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0 Subject: Lucky 13 2008 Draft Discussion

Posted by: ChicagoTRS - [4110481415] Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 09:58

Ready for 08?
1ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 09:58
Lucky 13 Fantasy Baseball Rules

Basics:
• Season – Full Season
• Slow draft via message board
• 13 teams
• 26 players on a team +2 farmers
• Positions – C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, (3)OF, IF, Util
• 15 games to qualify at a position (Yahoo! rule)
• 162 games maximum per position
• Pitching – (8) Pitching slots – any combination of starters/relievers.
• Bench – 8 players (any combination hitters/pitchers)
• DL – 2 players maximum
• Traditional 5x5 Categories – R, RBI, HR, SB, OBP – W, Saves, SO, ERA, WHIP
• Maximum 1300 innings
• Minimum 900 innings – if the minimum innings are not met the team will receive only 1 point in ERA/WHIP categories. This does not effect other managers points.
• Roster Changes Daily
• Unlimited Moves
• Waiver Time – 2 days
• Waiver initial order is reverse of draft order
• Retroactive Stats – No
• Unlimited Trades
• Trade Deadline – TBD on what Yahoo allows, will be the second to last date Yahoo allows.
• Trade Reject time – 2 days
• The trade reject time can be waived if both trading managers request the waiver and the commissioner judges the trade as no chance of veto.
• Any manager can call for a veto vote via an email to the commissioner.
• The commissioner will not release the name of the manager requesting the vote.
• Commissioner will then email each manager individually for a veto vote
• Veto votes are YES or NO there are no conditions involved. It is not the role of the voters to fix the trade.
• Managers not casting a veto vote will not count either way towards the veto percentage.
• Veto = 50% or greater of owners casting votes not involved in trade
• If a trade occurs where there are an uneven amount of players swapped (example: 3 for 2) the manager must leave a roster spot open for the trade to occur. Yahoo! cancels trades if a roster spot gets filled. In the case of a trade getting canceled because of this situation it will be required that the trade is made again and the commissioner will commit the trade immediately and waive the wait time.
• If a manager deliberately attempts to sabotage the league the commissioner has the power to banish that manager from the league and freeze the teams roster. (dumping star players to free agency, ridiculous trades)

2ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 09:58
Draft:
• 27 Round Draft
• 26 man rosters plus 2 farmer reserves
• Farmer explanation:
• Farmer = 0 major league experience
• Drafted in any round of the draft
• Each team is allowed one farmer pitcher and one farmer hitter
• Can be retained for the season they are brought to the majors and the following season if they are never released
• If the player is not brought to the majors during the season the following year the manager can choose to retain the player as a farmer or redraft another player.
• The 28th position will be a keeper. Keeper picks will be due before the start of the draft.
• The player must have been drafted by a team in the previous draft between rounds 14-27 and never been released as a free agent. Free agents not allowed. The player must be on your roster by the trading deadline and on the end season roster. Keeper eligible players retain their keeper status when traded. Keepers can only be kept for one year.
• Draft initial order will be random
• Inverse Rounds Draft Order (snake draft)
• Draft Trading Allowed – http://www.kffl.com/draftanalyzer/index.php
• Trades involving the highest draft pick in the first 5 rounds, the trade must be within 1000 points using the draft calculator
• Trades involving the highest draft pick in rounds 6-15, the trade must be within 500 points using the draft calculator
• Trades involving the highest draft pick in rounds 16-27, the trade must be within 100 points using the draft calculator
• 6 hour time limit with the clock off between 2am eastern and 8am eastern
• 12 hour time limit on the weekends no clock off time
• Starting in the 20th round there will be a 4 hour time limit
• If a manager has back to back picks they are allowed one time period and then both picks are skipped.
• Once a manager is skipped because of running out of time subsequent picks for that manager do not get a new time period until the manager makes their missed picks.
• Trades do not reset the time clock. The time is associated with the pick and not the manager.
• If a pick is skipped because of time running out the pick can be made as soon as the manager shows up. Players picked after the missed pick are off of the board.
• If a manager drafts a player already picked the draft will continue with the next manager and the manager who made the duplicate can replace the duplicate pick at any time. Since the draft immediately continues players selected after the duplicate pick are off the board as far as the duplicate manager is concerned.
• In the case where a manager picks out of order or someone other than the manager picking make an incorrect pick (wrong queue, duplicate pick) and others make picks after the bad pick the draft will revert back to the place where the out of order pick was made.
• Once a pick is posted to the message board the pick is final…removing the post and repicking is not allowed.
• A manager can leave picks with another manager if they will not be available to pick. Queues are encouraged.
3ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 09:59
Farmer Specific Info

