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Subject: TPKL 2007 Draft Discussion
Posted by: Nerfherders
- [501035289] Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 17:49
This is for draft discussion of The Perfect Keeper League 2007 Supplemental Draft.
The draft can officially start now but the clock wont start until tomorrow at noon. |
| 1 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 18:16
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Oops, I should clarify that the weekday clock starts at 10am eastern, not 9am.
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| 2 | Andrew
ID: 52459
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 23:34
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Hey everybody...Kind of last second. I'm going to be out of town with little to know internet access from tomorrow miday PST until late afternoon Sunday. I'm going to leave a super long queue with my brother who will make picks for me, and he may need to leave them with you as his free time dictates. Sorry for the inconvenience guys.
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| 3 | Andrew
ID: 52459
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 05:32
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BTW, I've noticed I have a bit of a glut of 3rd basemen and to a lesser extent I think Outfield with Ethier, Swisher, Wilkerson, Gomes, Willingham, Hairston, Kubel, Cabrera, Atkins, and Ensberg and Quentin on the way. I'm looking for a second basemen and am willing to send off or take on picks as part of the deal. If anyone can get an offer to me soon we may be able to work it out, otherwise it can wait until Sunday/Monday to be addressed.
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| 4 | Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 14:09
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Bogus picks again... please use the 'find' command on the taken players or predraft07 spreadsheets if you are unsure if a player is taken. Bogus picks slow things down and create confusion. If you make a bogus pick your clock is up so make sure before hitting the post button.
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| 5 | Doug
ID: 31655290
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 14:09
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It's 11am PST so if you haven't left yet, please repick first round!
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| 6 | artforthehall
ID: 20212723
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 19:01
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if anyone is interested in moving up, send me an email.
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| 7 | artforthehall
ID: 20212723
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 23:33
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I am going to wait for awhile to see if CLV, shows up. It isn't a good thing to get skipped in the 1st rd. If anyone is interested in moving up, send me an email also interested in possibly moving Iguchi.
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| 8 | Doug
ID: 31655290
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 03:14
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I'm gonna be out most of the day tomorrow, but I don't pick until end of round 3 so I doubt it will be an issue. Just an FYI.
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| 9 | Doug
ID: 31655290
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 12:18
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Heading out now... I'm wondering if we shouldn't wait to see what happened with CV before proceeding any further?
The clock doesn't run on weekends anyway...
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| 10 | Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 23:52
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I was patient today but we gotta get this draft moving. Andrew is up. Hopefully his bro checks in and makes a pick soon.
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| 11 | BOSSMAN
ID: 1525299
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 00:46
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Is the clock running on weekends or not. I really don't have a preference. However, the original post seemed to indicate that the draft clock only runs during the week.
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| 12 | Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 00:51
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It isnt running on the weekends but I was hoping for more than one pick today
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| 13 | clv
Sustainer
ID: 5911351713
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 17:00
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Soooooo sorry gang...had a lifelong friend who has been stationed in Kuwait get an unexpected leave, and he and his wife showed up Friday evening. He's one of the ones who shouldn't have ever been called to go (37 years old, a Captain in the reserves), and he's been over there for 19 months - something I couldn't get away from.
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| 14 | Doug
ID: 31655290
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 18:10
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Thanks for letting us know... glad you had a chance to catch up with your buddy. Welcome back!
Now... ON WITH THE DRAFT!!! :)
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| 15 | Andrew
ID: 52459
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 18:16
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I'm so sorry guys. I left a short queue at the last minute and I really thought atleast one of them would make it to this pick. I promise I won't hold the draft up like this again. Thank you for being patient.
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| 16 | Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 19:47
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and here i thought clv got last minute tickets to the acc tourney. ;)
Okay lets get this draft going. we are a bit behind.
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| 17 | artforthehall
ID: 572321023
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 00:51
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if anyone is interested in moving up shoot me an email. I thought someone would be interested in Iguchi.
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| 18 | clv
Sustainer
ID: 5911351713
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 10:22
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Anyone around to take a queue? Bossman will probably show up before 11, and if so, I'll be here to pick, but I have to leave the office about that time.
