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Subject: RIBC AAA: PCL Regular Season Discussion

Posted by: Species - Dude [07724916] Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 17:37

Moving from a draft/preseason discussion thread to a regular season thread. From the last thread:

If you guys get a chance, check out Guru's RIBC consolidated draft summary. It's interesting to see where other guys went during the draft. If you wondered whether or not you "reached", you can find your answer there. It has a "min" pick (i.e. earliest that player was taken) and a "max" pick (being the latest they were taken) along with an average.

If you were FIRST to pick compared to the other 4 RIBC drafts, then yeah you have to worry. Conversely, if you snagged someone later than all the rest, you feel good. I'm both guilty of 'reaching' early and grabbing late:

Picked before all other RIBC drafts:
Scott Rolen
Freddy Garcia
Anibal Sanchez
Pat Neshek

Picked after all other RIBC drafts:
Ian Kisler
Dave Roberts
Jim Edmonds
Kerry Wood

I don't feel too bad about Rolen and Neshek as Rolen would've been gone one pick later as well as Neshek. Can't defend Garcia too much other than me liking his WHIP and hoping the whole "From AL to NL" BS works out.

Still, interesting to review.

JeffG - you can go ahead and release Jorge Sosa if you'd like and leave the spot open for Sammy.

Smith32
ID: 401151818
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 19:58

Wow, I really shouldn't have looked at that draft summary. Maybe Beckett will win the Cy Young and make me feel better about overpaying for him. Interesting stuff though - very helpful for upcoming drafts.

MBT
ID: 46917216
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 22:32

Very interesting to see that my MR run wasn't that unusual. My pick position is in parentheses:

Zumaya ADP 12.12 (11.02)
Shields ADP 13.13 (12.15)
Duchscherer ADP 16.03 (13.02)

Somebody took Duch in the 10th. I was the first to take Zumaya and Shields, but it looks like overall I only grabbed them about 1 round too early on average.

C1-NRB
ID: 17348117
Mon, Mar 26, 2007, 23:08

I knew I had a bad OF. This just shows that not only are they not that great, I over payed for all of them. I think I picked each and every one of them the earliest.

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 00:06

MBT,
I don't think anyone was really bashing you about the guys you picked... I think it's somewhat unusual that you would have used three picks in a row on them, however. I like all three of those guys, and perhaps having them will really help out. Again, I don't think that's really in doubt either...

For my own part, it's pure jealousy, to be honest...

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 00:19

allhair with an early lead on the "most creative dig at the commish" award with the essay-writing assignment crack - very good! lmao

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 00:58

Thought you might get a kick out of that... ;)

MBT
ID: 3321279
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 11:10

Never said anyone was bashing the picks. I don't regret taking Zumaya or Shields but if I had been actively drafting instead of using a single Q for 8-9 rounds I would have taken Duch later and gone after a stronger SP instead, most notably Dan Cabrera, Ervin Santana or Boof Bonser.

MBT
ID: 3321279
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 11:31

First to take:

Glaus, H. Matsui, Borowski, Zumaya, Shields, Dellucci, Scott, Rivera

Last to take:

D. Lee, Sabathia, R. Johnson, Betancourt, Blanton and next to last to take Pedroia

Seems to indicate I was quite a trend setter ;)

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 15:26

According to Guru's consolidated draft stats, 15 of my 25 picks and 5 of my first 10 picks were taken sooner than the average. By this standard I am either an astute judge of talent, or I will be making significant use of the waiver wire this season.

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 17:13

I'm not so worried about taking higher than the average - just more concerned about the real "reach" of taking him before any other league. I think those drafters towards either end will, by osmosis, perhaps be more guilty of that than anyone - most of my 'reaches' were in the odd-numbered round when I had the 3rd pick in that round and had 26 picks until my next one - thus if you want a player you have to grab him or say sayonara.

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 17:13

Make that - most of my reaches were in the even-numbered rounds.

Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 19:01

Wow, I was the last to take a player on my odd-numbered rounds 4 straight picks 5.10 - 11.10 (Roberts,King Felix,Uggla,and Burnett). of course with 13.10 I was first to take Jacobs...

