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Subject: NBBL Preseason discussion and moves
Posted by: Matt G
- [561039520] Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 07:06
We have 2 weeks or so until the season begins and we have a few things to accomplish.
1. Contracts and positions - According to the rules contracts need to be into me 72 hours after the completion of the draft. That was last night. However, I'm going to change that. Contracts are due to me this Sunday by midnight... The reason I need them so soon, is if they aren't correct we need time to correct them.
Positions, once I have the players put into yahoo, which I will start today, you need to update your rosters for starters...
2. Money, I have Money accounted for 10/12 people. I'm not listing who I have so far here, as I don't have that information handy, however you know who you are.
3. In conjunction with the money. What do we want the payouts to be?
We have $300 to spend.
4. Rule questions and clarifications need to be finished, I don't want to have to change the rules mid season.
5. As far as this league is concerned, all players are on a 1 year contract at this point, meaning any drops or adds or anything will cost you. We also all have 20 Dollas to spend... Use wisely my friends.
Anything else? Just ask... Enjoy the NCAAs its baseball time soon. |
| 1 | Tree
ID: 1526155
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 07:08
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Rule questions and clarifications need to be finished, I don't want to have to change the rules mid season.
just want to confirm.
1. once a guy's contract hits three years, i can renew, no questions? (or is that two years?)
2. if a guy's contract expires, i have first right to re-sign him before he becomes a free agent? remind me how this works again, if it's anything different or more specific than that?
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| 2 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 10:57
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Believe that's no and no Tree.
1. Renewing of contracts I never knew about, how it was before is you say sign a guy 1 year, then the end of the year you have an extra contract year left and upgrade them to a 2 year, meaning they are still yours but next season they will be on year 2 of 2. Like if someone is a 3 year, they will be on 1 of 3, 2 of 3, 3 of 3, then RFAs. Only way to keep them longer without threat of loss would be to upgrade to 4 or 5 year making them 4 of 4/5 they following year.
2. They become RFA's. Meaning it's like an auction and after said time is up on that player you have the option to Match or Pass.
I only half skimmed through the rules so didn't notice if there were any changes based on this contract stuff, so it could be wrong.
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| 3 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 11:23
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Something around this would probably be pretty good. Could make the payouts a little smaller across the board and give 6th place $25 also so everyone in the playoffs at least can have a paid spot in the next season.
$300
1st place season - $25
1st playoffs - $100
2nd playoffs - $75
3rd playoffs - $45
4th playoffs - $30
5th playoffs - $25
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| 4 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 13:58
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Upgrades are easy...
There are 2 ways to upgrade contracts. First way is during the season, if you do this, you can only upgrade contracts that are 1, 2, or 3 years in length. The upgrade must be at least 2 years...
IE Joe Mauer signed 2007-2010 = 3 years. I decide to upgrade him in 2008. His contract is now 2007-2012 and 5 years, he also counts as a 5 year contract.
Contracts of 4 and 5 years cannot be upgraded until they expire, however you could buy them out, then they go on waivers and then you could resign them by claiming them off waivers and signing them to a contract for the remainder of the year. that would cost you a lot of dollas to do that though.
When contracts expire at the end of the year, you can resign guys before RFA begins in January, as long as 12 of those guys go into RFA.
Then in RFA, you can match or pass on RFA for the bids that were placed on them
Rosters are in Yahoo... The following guys are not in the DB and you have to add them through Waivers. Remember if you fill their roster spot, you lose your rights to that guy.
Tony - Fla Matt Lindstrom RP
WG - NYY Philip Hughes SP
WG - Mil Yovani Gallardo SP
Punk - Tam Jeff Niemann SP
Wiggs - Ari Justin Upton OF
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| 5 | Tree
ID: 332221518
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 20:47
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When contracts expire at the end of the year, you can resign guys before RFA begins in January, as long as 12 of those guys go into RFA.
so, if i have 18 guys with expiring contracts, i can resign up to 6 of them - any of them - before anyone gets a crack at them?
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| 6 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 20:51
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And how do you resign them? If they are 1 year you resign for 1 more year? If they are year 3 of 3 what happens then?
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| 7 | Tree
ID: 332221518
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 22:42
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one more question - can we do any sort of adds/drops before the season starts?
or are we committed to the roster we drafted?
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| 8 | Tree
ID: 332221518
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 22:44
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also - roster correction:
i drafted Ryan Braun, 3B, Mil. you gave me Ryan Braun, RP, KC.
