir RP Chad Cordero RP Manny Corpas P A.J. Burnett P Félix Hernández P Joakim Soria Brad Penny Kelvim Escobar GO Brian McCann Ryan Howard Chase Utley Ryan Braun Aaron Hill Ichiro Suzuki Pat Burrell Wily Mo Pena Jiim Thome Gary Sheffield Barry Zito Jered Weaver Jeff Suppan Francisco Cordero Huston Street Ubaldo Jimenez Aaron Leffey Nate Robertson Josh Beckett Mariano Rivera Daisuke Matsuka Cole Hamels Yovani Gallardo Blue Hen: Joe Mauer Albert Pujols Rickie Weeks Edwin Encarnacion Miguel Tejada Nick Markakis Chris Young Austin Kearns Travis Hafner Adam Dunn Jason Varitek Carl Crawford Scott Rolen Ryan Freel Aaron Harang Bryan Bullington Orlando Hernandez Trevor Hoffman Bobby Jenks Brad Lidge Jonathan Broxton Joel Zumaya Dave Bush Oliver Perez Ian Snell Jason Schmidt Holt: Ivan Rodriguez Carlos Guillen Kazuo Matsui David Wright Khalil Greene Matt Holliday Randy Winn Coco Crisp Chipper Jones Kevin Frandsen Joe Votto Torii Hunter Tike Redman Geovany Soto Jerry Owens Rajai Davis Julio Lugo Dave Roberts Chad Billingsly Joe Nathan Takashi Saito Brian Wilson Jeremy Accardo Chris Carpenter 414 Great One       ID: 201155199       Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 19:11 Khahan - I only see 4 teams.... 415 blue hen       Leader       ID: 710321114       Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 22:14 I have a large trading block: Travis Hafner Carl Crawford Adam Dunn Miguel Tejada Joe Mauer Jason Varitek Aaron Harang Trevor Hoffman Bobby Jenks Brad Lidge Nick Markakis Chris Young (ARI) RotoGuru Baseball Leagues & Standings View the Forum Registry XML Get RSS Feed for this thread Self-edit this thread Index of Forum Topics Baseball Forum   Baseball Leagues   Baseball Standings   Grand Slam Baseball Golf Forum Soccer Forum Football Forum   Football Leagues   Football Standings   Aussie Rules Basketball Forum   Basketball Leagues   Basketball Standings   Market Madness Hockey Forum   Hockey Leagues   Hockey Standings Auto Racing Forum General Fantasy Sports Politics Gaming and Entertainment Simulation Sports Horse Racing Computer Forum Developments Forum Standards Other Baseball Pages Support a Sponsor RotoGuru Store RotoGuru Hall of Fame Self-Edit GuruPatron Validation RotoGuru Blurbs     Sortable Stats     Player Lookup     Yesterday's Points     Assimilator     Schedule Generator     RSF's GuruPatron Player Info Matt G's Gurupie Chat Room Baseball News     Kafenatid.net     RotoWire     RotoTimes     RotoWorld     Fantasy Baseball Headquarters     Baseball Reference Probable Starting Pitchers     CBS Sportsline     ESPN     RotoTimes     RotoWire     USA Today Weather Forecasts     Weather.com     Intellicast     Quikcast     The Sports Network Audio Broadcasts Scoreboards     ESPN     CBS Sportsline     Yahoo! 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