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 06:34

Species - Yahoo has added the unlisted player I drafted, Matt Lindstrom. Please go into managers functions and change his waiver date to 'Free Agent', and I can add him to my roster. Of course, his rotisserie value is down now that the Marlins aquired Julio.

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 22:35

Done, JeffG.

Still several recaps missing. Don't make me assign extra credit homework! ;-)

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 13:09

Species-Yahoo added Sammy Sosa. Please change his status to FA so I may add him to my roster.

Coincidence or responsiveness?
I emailed Yahoo yesterday asking that Sosa be added to the data base, and today he was available.

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 14:23

Done and placed on your team.

I also made Hermanson a free agent but forgot who drafted him. That team can pick him up at any time.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 16:05

Thanks!!

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 17:19

Species-My team page still has Jorge instead of Sammy Sosa, however when I do a player search, Sammy is on my team. Please check. Thanks!!

MBT
ID: 21202220
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 17:25

On your team page click on tomorrow's date. He should show up.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 18:30

Thanks, I will.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Fri, Mar 30, 2007, 13:14

Dustin Hermanson belongs to Cobwebs by the way.

Al Reyes (ksoze) is now also Yahoo listed if you want to reset his waiver and have him picked up.

Andrew, allhair, and Toral --> don't forget to set your lineup. You still have everyone on the bench.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Sun, Apr 01, 2007, 11:56

I see ksoze picked up the unlisted player he drafted, Al Reyes, on waivers. Commish Species will need reset waiver priorities.

Play ball!

Good luck everyone.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Tue, Apr 03, 2007, 10:42

Yahoo has a neat new chart on the bottom of their league standings page.

It is too early to be useful after one day, but it may be useful later on.

It has a vertical number line showing the standings for each category where the top and bottom are the high and low, and then a line indicating where each person stands. Gives you an idea visually of how secure your current placing is in each category, and how many are in reach to pass.

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Tue, Apr 03, 2007, 12:16

That's cool. I wouldn't have scrolled down that far, so I wouldn't have ever seen it.

MBT
ID: 2933467
Fri, Apr 06, 2007, 09:36

I'm looking for a CI or a SP. I'd be willing to move one of my OF or MI for the right offer. I'd be most interested in someone with 3B eligibility.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Apr 06, 2007, 16:05

MBT-My offer is still available if you are interested.-l

MBT
ID: 21202220
Sat, Apr 07, 2007, 09:25

Thanks, but like I said my biggest priority would be the corner IF. Your offer was fair, but I'm not ready to make that move yet.

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 01:32

Looks like Eldred played today but Yahoo doesnt have him available.
just wanted to alert the comish that he was my 25th pick when Yahoo make him available

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 13:32

Weykool-Email Yahoo's customer service for fantasy sports. Coincidence or not Sosa was added the day after I contacted Yahoo.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 13:36

Yahoo added players

Once the season starts, Yahoo traditionally automatically adds new players to the database on the morning following their first MLB appearance.

Looks like Eldred is now there, you just need the commish to reset the waiver date so you can pick him up.

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 20:37

Eldred is there now......what do I need to do?

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 22:11

Weykool - You can't do anything until Species wipes out Eldred's waiver date using his commissioner powers. Send him an email. Once the waiver date is reset, you can pick up Eldred and he'll be on your next day roster.

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 22:15

Thanks Jeff.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Tue, Apr 10, 2007, 09:16

Weykool/Species - Re: Eldred pickup.

Everything updated fine on the roster but it looks like the pickup of Eldred was processed as a waiver pickup. Species will have to update Weykool's waiver priority. Other people have made waiver moves, so you cannot reset everyone back to inverse draft order. Based on the fact he has not made a waiver move, Weykool should be re-slotted right between Loki and Smith32.

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Tue, Apr 10, 2007, 10:30

Actually I did make a Waiver move.
I picked up Pelfry off waivers.
Then MTB picked up a player so I should be reset to #15.