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| 9 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 09:44
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Post #5
-You can resign 6 of those guys before anyone else has a crack at them correct.
Post #6
-Expiring Contracts can be resigned for any amount of time as long as your roster fits the guidelines of 1 5 year guy, 12 expirings for the next season, 25 players and less than 50.
The only real restriction is middle of the contract upgrades, which are a minimum of 2 years. If you are in year 2 of 3 and you want to upgrade that contract, you must upgrade to 5 years. That player then counts as a 5 year player, and cannot be resigned again until his contract expires.
#7 - Add/drops and Roster moves are only allowed after I receive your contracts, as nothing is free and you have to buy out contracts. Basically consider everyone on your roster as signed to a contract of at least 1 year now.
When you do go to drop someone, remember $2 per contract year, $1 for current year if after June 1 and $1 to pick up a player, we don't do freebees here.
#8
Tree I'll fix your roster.
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| 10 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 09:51
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Ryan Braun isn't in Yahoo yet... So you have an open spot until he is.
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| 11 | Tree
ID: 29082512
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 09:56
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follow up to #7 - if you do want to claim somebody, does that player go up to a general auction sort of thing, or is it first come, first serve...
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| 12 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 17:28
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Claims are standard waivers.
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| 13 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 18:49
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I guess i'm still confused on the resigning a player. If i've got 15 1 year guys I can choose to resign a max of 3 guys to any kind of contracts I want? They don't have to be the same or anything?
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| 14 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 19:57
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15 Expiring contracts, this year that would obviously be 1 year guys, you can sign those 3 other guys to any contract you want(max of 5 years) as long as...
1. You keep 25 guys on your roster.
2. Stay under the $50 cap
3. Have 12 guys who will expire next year.
So you have 15 guys expiring, you resign 3 of them to 2 year contracts(2008-2010). As long as you have a total of 12 guys expiring next year... Remember its not the # of years you are signed, its the year your contract expires...
After this season you could have 3 2 year guys...
2 expiring at the end of 2008. (2007 -2009)
3 expring at the end of 2009 (2008-2010)
Obviously only the 2 expiring at the end of the 2008 season count as expiring contracts for that year...
So you needs 10 1 year guys on your roster who will expire...
Get it?
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| 15 | I hate philadelphia
ID: 290541416
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 21:14
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one more question on this and I'll send in my contracts. Does
renewing an expiring contract cost dollas?
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| 16 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 23:24
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Renewing and Expiring contract costs 2 dollas per contract year.
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| 17 | I hate philadelphia
ID: 290541416
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 23:52
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Does anyone else feel like we may not have enough dollas to go
around? I mean only 20 dollas to start means only 20 moves can
be amde all season assuming the min dollas per move. And then if
you do that you have none for Restricted FA?
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| 18 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 01:27
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That's why you have trades with Player, Picks, and Dollars.
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| 19 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 01:47
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You really have to pay attention to what you are doing from a money side.
Yes, it is really easy to screw yourself.
Also, need to really pay attention to how you work your contracts.
Guess I need to start looking at mine.
BOL All
Cliff
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| 20 | GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 10:28
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Renewing and Expiring contract costs 2 dollas per contract year.
We have to pay for expiring contracts? So the 12 guys who will expire next year cost us $24?
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| 21 | Tree
ID: 31237176
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 10:30
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i think he meant Renewing "an" expiring contract...
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| 22 | I hate philadelphia
ID: 290541416
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 10:45
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Should we post contracts?
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| 23 | GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 13:56
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Could some please send rules. Printed them off but left at work.
Thanks
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| 24 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 14:26
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Yes I meant An not and, sorry...
Yes we only get 20 dollas for moves, the idea is to really manage your money.
Remember you get dollas based on performance at the end of the year, and then dollas at the beginning of next season.
Contracts should be sent to me VIA email. I will put them into my excel sheet then before the season starts I can send that sheet to everyone. You can play with it and see what you have and the other contracts. It also contains a schedule for the year.
This SpreadSheet will keep the entire league on it.
I will Send you the rules GF as I have an Updated version that includes the DL revision.
A thing on Dollas, if we really feel that 20 is not enough we can look into possibly allowing more. I've talked about this at great extent with WG and Tony and some of the other guys, and it limits your moves quite a bit, but it makes you manage your money, which is the whole idea.
