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Subject: 2008 Dirty Dozen Keepers and Discussion
Posted by: Khahan
- [561119313] Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 16:59
New thread to start for the 2008 season for The Dirty Dozen. We will be naming 7 keepers this year.
$10 in fees are due by Opening Day (just get them in by mid-March to be safe). GO will send out an email to the group with his mailing address again.
I'm going to send out a mass email to let everybody know to check this thread. GO can use that to send out his address for dues.
7 keepers must be posted by Jan 31. We'll start the draft late Feb to early March. |
| 1 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 17:22
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Why not just send the money directly to me since I will clearly have the best team, again? ;)
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| 2 | Great One
ID: 201155199
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 19:46
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link to final rosters....
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| 3 | barilko6
ID: 3103879
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 16:22
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I have sent out a couple offers to some managers, but if you are looking to add some keepers for this season, check out my roster...nobody is untouchable!
Paul Lo Duca
Derrek Lee
Dan Uggla
Chone Figgins
Troy Tulowitzki
Lance Berkman
Manny Ramirez
Alex Rios
Jacoby Ellsbury
Carlos Beltran
Rafael Furcal
Justin Upton
Troy Glaus
Dan Haren
Francisco Rodriguez
Billy Wagner
Jonathan Papelbon
Brandon Webb
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| 4 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 13:26
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Khahan, do you have a list of all the draft picks swaps?
Also, I wanted to look at possibly adding an IF spot. I found this work really well in various leagues I've been in. There always seems to be extra 1B/3B especially floating around and I'd like to put those guys to work.
I am looking to trade Ryan Howard for a comprable 1B (or a good SS). I love the guy, but right now i have Utley, Howard and Hamels - and thats just too many damn Phillies.
I'm also debating my last keeper - so if you could offer one of these "here is the guy to 'replace' Howard, and then pick a guy from my leftovers" type 2-1 offers, I would certainly be interested.
Barilko - I'll be in touch since you seem to have a nice set of leftovers worth looking at.
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| 5 | wiggs
ID: 6825712
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 13:30
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Trade made
Wiggs gets
Chone Figgins
Derek Lee
Billy Wagner
Barilko last pick
Barilko
Gets my 1st round pick
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| 6 | barilko6
ID: 3103879
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 13:31
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Confirmed.
Let the wheeling and dealing begin!
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| 7 | Khahan
ID: 561119313
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 16:28
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GO,
I just checked last night and have any emails concerning trades saved at my hotmail account...which I can't access from work. This weekend, I'll sit down and post all trades involving picks here.
As for adding an IF slot, I'll put it up to a vote. I see altering the roster format as a major change so we will need a 3/4 yes vote for it to pass (in other words, at least 9 yes votes).
As it is befor the draft and before naming keepers, this is a vote to change the 2008 roster by adding an IF slot to what we have always used.
All votes must be 'yes' or 'no' Please do not vote that you will go with whatever we do, or that you do not care. This does not help decide whether or not this is a move that should be done. So take off the skirts, be men and cast your votes.
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| 8 | barilko6
ID: 3103879
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 22:37
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Trade:
Barilko Trades:
Manny Ramirez
Dan Haren
Khahan Trades:
Jimmy Rollins
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| 9 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 01:34
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No to IF slot.
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| 10 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 09:01
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Confirming trade with Barilko.
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| 11 | barilko6
ID: 3103879
Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 10:27
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I was a major supporter of this last year when we talked about it, I am in Canadian Favour of adding an extra IF spot.
Also, after a flurry of trades, I have another announcement to make:
Carlos Beltran and Troy Tulowitzki have moved onto the trading block. With Jimmy Rollins, I have too many SS's.
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| 12 | Little Weasel
ID: 32091210
Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 11:09
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No for INF slot
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| 13 | barilko6
ID: 3103879
Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 10:56
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I am still looking at rounding out my team and have the following still available:
Troy Tulowitzki OR Jimmy Rollins
Carlos Beltran
Rafael Furcal
Jacoby Ellsbury
First Overall Draft Pick
6th Overall Draft Pick
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| 14 | wiggs
ID: 6825712
Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 11:31
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no for Inf spot as well.
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| 15 | Perm Dude
ID: 53024149
Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 19:04
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No in INF.
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| 16 | Revvingparson
ID: 390331111
Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 06:03
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Inf slot=no
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| 17 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 07:26
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I think the IF slot has been shot down for the year. 5 no votes are in. Thanks for being men. ;)
I think this is the first time nobody has cast an 'i dont care' vote.
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| 18 | I Suck Base Balls
ID: 230321615
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 16:47
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i dont care
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| 19 | Khahan
ID: 561119313
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 17:11
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Mike, I think you're in the wrong league.
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| 20 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Jan 22, 2008, 21:56
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***TRADE***
Da Bomb receives:
Brandon Webb
Chris Young (P)
Barilko's 6th round pick
Barilko receives:
"King" Felix Hernandez
Da Bomb's 3rd round pick
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| 21 | barilko6
ID: 3103879
Tue, Jan 22, 2008, 21:56
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Confirm Trade with Da Bomb, AND
Announce this trade:
Great One Sends:
Ryan Braun
3rd Round Pick
to Barilko6 for
Jimmy Rollins
Jacoby Ellsbury
5th Round Pick.
Dang everyone, that is my 4th major trade in the last two weeks, where is everyone else's action???
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| 22 | barilko6
ID: 3103879
Tue, Jan 22, 2008, 21:59
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New Keepers for Barilko6: (Subject to change)
Ryan Braun
Carlos Beltran
Lance Berkman
Troy Tulowitzki
King Felix Hernandez
Francisco Rodriguez
Jonathan Papelbon
Picks Moved:
I get:
Wiggs 1st Round Pick
Great One's 3rd Round Pick
DaBomb's 3rd Round Pick
I Give:
5th Round to Great One
6th Round to Da Bomb
Last Round to Wiggs
Still up for sale: ALEX RIOS (And anyone else on my roster.
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| 23 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Jan 22, 2008, 23:28
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Do keepers really need to be posted on the 31st? What's the rush?
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| 24 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 08:45
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I agree with DaBomb. If we aren't drafting until March anyways, I don't see the need for the huge push for keepers.
If I recall correctly, I think last year we even extended the deadline to after the Super Bowl...
Plus I am sure Great One is trying to make more trades or something and could use the extra time...
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| 25 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 09:46
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Who, me? make more trades? cause I have too many Phillies or something?! :)
Confirm the Braun/Rollins swap as outlined above.
Ryan Howard, Utley, Rollins and Hamels are tentaively 4 of my keepers. Yeah...
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| 26 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 09:48
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Barilko, you should call your squad the Killer B's - Barilko, Braun, Beltran, Berkman...
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| 27 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 09:51
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On the block:
Joe Mauer
Nick Markakis
Miguel Tejada
Rickie Weeks
Trevor Hoffman
Looking for some starting pitching or perhaps a stud closer.
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| 28 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 17:34
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Blue hen, any interest in Smoltz or Carmona or even, dare I say, Prior??? Can be had for a pick upgrade because I don't want any of your crappy players ;)
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| 29 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 18:28
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Not really interested in any of those. Neither Smoltz nor Carmona is an upgrade on my last 3 keepers - probably Dunn, Mauer, and Markakis.
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| 30 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 09:38
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I am surprised Blue Hen, as Bill James LOVES Carmona. Aren't you a James disciple?
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| 31 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 09:56
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I'm a fan of Bill James. But even more than reading his books, I enjoy beating the crap out of all of you.
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| 32 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 10:11
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James must have really loved Daniel Cabrera and Mark Prior!
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| 33 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 10:11
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Hen - where are my trade offers? I have the entire Phillies IF and Hamels! :)
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| 34 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 10:32
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If I recall correctly, James has Fausto as his third rated young star under the age of 25 in his 2008 Handout this year. Pretty lofty position.
Great One, I will give you an extra 8th round pick for free if all 7 of your keepers are Phillies.
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| 35 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 10:39
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I'm only 3 away... so I should target Myers, Lidge and ? can't think of anyone else worth owning.
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| 36 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 10:47
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Tree has Shane Victorino....
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| 37 | Perm Dude
ID: 14013259
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 10:52
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Fausto is a big question mark, in my mind. He sucked two years ago, and then has a CYA-quality season. He's young, so maybe he'll take it the next step and continue his great season last year. But he might just as well be a one-note johnny.
As an Indians fan I hope he kicks ass. But I'm not holding my breath.
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| 38 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 10:59
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I have Lidge. But I don't think you're going to get him.
I sent you a trade offer.
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| 39 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 13:28
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The following are available for mid round pick swaps.
Sheffield
Dice-K
Yovani Gallardo
Ellsbury
McCann
Franciso Cordero
Mariano Rivera
Huston Street
Jered Weaver
Jim Thome
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| 40 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 09:34
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GO...
The Phillies just signed Pedro Feliz to man the hot corner. GET HIM SIGNED!!!
Lock up the Infield!!!
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| 41 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 09:55
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Thats not a bad pickup for them, not that great on offense, but based on his fielding stats he should have won a Gold Glove last year over David Wright. Never a bad thing to add a Gold Glover to your IF. I know I enjoy never having to worry every time something gets hit at Mike Lowell (all time Fielding % leader at 3B!:)
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| 42 | Perm Dude
ID: 46046287
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 10:04
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I'll be at a conference tomorrow through Sunday, so I'm posting my keepers right now:
Adrian Gonzalez
Robinson Cano
Brad Hawpe
CC Sabathia
Justin Verlander
Roy Halladay
Phil Hughes
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| 43 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 10:58
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i've still got plenty of youth to swap:
Loney
Butler
Peralta
Pedroia
Liriano
as well as vets like:
Andruw Jones
Aaron Rowand
Shane Victorino
Vernon Wells
come on, the fire sale is on!
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| 44 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 13:44
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I still have Alex Rios up for grabs. Or Carlos Beltran (player and pick) if the offer is sweet enough.
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| 45 | Tree
ID: 40492918
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 22:14
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good lord. are my players in that little demand? lol
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| 46 | revvingparson
ID: 10042315
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 07:32
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My keepers:
Prince Fielder
Russell Martin
Hideki Matsui
Grady Sizemore
Ryan Zimmerman
Roy Oswalt
Johan Santana
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| 47 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 09:01
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Tree...there are players on that list that appeal to me, guys that I would like to have for this year and going on, but I can't see them as keepers over and above the 7 I posted above. If I needed a keeper, I would definitely send you an offer. And Great One, he has some nice talent for grabs too...
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| 48 | Khahan
ID: 561119313
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 09:16
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Khahan's Keepers:
Manny Ramirez
Dan Haren
Hunter Pence
BJ Upton
Delmon Young
Rich Hill
Victor Martinez
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| 49 | holt
ID: 360131020
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 09:56
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crap, haven't had time to work on trades. it's been on my to do list but it didn't get done.
is the keeper deadline tonight or tomorrow night?
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| 50 | Khahan
ID: 561119313
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 10:01
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Keepers due by midnight (we'll call it 11:59pm to avoid confusion) January 31.
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| 51 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 10:43
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Holt...I still have plenty to offer!
Rios
Beltran
Furcal
Uggla
Justin Upton
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| 52 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 10:43
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Holt - i'm still looking to make moves!
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| 53 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 12:43
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Holt - i emailed you. make sure it didn't go into the spam folder. :o)
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| 54 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 14:54
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Alex Rodriguez
Jose Reyes
David Ortiz
Vladimir Guerrero
Brandon Webb
Scott Kazmir
Chris Young (P)
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| 55 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 15:10
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Looks like Markakis and Mauer aren't going to be kept... make me an offer.
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| 56 | Little Weasel
ID: 310453019
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 20:57
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Jeter
Abreu
Pierre
Soriano
Phillips
A Ramirez
Phillips
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| 57 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 09:42
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Trying to figure out who the 2 Phillips are here or if that was a typo...
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| 58 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 10:39
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Blue Hen's Keepers:
Miguel Tejada
Albert Pujols
Travis Hafner
Adam Dunn
Carl Crawford
Joe Mauer
Brad Lidge
I have an open offer to trade Mauer, Nick Markakis, Brad Lidge, Trevor Hoffman and Bobby Jenks for one of the following:
Francisco Rodriguez
Billy Wagner
Joe Nathan
Jonathan Papelbon
J.J. Putz
Unless one of the closers gets injured today, the first person to post in this thread who has one of those players gets my players.
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| 59 | wiggs
ID: 6825712
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 10:45
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wagner is not for sale.
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| 60 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 10:47
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Trade
Holt acquires
Ichiro
GO's last round pick
GO acquires
Holt's 5th round pick
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| 61 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 11:51
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still looking to make some last minute trades.
Justin Morneau is on the block as well.
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| 62 | Khahan
ID: 561119313
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 12:00
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Great One #57: I emailed the little guy last night asking him to repost his keepers.
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| 63 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 12:11
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Yeah, I have K-Rod and Papelbon, and wouldn't be open to a straight up exchange for the players listed.
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| 64 | wiggs
ID: 6825712
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 12:43
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Wiggs Keepers
3B Garrett Atkins
OF Jason Bay
1B Derek Lee
RP Billy Wagner
2B Chone Figgins
OF Curtis Granderson
SS Michael Young
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| 65 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 13:06
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alright... what the hell... its the Philly Red Sox!