JL
ID: 443401413
Sat, Apr 14, 2007, 15:43

Unbelievably bad start for my offense.

Manny: OPS under .600

Teixeira: OPS under .600

Zimmerman: OPS barely above .500

Crisp: OPS under .400

Frank Thomas: OPS under .600

MBT
ID: 31353167
Mon, Apr 16, 2007, 09:54

Today is a very special occasion that must be marked. Today is the one day of the season that I'm in first place in the PCL League, stay tuned for changes starting tomorrow ;)

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Mon, Apr 16, 2007, 10:09

I think everybody should get a couple of days in the top slot.
I think I'll save my next turn until September 30.

MBT
ID: 31353167
Mon, Apr 16, 2007, 13:36

I agree with the "everybody should get a couple days at the top" concept. It's a real ego boost and makes you think you did something right on draft day, at least for a day.

Smith32
ID: 401151818
Tue, Apr 17, 2007, 21:57

I think everyone should get a few days in the basement. My turn is up. Who's next?

MBT
ID: 41351910
Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 12:07

It's Thursday and I'm still in first? Did I miss those flying pigs? Wait a minute, I think a monkey just came out of my .... never mind, false alarm.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Tue, Apr 24, 2007, 02:37

Species -

There is a new commisioner feature called EDIT LEAGUE HISTORY. If you want to set it up, for each year, it will allow you to select all related RIBC leagues from past seasons. When completed there will be an "ALL TIME" tab under standings.

Now we could see all the RIBC leagues history in one place.

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Fri, Apr 27, 2007, 09:08

Is April too early to quit?
Someday my hitters will start hitting... I think. Until then, what?

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Fri, Apr 27, 2007, 09:30

It is still too early to get too concerned. It does not take much to get a jump in the standings. I was in 14th place about 10 days ago, now I am in 3rd. I think most of my movement in ERA and WHIP was related to my stats standing still but alot of people having their ERA and WHIP take a nose dive in recent days.

By the way, I spent at least a couple hours yesterday trying to decide whether to use my #3 waiver priorirty to make a claim on Phil Hughes. I was not sure if after his next start if he'd even have a slot in Yankee the rotation and may be back in the minors. So I was debating the gamble. It was all moot since darkside yanked him with a higher waiver priority.

In my case, sometimes a good waiver slot is a negative because it makes it that much harder to decide whether to pull the trigger.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Apr 27, 2007, 12:01

I also had a waiver claim on Hughes, and it is likely that other managers from the NY area or those who follow the NYYs did too. Of the two NY teams the Yankees usually do not overestimate their pitching prospects as do the Mets. It was a good pick up.

darkside
ID: 181035120
Fri, Apr 27, 2007, 17:18

It wasn't too hard of a decision for me to use my priority. There aren't going to be too many prospects called up this year (especially this early) who are as good as Hughes. Obviously the problem is whether he'll stay up. But, I'm thinking he's safe to either stay up, or not be sent back down for long. The Yankees rotation is far too suspect to let his talent stay in the minors.

It was a different story in my AL H2H league (puget sound) since it's not uncommon for a star to get traded from the NL to AL. I decided to save my #1 priority in that league for Clemens or this year's Carlos Lee.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, May 06, 2007, 14:13

Darkside-I have had either LaRoche or Loney on my team, but decided that Loney had more potential. LA promoted LaRoche first to replace Betemit even though he is batting only .235 in the minors, because Loney has not duplicated his spring training or his 2006 MLB stats. If Laroche is doesn't hit, LA may play Garciaparra at 3rd and Loney at 1st. (I hope!!)-l

darkside
ID: 181035120
Sun, May 06, 2007, 19:16

Figured it was worth a shot to grab him. I don't see him getting to the bigs and all of a sudden finding his stroke, but he did hit a GR double today, so that's a good sign. Betemit delivered a PH HR too, so if he steps it up LaRoche may not get much time, especially if he doesn't hit right off the bat. I can't imagine Loney will keep hitting so poorly in Vegas. It's tough keeping someone who doesn't play regularly on our roster with such a short bench. You've had good patience this season. It's paid off with Lincecum (or so I assume since I think he'll do well).