We won't have 17.5 Dolla bids going on for RFA I can tell you that much, it basically lets everyone stay competitive I think.
thoughts?
If anyone else wants an Updated copy of the Rules let me know.
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| 25 | Tree
ID: 31237176
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 15:04
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well, instead of increasing dollas, i'd prefer to see a series of "free" moves allowed.
1. you get three "free" DL moves - that includes moving the guy to the DL, adding someone new, and subsequently dropping someone when the original get active active again.
however. when the player gets off the real DL, you have 3 days to either drop him, or the player you added. if you drop anyone else, it doesn't qualify for a "free" DL move.
2. i'd like there to be a limited "free" add/drop period. like - maybe for all of April, you can adjust your roster and such with free add/drops.
however. when you add someone, they automatically assume the contract of the person you dropped. additionally, when you add someone, you cannot drop them. they are locked into that contract.
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| 26 | GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 15:39
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A. (Before the start of the season) In his last year, 4 of 4.
So what are my options? Cost involved?
B. (After the season) expired 4 of 4.
So what are my options? Cost involved?
Thanks
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| 27 | I hate philadelphia
ID: 290541416
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 18:43
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Ok I didn't realize we got another 20 dollas at teh beginning of
next year. Now everything works for me.
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| 28 | MikeyB
ID: 43116248
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 19:43
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Matt I sent my contracts, let me know if you got'em
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| 29 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 17:12
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Tree - Got your contracts, they look good... As for the free moves, I'll think about it.
Right now, it only costs 1 Dolla if you drop the original player you picked up off the DL, thats kinda the bonus.
I don't think we will do free ADD/Drop periods... I just don't like the sound of that, and I know that would cause problems, considering Yahoo won't be housing our league after the season, so it basically is done by who gets the move to me first... So if you email me and MikeyB IM's me, and I get the IM first, its like... too bad... So I'll have to think about this... but for right now its a no.
GF -
A. No options, a 4 year contract has to expire cannot be upgraded.
B. You may sign him to another contract for any length as long as you have the dollas, and 12 other guys enter RFA that year. As well as staying under the 50 CAP.
MikeyB - Got your contracts, look good.
Still waiting on a couple of contracts, I've talked to a few of you who are sending them shortly, but if you haven't talked to me I need your contracts.
I'm Asking for them so early so that 1. We can do moves, 2. If they don't work we can get them corrected before the start of the season.
thanks!
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| 30 | i hate philadelphia
ID: 360221120
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 17:45
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contracts sent
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| 31 | Tree
ID: 302171817
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 19:23
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considering Yahoo won't be housing our league after the season,
what do you mean?
I'm Asking for them so early so that 1. We can do moves,
what do you mean?
:o)
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| 32 | wazaaap_guy
ID: 11118812
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 19:55
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re 29
matt, do you mean after my 4 yr guy expires this year, and i match the high bid on him in rfa bidding, i can THEN sign him to any contract length...?
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| 33 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 21:14
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re 31 - When the year ends we won't have yahoo holding all our players and moves and everything... I'll do it with a spread sheet.
I want them early so that we can start making moves, trades etc... right now you cant add/drop a player until you get your contracts in. Also, remember all moves must come through me on Email.
re 32
No, when he expires, as long as you have 12 other expiring contracts you can resign him to any contract...
Guys you are making this harder than it has to be...
50 years cap
25 players
12 contracts that must expire and go into RFA every year.
If you have 14 contracts that expire that year, you may resign 2 of those guys before they go to RFA... the other 12 have to go to RFA...
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| 35 | Tree
ID: 302171817
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 21:17
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re 31 - When the year ends we won't have yahoo holding all our players and moves and everything... I'll do it with a spread sheet.
actually, Yahoo does hold players now. it doesn't hold roster moves, but it does save your players, standings, etc.
I want them early so that we can start making moves, trades etc... right now you cant add/drop a player until you get your contracts in. Also, remember all moves must come through me on Email.
that's why i was proposing the free period in April...
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| 36 | wiggs
ID: 322441819
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 21:54
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Matt Did you get my check yet?
Also I will have my contracts in probably tomorrow morning, or afternoon at the latest. I am trying to work something out.
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| 37 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 23:48
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I will send you my contracts sometime in the early AM. Been at work 17 of the last 24 hours.
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| 38 | GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 00:36
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Just got home.