GO's Keepers
Ryan Howard
Chase Utley
Jimmy Rollins
Jacoby Ellsbury
Josh Beckett
Cole Hamels
Dice-K
Leftovers who can be had for a ham sandwich, some Buffalo wings and a 10th round pick
Huston Street
Mariano Rivera
Francisco Cordero
Yovani Gallardo
Jered Weaver
Sheffield
McCann
Jim Thome
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| 66 | Astade
ID: 5935164
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 15:14
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Keepers for 2008:
Peavy
Zambrano
Putz
Teixeira
Ramirez
Cabrera
Byrnes
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| 67 | Khahan
ID: 561119313
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 15:52
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I talked to Shorty McShort and the second Phillips should be Brett Myers on his keeper list.
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| 68 | Little Weasel
ID: 170243118
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 19:27
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re: 56, 57, and 67... confirmed on Myers instead of Phillips (as my 5th and 7th Keeper)! LOL
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| 69 | holt
ID: 360131020
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 21:11
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re 60
trade confirmed
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| 70 | Tree
ID: 520153120
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 23:10
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Tree's Keepers
Carlos Lee (Hou - OF)
Justin Morneau (Min - 1B)
Brian Roberts (Bal - 2B)
Erik Bedard (Bal - SP)
John Lackey (LAA - SP)
Joba Chamberlain (NYY - RP)
Jarrod Saltalamacchia (Tex - C,1B)
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| 72 | holt
ID: 360131020
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 23:34
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2008 keepers:
David Wright
Matt Holliday
Ichiro Suzuki
Carlos Guillen
Joe Nathan
Chipper Jones
Torii Hunter
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| 73 | Khahan
ID: 561119313
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 09:13
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Hey all
I am going to extend keeper declaration until Sunday at 11:59pm. Many people could not access the site last night. Over the weekend I'm going to set up the league at Kafenatid.net
Once its set up, you'll all get an email w/ league info. Please get your team registered asap.
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| 74 | wiggs
ID: 6825712
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 09:19
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BOOO, We had plenty of time to get these in :)
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| 75 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 09:55
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Well if that's the case, I'm going to offer Jenks, Hoffman, or Markakis for a 3-round upgrade...
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| 76 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 11:24
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Hey, we have a rule that we can only pick players in the Yahoo Database. Anyone know when Yahoo will be up and running?
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| 77 | Tree
ID: 5118110
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 11:26
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yea, i'm pulling my keepers back then...
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| 78 | Khahan
ID: 561119313
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 12:42
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Barilko, Yahoo will be up and running whenever Yahoo decides to get up and running. Usually they are active around Feb 10 or so.
And yes, this is good time to remind everyody of that rule. All drafted players must be listed in the yahoo database to be valid. There are no space holders, there is no claiming rights for when he is added.
Also, the draft will continue if you make a bad pick. It is up to you to email me your replacement pick and if others have picked your guy, tough. You should have paid more attention. :)
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| 79 | Khahan
ID: 31854515
Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 19:55
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I can't believe I got all this done in one afternoon. All keepers are entered and all trades that I am aware of (I used my ones stored on email and the ones posted in the 2008 thread) are inputted.
Please DO NOT DRAFT YET. I am starting the draft and setting a pause. I think this will keep people from picking. Please take time to review the keepers and the traded picks. If any are incorrect or missing, email me:
gjhfantasysports@hotmail.com
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| 80 | Great One
ID: 19057139
Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 21:25
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I've never understood where to look at all future picks beyond "next 24"... can someone point me in the right direction?
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| 81 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 11:56
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Yeah, I don't know if you can look ahead, and if you can, I've never been able to find out how. That might be a nice tool for Fred to add.
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| 82 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 12:00
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So really there isn't a way to tell if our own picks are correct.
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| 83 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 12:03
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I have sent an email to Fred, will share the response.
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| 84 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 13:10
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First pick has been made.
Might have been a bit of a reach, but after seeing all the managers between my first pick (1st overall) and my 6th overall pick that are in need of a closer, I feel good about my selection.
I think the closer run is coming early this year!
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| 85 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 13:49
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Yeah, because you were in really desparate need of a closer, Barilko. If there's a closer run now its because there's suddenly one less where most of us figured you'd go with a SP
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| 86 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 13:51
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That is certainly a filthy trio of closers... thats for sure! haha
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| 87 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 13:59
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Yeah, closer might not have been my greatest needs, agreed. But, those guys together help in a lot of categories, not just saves.
I might even change my team name to The Closers
although Braun has a great name to play on too...
More Braun Than Brains?
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| 88 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 15:22
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Hey Barilko how about "More Saves than Points!"
HA!
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| 89 | barilko6
ID: 01141313
Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 15:41
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Dang...I thought that was a burn, but then I noticed that DaBomb won the league with 106 points last year.
With The Closers, I plan on at least 130 saves from just those three guys!
But yeah...I got more holes in my roster than Clemens does in his testimony...
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| 90 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 10:17
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I know we're not on a clock, but does anyone have an idea if or when we might start moving?
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| 91 | Perm Dude
ID: 10136157
Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 10:22
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soon.
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| 92 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 10:51
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I can't wait to take my next closer with the 6th overall pick!
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| 93 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 11:06
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Tree...I sent you a reply
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| 94 | Perm Dude
ID: 10136157
Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 11:58
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Is this a snake draft?
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| 95 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 12:21
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No...
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| 96 | Perm Dude
ID: 10136157
Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 12:21
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OK, thanks. Just picked.
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| 97 | barilko6
ID: 54141517
Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 10:17
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Made my choice. I was thinking my plan had a big chance at backfiring. I was targeting one of two closers and one of 2 outfielders with my first two selections.
I figured I would be better off grabbing one of the closers and then hoping that one of the outfielders dropped to number 6. Luckily one of them did, otherwise I would be second guessing myself the rest of the draft.
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| 98 | revvingparson
ID: 59132143
Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 10:45
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We shall see, Sizemore and Kinsler's nice blend of power and speed blends well with my corner's power and cement.
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| 99 | Great One
ID: 19057139
Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 15:26
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I would have bet my life savings Barilko was taking Alex Rios. I wish BetJamaica was taking the action!
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| 100 | barilko6
ID: 191471615
Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 16:51
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haha...It would have been a real hard decision if both Rios and Markakis were on the board at 6. Although, you are right, I still would have probably went Rios!
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| 101 | Tree
ID: 511251614
Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 17:36
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it WAS a real hard decision between Rios and Markakis. i labored over it for quite some time.
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| 102 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 18:36
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There are some REALLY nice round 1 players out there. Considering we kept 7 each this is almost like round 5 or 6 in a non-keeper draft. To get some of this talent at this point is pretty nice.
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| 103 | Perm Dude
ID: 581331621
Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 22:33
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I took so long because of so many good choices!
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| 104 | Astade
ID: 5935164
Sun, Feb 17, 2008, 00:49
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picked.
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| 105 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Sun, Feb 17, 2008, 18:15
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Always good to see two of your non-keepers taken in the first four picks of the draft. Markakis is great, but had no spot on my team, and Jenks is smoke and mirrors. But I hope you guys enjoy having them.
I am ready to pick when Holt does. Feel free to send me an email at this address. It might help speed me up. Remember to tell me who Holt drafted.
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| 106 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:07
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Maybe it just means you did a poor job of choosing your keepers for this year. ;)
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| 107 | Great One
ID: 19057139
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:19
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He had to keep Lidge - if he didn't, Barilko would have drafted him too! :)
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| 108 | Great One
ID: 19057139
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:20
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Although I don't see how the shell of Miguel Tejada would have more keeper value than Nick Markakis.
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| 109 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:42
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Great One, I already have 2 outfielders, a first baseman, and a DH. If I'd kept Markakis, that would have totally frozen up my draft. Tejada is a shell of himself, but he's still a big step up from a lot of the shortstops I would have if I hadn't kept him. Wouldn't he have also been a first round pick? I'm more surprised that I couldn't get any kind of value for Markakis before the draft.
In other news, I took Matt Cain with my first pick. I considered him to be the best player available after the keepers were done, so I'm glad to have him.
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| 110 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:57
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Matt Cain was rather high on my list as well. I think a lot of people would overlook him because his W total was so low last year. This caused his rankings to be shot. He ended up getting not much press during the season.
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| 111 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:58
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i am having more issues with my plumbing, and will be away all day. I have left a queue and a couple dps. Feel free to use it until it empties if you get that far.
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| 112 | barilko6
ID: 231102517
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 10:12
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Lidge? Not me...I only want dependable closers! :)
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| 113 | holt
ID: 4118152
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 13:47
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I would've liked to have had markakis, but since he's a bubble type keeper he wasn't worth giving up a pick.
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| 114 | holt
ID: 4118152
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 20:36
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I was under the impression that our draft clock was starting this morning. did I misread something?
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| 115 | barilko6
ID: 01301817
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 20:47
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I think it starts Wednesday Holt. Not 100% sure though.
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| 116 | Khahan
ID: 361271318
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 20:53
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I had sent out an email last week stating we would start the clock at 8am Wednesday morning.
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| 117 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 20:56
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I will be making my pick tomorrow evening.
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| 118 | Tree
ID: 541201918
Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 19:49
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i know the clock hasn't officially started, but it takes 36 hours to make a pick?
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| 119 | Astade
ID: 5935164
Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 20:59
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Da Bomb-I wish I could be a first-place, pretty boy ;)
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| 120 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 23:53
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Pick made.
Nice, draft hasn't even started yet and Tree is already complaining. However, I'm not surprised.
By the way, Khahan, I think you made an error by inputting Jarrod Saltalamacchia to be someone's keeper. ;)
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| 121 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 06:44
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Sheesh, Tree...its been 5 mins since I picked and nothing from you yet. I mean, its 6:40am. Aren't we all up watching our computers? ;)
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| 122 | Tree
ID: 50125205
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 06:51
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lol, i actually WAS watching. but i got distracted reading wrestling message boards. :o)
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| 123 | barilko6
ID: 101401920
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 07:47
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Guys, I am away coaching basketball all day. I have left a really long queue that should screw me over in the long run...lol
GO has my contact info if needed.
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| 124 | revvingparson
ID: 59132143
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 09:03
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khahan
It's now after 9 in the east and the clock starts when?
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| 125 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 11:23
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I'm with Tree on this one. Can you give us some info about why it took you 36 hours to pick? Especially if you had time to come here and post about it. Just seems like taking extra time without needing it...
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| 126 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 11:39
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Bomb - part of a good draft is helping make it fun for all. yes, you're trying to build the best team possible, but consideration for your league mates is fairly important as well.
it's almost like you took the time because, well, you could.
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| 127 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 12:55
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Apologies to tree for ruining his fun. I wasn't prepared to draft when my turn came up, so I did come here and post that I wouldn't be drafting until exactly when I did to give myself time to get ready, thinking everything would be OK because the official draft hadn't even started yet.
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| 128 | astade
ID: 1777321
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 13:12
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I will be picking in 2 hours....jk
Give me 10min
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| 129 | Perm Dude
ID: 36118207
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 13:15
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#127: No problem here. Either the clock is on or not. If it isn't, 36 hours is no problem.
A week or so--we might have a problem. But not yet. And not a day and a half.
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| 130 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 14:43
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Da Bomb, you're up again.
I got Rafael Soriano and Matt Cain, who were the two players I targeted as soon as keepers were selected. Boo yah.
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| 131 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 15:40
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maybe next you'll go for Kerry Wood and Mark Prior, who combined will strike out 942 guys.
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| 132 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 15:48
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BH - you said you didn't like ichiro cause he doesn't fill up all the categories... so why so high on Cain when its gonna be impossible for him to win more than maybe 14 games this year.
Hitting cleanup for SF is Benji Molina!! Seriously.
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| 133 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:05
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I'm actually bullish on the Giants this year. They added Aaron Rowand and they subtracted Pedro Feliz. That's an overhaul right there.
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| 134 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:08
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Guys I am back in the office today, and I am loving all the trash talk going on!
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| 135 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:13
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BH, better act quick before Prior and Wood go like Tree said. I mean Prior was the backbone of your team last year. Check out post 201 and 268. That pretty much says it all. How prior wasn't a keeper for you this year, I don't know. But maybe Cain will step it up and fill his shoes.
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| 136 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:16
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Khahan - email me damnit! i'm trying to work out a trade in our other league with you! :o)
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| 137 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:17
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And, Prior is moving to the ultimate pitcher's park too!!!
Wait...are we allowed to talk about undrafted studs?
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| 138 | Perm Dude
ID: 36118207
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:39
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#133: Is that the only change in the Giants lineup you can think of?
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| 139 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:49
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I propose a new rule. Everytime someone submits a post that has "Mark Prior" in it, they also have to list where they finished in Dirty Dozen last year.
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| 140 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:56
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...says the guy who got the luck of the draw and took over a stacked team...
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| 141 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 17:08
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True. Albert Pujols and Travis Hafner sure had awesome years. Oh and Miguel Tejada too.
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| 143 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 17:21
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Awesome! Its like a new zinger with every post!
Someone make fun of my selection of Yovani Gallardo. I want in on the action!
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| 144 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 17:28
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the funny thing is that you were trying to be sarcastic.
meanwhile -
Pujols: .327 avg, 32 homers, 103 rbis, 99 runs...
Hafner: .266, 24, 100, 80
Tejeda: .296, 18, 81, 72
did they have seasons up to their normal standards? no.
did they have pretty damned spectacular seasons? yes.
you can certainly point to those players as reasons as to why you didn't win the whole shebang, but i'd chalk it up to your first 10 draft picks, which included Scott Rolen, Mark Prior, Ryan Dempster, Joel Zumaya, Ray Durham, and Armando Benitez.
you definitely had a few gems last year, but all in all, the beginning of your draft was pretty awful last year.
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| 145 | Great One
ID: 19057139
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 17:39
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To go along with those choices, lets not forget the awesome Daniel Cabrera pick and subsequent hype.