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Thu, May 10, 2007, 23:07

Last laugh is on me. An excerpt from 3.13 rationale where I selected BJ Ryan rational as the 3rd closer taken in the draft.

...I rated BJ Ryan a little higher than Mo (and Wags) because I feel like I'll get a few more Ks from BJ and he is less of a DL risk then either of the New York teams "sandman".

Ryan has been on the DL since 4/15. He underwent Tommy John surgery and is out the rest of the year.

Oh well.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, May 11, 2007, 15:14

Perhaps a "Last laugh is on me" aka "I can't believe I made that pick" thread is in order.
From my rationales for 1.05 and 2.12:

Rational for 1st round pick Soriano:
It was a toss up between Soriano and Arod, but I chose Soriano because of the combination of power and SBs

Rational for 2nd round pick Ichiro:
Chosen for his SBs. Of course over 100 runs each season helped me to decide on Ichiro for my 2nd round pick

Soriano: SBs-3, SLG-.486
Ichiro: SBs-2, R-19

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, May 11, 2007, 16:44

I can play that game:

Abreu 2.05: Abreu's gaudy OBP and 100/100 run/rbi potential combined with 25+ steals made him the 5 category stud I wanted. I really debated between him and Sizemore...
Abreu: .325 OBP, .309(!!) SLG

Webb 3.14: Webb can be counted on for 210+ IP of solid 3.35 or better ERA and a whip in the low 1.20's.
Webb: 3.75 ERA and 1.38 WHIP (just NOT worth 3rd round!)

Konerko 4.04: I really waffled between Konerko and Vernon Wells. I felt I needed to take the most reliable SLG guy off the board.
Konerko: .289 OBP, .361 SLG
Wells: .341/.484

Rolen 5.14: Most projections put him in the .890 OPS range, and I'm optimistic he will exceed those projections.
Rolen: .266 OBP/.310 SLG for .576 OPS! lmfao!

Lidge 6.04: So I decided I would take my first closer and narrowed my choices down to Lidge and Chris Ray. In the end I went on some faith that Brad Lidge's 2006 was a fluke and that he will return to past glory.

The only reason I'm not in dead last is that since these picks I got Bonds (8th), Kinsler (9th) and Peralta (10th) for some pretty good mid round value. It's pretty funny re-reading one's rationales. We sure make up some funny stuff trying to justify our picks!!!

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Wed, May 23, 2007, 09:08

Someday my hitters will start hitting... I think. Until then, what?

Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about! I needed a morale boost. I hope you get one soon too, Smith32.

Smith32
ID: 401151818
Sat, May 26, 2007, 12:40

How about this for rationale humor:

Jason Kendall (25.07) - "Kendall is good for OBP, runs, and SB, but horrendous in RBI and SLG."

I think he's pretty much horrendous in everything (although he has 3 SB!), and I am seriously considering leaving the C spot empty. I'm not sure Kendall's counting stats offset what he's doing to my averages with his .200 SLG.

MBT
ID: 2151919
Fri, Jun 01, 2007, 10:20

The injury bug has finally started to attack my team. Five guys down with injury and Glaus could flounder at any minute. The ride was nice while it lasted ;)

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Fri, Jun 01, 2007, 10:33

FYI, I saved our standings, IP, player logs for AB, etc on May 1 and I am compiling 'May only' standings (of course I have all that info at home). I'll try to post the results tonight or tomorrow and try to make it a regular first of the month post.

C1-NRB
ID: 17348117
Fri, Jun 01, 2007, 10:37

I don't want to see, especially if you have an April to compare it to.

MBT
ID: 2151919
Fri, Jun 01, 2007, 12:31

Sounds like good stuff Jeff, thanks for the extra work.

Da Bomb
ID: 29432123
Fri, Jun 01, 2007, 17:42

I'm looking to trade a closer for a slugger.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Sun, Jun 03, 2007, 00:34

First - standings for April only

Overall League Standings as of June 1 thru 5/30.