Working on contracts, but having a few problems with
Cabrera contract. He wants more then five years deal
plus a signing bonus. ;P
Will finish tonite and send.
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| 39 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 06:57
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Tree - was unaware about that, I'll have to look into how this may benefit us.
Still don't know about this "free" period. It kinda rewards people for drafting really recklessly and then being able to swap players they don't want. IE you have Carl Pavano signed to a 3 year contract and it's the free period, so you can just cut his contract and pick up another? Kinda voids the whole point of contracts.
Wiggs - I do not have a check from you yet... when did you send it?
I got contracts from a bunch of you yesterday and this morning, thanks. For those of you remaining, we spoke and I know they are coming soon so that's fine.
I received a check from WG today which means that WG, MikeyB, Punk and JTSERB are paid. thank you!
I will have to count up who is delinquent and send my italian friend Tony to break your thumbs.
Any questions, email me.
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| 40 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 08:27
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Need Contracts From:
Tony
Fosten
Wiggs
-I talked to Tony I'll have his Wednesday when he gets to work, he got his wisdom teeth out... Fosten said he'd send them last night, Haven't received them yet. Wiggs, I am waiting on yours today. Thanks!
Wiating on Money from:
Tony
Fosten
Wiggs
-Wiggs mailed his, just hasn't been received. I will be picking up Tony's this weekend most likely. Either way, I will put his money in. Fosten, I have paypal or you can mail it in, which do you choose.
If I do not have your money by the start of the season, and we haven't made arrangements to get it, your team will not be valid until this is taken care of.
Is that fair? Probably not. Do I care? Nope, we've had well over a month.
In this case I'm only waiting on one person, which is decent.
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| 41 | wiggs
ID: 47228127
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 08:57
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sent it again via paypal. Cancelled the check.
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| 42 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 10:29
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wiggs, that's cool.. got it, and I'll rip up the check if I receive it.
thanks!
also got your contracts, looks good...
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| 43 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 10:46
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I say down with "Free waiver" period.
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| 44 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 10:51
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Still waiting on money and contracts from Tony and Fosten... I've made arrangements with Tony, but Fosten I need you to confirm with me how I am getting both of these.
You are risking the chance of your roster being invalid...
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| 45 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 12:53
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WG, did you cash the check i sent you? It hasnt come out of my account yet, just wanted to see what was up.
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| 46 | wazaaap_guy
ID: 11118812
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 14:20
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nope, havent cashed it yet... will when i fly home this weekend.
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| 47 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 02:26
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You need a bank account in PA
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| 48 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 09:03
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Got contracts from everyone but Fosten... money is accounted for from everyone but Fosten... Tony, he loses his left thumb...
thanks!
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| 49 | MikeyB
ID: 332412017
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 19:21
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Has anyone even heard from Fosten lately?
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| 50 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 19:28
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His Aim shows him as away, but I sent him an IM anyway telling him to get ahold of Matt.
Cliff
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| 51 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 19:32
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I talked to him the other day, he said he'd get them to me by the end of the week, which we are at right now...
I just wanna pass this sheet out so you all can see what I'm looking for. I also want to show all the money to you guys in the paypal account too
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| 52 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 22:04
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I'm just surprised we had a final pick in the draft ;'P
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| 53 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Sun, Mar 25, 2007, 20:06
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Fosten has paid... I'm picking up Tony's Money this weekend and I'll make one last deposit into PayPal.
His Rosters will be to me shortly.
I'll ship out the Excel Sheet when that happens...
Payouts are as follows:
Best Record $25
First Place $125
Second Player $75
Third Place $50
Fourth Place $25
Total = $300
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| 54 | Tree
ID: 432352510
Sun, Mar 25, 2007, 20:16
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by best record, do you mean the Regular season champ?
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| 55 | I hate philadelphia
ID: 290541416
Sun, Mar 25, 2007, 20:23
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Don't concern yourself with that I have it locked up. My first pick
turned into a 40-40 man over the winter.
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| 56 | wiggs
ID: 55013307
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 10:13
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Since
Justin upton isnt in the data base do i need to repick someone, or wait til he shows up?
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| 57 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 10:16
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We need to keep a spot open for the guys not in the database, if we pick someone else up through waivers then that negates our draft pick.
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| 58 | wiggs
ID: 55013307
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 10:17
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ok cool, thats what i thought, but another league i am in I was told if they werent in the database it was invalid. Thanks punk
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| 59 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 10:34
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Yeah that's the big diff between here and Poli. But in Poli that's because of the seperate Prospect Draft I think.