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| 19 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 10:35
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I'm here for queues all day
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| 20 | wiggs
ID: 322111210
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 12:31
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i didnt realize how much it would hurt me to lose 2 picks. Lots of talent out there
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| 21 | Doug
ID: 441251914
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 13:16
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Yeah I would have loved to still have my 2nd rounder, but looking back to last year iirc I got some quality for it. I just need freaking Clemens to decide to pitch or retire ASAP, since for contract purposes if he retires mid-season the cap relief I'll get isn't worth nearly as much to me as it would be if I had it now. grrr...
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| 22 | artofmonk
ID: 34140523
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 13:30
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doug, i'm just glad clemens is your problem, Now. makes me feel beter, since i didn't get much out m. gozo.
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| 23 | beebop
ID: 44236122
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 14:19
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Man, i really didnt know who else to take there...
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| 24 | Andrew
ID: 52459
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 18:32
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so much for a promise... I was expecting to be able to check about 4 hours ago and wasn't able to for reasons beyond my control. I'll be better in the future.
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| 25 | BOSSMAN
ID: 36125113
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 18:45
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Andrew, I already have RIOS on my 2nd pick. Repick.
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| 26 | Andrew
ID: 37229223
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 18:54
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I'm not surprised...that news is consistent with everything else I've done wrong this draft. I've been in such a rush I've been messing everything up that I possibly can. I just need to slow down, get my cheat sheet up to speed and write out a long queue so I'll be set for whatever comes up next.
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| 27 | Doug
ID: 441251914
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 20:30
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CV please pick when you get back... you just timed out.
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| 29 | Doug
ID: 441251914
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 20:39
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I just saw his note above about a queue... but after clicking refresh the past two hours to see if I was up I needed to make my pick and move on with my day.
So just a reminder if Nerf or anyone received clv's queue, please post the pick.
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| 30 | Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 20:47
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He didnt send me a queue.
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| 31 | beebop
ID: 30223137
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 09:55
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Nerf, ive sent you a que til it runs out if thats cool...
Thanx
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| 32 | artforthehall
ID: 572321023
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 10:12
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i'll pick in a 10 min
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| 33 | Andrew
ID: 52459
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 10:17
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Nerf, I just sent you a queue for my next pick.
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| 34 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 10:45
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Thanks for the queues guys.
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| 35 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 18:46
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wiggs - what happened with your pick 6.03? Did you delete #49?
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| 36 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 18:50
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49 i picked tavarez, but saw he was already gone after recieving an email. sorry
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| 37 | Doug
ID: 361412812
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 19:06
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I'm confused... Taveras is gone, but Tavarez is still available. Did you mean Taveras?
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| 38 | Andrew
ID: 52459
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 09:48
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anyone around for a 3 man queue?
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| 39 | wiggs
ID: 47228127
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 09:50
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Doug, I picked Willy Tavares or how ever you spell it. Then I saw he was picked after recieving an email.
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| 40 | wiggs
ID: 47228127
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 09:54
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can some post the roster requirements, I had them written down, but lost them. Now I cant find them anywhere
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| 41 | Andrew
ID: 52459
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 10:10
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I thinnk its
c
1b
2b
3b
SS
MI
CI
OF
OF
OF
OF
UT
SP
SP
RP
RP
P
P
P
P
P
and then lots of bench...but I'd have to verify and I need to leave right now. I just sent you a queue Wiggs, and I'll send it to Patrick too so that atleast when he comes to pick he can pick for me.
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| 42 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 10:32
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wiggs - its the same as RIBC except there's 5 more bench slots. No SP/RP splits - 9 P's
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| 44 | Doug
ID: 361412812
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 13:34
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For clv's pick of Chris Young... I almost picked him too. It may be because he is listed as "Chris B Young" on the prospects page... as there is also a Chris Young who is a pitcher on the Padres (and under a TPKL contract), so I guess we needed to differentiate.
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| 45 | Doug
ID: 361412812
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 06:42
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Emailing a one-man queue to Nerf, I'm pretty sure he'll be available.
Clock starts up again at 7am PST, which means even if the next two picks come in I have until 9am PST... which is about when I usually get up... so if my player is gone, I should be able to get online around that time (but certainly no sooner).