And don't forget how many times I challenged BH to bet me something regarding MARK PRIOR** after he hyped him.
**I finished 2nd. And 1st the previous year.
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| 146 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 17:40
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This is the best smack talk we have had since I joined the league 2 years ago!
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| 147 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 17:49
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Hey...why is the draft stopped?
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| 148 | Little Weasel
ID: 11252018
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 19:32
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re: 143. Who the hell is Yovani Gallardo?! LOL! Reminds me of something you'd see out of Major League. "Rick Vaughn? Willie Hayes? I haven't heard of half of these f'n guys."
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| 149 | Astade
ID: 5935164
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 20:46
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Re #147:
The draft clock is still running
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| 150 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 21:10
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This guy here is dead. Cross him off then.
Now this is the spirit I'm looking for. Keep it up.
You can't put Hafner in that list. He had a very pedestrian year, especially when you consider he was only a DH for most of the year.
And Tejada, too. I mean, he didn't come close to the numbers of undrafted.
Any way you look at it, it was a pretty bad draft. But enough to keep me in third (and give some credit to the other guys I drafted).
This year, it's on. I'm pretty happy with the draft at this point.
Oh and Yovani Gallardo sucks. AND he's not going to be ready for opening day.
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| 151 | Tree
ID: 191472017
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 21:22
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100 ribbies isn't "pedestrian".
a SS hitting .300 with 18 homers and 80 ribbies isn't either.
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| 152 | barilko6
ID: 101401920
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 21:38
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re: 149 The draft was stopped for about 15 minutes, and then restarted. I think it was just Khahan trying to figure out how to sneak Yovani Gallardo off my roster and onto his.
I knew Yovani wasn't going to be ready until mid-April, but come July he will be posting all-star numbers...I hope. Its a keeper league, and he's a big time prospect, and I needed some pitching!
And his name is sweet.
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| 153 | Khahan
ID: 361271318
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 22:07
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I briefly stopped the draft because I had a question about a trade I had inputted. Once I confirmed everything was correct I restarted it.
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| 154 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 00:09
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Interesting. Last year I traded Sheffield and Valverde each for 2nd round picks and I pick both again in this draft's 2nd round.
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| 155 | barilko6
ID: 101401920
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 09:10
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lol...that is pretty odd.
Hey, if you are all laughing at my Yovani pick, you must be having a field day with me taking Jay Bruce so early!!!
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| 156 | revvingparson
ID: 49110216
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 09:32
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Not laughing at YG, as I have him tucked away as a prospect in our other league-just hope the knee is not a long term issue nor that it changes his mechanics.
With Bruce just surprised at the round not the pick
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| 157 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 09:40
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Yeah, I totally reached way too much on Bruce, I know that. I regret it already...haha
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| 158 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 10:05
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Keep reaching barilko. Every pick like that is one less pick that knocks a player off my wish-list.
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| 159 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 10:10
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Forget Bruce... he's still a decent pick for NL ROY.
I can tease Tree because I like him. J.J. Hardy was not even on my list. I've been crossing players off, and J.J. came up and I kept looking for him on my list, and then remembered that he wasn't on it.
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| 160 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 10:34
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If you think Bruce is a keeper for many years to come... why not take him a few rounds early to make sure you get him? I like it.
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| 161 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 10:47
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J.J. Hardy was not even on my list. I've been crossing players off, and J.J. came up and I kept looking for him on my list, and then remembered that he wasn't on it.
list for what?
there are already 10 Shortstops off the board. I needed a SS, considering the options, he wasn't a bad one at all.
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| 162 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:01
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I have five shortstops rated ahead of Hardy who are still available. Besides, if 10 were gone, why not wait a few rounds? It's not like people are going to start grabbing shortstops since all but one other manager already have theirs.
If he's your highest rated shortstop, then good - you got him. I'm just saying he wasn't on my own list.
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| 163 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:17
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Khahan got a nice later round pick with Furcal I think. He should bounce back nicely this year.
As for Bruce, I don't really regret taking him, just thinking I maybe could have waited 2 rounds. But then with some of these prospect hungry teams that have no chance of contending against us powerhouses this year, (See Tree, Blue Hen, etc.) he might have been gone by then.
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| 164 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:20
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Tree and Blue Hen are powerhouses?
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| 165 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:23
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haha...no, they are the prospect hungry teams!!!
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| 166 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 12:27
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you really believe a team with Pujols, Hafner, Crawford and Mauer has no chance to contend?
or a team with Lee, Morneau, Roberts, Bedard, Lackey, Markakis, and Street?
not for nothing, but i think you've done serious damage to your team with your last two picks.
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| 167 | holt
ID: 4118152
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 12:36
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argh. I hate catchers, but McCann probably should have been off the board by now. didn't really see any burning need to draft any particular position this round, and didn't see any other players I thought dropped as far as McCann did.
Jay Bruce!!!
:D
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| 168 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 12:45
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You're selling yourself short tree. Don't forget you have Salty too.
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| 169 | holt
ID: 4118152
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 12:50
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i see BH took Weeks. He was one of a few players I looked at for my pick. I finally decided his batting average was too stinky. With Ichiro as one of my keepers I figured I'd better maintain that category. Good pick though.
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| 170 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 12:56
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I was happy with the furcal pick. He should get me 30+ SB and a .280 BA isn't out of reach for him. If he pops out 15HR thats just a bonus. All he has to do is stay healthy. But I was looking at what I felt was slim pickings on SS. I saw 3 other teams that needed 1 and figured I might as well get the best of the rest.
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| 171 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 12:57
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Yeah, Weeks is much more valuable in an RIBC-style league than in Dirty Dozen. But I still think that he's going to score a million runs in that lineup, and steal bases, and it means that I don't need a crappy middle infielder.
As we know, I had Weeks last year, and almost kept him. Good to be able to get him back this late.
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| 172 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 13:02
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Weeks may very well turn out to be a 20/20 guy this year and I see no reason to expect less than 85-90 runs from him. But his BA will be a liability. And he can't score a ton of runs unless he's on base. Even for an RIBC style league I think his OBP would be pretty pedestrian or just slightly sub-par.
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| 173 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 13:23
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re 166:
Umm...learn to take a little bit of a joke man!!!
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| 174 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 13:24
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Still working on my second guy...will pick in a couple minutes
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| 175 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 13:31
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You're up in gurukeepers too.
And you had to take vernon wells. I think you're just being greedy with all these picks.
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| 176 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 13:36
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Picked. Thanks for the Gurukeepers note...picked there too!
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| 177 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 13:41
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Didn't REM come out with a song that mentioned two of my stud players:
That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, a Yovani, and Jay Bruce is not afraid.
Its the end of you all as you know it,
Its the end of you all as you know it
Its the end of you all as you know it,
the title is mine!!!
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| 178 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 14:41
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Funny, I thought that song was:
Barilko sucks balls and you know.
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| 179 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 14:43
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I am Superman, and I can do anything.
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| 180 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 15:19
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Sucks balls? Serious? Sucks Balls?!? That's all you got?
Wait...I need to get out my "Can You Insult Like a 5th Grader" Book. hahahaha
But seriously...I like the way my team is shaping up. Except I took Bruce too early. Wells is a good value with the second last pick of round 10, he was hurt last year and hopefully can get back to his keeper status of two years ago. Or at least close.
Just wish the Jays would get away from their Oakland philosophy and run more, they have a lot of potentially good baserunners...
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| 181 | Perm Dude
ID: 017218
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 15:24
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Bruce is unlikely to get any ABs with Dusty Baker at the helm. But there are probably a few people on the boards who don't mind him taking up a roster spot until the ASB if you wanted to get a player who will get you some stats this year.
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| 182 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 16:30
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I didn't realize Barilko was the one who took Wells. Wells AND Rios? Either you're going to be happy in real and fake life or...
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| 183 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 18:57
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I was scared to take Eric Gagne. But then I realized the two picks around him were Burnett and Liriano. I feel much better now.
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| 184 | Astade
ID: 5935164
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 19:36
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blue hen,
From looking at your dismal picks, I'm assuming that you didn't have a chance to prepare for the draft.
all,
since blue hen's poor draft may hurt the parity of the league, i propose that we start the draft over...i'm sure we'll still finish before the start of the season
;)
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| 185 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 20:21
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Nice.
I will say that a few of you have taken players I wanted. Shame on you.
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| 186 | Great One
ID: 19057139
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 20:31
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Can we formally get it in writing that Gagne is a better pick at this point than Liriano for a keeper league? for this year... for beyond etc etc.
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| 187 | Perm Dude
ID: 017218
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 20:59
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Not if you plan to use their stats to rank the players...
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| 188 | Astade
ID: 5935164
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 21:11
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PD,
Maybe if you stopped focusing so much on the Politics Forum you would have a better team in our league (and not taken so much time to draft)...
sorry guys, I was at work today, so i'm trying to get caught up on the trash talking
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| 189 | Perm Dude
ID: 017218
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 21:13
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A weak effort, Astade. But maybe you can build up your trash talk strength.
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| 190 | Astade
ID: 5935164
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 21:19
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...you're so diplomatic
btw, this is the Baseball Leagues & Standings forum. Not the Politics forum.
:)
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| 191 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 21:22
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I'll make no statements about Gagne being better than Neifi Perez or anyone else. At this point, he has a closer's job on a good team and appeared to be healthy for most of last season, and very effective for part of it. There's a big dropoff to the next closer. As my third closer, if he approximates 2007, it won't be bad.
As for Liriano, he's obviously been justifiably praised as one of the best pitching arrivals of recent years. And he's young and he has all the potential in the world.
But I have plenty of keeper worthy players, and I don't think Liriano will be so great in 2008.
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| 192 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 22:51
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There's a big dropoff to the next closer.
Interesting, as I grabbed Soria after Gagne who I consider to be a notch or two above him.
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| 193 | Great One
ID: 19057139
Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 23:13
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Da Bomb, you clearly need a copy of BH's magical (and apparently definitive!) ranking chart.
Personally I had John Rocker ranked about of both of those guys.
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| 194 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 01:55
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Banana peels. coffee grinds. Crumpled up newspapers. Used tissues.
How's that for trash talk?!? I'm winning this war.
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| 195 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 09:13
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Eric Gagne is Canadian...must...not...say...anything...bad...so...hard...
That being said, I don't see Gagne being any worse than Joe Borowski. As a third closer he is decent, and I don't think he would have been on the board for too much longer.
And yes, I almost have a monopoly on the Blue Jays Outfield, but my rationale was that if Great One can stock up on Red Sox players, I can get a few guys from my favorite squad too.
Nothing beats sitting in the seats and knowing you can cheer for your home team without thinking about the negative fantasy implications.
Nice to see Astade throwing his hat into the trash talking ring!!!
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| 196 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 09:59
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Gagne as a third closer is nice. In fact if your only expectation is for him to fill the role of a 3rd closer I think you'll end up very happy with what you get. He's certainly not the 62-straight save closer of yore. But he's not the spaz we saw out of the Boston bullpen last year either.
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| 197 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 10:18
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I believe you mean 84 straight saves. [insert trash talk about Khahan's lack of statistical knowledge here]
Da Bomb, I hate to put it this way, but that's exactly my point. The "definitive" rankings have Soria far below Gagne. Soria's only been good for half a season, plays on a worse team, and doesn't strike out as many batters. Sure, he's healthier, but even he has already had issues.
Of course, you're the champ, so it's hard to question you.
There we go! Barilko just took Todd Jones. Now I'm REALLY happy I took Gagne.
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| 198 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 10:21
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No...Barilko didn't take Todd Jones. That pick was Great One.
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| 199 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 10:46
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Todd Jones is rockin' with Great One whohoo...
And he's my #1 ACE closer too!!! :)
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| 200 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 10:47
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Barilko sounds a bit like Ricky Henderson in #198
Maybe that'll be my theme for trash talk all year, Ricky quotes...
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| 201 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 10:48
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hmm...maybe I should go to Third Person then...for everything!
Yep, Barilko likes to talk baseball.
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| 203 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 10:57
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16) OK, I know everyone has been waiting for it. Alas, according to both parties involved, it’s not true. I wish it were. Heck, both Rickey Henderson and John Olerud have said they wish it were true. But it just didn’t happen.
The story went that a few weeks into Henderson’s stint with the Mariners, he walked up to Olerud at the batting cage and asked him why he wore a batting helmet in the field. Olerud explained that he had an aneurysm at nine years old and he wore the helmet for protection. Legend goes that Henderson said, “Yeah, I used to play with a guy that had the same thing.”
Legend also goes that Olerud said, “That was me, Rickey.”
Henderson played with Olerud on the Blue Jays and the Mets.
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| 204 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 11:00
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In June 1999, when Rickey Henderson was playing with the Mets, he saw reporters running around the clubhouse before a game. He asked a teammate what was going on and he was told that Tom Robson, the team’s hitting coach, had just been fired. Henderson said, “Who’s he?”
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| 205 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 11:01
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In 1996, Henderson’s first season with San Diego, he boarded the team bus and was looking for a seat. Steve Finley said, “You have tenure, sit wherever you want.” Henderson looked at Finley and said, “Ten years? Ricky’s been playing at least 16, 17 years.”
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| 206 | barilko6
ID: 491137128
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 11:06
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A couple more: (really we could start a whole Rickey Thread)
A reporter asked Henderson if Ken Caminiti’s estimate that 50 percent of Major League players were taking steroids was accurate. His response was, “Well, Rickey’s not one of them, so that’s 49 percent right there.”
I didn’t believe this one at first. However, I emailed a few contacts within the Sox organization and they claim it actually happened. This is priceless, it really is.