Standings for May 2007 only

Sorry I had to load as JPG. I was having probs loading tables. Also Excel does not rank ties like Yahoo does so the info is not exact for those who tied a category in May.

Andrew
ID: 25449720
Wed, Jun 13, 2007, 15:16

I'm looking to trade a corner infielder. I have LaRoche, Bruan, Tracy, Hatteberg and hopefully a producing Loney. I'm also going to be listening to offers for Chad Cordero. I'm looking for an OF or a MI. Maybe a 2 for 2 deal or individual trades. Just LMK. Send me an e-mail or a trade offer.

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Wed, Jun 13, 2007, 15:21

I'll take a CI off your hands if you'd like.
Let me know what it will take to sweeten the pot.

Andrew
ID: 25449720
Thu, Jun 14, 2007, 16:00

I'm weighing a few different offers right now and considering some possible counter-proposals to make as well. If anybody else has an offer thats cool too.

C1-NRB- would you be willing to move Hudson in a deal?

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Thu, Jun 14, 2007, 16:20

I'll see what I can put together.

MBT
ID: 0534158
Fri, Jun 15, 2007, 09:35

Congrats to Allhair on a nice run lately. Now go away ;)

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Wed, Jun 27, 2007, 16:10

Toral - I'm looking to shake things up and sent you a trade proposal. Your roster's strengths are my weaknesses. Please check it out before I come to my senses ;)

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Wed, Jul 04, 2007, 00:25

Well, with the tailspin I'm in, I'm sure it won't help, but at least I know I've done ONE thing right this season. I had Wilkerson in my lineup for his three HR night. I thought for sure that Murphy's Law was in effect and he was on my bench.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Wed, Jul 04, 2007, 00:35

JefG: Incredibly busy couple of weeks -- church national synod, our national holiday (Now is yours, eh?)

Trade offer not there -- if still interesteds, resend.

Toral

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 10:05

After starting the season with barely enough Outfielders to field a team, I now find myself with a plethora of them. The right offer could get someone a two-for-one.

JL
ID: 13610617
Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 18:12

Ouch. I've been protecting a nice little ERA of 3.08 for the last few weeks....then Jon Garland goes into his start today with an ERA of 3.15...and proceeds to give up 11 earned runs in 3 innings. Wow.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 22:46

Overall League Standings as of July 1 thru 6/30.

Standings for June 2007 only

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 10:35

Yahoo! is offering free Stattracker if you register with mycokerewards.

I've been registered with mycokerewards for about a year so I don't get squat. I'd even be willing to use some of my reward points to buy access, but it isn't an option.

Andrew
ID: 25449720
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 02:22

I'm not going to lie... this feels like the end to any shot I might have had at first place.

Still looking for a middle infielder or an Outfielder...Cordero is available and in the right deal my CI are as well.

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 08:21

Looking to deal A-Rod for pitching.
Need W,K,ERA,WHIP

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Wed, Aug 01, 2007, 23:10

Overall League Standings as of August 1 thru 7/31.

Standings for July 2007 only

MBT
ID: 18745915
Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 16:46

My team's become a bunch of second half dirt suckers.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Fri, Aug 10, 2007, 14:40

I've just accepted a trade which, the trade page said, won't be reflected in our lineups till Monday, the day after the trading deadline.

I presume the trade will go through. Anyone had this situation happen before in Yahoo!

Do we need to have the commissioner process the trade earlier (not today) to be safe?

Toral

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 10:35

This just in...
Even this late in the season 13 2/3 shut out innings will help your ERA.

That is all.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 09:20

...19 RBI in one night help too!

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 08:59

I think I am at my high water mark since April by climbing into 5th place with last night's action (by a mere half point). With just over a month to go, it looks like JL and allhair will be tough to catch for the 1 and 2 slots as they battle for the league title, and perhaps 5 of us have a shot at the number 3 slot which gets an invite to RIBC next year.

Smith32
Sustainer
ID: 139592519
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 12:18

Jeff - Besides me, who are the 4 who have a shot at #3?