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| 46 | beebop
ID: 9234152
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 16:34
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Hey nerf, can you just keep going with the que i sent you please? If it runs out, can someone email me at dhagstrom@westpac.com.au and ill try make a selection off the top of my head...
thanx guys.
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| 47 | Doug
ID: 361412812
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:01
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I don't have the spreadsheet with me on this computer but I'm pretty sure Russ Martin is on someone's prospect roster or he would have been drafted long ago.
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| 48 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:14
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Okay, I am clarifying a rule that no team can ever have more than 10 prospects at any one time. Those of you who have drafted over the limit will need to drop or call up prospects to stay at the 10 limit. I dont like the idea of teams loading up on extra prospects during a draft so that they can pick and chose who they want to keep later. If you want to draft prospects, make room for them. In the future, if you trade for prospects, you have to make room for them. I know I did not do this with beebop and clv's offseason trade and I admit that I should have. The prospect roster should have the same restrictions on limits as the active roster does.
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| 49 | wiggs
ID: 302471515
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:25
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dam you nerf i wanted him.
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| 50 | beebop
ID: 202181219
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:36
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Is it my pick, or we need to wait for a Martin repick???
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| 51 | Andrew
ID: 37229223
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:40
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Last year I was told that I didn't need to clarify whether a pick was a prospect or major league roster player until the end of the draft. I was under the impression that I could wait and see how many prospects would be available for me to get in the draft before I called all my prospects up. I want to call up Russ Martin, Jason Kubel, Josh Willingham and Scott Hairston, but if I can't find a better prospect then Hairston in the draft I want to leave him in the minors. I told Nerf before the draft that i wanted to call prospects up and he told me I could wait. Can I draft a player in conjunction with calling a player up, thus staying at 10 prospects...if not, then why not? The way I see it I'm not ever going over 10 limit. Maybe the logistics are a little off as far as timing(by a few meaningless hours) but I think its fair. Theoretically I should be able to call a prospect up to my major league roster and sign them for 1 or 2 or however many years and then draft a prospect onto the prospect roster that now has an available slot.
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| 52 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:40
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Oops I just made your pick for you beebop... the only one left on your list.
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| 53 | wiggs
ID: 41152287
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:41
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maybe we should let him repick if he wants since he has posted.
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| 54 | Andrew
ID: 37229223
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:42
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just to clarify...Russ Martin is on one of my rosters(I dunno which one because I called him up but don't know if it counted I guess since I'm apparently over the limit).
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| 55 | beebop
ID: 202181219
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:44
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Cheers, wasnt sure if anyone was left, forgot to send it to my works email. If somehow it comes back around, can someone email me on the above address please? Unless i get around to making another que...
Thanx.
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| 56 | Doug
ID: 361412812
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 20:14
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Yeah, I think we were lax last year with the 10 prospect rule, but it makes sense to keep it enforced. But I agree with Andrew, your callups shouldn't necessarily need to be determined pre-draft. If mid-draft there's a prospect you like but your prospect roster is full, you should still be able to draft that player, AS LONG AS you indicate which player you are calling up in that same post. Thus, it's a simultaneous move, prospects never exceed 10.
The contract of the called up player is determined post-draft just like all other resignings, draft picks, etc.
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| 57 | Andrew
ID: 52459
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 20:35
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Thanks for the input. Nerf and I were e-mailing back and forth and he said that he'll call up the first 3 and that if I draft a 4th prospect he'll automatically call up Hairston. So its basically what you are saying. I think according to Jason CLV has to call someone up or drop someone still, and then we are all taken care of. I'm not sure though.
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| 58 | Doug
ID: 361412812
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 21:47
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Cool... from here on out though I'd like to see people try to post the callup simultaneous with making the pick if possible... just seems like it'll make things simpler. I don't care if they post here or in the draft thread itself... normally I'd say in the draft thread with picks in bold and supplemental info in non-bold, but people seem to have problems with bolding... so maybe here is better. My .02
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| 59 | Andrew
ID: 52459
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 21:59
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thats a good point...for the record I've officially called up
Josh Willingham, OF, FLA,
Russ Martin, C, LAD, and
Jason Kubel, OF, MIN.