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| 60 | Tree
ID: 29082512
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 10:40
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yea, Wiggs - that's probably a league-by-league rule.
Justin Upton is a weird one though. it's very unlikely he'll be called up to the Majors this year, so i don't expect to see him in the Yahoo database.
he's starting the season in A ball, will probably finish up in AA, and *maybe* be called up before August, but it's not certain. that's a long time to keep a roster spot open - not just for memory sake, but for having your team be "short handed"...
also - and i think this is absolutely important to discuss now. the following is a list of players Matt posted that were not in the database:
Tony - Fla Matt Lindstrom RP
WG - NYY Philip Hughes SP
WG - Mil Yovani Gallardo SP
Punk - Tam Jeff Niemann SP
Wiggs - Ari Justin Upton OF
let's say Wiggs signs Upton to a 5-year deal. per the rules set in post four of this thread, if he picks someone up to fill that waiver roster spot, he loses his claim on Upton.
so - how does that work? does the person he picks up immediately assume that 5 year deal?
it seems to me that anything else would be patently unfair, as i can't just decide to drop a guy with a 5 year deal if i want (or, can i?)
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| 61 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 12:07
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Good point. I'd go with the view that if you pick up someone to fill that spot you auto-buy out the persons contract since that's the just of what you are doing. Using up the bones for that transaction. It was your choice to draft them, so don't see why there should be a freebee if they aren't able to play for you this year, or next for that matter.
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| 63 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 12:39
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To answer the questions:
1. If you have a Guy who is not in Yahoo and You choose to pick up someone else, you MUST pay for that. Simply because someone else could of drafted that player (Justin Upton for example) and signed him to a long term deal. I don't think it is fair to be able to draft him, sign him for 1 year after the initial draft for free to see if he comes up early, and then swap.
You made the choice to draft him, you gotta play by the contract rules...
2 dollas to buy out per contract year, 1 dolla for this year after June 1st...
thanks!
Also add Ryan Braun 3B, to the list above.
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| 64 | Tree
ID: 29082512
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 13:30
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Also add Ryan Braun 3B, to the list above.
that would be me. :o)
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| 65 | I hate Philadelphia
Donor
ID: 471592812
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 16:42
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I want to make some add drops, how do we go about that?
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| 66 | Tree
ID: 29082512
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 16:47
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you can't. seriously. you have to email Matt G to process them, and you lose money for doing so.
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| 67 | I hate Philadelphia
Donor
ID: 471592812
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 16:57
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yeah but when does that start and how exactly does it work?
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| 68 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 17:03
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Waiting on the contracts from everybody before I do anything.
Really need to know that to figure out what is up.
Also, as Tree said, gotta be careful of dolla's.
Cliff
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| 69 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 18:22
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It should start at any time you want it to. But it eats away at your Dolla's. You signed a guy to 1 year want to release him and pick up someone else believe that's 3 Dolla's.
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| 70 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 21:45
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Sending out the Contracts tomorrow, Fosten still hasnt gotten his in, which is BS... but I'm sending them anyhow... they are on my USB key on the other side of the room, but the gym was very rough tonight...
I'll update his afterwards...
When you do a move... and you can do them now, you can do it on Yahoo, and email me at the same time... that way I can change the dollas. Just be sure that you dont use too many...
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| 71 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 08:32
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Spread Sheet sent out to all buy fosten. If you didn't get it, either I don't have your updated email address or you didnt check your email, let me know.
thanks!
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| 72 | Tree
ID: 29082512
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 08:52
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Matt -
i was under the impression, and it seemed to be backed up in the original discussion thread, that we were allowed a maximum of two 5-year deals.
one owner appears to have three.
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| 73 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 12:21
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If you check the rules that were sent out in the NBBL Rules.doc file, it clearly states in there that the only restrictions are MINIMUM of 1 5 year guy and 12 expiring contracts, 25 guys, 50 Dolla Cap.
Here is the contracts Section directly from the updated rules.
Contracts
Done in years, 5 through 1.