JL
ID: 6753015
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 16:05

Things have gotten very interesting in the standings in the last couple of days....

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 23:43

Overall League Standings as of September 1 thru 8/31.

Standings for August 2007 only

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 00:02

I've never wished I'd made a free agent pickup 12 hours sooner so much in my life. I picked up Buckholz this morning figuring that if he did well tonight I might get a couple of starts out of him. I'm sure they won't be of the same quality as tonight's.

JL
ID: 14844212
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 13:44

I've lost 12 points in the standings in the last week.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 10:05

With a week and a half to go, the battle for the top spot, and the top-3 is getting interesting!

loki
ID: 368182221
Sat, Sep 22, 2007, 22:22

I'm just trying to stay out of the bottom 3 and relegation to AA in 2008. These efforts should have some impact on the top 3.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 09:50

Our own pennant race is just as intteresting as the NL pennant races are turning out to be. I went from my personal high water mark of 2nd place 2 days ago back to 5th. JL has had a killer week so far offensively and overtook Slackjawed Yokels last night. Allhair is still in the mix. Andrew (who has not touched his team in over a month) is on autopilot and still holding his ground, now in 4th. I'm doing the daily pitching overtweaking for K and W but it has cost me a point and a half in ERA and WHIP placement.

My hope is, I'm part of a 4 way tie for SB, and just dropped out of a 4 way tie in OBP by dropping my OBP one thousandths of a point below the other 3. I think me finishing in the league top 3 will require me finishing on the top of both of those log jams.

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 10:46

Rank	Team	R	RBI	SB	OBP	SLG	W	SV	K	ERA	WHIP	Total
1	JL	14.5	12	3	16	14	4	16	4	15	16	114.5
2	slackjawed yokels	16	6	16	5	12	14	4	12	14	10.5	109.5
3	JeffG AAA	13	14	5.5	8.5	15	4	15	14	11	8.5	108.5
4	Andrew's Athletes	6	10	7	14	16	10	1	13	13	13.5	103.5
5	allhair goes yard	10.5	16	12.5	6.5	10	15	6	10	10	5.5	102
6	darkside of the moon	10.5	9	14	12	4.5	8	13	16	5	3	95
7	who is ksoze?	1	4	9	15	6	13	11	6	12	13.5	90.5
8	Da Bomb Squad	9	8	4	13	13	6	14	3	7	10.5	87.5
8	Weykool	8	11	15	3.5	11	12	12	11	2	2	87.5
10	Toral Wheatfarmers	5	2	1	11	3	16	5	9	16	15	83
11	Hoboken Zephers	12	13	11	1	7.5	11	2	15	1	1	74.5
12	MBT Popouts	7	7	12.5	8.5	7.5	9	7	5	3	5.5	72
13	Cobwebs	14.5	15	8	2	9	1	8.5	1	4	5.5	68.5
14	Smith32	4	3	2	6.5	4.5	7	10	8	8	8.5	61.5
15	Concho Renegades	3	5	10	3.5	1	4	8.5	2	9	5.5	51.5
16	Endangered Species	2	1	5.5	10	2	2	3	7	6	12	50.5
Overall Stats
		Batting					Pitching
Rank	Team	R	RBI	SB	OBP	SLG	W	SV	K	ERA	WHIP
1	JL	1029	973	108	0.36	0.459	70	103	984	3.53	1.22
2	slackjawed yokels	1052	897	190	0.346	0.456	89	56	1094	3.69	1.32
3	JeffG AAA	1024	983	114	0.35	0.465	70	86	1107	3.99	1.34
4	Andrew's Athletes	957	948	118	0.356	0.473	84	25	1106	3.8	1.26
5	allhair goes yard	999	1018	148	0.349	0.453	91	66	1031	4.09	1.35
6	darkside of the moon	999	944	167	0.353	0.434	78	80	1145	4.27	1.37
7	who is ksoze?	871	882	131	0.357	0.439	88	73	993	3.87	1.26
8	Da Bomb Squad	993	932	113	0.354	0.458	76	84	955	4.18	1.32
8	Weykool	967	966	180	0.344	0.454	87	78	1045	4.52	1.4
10	Toral Wheatfarmers	953	846	91	0.352	0.43	99	58	1029	3.5	1.24
11	Hoboken Zephers	1012	978	145	0.339	0.448	86	38	1127	4.8	1.43
12	MBT Popouts	964	922	148	0.35	0.448	81	68	986	4.44	1.35
13	Cobwebs	1029	1014	127	0.34	0.449	68	69	921	4.34	1.35
14	Smith32	922	879	104	0.349	0.434	77	70	1009	4.12	1.34
15	Concho Renegades	893	883	135	0.344	0.424	70	69	943	4.11	1.35
16	Endangered Species	888	822	114	0.351	0.428	69	54	1000	4.19	1.3