The morning after the Sox finished off their 2004 World Series sweep against St. Louis, Henderson called someone in the organization looking for tickets to Game 6 at Fenway Park.
During a contract holdout with Oakland in the early 1990s, Henderson said, “If they want to pay me like Mike Gallego, I’ll play like Gallego.”
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| 207 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 17:06
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Such a steal getting Brian Wilson this late. I mean, his last owner almost made him a keeper!
(At least, that's what he told me when he tried to trade him to me)
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| 208 | Astade
ID: 5935164
Sat, Feb 23, 2008, 18:58
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Khahan,
I think Eva Longoria might have been a better pick.
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| 209 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Sat, Feb 23, 2008, 22:58
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Evan was a big star in college. I wonder how many times he's heard that joke.
In other news, Da Bomb just drafted Troy Percival. I know he's earned the right for us not to make fun of him, but...
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| 210 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sat, Feb 23, 2008, 23:09
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In other news, Da Bomb just drafted Troy Percival. I know he's earned the right for us not to make fun of him, but..
Past success is no proof against future failures. Taunt away.
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| 211 | Great One
ID: 19057139
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 10:10
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Crap, I meant to get Longoria with my previous pick and forgot to move him up my list.
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| 212 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 14:59
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What's wrong with Percival as like the 25th closer drafted? Plus, he was pretty great last year.
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| 213 | Great One
ID: 19057139
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 16:31
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Yeah Da Bomb, its not like you kept Lidge or something ridiculous like that.
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| 214 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 16:53
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Lidge out 3-6 weeks.
Nice way to start the season. I just drafted him on Thursday in the gurukeepers league.
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| 215 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 17:35
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3-6 weeks. Could be worse.
In 2007, Brad Lidge had a 3.36 ERA and an 11.82 K/9. And now he's the closer for a playoff team, even if he'll miss a couple weeks. Definitely have no regrets about keeping him, although I guess drafting Gagne was probably a good idea.
As for Percival, I just don't see him finding success in Tampa. Maybe he will, but it would surprise me.
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| 216 | Great One
ID: 19057139
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 18:12
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I had Lidge/Gagne as keepers in this league when they were in their prime. That was fun.
Then I decided that closers were worthless and and have been racking up league wins ever since.
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| 217 | barilko6
ID: 48152259
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 11:17
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Funny Hen,
You disparaging comment about Gallardo not being ready for opening day seems to have slid nicely off of the back of Lidge!
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| 218 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 11:42
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3-6 weeks? Opening Day is in over 4 weeks so it seems like he might make it back.
How many league wins do you have?
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| 219 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 11:51
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Just the facts ma'am....
Baseball
Barilko
Teams Managed 10
Trophies 4
Blue Hen
Teams Managed 16
Trophies 4
Great One
Teams Managed 15
Trophies 10!
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| 220 | barilko6
ID: 48152259
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 11:52
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Which is the exact same time frame for Gallardo, no?
I think I have probably the same amount of league wins as you, albeit with one extra year played. If you win this year, I will proclaim you king.
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| 221 | wiggs
ID: 6825712
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 11:55
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how do you find that information GO? How do you know all of everyones IDs?
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| 222 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 11:56
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Where do you get your stats? Are we talking outside of Dirty Dozen?
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| 223 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 11:56
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Fantasy Profile - and then "Lookup Friends" offers a side-by-side comparsion.
I believe Barilko was the 2-time reigning Lucky 13 champion before I bumped him out last year too.
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| 224 | barilko6
ID: 48152259
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 12:00
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Re:219
Some of those leagues are used for draft position only, and not played out!
But the Lucky 13 stat is all true!
Blue Hen, I was talking just Dirty Dozen.
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| 225 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 12:25
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Just the facts ma'am....
Baseball
Barilko
Teams Managed 10
Trophies 4
Blue Hen
Teams Managed 16
Trophies 4
Great One
Teams Managed 15
Trophies 10!
amateurs. all of you.
Tree
Teams Managed 21
Trophies 15!
TEN of those were first or second place.
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| 226 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 12:31
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Excellent work Tree. Our ratio's are pretty similar.
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| 227 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 14:47
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Now wait a minute. I've been in RIBC majors three times. Are you giving that equal weight to your Double-A win?
And this is just Yahoo. What about SportsLine or TSN or... ESPN? I know you can beat Fosten; I just don't care - it's not a very competitive league.
Let's talk Dirty Dozen. One season, third place. Does anyone else average third or better over their seasons?
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| 228 | holt
ID: 341542412
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 14:57
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Baseball Game Performance: 90% (17 eligible teams)
Trophies: 15
Teams Managed 17
6 1st's, 6 2nd's, 3 3rd's
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| 229 | holt
ID: 341542412
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 15:00
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Baseball 2004 2 of 12 Holts Famous Jugband Dirty Dozen Draft
Baseball 2005 1 of 12 Holt'sTimeMachine'82 Dirty Dozen Keepers
Baseball 2006 3 of 12 holt Dirty Dozen
Baseball 2007 3 of 12 HOLT The Dirty Dozen 2007
being on the end of a non-snake draft every year doesn't help much.
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| 230 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 15:11
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One season, third place. Does anyone else average third or better over their seasons?
we've been over this. luck of the draw. if you couldn't manage that team to a third place finish, you probably would have been booted from the league.
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| 231 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 15:36
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we've been over this. luck of the draw. if you couldn't manage that team to a third place finish, you probably would have been booted from the league.
I can't boot Hen from the league. Look at the interest he's generating!!! This is the best trash talk we've had since our inaugural season I think.
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| 232 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 16:08
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2004 6th Place
2005 3rd Place
2006 1st Place
2007 2nd Place
I believe thats exactly a 3rd place average there. And the 2004 year was my first ever draft in baseball. That was a lot to overcome in a keeper league.
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| 233 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 16:16
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Yeah true. There is definitely some talent here, although I can't believe you clowns let me get John Maine this late.
Holt, that's pretty impressive. And I think you won an RIBC in there as well.
Anyone want to talk TSN?
Seasons: 1
Gurupie Standings won: 1
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| 234 | revvingparson
ID: 49110216
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 16:20
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I'm just glad that my skills to finish 6th each year has allowed each of you to have such high finishes:)
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| 235 | holt
ID: 341542412
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 16:40
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will pick shortly. would have picked already but my comp is throwing some tantrums today.
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| 236 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 17:38
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Dammit Holt. This was going to be the round I took Olly. Nice going. That's two in a row.
I called an audible, and Troy Glaus is a pretty good choice for an audible. I almost waited a few more rounds, since everyone already has a third baseman, but with no better option, I figured I'd go now. I expect Glaus to thrive in St. Louis, and LaRussa is just the kind of guy to let him play a few games at short.
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| 237 | holt
ID: 341542412
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 18:30
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ha - it actually crossed my mind that he must have been near the top of your cheat sheet.
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| 238 | holt
ID: 341542412
Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 15:26
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does anyone have the results of our inaugural draft? was trying to figure out if I still had any original players left. Nathan maybe.
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| 239 | revvingparson
ID: 49110216
Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 15:31
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Holt if you go to Yahoo and the home page for our league there is a drop down window that shows all the end of year rosters. Here is your end of first year roster...
Jeromy Burnitz
Carlos Delgado
Jim Edmonds
Ryan Freel
Marcus Giles
César Izturis
Mike Lowell
Melvin Mora
Plácido Polanco
Édgar Rentería
Iván Rodríguez
Yhency Brazobán
Kiko Calero
Roger Clemens
Mike González
Ray King
Scott Linebrink
Noah Lowry
Greg Maddux
Joe Nathan
Glendon Rusch
Scot Shields
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| 240 | revvingparson
ID: 49110216
Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 15:33
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Should add same spot shows round by round of the draft
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| 241 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 15:57
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Yahoo has really come a long way. The league history options are great new features. I'd love to take some time to sit down and review them more thoroughly. But then I'll probably find more gaffes like this: I had Mark Teixeira in my original team and kept Jim Thome over him!!!
I also originally had Jose Reyes and traded him for Brian Roberts. ugh. Too much like that and its no wonder I'm in such fierce competition for 9th place every year.
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| 242 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 10:08
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How the heck did Edgar Renteria last so long? I started noticing around round 11 that he was still there, but with Tejada I could never pull the trigger. I was planning to take him after Rolen, but he went.
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| 243 | wiggs
ID: 6825712
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 10:19
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I was the same way, I have Michael Young so I didnt want to take him, but i couldnt let him sit any longer.
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| 244 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 16:04
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I'd like to propose that for next year's draft, we impose a 2 hour time limit during daylight, working hours.
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| 245 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 16:48
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even though i have a day job that puts me at my desk most of the time, no way do i think that's even remotely fair.
you've got west coast vs. east coast issues, you've got people who don't necessary have desk jobs, you have meetings that might run 3 or 4 hours, and so on, and so forth.
anything less than 4 hours is unreasonable.
man, we're 5 rounds from being done, spring training hasn't even really started yet, and you're already impatient? i know you're itching to get started after your relatively miserable season last year with the team that shoulda won, but hey, patience. :o)
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| 246 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 16:58
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Just saw a thread from Perm Dude in another forum this morning. Looks like he's sick.
I wasn't singling him out at all. It just seems like 4 hours is a long time. I hate picking in the early morning with cobwebs.
Holt amazes me. How are you up at 3 AM every day?
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| 247 | Tree
ID: 531112718
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 19:12
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just an FYI. i'm holding off picking as long as possible. as BH pointed out, PD is pretty sick today, and i don't like the idea of picking over someone who isn't feeling well...
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| 248 | wiggs
ID: 51013815
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 19:17
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i got no problem with that.
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| 249 | holt
ID: 341542412
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 19:18
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I can never go to sleep. I think I'm better designed for a planet that has 30 hour days. sleep 8 hrs, then up for 22 hrs would suit me just fine. 24 hrs feels like a short cycle. :D
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| 250 | wiggs
ID: 51013815
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 19:20
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i am with you holt, I am up til 3 every night and back up around 630 every morning. Working 2 jobs and having a kid takes away all my sleep
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| 251 | holt
ID: 341542412
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 20:26
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haha - yeah, and then you gotta sleep like rip van winkle and waste away your days off.
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| 252 | Tree
ID: 531112718
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 20:50
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what time does the clock turn off?
i've got 30 minutes left, and would prefer not to time out, but again, would rather not skip PD again.
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| 253 | revvingparson
Sustainer
ID: 059856912
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 20:53
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11 PM Eastern
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| 254 | Tree
ID: 531112718
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 21:01
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ugh.
i'm figuring PD is laid out in bed, because i emailed him a few hours ago, and no response.
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| 255 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 21:39
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I emailed PD about 10mins before his pick expired letting him know I could only give him until around 5:30 before I had to make my pick. After that, I wasn't sure if I'd have access again until my own 4 hours were expired.
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| 256 | Little Weasel
ID: 231362717
Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 21:51
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Following suit, will let mine ride through tomorrow morning. I have some things to take care of so may not be able to let it go the entire 4 hrs...
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| 257 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 09:14
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Guys, I'm just gonna stop the draft for now and PD can email his pick. Its great that we are all willig to give him time. However if everybody does that then he picks, we are suddenly in a free-for-all for those who let their time run.
Since we are ahead of the game the draft is paused until I hear from PD.
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| 258 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 09:21
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Better yet, I just set us to no time limit. We're running smooth and almost at the end of the draft. If we hit Monday morning and there is still no pick from Pd, the clock will turn on and we'll continue as normal.
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| 259 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:27
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In the meantime, why not fill the stall of the draft with some more trash talkin'?
What do you guys think are the odds of me repeating? I'll say 1-3.
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| 260 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:32
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I got all my money on Blue Hen. He's got this thing locked up!
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| 261 | barilko6
ID: 561222714
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:07
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I like the way my team has shaped up, provided my young pitchers step up!
Admittedly Da Bomb's team is pretty strong with 5 potential closers, solid starting, and good offence. I guess using up almost the entire 4 hour time allotment for each pick does help the thought process. :)
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| 262 | barilko6
ID: 561222714
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:09
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The one thing that I notice about Da Bomb's team more than any other, is that he doesn't seem to fall for the allure and risks associated with prospects and young players. Old proven vets.
Maybe I should adopt that strategy next year.
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| 263 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:09
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Hey now, that's just a little bit of an exaggeration.
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| 264 | Little Weasel
ID: 301372817
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 18:41
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I'm up, with pick 18.05. Has PD (or someone else in his stead) picked? :
PermDude 18.02 Mike Cameron OF MIL 12:46 pm
And hate to tell you fellas, but I have a feeling that the Little Weasel Train is gonna be a-steam-rollin' this season!
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| 265 | holt
ID: 341542412
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 19:10
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pretty sure it was him. I don't think anyone else would have picked for him.
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| 266 | revvingparson
ID: 291402817
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 19:51
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My guess it was PD as he drafted at the same time (12:46)in another draft we're in.
So start steam-rolling...the draft:)
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| 267 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 20:17
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5 potential closers, solid starting, and good offence
You spell like a Canadian!
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| 268 | barilko6
ID: 31532814
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 21:15
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If Canada wasn't so great, I would take offence to that.
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| 269 | holt
ID: 341542412
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 21:26
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damn it barilko, why'd you take votto? jerk
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| 270 | barilko6
ID: 31532814
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 21:41
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He's Canadian.
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| 271 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 21:46
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Really? Good. That lowers him a few notches on my list, which means I wasn't going to take him for another round or so.
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| 272 | barilko6
ID: 31532814
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 21:54
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Wow...that must mean you valued Eric Gagne as a true 9th round pick, seeing as how you took him in Round 11?