1) Each team is allowed one farmer hitter and pitcher.
2) They are drafted at any point during the normal draft.
3) To qualify for farmer the player must have 0 major league experience
4) I will put a list of teams farmers in the commissioners notes and will try and watch for farmers as they make the bigs...if you see one of your players called up...please post a message with your current waiver position and make a waiver claim on the player...I will waive the waiver time and fix the waiver order.
5) When a player is added to the Yahoo! DB once someone posts a public message that the player has been added you have 5 days to either claim or lose your rights to that farmer.
6) In the season the player is brought to the majors you can retain the rights to that player for the following season.
7) If the player does not see the majors...next draft you can choose to retain the player in your farmer spot or release him.
8) You can retain the farmer for as many years as you like while in the minors and still have 2 years rights when he joins the majors.
9) You can only keep one farmer hitter and pitcher a retained farmer still fills a slot.
10) Once Farmers make the majors if they are traded between fantasy teams they lose retention status.
4ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 10:01
Keepers and farmer retentions due: Friday Feb 15th

Draft order will be set Feb 15th
Draft will unofficially start as soon as the draft order is set.
Draft will officially start Feb 18th

Changes for this year: OBP replaces Avg,
clarification of farmer rules
5ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 10:04
Draft will officially start Feb 18th 8am est
6Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 10:06
so far...

Great One
Keeper = Troy Tulowitzki, SS, COL
Farmer Retained = Billy Butler, 1B, KC
Farmer Released = Jeff Samarzigda, P, CHC

Barilko
Late Round Keeper: Nick Markakis
Farmer Keeper: Alex Gordon
Pitcher Released: Scott Elbert

Rob J
Keeper: Brad Hawpe
Pitcher Farmer: Dice-K
Hitter Farmer: Jay Bruce

TRS
Keeper: Francisco Liriano
Pitcher Farmer: Yovani Gallardo
Hitter Farmer: Jose Tabata (not 100% sure if I will retain or not)

Art
Keeper:Curtis Granderson
Farmer Hitter: Cameron Maybin (or do I need to put him on my roster)
Farmer Pitcher: adam Miller - I would like to retain him at this point or can I change my mind later.

Wiggs
Keeper: Russell Martin
No Farmers

Slizz (new team)
No keepers or farmers, clean slate
7barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 11:36
I have requested a draft from Kafenatid. It might be tricky with our keeper rounds though. Not all the teams will have the same about of farmers/keepers, which will be hard to enter into Kafenatid, unless I use a placeholder.
8Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 13:58
Perhaps we come up with a list of completely ridiculous players that absolutely nobody will be drafting? and slot them into the 10-15 empty spots? Let me know how many holes you got and I can work on this list.
9barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 14:03
Yeah, placeholders shouldn't be too difficult to come up with. The difficulty would be that some guys would have more keepers than others, which would create some problems when setting up the draft, as the keepers would have to be inserted in the first couple of rounds.

Suggestions?
10Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 14:11
Request to Fred that he add players such as "A. Placeholder", "B. Placeholder" etc?

or if he can offer another solution? That basically not everyone has somebody for those rounds.
11ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 10:30
League is created:

Lucky 13

I think I will need email addresses from everyone...lost most from a computer crash...
12ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 10:33
Draft order set:
1 wiggs
2 Chicagotrs
3 barilko
4 great one
5 toral
6 wolfer
7 artfor the hall
8 wazaaap_guy
9 jackhammers
10 Pancho Villa
11 sR
12 robJ
13 slizz
13wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 10:37
so are we good to go here?
14Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 10:49
Once TRS gets all the emails, he is gonna send out the Kafenatid and Yahoo signup info.
15 wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 10:50
<-----email
16Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 10:55
We also need to figure out how to enter the keepers, farmers into Kafenatid since we have uneven amounts.