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 10:47

Congrats JL !

Thanks to all for a fun season. I may post my 'retrospective' later.

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 16:26

My apologies for being an absentee Commish. Not cool, and I will take my shame to AA and perhaps face greater punishment by Guru.

Thanks to all who stepped up and stayed active in the discussions.

I'll say hi to Ozzie Smith for you.

Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 425869
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 21:57

Congrats JL.

quite a fight to the finish. I was checking the top 5's stats every night as things were so close and it seemed it was anyone's to win.

JL
ID: 36953121
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 23:55

Thanks

I've never seen an ending quite like that.

allhair allstars
ID: 25922122
Tue, Oct 02, 2007, 00:22

Congrats to JL and the other qualifiers... it was a fun season, despite the finish (IMO!)... LOL

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Fri, Oct 12, 2007, 15:00

Some in other leagues are doing recaps. Here's mine.

Drafting goals - (from draft recap thread) Pre draft I was shooting for .355 OBP, .468 SLG, 986 RBI, 1036 R, 139 SB. 4.32 ERA, 1.34 WHIP, 1096 K, 87W, 75 SV, which I figured would yield about an '11' at each slot. It turned out these projections ended up being very close in 8 of the 10 categories in being the stats needed to score an 11. I used different free projections available tried to pick guys who would help my team accumulate those goals. My team surprisingly pretty much hit the ballpark for those projections on all counts.

Draft Strategy (also from my post in the draft recap thread).
- Not waiting too long to fill MI positions even if there is a better player on the board in other positions. Did not want to have happen to me what always seemed to burn me in prior years where I get a few stats drainers with the leftover scraps at those spots very late in the draft. I got very lucky in that two of the MI I took, Iguchi in Rd 10 and Hardy in Rd 17, I would say exceeded the expectations of that draft position.
- Also took a different approach than prior years, this year I wanted to first focus pitching on closers (ERA WHIP and SV guys), then back fill with starters 3rd tier and lower once the main closers are gone. Even losing my RD3 pick BJ Ryan to injury, having Jenks and Jones on the roster helped me finish high in saves, although Jones for a closer expectedly had very lame ERA WHIP and K numbers. With my 3rd tier starters and worse, I was hurting in wins all season as I only had 2 staters who got more than 7 wins for me this season. I only scored a 4 in this category.
- Steals. I never like drafting 1-dimentional pure steals guys, so I always look to take players who can get a dozen or so steals. 5 players on my team gave me decent double-digit steals plus a couple more in the high single digits helped my finish middle of the pack. It would have been higher if I did not trade Sizemore mid season, but the trade helped me in other areas.