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| 273 | holt
ID: 341542412
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 22:22
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Rush are from Canada. So are Kids in the Hall. Pretty much takes that country off the hook.
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| 274 | holt
ID: 341542412
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 22:28
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left 2 man queue. astade and BH are designated pickers.
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| 275 | Great One
ID: 19057139
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 23:16
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and Shania Twain.
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| 276 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 01:42
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The South Park movie shared my opinion on Canada ;)
P.S. Little Weasel, why do you change handles for your different leagues?
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| 277 | Khahan
ID: 361271318
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 01:57
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By the way, I'll be turning the clock on tomorrow morning again (at some point, don't know exactly when). But I didn't think it was fair for whoever's pick it is to wake up to a ticking clock. At some point on Friday morning it'll be turned on.
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| 278 | Little Weasel
ID: 101133299
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 07:51
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LOL, no idea. Just sorta happened, never changed back.
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| 279 | barilko6
ID: 561222714
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 10:17
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I don't know if i feel good about Astade missing a pick. We had stopped the clock for one manager (which I am ok with) and then promptly skip another manager.
Did Astade know the draft had restarted? We were stopped on Little Weasel and Perm Dude for a long time.
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| 280 | barilko6
ID: 561222714
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 10:59
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bump
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| 281 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:16
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I completely agree.
I'm going to hold off a while for him.
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| 282 | revvingparson
ID: 291402817
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:27
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Not sure what happened with the clock, but in that the clock had been turned off before my turn and did not get turned back on till this morning I'm not sure how a 4 hour clock timed out on Astade this morning.
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| 283 | holt
ID: 341542412
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:40
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Dunno about you guys, but I've been checking in regularly on the draft just to make sure of what's going on. It would be careless just to assume we weren't drafting this weekend.
I'm getting pretty eager to finish this draft. I've got two more slow drafts starting up now.
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| 284 | Astade
ID: 5935164
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 12:11
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I had my queue set up and forgot to activate it.
Needless to say Gil Meche was #1 on it,..., I guess I should be more worried about that than sliding 3 draft spots ;)
btw, thanks DaBomb.
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| 285 | barilko6
ID: 31532814
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 16:37
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Hey Canada gives you more than Shania Twain, Rush, and Kids in the Hall.
We also brought you Insulin, Paint Rollers, The Telephone, 5 pin bowling, and The Wonder Bra.
Ok...and for those that could care less about inventions, Kristin Kreuk, Elisha Cuthbert, Evangeline Lilly, Erica Durance, and Rachel McAdams.
I would, on behalf of the entire country, like to apologize for giving you Keanu Reeves and Bill Shatner.
Now I am off to grab my knitted toque and Alexander Keith's and go 5 pin bowling.
Queue is set.
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| 286 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 16:53
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Glad it all worked. I did not turn on the clock until after 9 am this morning to give whoever's pick it was extra time (it was astade). I also emailed him to let him know the clock was on.
If there is an issue/problem, please email me astade. I think I've shown in the past that I am willing to work with managers to resolve glitches as they come up.
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| 287 | holt
ID: 341542412
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 21:18
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what's wrong with Shatner?
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| 288 | Perm Dude
ID: 45142812
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 22:21
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T J Hooker, anyone?
At least Scotty was Canadian.
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| 289 | Little Weasel
ID: 2721618
Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 13:13
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FYI fellas: I'll be around until 9pm EST Sunday, after that I'm out for the rest of the week with no PC access. If we're still going at that point, I've asked the Evil Commish to make my picks for me post-9pm Sunday.
Thanks Greg- 'preciate it.
Little Weasel
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| 290 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 09:56
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Lets finish this thing off today... everyone set up a nice que for their last pick.
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| 291 | barilko6
ID: 561222714
Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 14:59
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We're done! I would do a write about every team, but that might take me too long, and I am crunched for time.
My top 3 teams, in alphabetical order:
Barilko6
Da Bomb
Holt
If Tree had one more closer, or if he picks up a waiver wire closer early on, he would be in there as well.
Of course this is purely based on opening rosters and does not take into account who works the waiver wire the best, and we know that makes all the difference.
As for my team:
After a flurry of trades before the keeper deadline, I was setup with a young solid core of great players. I wanted all my keepers to be young, but was willing to keep Beltran and Berkman too.
With my first overall pick, I was targeting one of the leftover closers, and then either Nick Markakis or Alex Rios. Looking at the charts, I figured the OF's had more chance of dropping to 6, so I went old, Takashi Saito.
My starters are all way too young, and I hope at least 3 of the 5 young guys come into their own this season.
I have youth in bunches, from Ryan Braun, Troy Tulowitzki, Alex Rios, Howie Kendrick, and Jay Bruce, to Yovanni Gallardo, Chad Billingsley, and King Felix, to Papelbon and K-Rod, who seems like he has been around forever!
Worst case scenario: Braun and Tulo have sophomore slumps and my pitching never matures. One of my closers gets a serious injury.
Best case scenerio: All the young guys get better with more experience, and the pitching lives up to the hype and I win it all!
Good Luck all, and let the flaming of my post begin!!!
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| 292 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 15:20
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I think we've learned that Barilko really likes closers.
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| 293 | barilko6
ID: 561222714
Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 15:21
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I find that they close the deal.
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| 294 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 15:26
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Well this can be a case study in strategy. Since I have complete garbage for closers and you have all the studs. We'll have to see how that shakes out in the pitching categories. But I guess it also impacts hitting cause - for example - in those spots you could have taken another hitter.
Of course if I didn't trade away 5 draft picks, perhaps I would have gotten a decent closer early on! :)
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| 295 | revvingparson
ID: 291402817
Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 16:14
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Closers, who needs them, who cares, they simply make you pull your hair out night after night:)
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| 296 | holt
ID: 341542412
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 03:25
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closers. that position also caused me to draft two chicago cubs players. disgusting.
I honestly haven't had a chance to look over everyone's teams closely. I went straight from this draft right into 2 others.
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| 297 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 09:30
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Holt, why are you up so late each night? Do you work nights? are you on the west coast?
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| 298 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 09:41
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Looking over my roster, I think I accomplished most of my goals for the Dirty Dozen. I believe we are going into our 5th year? I have 1 8th place finish and 3 10th place finishes. In the keeper league I founded.
Of course going hard after 'established' (note this really reads aging) vets such as Wood, Thome, and Guerrero early on did not help much. And having an affinity to draft and trade away young rising stars such as Teixeira, Rollins and Reyes probably had about the same effect as the aging star phenom I was so into.
This draft I wanted to break away from that. Yes, I added Manny Ramirez in the off season. But I think most of the predictors are off on him. I firmly believe he'll have another 30 HR year. With that said, I went with a lot youth.
My goal was not to win this year but simply start to field a competitive team. I wanted to build a Tampa Bay Devils Rays type team: Constantly at the bottom of the pack. Nobody gives any thought to to them. But suddenly one year you look and say "Crap, he's got a ton of talent there."
Looking to finish 4th-6th this year and just keep building on that.
I should be competitive in SB and I think my RBi's will be competitive. Probably middle of the pack in HR's, BA and lower end in runs scored.
Who cares about predictig Saves. But I should do well in other pitching categories with a good young core of pitchers.
Favorite pick: Rafael Furcal in round 3
Least favorite pick: Evan Longoria over Edwin Encarnacion in round 14.
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| 299 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 12:34
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I was in a strange spot, cause the best value I could come up with (and mix of veteran and youth) happened to be every valuable Red Sox and Phillies player (except Papelbon, Manny).
I also was depleted on the draft pick front only having one pick in the first 4 rounds I believe so it was a LONG wait. I took Gordon for the obvious upside - but also to double my options of trading Ryan Howard since Gordon is a 1B/3B so I can look to trade Howard for a 1B or 3B and go from there.
I hoped to use one of my extra later picks on Bruce or Longoria. But thats alright cause I have those guys in other leagues and its good to mix things up.
Not having picks kind of forced me to go with the crappy closer strategy and boy did I run with it Todd Jones and George Sherrill!! whohoo!! :)
I'm pretty happy with my mid-round OF -> Franceour and Chris Young picks as I think they are both trending upward. Also scooped up Griffey late to mix and match in there for spot starts. Young's main problem is his AVG - but when you look a bit deeper into his stats (specifically his abysmal BABIP) I expect that to improve greatly up to the .275 range. 25/25 along with that would leave me very happy.
In addition to Howard, I'd like to move the very young (yet proven!) Cole Hamels... for comprable players not playing in Philly or Boston.
Nobody ever picks my team before the season starts cause I always make some peculiar choices, and I usually have to outwork everyone else as the season goes along. It will take a great effort (and luck) this season to earn me a trophy again.
I'm a big fan of Da Bomb Squad who has proven hitters - but especially for all that beatiful pitching - Webb, Kazmir, CY and Harang is sweet.
BH has a lot of boom or bust type players and his best pitcher is Matt Cain which scares me (as good as Cain is, I don't see him as a guy who should be leading a staff).
Barilko has a good squad, and a ton of closers!
Elsewhere I like the blend and balance on Rev and Holt's squads. Youth and upside of Khahan's....
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| 300 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 12:58
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I think Da Bomb is the team to beat this year. To be honest, I don't see how anybody could not pick him as the pre-season favorite based on projected stats.
I do think I may have the best set of keepers...for 2009. ;)
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| 301 | barilko6
ID: 29223510
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 13:15
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Sigh...
I guess we just wait it out until Da Bomb's keepers get old.
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| 302 | Great One
ID: 27154129
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 13:35
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His hitters aren't exactly young - Ortiz, Vlad (and certainly Sheff) are all question marks. Reyes and Arod are certainly rock solid, Corey Hart was a good young add... but Ortiz, Vlad, and Sheff don't really scare me. Ortiz's HR's have gone way down since they reconfigured Fenway too. And Vlad doesn't really run anymore.
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| 303 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 21:33
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This is pretty weird... and its not even my blog! philsox.com
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| 304 | revvingparson
Sustainer
ID: 059856912
Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 08:25
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I went into the draft seeking to blend speed and power, but also to trend towards youth over experience. The punting of saves was an after thought.
In some ways my team will probably be a middle of the pack team again, but it does have a bright future. I like my outfield with Matsui the greybeard, but plenty of upside with Sizemore, Upton, Victorino and Rasmus(debated with myself but since we don;t draft keepers his potential 5x5 talent was too much to pass up). My MI should be serviceable, but not great. My corners are pretty well anchored with Fielder and Zimmerman{hoping that the new stadium helps him up-tick his offense).
Pitching well I'm hoping that NY does not swallow Santana too much, Oswalt bounces back, Francis continues to master Coors, and of course Boof and Wandy lead the all name team.
Then theirs always the waiver wire and next years draft:)
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| 305 | revvingparson
Sustainer
ID: 059856912
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 08:48
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GO
I just got the 10.00 in the mail today, I had forgotten all about it with everything else thats been happening in my life this year.
Rev
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| 306 | Great One
ID: 1122611
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 08:55
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Sounds good, I'll be looking to put all those in the bank together on March 25th (Opening Day). Still missing a couple people.
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| 307 | blue hen
ID: 1777321
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 14:48
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I will pay for astade
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| 308 | Perm Dude
ID: 6253135
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 14:50
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GO: Are you still awaiting my check? I've lost track!
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| 309 | Great One
ID: 1122611
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 15:05
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You were one of the first PD, so you are all good.
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| 310 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 15:05
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[cough]
I would happily pay for Astade, but he missed the deadline, since I sent my money before he posted. He did make me laugh, however, and I will definitely buy him a $10 beer (read: Bud Light) next time he's in New York.
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| 311 | astade
ID: 241071315
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 15:34
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lol, thanks for being a good sport blue hen. I was going to write something smart like 'blue hen will owe me $$ anyways, after I demolish him this season...' but I don't want to endanger my frosty bud light.
GO, didn't you mention paypal as a possibility? how would i do that?
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| 312 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 15:37
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Does an American Bud Light actually qualify as beer?
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| 313 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 15:46
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Yeah. That $10 is not $10 Canadian.
Somehow, that joke isn't as funny as it used to be.
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| 314 | Great One
ID: 1122611
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 15:48
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PayPal you just use my email address and send a payment via credit card. Blue Hen just used it, so perhaps he can walk you through it cause I can't really see it on that side. Charge $11 to cover the fee and make no mention of fantasy sports cause its considered gambling.
no Barilko, Bud Light qualifies as flavored water.
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| 315 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 15:49
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I just bought $300 US for $301.43 Canadian.
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| 316 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 15:51
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Side bet with Barilko: if I finish ahead of you, you change your name to Polkaroo for a week. If you win, I go by Snuffy.
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| 317 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 16:20
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I will agree...however, since you chose my name to Polkaroo, its only fair that I get to pick yours.
Oopsy The Clown, an old Canadian Classic!
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| 318 | Great One
ID: 1122611
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 16:24
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I want a side bet!
I'll trade 1st round picks with you Hen - so beating each other would actually earn a higher draft pick for the winner.
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| 319 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 16:31
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Awesome. I'll be Oopsy for sure. That guy is cool.
Oopsy was here? In this thread? And I missed him? Again?
Great One - that's an interesting bet. But I'm actually planning to tank this season to get a high draft pick next year. No sense doing that AND losing the pick.
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| 320 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 16:51
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Planning to tank? And accepting our bet? Does that mean you think I am going to finish dead last to your second last?!?
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| 321 | Astade
ID: 5935164
Sat, Mar 15, 2008, 16:53
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Khahan,
Thank you setting up and running a great draft.
I looked at my Yahoo! lineup and everything looks good. Is my waiver priority from last year?