Barilko asked Fred about using placeholders - the other option is to put the keepers/farmers at the very end. The tricky part of that is making sure nobody mistakenly drafts these people before that time.
I would be comfortable with that myself, just post a list in the draft thread and everyone could cross those guys off their lists. Then when we get to the last 3 rounds, either you would pick your respective keeper/farmer or you would just use up your last pick on whoever.
17 Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 11:07
I'd likely trade down from #4 pick if someone is interested in jumping up.
18Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 11:19
Why do i gotta be last? :/

I love draft day, can't wait to start...dont laugh if I reach on any players :)
19Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 11:22
But remember, you are the first guy with TWO good players... so think of it that way.
20art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 12:21
it is great to reach for players, otherwise you could just do an autodraft, but what fun is that. I reached last year several times and it didn't work.
21 wolfer
      ID: 24148211
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 14:12
email address.
22Rob J
      ID: 591571111
      Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 18:46
#12 pick, it was sweet seeing the draft board up.
23ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 11:23
http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/lucky13

link

pw is rotoguru

sign up!

GO or barilko post the Kafenatid info...

We also need to list all of the keepers/farmers...

25Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 11:36
lets draft already!
26Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 11:36
Link not working right for some reason. Use the Sign Up Now Link and a custom league with the below...
71653
rotoguru
27Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 11:37
I hear that! Wiggs told me he is all ready to take Roger Clemens #1 :)
28Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 12:00
To sign up for the league draft, please go to Kafenatid Draft Website
and click on the "Register For a Draft" link.
League ID: 211
League Password: gojays

You'll need to register with Kafenatid first if you are not yet a member.
29Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 12:26
Update
Please sign up at both Yahoo and Kafenatid. As soon as that occurs, we can begin drafting.

I posted the list of unavailble players in the draft thread. These guys are off the board for draft purposes. At the end of the draft we will address the carried over keepers/farmers.
For example, Pancho Villa is carrying over Ken Griffey Jr - he will just pick him in the last round. Slizz/Toral don't have anyone carried over. They are free to pick anyone they want in those corresponding rounds. We couldn't enter these names at the beginning of the draft because each team has an uneven amount.
30Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 13:18
"Dry Gulch Canyons" on Yahoo! is Toral.
31 barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 13:51
Does anyone need a quick info session on how to use the Kafenatid site?

If so, ask here, or shoot me an email and I will give you the Coles Notes Version.
32Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 14:08
Yeah, if you've never used it before you'll come to understand how great a system it is.

And once we are all in, everyone should designate a couple people as "designated pickers" which means they will get an email when you are on the clock as well. When they check the board they will see the top name on your que and can submit the pick for you to keep it rolling.

Another nice tool is being able to see everyone else's rosters on a chart as you go along. Then you can get a feel for what positions you should be targeting. i.e. "there is one good catcher left and everyone but me and the one guy picking after me has a C... I better pick him up here to make sure I get one"
33 Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 14:14
I'm still looking to trade down out of my #4 overall pick. I am looking in general to add a variety of picks in the 3-6 range.
Draft Pick analyzer for trade balance
34Rob J
      ID: 591571111
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 14:34
I might be interested Great One, just depends on who goes third!
35Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 14:44
It'll give someone the best 1-2 combo in the league... thats for a sure. And in a league this deep having two 1st round talents could be huge.

I probably won't do anything til the pick is up, then I'll go through the offers and pick the best.
36ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 14:50
I am willing to trade down from #2...

make an offer...
37barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 14:58
Rob J, send me an email. I can tell you who is going to go third. :)
38Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 15:13
The Lucky 13 War Room!
39 Rob J
      ID: 591571111
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 15:29
Hi barilko, not sure what your email is so I posted mine here. I'm not as sure about trading now with all this talk about how great it is to have the two late first roundstars as opposed to one big star and one second round star; but we all must remember its only a fictitious baseball league so we'll see.
40 barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 15:51
I don't think I am looking to move down, but seeing as how I have the third pick, I have a really good idea who is going to go third!
41wiggs
      ID: 51013815
      Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 16:02
i am willing to move out of number 1 if anyone wants to move up.
42wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 08:52
trade announcement

my 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 10th and 12th
for GO's 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 10th and 12th
43Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 09:04
Trade Confirmed.

Sorry Barilko! thats gonna take a while to rearrange those picks haha...
44Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 09:08
I'm also gonna put the trade in the "Draft Thread" here on the board.
While we won't be putting every pick in there... I'm thinking we should still use it for a few things.