You MUST have at least 1 5 year and 12 EXPIRING contracts. That means that in year 2 you may have expiring contracts from your 2 year guys(2007-2009) who count towards that… Remember 12 is the MINIMUM. So you can have more than that if you don’t re-sign. The key is the YEAR that the contract expires… In season 2 you can have guys who expire that year who are 2 year guys and guys who you signed after year one who expire in year 3… The year is key… The end of the 2007 season is 2008. So 1 year contracts signed in 2007 are 2007-2008. 2 Year contracts are 2007-2009. If you sign a 2 year contract after the 2007 season, that contract is 2008-2010.
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| 74 | wazaaap_guy
ID: 6830712
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 14:33
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howard, cain, and felix are all sick... how could i not make them 5s?
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| 75 | Tree
ID: 29082512
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 15:20
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Matt -
in this thread, it was discussed, particularly in posts 73 to 78.
that discussion came after the rules were sent, and that's what i went with.
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| 76 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 17:10
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i thought that it was max 2 5 year guys as well.
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| 77 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 17:14
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is it possible to allow us to make some changes to our contracts since there was a misunderstanding? I thought it was max 2 5s and 2 4s, so that was how i sent it. I think i even said in the email I wish I could have 1 more guy for 4 years.
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| 78 | Tree
ID: 29082512
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 17:23
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exactly. i think i might have done mine differently as well.
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| 79 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 19:03
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No where in that did I say "Max of 2 5 year guys."
Goatlocker said that, but he was incorrect...
Yes in Post 78 I said, "GL is correct, it's just giving us more flexibility than what WPFB did... I think" however I was ONLY referring to Post 77 where GL says "The key is 25 Players total, 50 contract years max, at least 12 expiring contracts each year."
The rules as stated in the NBBL Rules.doc is what you should of gone by this entire time, that's why it was sent out to everyone, and when I did the revisions it was sent out again. I NEVER changed the Contracts part of the Rules... So there was no reason to believe otherwise.
Simply put, GL isn't the commish, so when he says "max of 2 years" it means nothing, no offense to him. Unless it is added officially to the rules, and it has never been added to the rules, you have to go by the document which was sent out.
However, I am reasonable and I can see how you could be confused, even though it's clear that majority of the league understood that the rules as stated in the doc were the rules.
You have until Saturday at midnight EST to get your contracts to me VIA email. If it is in my inbox 1 minute late, im keeping the ones you have currently I will be sending out a league wide email... dicussing these rules.
also adding a penalty for late contracts and late moves and such. Please look for that in the rules.
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| 80 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 19:35
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Rules Send.
Also here is a link to them via Google Documents and Spreadsheets.
thanks!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddw85pd2_6gsmc9b
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| 81 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 19:46
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Contracts are here
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pZTV6WskHYkYUhd7TYZTEBw
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| 82 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 19:48
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Oh an by Saturday at Midnight I mean 11:59 Saturday...
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| 83 | wiggs
ID: 60103021
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 20:09
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fair decision Matt. Thank you.
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| 84 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 22:13
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Your welcome.
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| 85 | Tree, at his folks
ID: 59943416
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 23:00
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Matt - i appreciate that ruling. so far, i think you're a helluva commish - stern, but fair. :o)
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| 86 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 08:37
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Thanks guys.
I gotta take some stance on things, if I'm too flimsey then the league will be run like crap. I just wish I'd come up with the penalty of Dollas for late days before this season so that Fosten would of felt compelled to get his contracts in on time. But that's ok, if they aren't in to me By Saturday night, he loses opening day.
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| 87 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 11:45
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I dont know if there is anything that we can do, but it does seem alittle unfair to have him forfeit opening day. All that is really doing is giving whoever he plays 10 free wins and a commanding lead for the start of the season. Maybe a stricter dolla penalty, or something like that would be a better option. Or maybe he should just send his contracts.
Ohhh, What if we just assign all his players to 1 year deals if they arent in by sat. you cant assume who would get better contracts then others.
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| 88 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 12:32
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Matt Lindstrom is now in the database, I've added him to Tony's roster.
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| 89 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 15:34
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Fosten's contracts are in... Of course they were wrong as he forgot to designate at least 1 5 year guy. So I designated Vlad as his 5 year guy. He has until Saturday night to change like everyone else.
thanks!
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| 90 | wiggs
ID: 60103021
Fri, Mar 30, 2007, 16:12
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i am going to be away at the turning stone all weekend so I just wanted to make sure you got my new contracts?
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| 91 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Fri, Mar 30, 2007, 16:23
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Wiggs, i replied to your email and updated them on the link that I provided above...