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| 322 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sat, Mar 15, 2008, 17:11
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Astade, thanks for the waiver priority reminder. I'll need to reset it to the proper order. Yahoo defaults to an order based on how we signed up for off line drafts
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| 323 | Great One
ID: 1122611
Wed, Mar 19, 2008, 15:25
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off the top of my head, i believe I am still looking for payment from the following...
Astade
Da Bomb
Holt
Khahan
I have the formal list at home with the checks and can double check then, but I thought I'd throw out a reminder before I forget.
And thats right folks - Blue Hen wasn't actually the last to pay - So congrats to him and maybe it'll bring him some good karma this season on his way to the top!
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| 324 | Astade
ID: 5935164
Thu, Mar 20, 2008, 00:04
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GO, payment sent.
Thank you for re-sending the instructions...I even gave you a lil' extra :)
btw, to all those that use RotoGuru, it's a good time to donate to the site.
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| 325 | holt
ID: 341542412
Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 23:07
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sending league dues through paypal GO.
can't believe the season officially starts tomorrow. seems strange. too bad it's just one game.
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| 326 | Great One
ID: 1122611
Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 09:22
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Got Astade's a few days ago. Holt, I'll keep a lookout for yours as well.
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| 327 | Great One
ID: 1122611
Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 13:25
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recieved Khahan's today as well...
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| 328 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 14:15
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Well that didn't take long to reach the top. Sorry guys, but I'm here to stay... ;)
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| 329 | Great One
ID: 4231419
Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 11:51
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Holt, I still don't see one posting for you but shoot me an email if you are having problems with the PayPal.
Everyone else is paid in full so we are good to go.
Good luck to everyone shooting for 2nd place (behind Blue Hen of course!). My squad showed some pop on Opening Day with like 5 HR's. I think I am gonna struggle in AVG (Franceour, Chris Young specifically) but I could expect this team to get double digits in all the other hitting categories.
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| 330 | barilko6
ID: 3732117
Tue, Apr 15, 2008, 15:18
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Blue Hen started to gain on me, so I had to pull the trigger and acquire the hot bat of the moment in Xavier Nady.
Here's hoping he's not this year's Chris Shelton.
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| 331 | Great One
ID: 233541511
Tue, Apr 15, 2008, 15:27
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It would certainly be an embarrassment to ever actually be chasing Blue Hen so I think we can all understand your efforts to stay ahead!
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| 332 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Tue, Apr 15, 2008, 15:48
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jesus...i've got a SLEW of OFs i'm willing to trade. some of them with proven track records! and you take Nady? lol
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| 333 | barilko6
ID: 3732117
Tue, Apr 15, 2008, 16:34
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I don't think you would have given me either Markakis or CLee for Wainwright...or maybe I should have offered that...hmm
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| 334 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 03:47
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Barilko - Although Webb has been great, so too has King Felix and it seems as if this may be the year he has a dominant campaign. With him being so young and realizing his potential, you may have won that trade starting even this year. I guess I began to lose patience with him after a couple relatively disappointing seasons. I do like Chris Young though, and he has looked good in 2 of his 3 starts. Must cut down on the walks though.
My pitching has been doing well for me up to this point, it's my hitters who have been disappointing and have me hitting .238. Ortiz and Reyes need to wake up!
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| 335 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 08:41
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Yeah, Webb has been amazing. It was tough to part with him, but I thought with Bedard coming in to take away pressure, King Felix would be able to step up his game.
The pick upgrade was key too, I liked moving from 3 to 6.
I couldn't keep Young anyways, so he was a throw-in in my mind.
We shall see how things play out!
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| 336 | holt
ID: 341542412
Sat, Apr 19, 2008, 13:08
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anyone interested in Mark Reynolds? I could use a decent backup MI type, but if all you can offer is something else then I'll at least look at it.
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| 337 | astade
ID: 1533770
Sun, Apr 20, 2008, 22:51
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Sorry for not being more active...
A quick study of past activity led me to this gem (see post 255).
I blame all other managers and the commish for allowing Barilko6 to move up the ranks at my expense.
How did you not reject that?!?! ;)
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| 338 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Sun, Apr 20, 2008, 23:29
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I'm gonna need another SS with Rollins out... would trade a pitcher or a young OF like Franceour or Chris Young or Ellsbury. Preferably someone that can backup a few positions when Rollins returns so its not just a 2 week rental.
I can package Stephen Drew with someone as well for and upgrade.
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| 339 | barilko6
ID: 213412019
Mon, Apr 21, 2008, 07:58
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Hey....Lieber had value back then. He was key to the deal.
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| 340 | Great One
ID: 233541511
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:26
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meanwhile... from the book of "never listen to Blue Hen about pitchers"
Chapter 1 Mark Prior
Chapter 2 Daniel Cabrera
Chapter 3
I got Rafael Soriano and Matt Cain, who were the two players I targeted as soon as keepers were selected. Boo yah.
I'll give you Soriano cause he got injured and that happens to the best of them.
Cain? The ace of your staff? your prized draft pick that we all missed out on?
5 games started. 0 wins. 2 losses. 5.27 ERA and 1.61 whip. Granted he pitched good enough to win 2 of those games... but the team hitting for him is completely useless, as I indicated above. Hitting .243 as a team and only 37 runs in 22 games.
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| 341 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:32
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And BH takes another hard shot to the head. How many more shots like that can he take before he crumbles in defeat?
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| 342 | Great One
ID: 233541511
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 16:12
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Speaking of shots to the head, in all seriousness I think Tree needs to get BH a couple decent tickets to ROH at the Hammerstein Ballroom in two weeks!
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| 343 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 16:28
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are you guys going? there's not a bad seat in the venue.
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| 344 | astade
ID: 1533770
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 23:52
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Tree,
Counter offer sent to you. Sorry for the delay, but I am usually buried in work during the week.
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| 345 | holt
ID: 341542412
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 07:10
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no interest in reynolds at all? 3b must be deeper than I thought.
22/81, 21, 7, 22, 1, .272
if he, wright, or chipper could get eligibility at some position other than third I'd be happy to keep him. I suppose he might be handy for when chipper does his annual DL thing.
just please don't offer any OF's. there is no room in the Inn.
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| 346 | holt
ID: 341542412
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 07:13
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GO - I paypalled you a while back. just want to make sure it went through ok.
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| 347 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 11:28
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I got it Holt, I sent an email to the address paypal said it came from (but not the one I normally have for you)... so perhaps thats why you didn't see it.
Tree - I have our tickets 2nd row balcony.
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| 348 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 11:31
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I like Reynolds but don't really have room either. Part of the reason I think this league should add an extra IF spot to accomodate all the extra good 3B/1B options we all have that wind up stuck in the UT spot daily (so they also indirectly affect everyone having extra OF's that could then slide in the UT spot).
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| 349 | holt
ID: 341542412
Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 04:30
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ya the e-mail I use for paypal is totally separate from the two e-mail accounts I normally use, just for safety sake. only thing I use it for is paypal.
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| 350 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Thu, May 01, 2008, 14:35
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I know have Victor Martinez for trade, though I'm assuming there isn't much of a market for a catcher since Geovany Soto made it to me on the waiver wire (9th slot?). But if you are in the market for a top catcher send me an offer.
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| 351 | barilko6
ID: 39343721
Sat, May 03, 2008, 08:30
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I guess I can say this now Khahan...I would have definitely put a claim in for Soto as I am in desparate need for catching, but I wanted a shot at Max, so I didn't want to drop my WW priority.
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| 352 | barilko6
ID: 39343721
Sat, May 03, 2008, 09:46
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And now I have Tulo and Yovani hurt, but Yahoo isn't placing either of them on the DL. Come on Yahoo! I need to pick up replacements to get back in this thing!
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| 353 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Wed, May 07, 2008, 23:48
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Just saw this now. Damn boards keep pushing it down before I see it.
Are you kidding me? I'm still pretty darn happy to have Cain. And with Hudson and Maine, I feel pretty good about my pitching staff.
And you've got a short memory. I think Oliver Perez had a 2004 in there somewhere. And I wish I could find some of the stuff I said about Jake Peavy. And Aaron Harang. And John Lackey. Now Jeremy Bonderman, that's another story.
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| 354 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Sun, May 11, 2008, 19:39
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Can we add your ranking of Soria "WAY below Gagne" to the list? To your credit, you acknowledge Gagne was certainly an all or nothing lottery ticket... but Soria has show he's pretty darn good and has 0 competition for his job. You say his track record is short, but I don't see Rafeal Soriano as having much more of a track record as a closer and you kept him.
I don't understand why you are happy with Cain as your top pick, but to each his own I guess. I see Maine as more of the ace for that trio.
I want to know Barilko's thoughts on all those closers now too.. keepers and 1st round picks to get 1 more point in saves? Don't think I even drafted one and we've got similar points.
Usually the arguemtent on top closers is they help in ERA/WHIP -- well... TJones and Sherrill do blow in those categories and I still have a 12 in ERA and 11 in WHIP. Why? because closers don't throw enough IP to make any large impact.
Now Barilko does have very good pitching numbers, but he's hurting on the hitting side. So on the surface you could say his hording of closers did their job - they nailed down pitching points. BUT if you reverse your thinking... had he picked some better hitters with those early picks, he wouldn't be struggling as much on the hitting side. That is my point of view.
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| 355 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Tue, May 13, 2008, 08:45
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Hey...I only used 1 first round pick!!! The other went to Alex Rios.
And its only May, give me time for the injured guys (Tulo, Kendrick, Wells) to get back to the field and start putting up their stats!!!
I have good bats on the team, they just need time to get their groove back...
I predict a top 3 finish for these guys!
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| 356 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Tue, May 13, 2008, 09:21
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Yes Barilko, but I believe you used the #1 overall pick to take a closer. And GO's point is still valid and unanswered. As for 'injured players,' until just Friday Wells was performing about as expected. How much did you really expect from Kendrick? And Tulo only went down the other week meaning you've had a months of production from him. Taking a hitter with the #1 slot would have added much better depth/protection across 3-5 categories than taking a closer to maybe push 1 or 2 extra points in 1 category.
So I'll reiterate GO's question because I'm curious too, "I want to know Barilko's thoughts on all those closers now too.. keepers and 1st round picks to get 1 more point in saves?"
Sorry, can't let you off that easy. ;)
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| 357 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Tue, May 13, 2008, 09:59
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I was missing this smack.
I do think Gagne will bounce back a bit. He's struggled but everybody struggles sometime. At least he's been fairly healthy.
You can't get on me for Gagne and Soriano without acknowledging Brad Lidge. I used a keeper slot on a closer, and also risked having a double whammy and it's worked out pretty good so far, right?
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| 358 | barilko6
ID: 9429138
Tue, May 13, 2008, 10:18
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Hmm...I am not so sure you can count Tulo's .152 average as production! haha
And as for Kendrick, Tree can attest to how highly I valued Howie this year, rightly or wrongly. But, I did also add Kaz Matsui and Jeff Kent as insurance.
You all know I am a big closer guy, I think they help in WHIP, K's, ERA, and of course the ever elusive saves category.
Now with all of this being said, considering I am currently sitting in 3rd place (knock on a huge piece of wood, very huge), I am not so sure how many of you have the right to question my strategies right now. If in a month I start to falter, (and I probably will!), then flame flame away. (And GO, don't go on with your I am in second place crap, blah blah blah, you are only 2 points up on me!) Soon I will be champ!!! (I hope) (As long as Lance Berkman keeps hitting as if he's facing Eric Gagne with each at bat)
And remember, Me and the future Oopsy Daisy of Rotoguru still have our side bet going, although with the way he welched on his NCAA Pool promise, I cautiously wait to see if this promise comes to fruition.
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| 359 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, May 13, 2008, 10:21
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No doubt Lidge is working out. I always liked him, just seemed he turned into a headcase the last 2 years. Lidge/Gagne were like the double lottery ticket... had to figure one or the other would work out so they kind of went together. Soriano is more the disappointing part cause you must have figured it was Soriano and then Lidge/Gagne as your #2.
I forgot this, but Barilko used an early pick on Bruce too (which I still think was a good move, maybe a round later)... and now seeing as he should be up before the ASB I think he's in a good spot. So he gave up a little offense the first couple months, but I think he's set up pretty well long term cause Bruce is gonna be a good one. Long term planning. Had I not had Alex Gordon, I probably would have scooped up Longoria along the same lines of thinking.
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| 360 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Tue, May 13, 2008, 12:08
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What side bet is that?
Actually, I was hoping that Lidge, Gagne, and Soriano would have 90 saves by August 1st and I could trade one or two of them for some hitters. Guess that didn't work out. You're right - Soriano sucks worse. With Gagne, I knew it was a risk. Soriano was supposed to be one of the best closers in baseball this year. I guess that didn't happen.
Don't forget - things change quickly in baseball. Mark Reynolds is now hitting .230.
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| 361 | barilko6
ID: 9429138
Tue, May 13, 2008, 12:43
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Side Bet:
blue hen
Barilko: if I finish ahead of you, you change your name to Polkaroo for a week. If you win, I go by Snuffy.
barilko6: I will agree...however, since you chose my name to Polkaroo, its only fair that I get to pick yours.
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| 362 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Tue, May 13, 2008, 12:47
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The polkaroo was here? And I missed him again?
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| 363 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, May 13, 2008, 15:02
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Good call GO, I was thinking of the Gagne/Soria comparison the other day. Percival has also been pretty good.
Meanwhile, my team is under performing, but I ain't panicking quite yet. I do have 55 out of 60 points in pitching, it's my hitting that's stunk. Since my post on April 17th, my average has 'skyrocketed' to a .252 clip. Reyes, Ortiz, and Vlad seem to be heating up, and when Arod comes back - it's over! ;)
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| 364 | barilko6
ID: 9429138
Tue, May 13, 2008, 16:40
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Yeah, Soria has been a major disappointment this year.