In season Strategy
- Other than the obvious don't leave a dud on the active team too long, I really thought it improtant to watch the innings and make sure the all get used up to help in the W and K counting numbers. I think only half of us hit the IP max. For me maxing out late helped me finish with a 14 in K's (moved up 6 slots in K I believe in last 2 weeks) If I could have gotten lucky and picked up a few extra winning pitchers when I 'rotated one slot' the last 2 weeks of the season, it could have gotten me even closer to 1st place overall, and with a better starter or two over the season even perhaps could have won the league outright.
- Trade. I must have said no to a record 10 offers this year, and I got several nos back for offers I made. But I did make one deal mid season (with Conchero - Sizemore for Chris Young). I was in desparate W, ERA, and WHIP stats and was high in runs and steals where I could not fall too much. Surprisingly Young who saw about a month of the 3 months I had him on the DL, and only got 1 win for me, but he helped my ERA and Ks out.
- Pickups. I did not have an effective pick up strategy other than to keep my eye on my roster and look for replacements anytime someone is worth drop consideration. In RIBC next year, I'll have to be more pro-active. But pickups is the biggest crap shoot in RIBC format with 16 active people in the league. When I decided I wanted Hunter Pence in June, he was just nabbed by someone else several hours earlier (I had picked Pence up the day before in my office league).

Worst draft picks.(based on 20/20 hind sight)
Rd 3 - BJ Ryan. I called this a safe pick. Missed practically entire season due to injury.
Rd 14 - Chris Burke. I thought this could be a steal, but a slow start followed by the Astros comitting to playing Biggio all season, made this move a total bust.
Rd 22 - Carl Pavano. It is tough to claim a bottom round pick is a bad pick, but just mentioning his name is good for laughs.

Best draft picks
Rd 5 - Chipper. Rationale says I almost took Rolen here. Chipper will get MVP votes this year because of the all around season he had.
Rd 18 - Noah Lowry - 13 wins from this low spot is pretty good.
Rd 19 - Aaron Rowand. Horrible spring and being in trade rumors during the draft kept Rowand off the board. Lucky pick it turns out as Rowand had a great season in the averages and in R and RBI.
Rd 25 - Bengie Molina. Last round and still needed a C, got lucky with Molina because the busts I wanted were picked already. Molina was just good enough to keep me from playing catcher-go-round all season.

What about the other players I drafted?
I think one reason I did so well, is the rest of my draft was pretty much dud-free. Other than the exceptions above, the reason my team did well was players like Berkman, Wells, Jenks, Co.Jackson, among others, all played right at expectations based on round picked up.

Best FA and WW pick-ups.
- Joba Chamberlain. My only Waiver pickup (rest were free agents). Only 19 innings pitched in the regular season (post Yahoo! waiver period) but a microscopic ERA and WHIP, a huge K ratio, and a couple of wins and a save. As a Yankee fan who has caught Joba-mania in the Bronx, all I can say is that famous quote from Wayne's World "I am not worthy! I am not worthy!"
- Garret Anderson. Lucky grab. Picked him up a few days before he came off the DL, he had an awesome last 2 moths of the season, probably most responsible for me moving up to 3rd place from 9th over the stretch run.
- Alex Gonzalez. Actually picked him up twice and dropped him once. He missed weeks at a time dealing with the issues with his sick child, but when active he was a good fill in first when I needed a 2B based on a poor selection of Chris Burke, and later when I needed a MI after Iguchi was displaced from a starting position on the Phillies. In about 1/3 of the season in which he was on my roster he gave me 40R 40RBI and kept the team SLG on target.

Worst drop
- Kevin Gregg, I grabbed him in rd 20 and droppped him a few weeks into the season. Ended up closing for the Marlins by mid-May.

Summary. I'd love to say it worked out just as I planned it but in reality sometimes dumb luck plays a factor. There were a couple of times in the draft when I was deciding between 2 players that it turned out I made the right guess. (Berkman or Hafner, Chipper or Rolen, Harang or Uggala/F.Sanchez). There were a few times I was bummed my guy was snatched just before my turn that it turned out to be a good thing (Based on my rationales, I had Aurilia, Harden, Kendall and Lidge snatched up when they were my #1 queue guys for various rounds). Had I gotten my wish for those rounds, I'd likely have finished in the bottom of the league.

Congratulations again to JL and slackjawed yokel who I look forward to competing with again in RIBC (assuming top-3 get invites). Also, thanks to everyone who made this a very competitive season. There really is no difference in talent from the RIBC AAA and majors. I competed with many of you for multiple seasons already and I look forward to the years ahead when we'll be in the same league again.

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