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| 92 | wiggs
ID: 60103021
Fri, Mar 30, 2007, 16:24
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sounds good. Thanks
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| 93 | wiggs
ID: 60103021
Fri, Mar 30, 2007, 16:25
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it isnt updated matt. Still showing 49 years.
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| 94 | Matt G
ID: 81052212
Fri, Mar 30, 2007, 16:25
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you just changed D lee from a 3 to a 4 correct?
I havent received anything from tree... Remember that deadline is tomorrow night 11:59pm.
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| 95 | wiggs
ID: 60103021
Fri, Mar 30, 2007, 16:34
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yes that is all. thanks
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| 96 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Sat, Mar 31, 2007, 09:39
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It was supposed to republish automatically but it didn't. Don't worry I have your move in my email and on the master spread sheet on my usb key, so we are good...
midnight tonight, in my inbox... season starts tomorrow... if you dont see it on the links I provided dont worry it will be there by tomorrow night
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| 97 | Tree
ID: 582392917
Sat, Mar 31, 2007, 11:44
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i screwed up and left my grid on my home computer...i'm on vacation now with my laptop, so i guess my contracts are my contracts... :o/
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| 98 | Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 31, 2007, 12:08
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Can't you look on the site Matt has up and just do changes by lookin at that Tree?
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| 99 | I hate philadelphia
ID: 290541416
Sat, Mar 31, 2007, 15:23
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Me too Tree, where you at? I'm in Phoenix myself.
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| 100 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sat, Mar 31, 2007, 17:17
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Tree,
Give me an email address and I can send you the contracts.
Cliff
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| 101 | Matt G @ Tony's
ID: 362271015
Sat, Mar 31, 2007, 17:48
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Tree, you can check the contracts on the google page... They are located here... See this is the beauty of Google Docs, I can publish these for you and you can just email me the changes.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pZTV6WskHYkYUhd7TYZTEBw
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| 102 | Matt G @ Tony's
ID: 362271015
Sat, Mar 31, 2007, 18:05
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GF I saw your moves on Yahoo, that cost you 3 bones.
-2 to buy out Donnelly's Contract
-1 to pick up Glavine.
thanks!
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| 103 | Tree
ID: 582392917
Sun, Apr 01, 2007, 11:25
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well, guess i missed that deadline. i'm basically doing three wrestling shows in three days, including wrestlemania tonight, so i'm not on my computer all that much.
a lot more beer than keyboard action this weekend. much, much more. lol....
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| 104 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sun, Apr 01, 2007, 12:56
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Tree,
Have fun.
Understand the beer part.
Cliff
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| 105 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Sun, Apr 01, 2007, 17:06
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Guys when you make moves PLEASE email me as it makes it easier to make sure that the spreadsheet is up to date and that your Dollas are correct...
On that note, I hate philly, your moves are recorded. thanks!
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| 106 | I hate philadelphia
ID: 290541416
Sun, Apr 01, 2007, 17:15
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Matt those moves were free correct?
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| 107 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Sun, Apr 01, 2007, 18:18
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No they cost you 1 dolla each, why would they be free?
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| 108 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Sun, Apr 01, 2007, 18:43
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New Thread is here.
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=basest&thread=7396&last=1175474109
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| 109 | I hate philadelphia
ID: 290541416
Sun, Apr 01, 2007, 20:06
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I thought picking up players on for those on the DL was free?
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| 110 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Sun, Apr 01, 2007, 20:12
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no, read the rules.
Picking up players for a DL movement is 1 dolla.
If when the player you put on the dl comes back you drop the player you picked up there is no charge for that.
There are NO free moves...
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| 111 | Matt G
ID: 561039520
Sun, Apr 01, 2007, 20:18
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Here is the DL explanation right from the rules.
DL: 1 Dolla, you can pick up a player with this move, HOWEVER when player comes off DL in MLB, if you drop the player you picked up, it is at no cost. If you drop the player you DLd you must pay 2 dollas per contract year to buy him out… It is only 1 bone for that same year if after June 1. If you drop a 3rd player you must pay 1 dolla to complete the original DL move and buy the contract out of player 3. You can also put another player on the DL and keep the first two players for 1 dolla. In this case, the player that you originally picked up is still counted as the pickup and if you drop him after all said and done, there is no additional penalty. All DL and Roster Moves must be reported to the Commish VIA email for Contract and Roster validation purposes.
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