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| 60 | Andrew
ID: 52459
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 10:09
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I'm going to send a queue to Patrick right now.
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| 61 | beebop
ID: 40226165
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 11:25
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Yo, art, u on yahoo messenger? whats ur handle?
just got yahoo messenger coz trillian wouldnt open anymore
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| 62 | clv
Sustainer
ID: 5911351713
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 13:07
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Can someone send me the latest updated rosters/picked players they have? Obviously the one I'm working from isn't correct.
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| 63 | Patrick
ID: 1230138
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 13:31
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CLV, I sent you my list.....hope it helps
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| 64 | clv
Sustainer
ID: 5911351713
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 13:32
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Got 'em...thanks!
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| 65 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 13:40
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One other note... I discovered that there is an option in Excel to do a find for an entire worksheet. If you'd prefer to do that than use the taken player's list. I do that by hand and there were a few I missed, I think. Anyways...
Also, Mike Pelfrey has been on a few people's queues. He's taken, however I misspelled his name on the rosters. This is corrected.
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| 66 | BOSSMAN
ID: 36125113
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 18:52
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Why do we limit the number of people on the DL at any one time to 2 people?
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| 67 | Andrew
ID: 52459
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 19:11
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Doug, That Loney pick was nice...I just assumed someone already had him or I would have drafted him.
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| 68 | beebop
ID: 40226165
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 19:31
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Can i send someone a 1 man que, not sure if nerf is around at the moment, and im about to head out.
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| 69 | Doug
ID: 361412812
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 19:43
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Just send it to Nerf, he picks right before you anyway so he can post both at once.
I'd take it but I'm heading out in an hour or so for the night.
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| 70 | beebop
ID: 202181219
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 20:13
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I made that last pick w/o any of the spreadsheets here at work, but at home i didnt see his name come up when i did ctrl+f.
If he is already taken, can someone email me at dhagstrom@westpac.com.au and ill repick.
Thanx
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| 71 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 14:02
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There's a slight change in the draft matrix. I miscounted beebop's total draft picks. I believe he gets 3 picks in round 22 instead of 4. In addition, wiggs dropped Harvey for his third prospect pick so he gets an extra pick at the end of the draft.
I am going to write these prospect drafting rules into our league overview and set it in stone.
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| 72 | beebop
ID: 202181219
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 16:24
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Thatd be right, try take away any advantage i had... ;)
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| 73 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 10:54
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Andrew and Art are now done with their drafts.
Lets try to bang out the last few rounds by tomorrow evening. I'd like to get this wrapped up so I can set the lineups.
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| 74 | Patrick
ID: 1230138
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 14:47
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So much for speeding up the process.....seems like it has slowed down.
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| 75 | Patrick
ID: 1230138
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 16:57
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I think Bossman is out of town at a conference. I'll try to reach him.
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| 76 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 19:44
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Doug and clv are done with their drafts. It's paring down quite a bit now.
Doug calls up Howie Kendrick for his last pick.
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| 77 | clv
Sustainer
ID: 5911351713
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 21:02
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Weird, I'm showing that I still have slots open. I'm guessing it's because your spreadsheet may not reflect my call-ups.
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| 78 | Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 00:22
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Bossman still has one pick to make and can make it anytime. beebop is up!
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| 79 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 13:51
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I guess Bossman is going to time-out again. Once beebop wakes up hopefully we can get the rest done in an hour or so. Stick around!
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| 80 | beebop
ID: 402412014
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 13:59
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test for time.. clock run out? im not awake for another 2 hours...
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| 81 | wiggs
ID: 47228127
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 14:01
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i am here now if we run this i am ready, if not, i will have to wait about an hour or 2 before i will be checking in again.
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| 82 | beebop
ID: 402412014
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 14:41
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Just sent a que which should hopefully take the rest of the way
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| 83 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 19:32
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Danimal - I assume Theriot is drafted as a prospect because you have no more room for active players.
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| 84 | Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 00:04
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wiggs has one more pick and Bossman two more, and we are done with the draft!
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