Who would everyone say is their biggest disappointment this year?
Mine is definitely Troy Tulowitzki.
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| 365 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Tue, May 13, 2008, 17:20
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Mine is blue hen.
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| 366 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, May 13, 2008, 18:47
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You misunderstood barilko. I was referring to the time during the draft when blue hen took Gagne and mentioned that he was a level above any remaining closers. Afterwards I drafted Soria, who, as we now know, has been great.
See posts 191,192, 197 and then 209.
I'd say my biggest dissapointment so far is is Sheff. I drafted him thinking he'd have a big year with the bat, and I think he could have one if he was healthy, but he has some serious shoulder issues.
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| 367 | barilko6
ID: 9429138
Tue, May 13, 2008, 19:58
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Oh no...I totally meant SORIANO was a disappointment! My bad
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| 368 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Wed, May 14, 2008, 22:47
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Dammit, Lidge let in a run last night.
Still let in a save. And Matt Cain was pretty great, wasn't he?
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| 369 | holt
ID: 341542412
Fri, May 23, 2008, 15:07
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smoltz is definitely my team's biggest disappointment. my team didn't need another closer. I'm going to have to deal one or two of em at some point.
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| 370 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Fri, May 23, 2008, 15:27
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Ryan Howard finally waking up... just like last year. And Rollins finally back should help my SB problems.
Glad I had the guts to make Dice-K and Ellsbury keepers. Certainly rolled the DICE! oh...
Good thing I didn't give Ryan Howard away for Fausto Carmona or something ridiculous like that.
(B101 reference for those in both)
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| 371 | barilko6
ID: 114431512
Wed, May 28, 2008, 08:28
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With Jay Bruce getting the call up, I now have some extra hitting that I would like to package with some pitching to upgrade my pitching.
Will send some offers out later toady, but posted this here so that you all know my intent in case you want to send me an offer!
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| 372 | holt
ID: 341542412
Wed, May 28, 2008, 19:58
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who are you looking to move barilko?
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| 373 | barilko6
ID: 1435297
Thu, May 29, 2008, 08:41
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Prefer to move an OF and a SP. I don't really have too much depth at the other positions until my DL list looks a little emptier.
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| 374 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sat, May 31, 2008, 02:00
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And Tree cuts ties with Saltalamacchia!
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| 375 | barilko6
ID: 114431512
Sat, May 31, 2008, 08:19
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Is that the first non-injured keeper to be released???
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| 376 | Tree
ID: 13432317
Sat, May 31, 2008, 08:35
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i hated doing so. i still think he's going to be a REALLY good catcher.
but with some of my other guys struggling like they were, i felt like someone had to go. i mean jeez, V-Mart and Markakis are both hitting .222 over the last month, and Encarnacion is at .159 for the same time frame, i just couldn't afford to sit on my roster anymore.
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| 377 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sat, May 31, 2008, 12:49
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I do hope V-mart turns it around for you. Carlos Lee is still posting a sub-standard BA (.257 since I got him). But in that same time frame he has 5 HR, 3SB 11 Runs and 29 rbi's. Can't really complain. But a lot of guys who are considered round 1-3 picks just aren't living up to expectations this year.
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| 378 | barilko6
ID: 114431512
Mon, Jun 02, 2008, 09:52
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Shame on anyone who badmouthed my Jay Bruce pick during the draft!
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| 379 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Mon, Jun 02, 2008, 11:40
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Count me on that list. Of course, he's had his run, so I hope you're in first place.
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| 380 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 09:49
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What do you mean Bruce had his run? You expect this is the only burst of production he'll provide all year? Should I be trading him away in other leagues where I am getting big offers?
Congrats to Joe Mauer for his first HR of the year. That gives him a combined 1 HR + SB!
Meanwhile, my questionable keeper keeps on chugging...
Stat of the Week
Between the seventh inning Friday and the fifth inning Saturday, Boston's Jacoby Ellsbury stole six bases against the Orioles.
In 24 hours, Ellsbury stole more bases than Derek Jeter, Eric Byrnes, Melky Cabrera, Ryan Freel and Alfonso Soriano have stolen all season.
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| 381 | barilko6
ID: 1353938
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 10:14
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6 freaking stolen bases in one series? Dang...
Yeah, I don't know about Bruce having his run. I see him as a long keeper prospect with similar projections to Ryan Braun. If someone offers me a mid-level pitcher for him, I probably won't include any comments in the rejection reply.
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| 382 | Perm Dude
ID: 1151839
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 10:18
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I, for one, thought Bruce to be a guy who will contribute for some time, but thought he wouldn't be up until the ASB. Cincinnati's OFs had excellent spring trainings and I thought his way would be blocked until the ASB. But injuries and production falling off in generally opened it up for Bruce.
A good medium risk/high reward pick.
So long as he plays half his games in Great American Ball Park he's going to get some gaudy numbers.
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| 383 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 10:32
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Actually, he stole 6 bases in a span of 8 innings...
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| 384 | barilko6
ID: 1353938
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 10:34
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Agreed, Bruce is tearing the cover off the ball as of now, and his value is on the high side, and he is playing in a nice hitter's park. I too didn't expect him to be up and producing this early, so that is a bonus, but looking far down the road, I wouldn't say that he's "had his run".
Part of being successful in fantasy baseball is getting in on the ground floor on guys like Ryan Braun, Jay Bruce, and in years long ago A-Rod, Hanley, Pujols, etc, etc, etc.
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| 385 | Perm Dude
ID: 1151839
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 10:42
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That trade between Khahan and I include a draft pick swap. The complete trade is:
Khanan trades:
Carlos Pena
Ryan Luckwick
2009 7th round draft pick
PD trades:
Adrian Gonzalez
2009 3rd round draft pick
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| 386 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 12:08
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Trade confirmed. Thanks PD.
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| 387 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 12:39
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Why do you keep mentioning Mauer? Is it because you're trying to trade for him? If he's so bad, why even offer?
Besides, Mauer is hitting .319. He's not the reason I am struggling. Rickie Weeks. Travis Hafner. Daric Barton. Troy Glaus. Nick Swisher. Eric Gagne. Rafael Soriano.
My Dirty Dozen team is having a miserable year, but Joe Mauer does not appear to be the reason.
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| 388 | barilko6
ID: 1353938
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 12:51
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Is it just me, or did Hafner all of a sudden get really bad when they started looking for steroid evidence?
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| 389 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 12:57
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I sent an offer for Mauer based on his name brand value and my need for AVG hitters... but I didn't realize how average (pun!) he's been the last 2 years. He's basically evolved into Jason Kendall of a few years ago. And he's certainly not ahead of McCann, Molina, Soto, Martin, Victor, Doumit or a healthy Posada at this point. He provides a good AVG and plenty of runs... no power, no steals, average RBI's. O's in those categories really pull your overall numbers down. Just ask Juan Pierre owners who struggle to fix RBI's/HR's all season long.
Side note - how does Victor Martinez have 0 HR's as well?
Gutsy call alert... I'm benching Ryan Howard the next two days vs. Harang and Volquez. Lord I hope this doesn't come back to bite me. I've been taking chances like this all year though, been burned a few times but have been trying to play the matchups/splits and igore "the name on the back of the jersey" this season more than ever.
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| 390 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 12:58
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Sure glad Ref didn't take my Jason Bay for Hafner offers I was pushing earlier in the year in G20.
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| 391 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Thu, Jun 12, 2008, 13:17
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I have now left crappy Doumit on the bench for 4 HR's in 3 days.
Anybody want him or Posada? these lineup decisions are killing me.
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| 392 | holt
ID: 341542412
Thu, Jun 12, 2008, 20:39
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haha - I knew BH would pick up ollie perez eventually. best wishes with him. worst good pitcher ever!
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| 393 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Wed, Jun 18, 2008, 10:27
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Went to see my entire Dirty Dozen team play last night in Philly. Citizen's Bank Park was very nice... highly reccomend to anyone wanting to catch a game. Just about any seat is good, easy to get in and out of the parking, right off of RT95, great food (cheesesteaks, crab fries and BBQ in addition to standard ballpark fare).
On a side note, Jon Lester was great last night. Its a shame I benched him fearing a shootout. It was also nice to watch his ERA continue to drop with each out all the way down to 3.18 -- I mean he's no Matt Cain. But he's pretty good I think :)
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| 394 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Wed, Jun 18, 2008, 17:18
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Damn GO why are you coming to Philly and not calling me?
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| 395 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Fri, Jun 20, 2008, 10:24
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Well I work right across the border in Princeton, so anytime you come up with some extra tickets! :)
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| 396 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Sat, Jun 21, 2008, 20:32
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Wait just one second. I will never profess to be a better fantasy player than Great One - the numbers bear it out.
However, I am going to claim superiority at geography right now. Princeton is NOT "right across the border" from Philly.
That said, come up the other way and let's hit one of the New York stadiums (or even Staten Island) sometime.
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| 397 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 09:44
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If its not that close, how can I hit up Steve's Prince of Steaks for lunch from work?! :)
Tree, time to hop off the Salt lick again?
Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Tex, 1/C – Considering the recent call-up of catcher Max Ramirez, who was sitting on a fat 1.121 OPS for Double-A Frisco before getting the call, it's a bad time for Salty to be struggling. In his past 10 games, Salty is 4-for-35 (.114) with just one RBI and 14 strikeouts.
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| 398 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 10:02
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But seriously, its only about 45 minutes to get downtown Philly from here (We hit up Steve's near Oxford Valley in 25-30 minutes). I'd say thats "right across the border", no?
I don't think Utley has gotten a hit since I went to the damn Sox/Phillies game... did I jinx him or what?!
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| 399 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 10:41
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Steve's? isn't that the right near ROH's philly venue?
as for Salty, yea, maybe he's all hype, which is sadly disappointing in so many ways.
blah. this, has been a disappointing fantasy baseball season for me all around so far.
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| 400 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 11:20
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The Oxford Valley Mall one is just north of Philly and yeah, about 10 minutes north up Route 1 (aka Roosevelt Blvd) from the ROH venue.
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| 401 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 11:29
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ah, yea, there's also a Steve's about 2 minutes from the venue.
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| 402 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 11:40
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Yeah, thats further into Philly. The opposite direction of my way home going north or towards the PA Turnpike.
I'd like trade one of my pitchers combined with one of the following young guys for a more established (not neccessarily keeper) OF. This could include Dice, Bedard, Max Schrezer or even Volquez -- paired with Franceour, Headley, Alex Gordon, Chris Young etc -- Also looking for one more closer. Doesn't have to be very good, just has a steady closing job.
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| 403 | Perm Dude
ID: 33540241
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 12:01
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Not far from my old stomping grounds, in Hunterdon County.
How many keepers next year? 7 again?
I'm happy to move Cano, BTW. I'm asking for a ham sandwhich, on wheat, with lots of lettuce & brown mustard. Pickle optional.
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| 404 | Perm Dude
ID: 33540241
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 12:18
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Crossing trades, GO!
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| 405 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 12:35
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Replied via email. And yeah, I believe its 7 keepers.
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| 406 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 12:51
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45 minutes? Come on. Start in Camden and drive 45 minutes down 95. You'll hit 4 states.
Granted, I can drive 45 minutes in Manhattan and only go about 3 or 4 miles.
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| 407 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 21:12
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Nice spot start with Arroyo BH! ;)
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| 408 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 23:12
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Arroyo allowed the most earned runs in a single inning pitched - since 1900!
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| 409 | Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sat, Jun 28, 2008, 08:23
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Hey all,
I just got back from vacation. I noted a few trades done and suspect some of them involve draft picks. Please post the picks involved here and email me any picks so I can record them for next year.
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| 410 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Sun, Jun 29, 2008, 15:41
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Hey, win some, lose some. I've done alright with the spot starting, I'd say. That hasn't been my problem.
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| 411 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Wed, Jul 02, 2008, 14:59
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Cain was lights out yesterday... whats up Hen?! Give the man some props for god sakes. You gotta pump up your team every now and then.
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| 412 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Fri, Jul 04, 2008, 10:16
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Lester my man... left you on the bench, then realized it and said no big deal - it'll be a shootout with the Yanks anyway. Then you shut them down.
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| 413 | astade
ID: 1533770
Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 22:33
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Tree, just got your offer. Still looking into it... sorry my weekdays are pretty busy.
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| 414 | Khahan
ID: 1065339
Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 10:10
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Looking to move some OF bats. Have the likes of Manny Ramirez, Carlos Lee etc to offer. Have some closers to move, too.
Bottom feeder looking to improve hisdraft or keeper list for next season. Sorry, guys in AA or with 10major league at bats are not considered 'improvements.' Its the kind of crap that got me where I am.
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| 415 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 10:40
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I'd like to thank all of you for helping Matt Cain prove me right.
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| 416 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 10:46
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You predicted your ace would be 5-8 with a 4.08 ERA and 1.34 WHIP? You were spot on then...
I think i said it would be hard for him to win 14 games. I should have said 10!
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| 417 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 10:50
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yeah, even with a complete game shut out his ERA is still above 4
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| 418 | Perm Dude
ID: 126252614
Sat, Jul 26, 2008, 19:11
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The trade just accepted includes a swap of draft picks. The full trade is:
Da Bomb trades:
CJ Wilson
10th round pick
to Perm Dude for
Rafael Betancourt
8th round pick.
DB, confirm when you get a moment.
pd
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| 419 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sat, Jul 26, 2008, 19:47
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Confirmed.
At least I got something!