1. The undraftable list (already there)
2. Any trades
3. When you select a farmer, please post it there after you select him on Kafenatid.
That way we have a permanent record to refer to.

I'm also thinking we should post in there when that guy is called up throughout the season since we lose all that info from the Yahoo messages after the season. Essentially that thread will be used until this time next year for record keeping.
45barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 09:20
Not off to a great start...still need half the managers to log into Kafenatid! lol

s Z
wiggs
Toral
wolfer
barilko6
Great One
ChicagoTRS

Have logged in, leaving these managers AWOL:

Slizz
Rob J
Wazzup Guy
Pancho Villa
Art For the Hall
Jackhammers


To sign up for the league draft, please go to Kafenatid Draft Website
and click on the "Register For a Draft" link.
League ID: 211
League Password: gojays

46 barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 11:07
I would be interested in picking up another first round pick.

Anyone looking to talk trade, send me an emai.
47Rob J
      ID: 491471515
      Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 21:48
I'm in
48Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 15:12
Barilko, who is still not in Kafenatid?
49barilko6
      ID: 191471615
      Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 16:49
Everyone is in now. I can set it up, give me a couple of minutes
50barilko6
      ID: 191471615
      Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 16:59
Alright,

Everything is set up on Kafenatid, including the trade between Wiggs and GO.

The draft is paused right now until we establish an official Draft Start time, but of course picks can still be made.

Make sure to check the keeper list in the other thread before picking!
51 wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Feb 17, 2008, 01:59
anyone looking to move up. I am willing to trade down again. email me . IF i dont get anything by tomorrow afternoon i will pick then.
52ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:06
Everyone be ready to draft...the clock is started...
53Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:16
Wolfer timed out? maybe we should not have the timer on til everyone makes their 1st pick?
54Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:17
I see - Barilko you need to change the Weekend Draft Pause to Monday at 8 AM (not 1 AM).
55art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:46
can we erase my pick, I didn't realize worlfer had been skipped. I will not be back online for 3hrs.
56Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:54
Then click on que management, put 2 names on the list and designate another picker (such as Barilko) so you don't time out yourself.
57Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 09:56
oh wait... wolfer picked... so it should be ok anyway pending him checking in.
58barilko6
      ID: 231102517
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 10:10
Sorry about the draft pause guys, didn't realize I hadn't set it yet.

Will make changes now. Due to holiday up here in Canada, I have limited access, and probably won't be back on until 6 or so.
59barilko6
      ID: 231102517
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 10:17
Great One, I have sent you the kafenatid league info, so you can go into the site and make any changes if I am not around to do it.
60Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 10:29
I edited the weekend draft pause from 11 PM Friday night until Monday morning at 8 AM.
61barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 15:15
Does Jackhammer know he is on the clock? Did we actually set an official starting time for this draft?

I don't think it would be fair to skip over him this early.
62barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 15:20
Alright, Jackhammer only had 45 minutes left, so I paused the clock until he hear from him.

Within reason...lol

Chicago, have you got his email? Maybe a reminder email would be good...
63Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 15:29
Yeah, thats what I was saying before. At some point we mentioned the clock would start this morning, but you certainly gotta let everyone make their #1 pick and then go from there.
Then you at least know they are aware that things are rolling along etc.
64art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 15:59
I never saw a spefici starting draft time, but we everyone knew we were starting today. I agree we have to wait for the 1st rd. pick.
65ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 16:00
I do not have his email. I am good with stopping the draft until he picks. I agree lets get through a round and then everyone knows...
66barilko6
      ID: 01301817
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 20:30
Dang...I forgot I already had Alex Gordon to fill my 3b spot.

Anyone looking to acquire either M. Cabrera or Alex Gordon, send me an email!
67Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 20:52
Gordon is 1B/3B Barilko... so you may be ok there. At least its not a major problem anyway since we also have the IF position too.
68 art's in the hall
      ID: 481391119
      Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 21:47
I am interested in moving up. send me an email.
69Pancho Villa
      ID: 47161721
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 00:50
Sorry about my delay. Now that we're rolling, Ill have my que management properly set.
70Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 09:33
I'm also thinking, with this que system - no reason we can't pull it down from 6 hours to 4 hours for the entire draft. Nobody has any excuse for not having a few guys qued up and some designated pickers.