Was getting pretty tired carrying 6 closers with 5 spots while having a 30 save lead over second place.
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| 420 | blue hen
ID: 86502521
Sun, Jul 27, 2008, 12:19
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He's among the league leaders in strikeouts. I'm much more disappointed in Maddux than Cain.
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| 421 | Great One
ID: 10658208
Mon, Jul 28, 2008, 11:55
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Jon Lester... now there's a pitcher! 2nd time in a row he's shut down the Yanks.
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| 422 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 11:07
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BH, do you have an obsession with 1B or what?! :)
Another good start for Cain, he just need some run support.
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| 423 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 14:52
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Or what.
But yeah, four on the bench and another at DH. It's definitely a trend. Mike Jacobs is available or a mid-round - oh wait a minute, wrong league.
It occurs to me that we have large benches in this league, and I really kind of like that. It lets you stash the guys you think you'll want.
Cain is doing quite well at this point. I had him in TSN for that start. Lester's got the numbers, but I prefer Cain. There's some fodder for you in a couple years. I also preferred Ryan Kohlmeier a couple years ago, so who am I to judge?
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| 424 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 15:02
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All of the following are available to package for a top (keeper level) OF.
Robby Cano (or if its a top guy I'll move Kinsler and keep Cano myself)
Dice-K
Doumit
Bedard
Matsui
Kershaw
Zumaya (now closing!)
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| 425 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 15:15
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What he said:
Joe Mauer
Troy Glaus
Miguel Tejada
Jermaine Dye
Scott Rolen
Mike Jacobs
Todd Helton
Salomon Torres
Jonathan Broxton
Heath Bell
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| 426 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 14:23
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BH - while those bench spots are nice, wouldn't it have been even better to have an extra IF spot (and one less bench spot) so we all just don't have these people rotting away on our benches? Seems like everybody had extra 1B/3B we couldn't quite squeeze in the lineup, which really hurts trading.
Same problem in Baseball 101 for what its worth.
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| 427 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 14:28
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Personally, I'm in a lot of leagues like that. I like this because it mixes it up a bit. But I'm not particularly tied to anything.
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| 428 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 17:00
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Seems like everybody had extra 1B/3B we couldn't quite squeeze in the lineup
I didn't ;)
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| 429 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 17:13
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(said the one with five superstar outfielders)
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| 430 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Thu, Sep 25, 2008, 15:26
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Peter Gammons calls Brad Lidge and Joe Mauer the two most indispensable players in baseball. As you know, those were my final two keepers this year. Even though it was a pretty terrible season for myself, I can take some consolation there.
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| 431 | Great One
ID: 428262410
Thu, Sep 25, 2008, 16:19
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Thats all well and good for building a "real" team, but they aren't the most indispensable when it comes to fantasy. Catchers and relief pitchers just don't have enough of an impact on the overall stats. Reminds me of the joke headline I saw about Jeter "Yankees Win with Jeter Walkoff Intangible" Just look at Mauer, his AVG and Runs are awesome, yet you only scored a 6 in runs and 2! in AVG. Keeping a closer? you scored 1 more point in that category than me - I didn't keep or even draft a closer til the last couple rounds lol... as illustrated with Barilko. And his theory was that they would help him dominate K's WHIP and ERA -- but you both got beat in those categories.
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| 432 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Thu, Sep 25, 2008, 16:34
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I don't think that's entirely fair. Lidge was certainly quite helpful to my team. More helpful, in my estimation, than Nick Markakis would have been. And my 2 in AVG is more due to Dunn, Swisher, and Weeks (and a lousy Carl Crawford season) than to Mauer.
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| 433 | Chuck
ID: 152261223
Fri, Sep 26, 2008, 03:52
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Hey guys... just checking in and wondering how the old league is going.
For the record, if a spot does open up this offseason to hop in, I would be interested in joining back up. Just drop me a line if something opens. Thanks!
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| 434 | Khahan
ID: 1065339
Fri, Sep 26, 2008, 16:31
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Hey Chuck good to hear back from you. If a spot opens old managers get first priority.
As for BH I agree 100% with GO on this one. Mauer's value in a draft is that he provides better stats than most other players at his position. But lets face it, the final counts don't give extra credit for HR's from a catcher.
His BA was great but he had 9HR (and no reason to expect significantly more). 92 runs is very nice and 82rbi's is decent. But lets face it, how many players in the pool out there have the potential to bat .300, hit 20+ HRs and have 85-95 runs and HR?
As for lidge, he contributes 1 category (maybe 2. 89K's can make a difference but only 67.1 innings is not enough to really affect whip/era). I would never keep a closer even a Putz or Papelbon. I can serve my categories better by keeping a good starting pitcher who can contribue W's K's whip and ERA.
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| 435 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Fri, Sep 26, 2008, 17:34
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My best starter last year was Aaron Harang. Should I have kept him?
And I think it's great to have Joe Mauer and whatever outfielder you can find on waivers vs. Nick Markakis and Bengie Molina. At least this year, because the outfielder I found on waivers was Jermaine Dye.
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| 436 | Great One
ID: 12858611
Fri, Sep 26, 2008, 18:22
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No doubt its easier to find a random OF cause there are so many... of course I got Doumit for free! Damn I just looked too - Bengi Molina? .294 15 HR's and 94 RBI's, nice season At the start of the season, I would have said keep Harang of Lidge for sure, of course he was a disaster, but nonetheless. Assuming they both would have had good years, I'd rather have 3x as many good innings. Certainly of your keeper options, Mauer and Lidge were solid choices. Why can't I space properly in Google Chrome! :)
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| 437 | holt
ID: 29862517
Thu, Oct 02, 2008, 20:13
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OK so who do I send my address to? Better luck next year guys! :D
Not many closers I'd consider keeping (unless I just didn't have enough real keepers), but Nathan is a solid keeper in my book. I expect I'll be keeping McCann too (153/509 68 R 23 HR 87 RBI 5 SB .301). He may be the first non-turd catcher I've ever had in fantasy baseball.
Just noticed that I only had 2 pitchers with more than 7 wins (Lincecum 18, Burnett 11). I got 23 wins from relief pitchers, 29 from Lincecum and Burnett, and the 41 other W's came from the other 23 starting pitchers I used.
Lincecum is a Monster, in case anyone didn't notice.
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| 438 | Great One
ID: 2936213
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 08:56
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Winners can send me addresses... I've got the pot.
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| 439 | barilko6
ID: 48563014
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 08:57
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Pot? Damn, I would have tried harder then.
Oh, and Blue Hen, I think starting on Monday, you have to post as Oopsy Daisy for the full week.
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| 440 | Great One
ID: 2936213
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 08:58
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Awesome!!
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| 441 | barilko6
ID: 48563014
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 09:04
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barilko6
ID: 180102816
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 16:20 I will agree...however, since you chose my name to Polkaroo, its only fair that I get to pick yours.
Oopsy The Clown, an old Canadian Classic!
319 blue hen
ID: 16322314
Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 16:31 Awesome. I'll be Oopsy for sure. That guy is cool.
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| 442 | Oopsy Daisy
ID: 30311814
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 10:46
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I think this is going to get a bit confusing.
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| 443 | Khahan
ID: 1065339
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 10:49
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Does this name get to carry over to next season's team name?
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| 444 | barilko6
ID: 48563014
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 11:04
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Classic...
Tell you what Hen, just finish out today and we are good. But post lots!
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| 445 | barilko6
ID: 48563014
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 11:04
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Classic...
Tell you what Hen, just finish out today and we are good. But post lots!
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| 446 | Oopsy Daisy
ID: 30311814
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 11:30
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For some reason, it keeps changing my name back to "blue hen." That's annoying, because Oopsy Daisy is hard to type.
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| 447 | Khahan
ID: 1065339
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 13:04
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I think Hen's team name next year should be Oopsy Hens or blue hen's daisies. In fact I'm not sure I'll honor his draft picks next season if his team name doesn't reflect this bet! Hah.
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| 448 | holt
ID: 29862517
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 13:05
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"fresh as a daisy"
- Bob Mckenzie
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| 449 | Oopsy Daisy
ID: 30311814
Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 13:16
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I should probably have made the bet in a sport I'm better at... like lawn bowling.
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| 450 | blue hen
ID: 299161612
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 19:14
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Man, it's been over a month. All you Mets fans and other chokers haven't posted anything in a while. I can tell you're pretty afraid of my powerhouse team.
I'm looking to make some deals. Anyone interested in Daric Barton or Placido Polanco? It'll cost you a mid-level pick.
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| 451 | holt
ID: 25923117
Sun, Nov 16, 2008, 21:59
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pass
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| 452 | blue hen
ID: 299161612
Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 10:42
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(actually, it was a joke from G20 - we all know Daric gets a better pick than "mid-level")
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| 453 | holt
ID: 25923117
Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 02:43
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I figured it was a joke of some kind.
Nice to see Pujols pick up another MVP btw. I'll trade for Pujols if someone wants to get rid of him.
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| 454 | blue hen
ID: 299161612
Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 10:10
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That'll cost you one mid-level pick.
I'm certainly interested in trading Pujols. His value is pretty high and I definitely need to get younger. But he won't come cheap.
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| 455 | Great One
ID: 4310251715
Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 10:32
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You should trade him for Pedroia... one MVP for another!
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| 456 | blue hen
ID: 299161612
Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 10:35
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Hey, wasn't Mauer the most valuable player in the AL this year? I thought I read that somewhere.
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| 457 | barilko6
ID: 48563014
Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 10:45
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We are moving up to 7 keepers this year, right?
I have lots of guys, young and old, that I would love to package up:
Lance Berkman
Joey Votto
Ryan Braun
Alex Rios
Vernon Wells
Jay Bruce
Cameron Maybin
John Lackey
Jon Papelbon
K-Rod
Jonathan Papelbon
Takashi Saito
Felix Hernandez
Chad Billingsley
David Price
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| 458 | blue hen
ID: 299161612
Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 10:52
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We had 7 keepers last year.
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| 459 | barilko6
ID: 48563014
Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 14:42
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Ahh...right.
Just a note. I am looking for either draft picks or to deal more players for less players.
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| 460 | Great One
ID: 10658208
Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 19:17
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GO's 2008 Offseason Plan
Keepers
Johan Santana
Josh Beckett
Dice-K
Ryan Howard
Jimmy Rollins
Ian Kinsler
For Sale (Keeping one of...)
Robinson Cano
Ryan Doumit
Conor Jackson
Ian Stewart
Chone Figgins
Mike Lowell
JD Drew
Ryan Church
Phil Hughes
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| 461 | Great One
ID: 151126410
Thu, Dec 18, 2008, 10:17
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I'd thinking of a proposal where we should start having the last place team pay for the Kafenatid draft the following season... thoughts?
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| 462 | Khahan
ID: 1065339
Thu, Dec 18, 2008, 15:57
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GO I normally pay for it and don't mind. However I was thinking of asking if we'd like to institute a lottery system in the next draft. Say the last 5 teams are in a lotto to determine draft order? That way there would be no incentive to tank it if you were near the bottom. You can play for pride w/out worrying about ruining your draft position next year.
But I'm open to suggestions and don't have a problem putting yours on the table. I'll store it and probably towards the end of Jan I'll open the 2009 discussion thread and post it there for review/vote.
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| 463 | Great One
ID: 151126410
Thu, Dec 18, 2008, 16:03
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There is an entry fee for this league, right? So we could just tack on a dollar each... no big deal. No reason you should get stuck paying. Lottery is a great idea (first round only of course). I'd probably only say the bottom 4 teams should be in the lottery though. Give them a weighted % something like --> 12th place 40% chance, 11th place 30% chance, 10th place 20% chance and 9th place a 10% chance. And only have it rearrange those 4 spots so the worst the last place guy could get is pushed down to #4 I don't think a team smack in the middle of the league should also have a shot at the #1 pick.
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| 464 | Perm Dude
ID: 3411241811
Thu, Dec 18, 2008, 16:43
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I've played in some leagues with lotteries, and I've never really understood their appeal from a strategic standpoint. The effect seems to be to give teams that didn't finish in last place a shot at the top draft pick, yes? I suppose that it would help some leagues in which a manager is obviously tanking to finish last and get that top pick, but I don't think wiggs or Weasel (the bottom two teams here) were doing anything like that. So a lottery will have the effect of possibly taking away the top pick from Weasel to another team (mine or Khahan if we're looking at the bottom 4).
I guess I just don't see this league as being the kind that would need a lottery to solve any problem.
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| 465 | blue hen
Dude
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Fri, Dec 19, 2008, 11:47
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PD, I think you just convinced me the other way. If you're, say, 10th, you might be inclined to give up. You'd be stupid not to, under the current rules. This makes the bottom part of the bracket interesting, and lets managers see how good they are even when they don't have the best players on their teams.
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| 466 | Khahan
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Fri, Dec 19, 2008, 12:49
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I will say if we do implement a lottery system, IT WILL NOT BE FOR THE 2009 DRAFT. This would be a change for 2010.
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| 467 | Great One
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Fri, Dec 19, 2008, 13:02
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Not proposing for here, just kind of a neat idea -- I was once in a league that had a really interesting concept that made a game within the game for all the teams that were out of it for that season. They basically had a "cut" (think golf)... come Sept 1st (I think it was), and it was either the bottom 4 teams, or teams within 20 points of last (or commish discretion?)... can't remember... those teams were then given the "cut" and they were now competing with each other for their first round draft pick. Whoever finished first out of those earned the first pick and so on. Of course you gotta ask the team -- do you think you still have a chance to finish in the money? if they agree they are done, they can opt in "the chase for the pick". It made the last few months interesting for my team that got buried by injuries. I worked my butt off to get up to the first pick the following season.
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