Its not like before where you had to write out some names and hope to email them to the right people.
71Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 09:35
I meant to say - with this que system AND automatic email notifications when you are on the clock....
72barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 09:45
Very true. Lets hope this thing catches on fire today! I am away all day tomorrow coaching basketball, but will definitely be lining up the queue...
73Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 10:36
I'm up and gearing to go, so whenever I am on the clock I will make my back to back picks right away :)
74barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 10:55
I sent Rob an email to let him know he was on the clock
75Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 11:18
Guys, I'm headed to work until about 11pm. I'm not going to have access to Kafenatid although I will have access to RotoGuru.

There's enough in the Q to make a second round pick. I'll add PV to my pickers for this one.(Wiggs. barilko) Go ahead and make the 2nd rounder. If it comes comes back again maybe I can work it out on here or just wait until 11. I'll check in here this afternoon. Thanks
76Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 11:27
I'm a newbie here and don't wish to intrude myself too much, but I will say I'm strongly against going to 4 hours now.

It's February 19th!

Mind you, I can handle a 4-hr deadline. I already have 11 people in my queue for 2nd round pick (although I haven't made it available).

Toral
77barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 11:28
I agree Toral, a 4 hour clock isn't necessary. I just agreed with GO's point that we should all be checking in a little more regularily now that we are getting email notifications.

Jackhammers, when you are up, you can always just post your pick here and I can add it to Kafenatid.
78Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 11:38
Yeah, but on average this draft takes almost a month I believe with 27 rounds (and the season starts early on March 25th) + Barilko is going away in mid March. Based on getting everything set up and rolling we thought we'd have a few round head start by now. But it took an eternity to get everyone signed up (people still aren't in Yahoo) and this first round is taking forever for whatever reason.

Kafenatid should really speed things up once we get going and help us catch up, where people leave ques and we blow through 5-6 picks in mere minutes will help that. From right now til Opening Day - at a round per day is cutting it close. Forget that you want it done a week before to leave time to enter rosters, make adjustments etc.

I certainly expect things to get clicking shortly once everyone has their ranks and ques ready to roll. Hopefully that happens.
79barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 11:49
Once everyone makes their first round selection, we put the clock on and everyone should be aware that we are up and running.

Still no word from RobJ at all...
80 Pancho Villa
      ID: 47161721
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 12:02
Shouldn't I have gotten an e-mail with the pertinent info inviting me to the league?
81Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 12:12
I'm a newbie here and don't wish to intrude myself too much, but I will say I'm strongly against going to 4 hours now.

It's February 19th!

Mind you, I can handle a 4-hr deadline. I already have 11 people in my queue for 2nd round pick (although I haven't made it available).

Toral
82Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 12:28
Looks like we are a go... Slizz is up for his back to back and picking shortly per our discussion.
83Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 12:55
1st "reach" per say of the draft in BJ Upton @ 2B/OF.

Hopefully he can continue his 5-tool skillset:

OB% (400+), 30/100/100/30+ projected over 160 games.

I was hoping for the Rollins/Upton combo to anchor my infield :) Rats!
84Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 13:04
Its never a reach if you know that guy you really wanted wasn't going to make it back to your next pick. I'm sure some here were hoping to scoop him up with their mid 2nd round picks.

And then conversely you got Prince - who is a 1st round talent - a bit later than I expected. So it all balances out.
85Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 13:28
Upton no reach at all while eligible at 2B. By rotoworld draft kit, leaving pitchers out of discussion, Upton and Fielder were next 2 pix.

You want to see reaches...watch me.

Toral
86Rob J
      ID: 491471515
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 13:36
I was hoping Prince would make it back, but I obviously wanted J-Roll a little more. Everyone's going to get 2 great picks at least, its the middle to later rounds that really decide this thing.
87JackHammers@work
      ID: 441143514
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 13:40
anybody mind posting the last few picks? last one I saw was Holliday. Thanks
88Rob J
      ID: 491471515
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 13:41
1.01 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY restok79 wiggs
1.02 Albert Pujols 1B STL ChicagoTRS
1.03 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET barilko6
1.04 Jose Reyes SS NYM wiggs restok79
1.05 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA Toral
1.06 Ryan Howard 1B PHI wolfer
1.07 Chase Utley 2B PHI ARTOFMONK
1.08 David Wright 3B NYM airallnite
1.09 Carl Crawford OF TAM JackHammer
1.10 Matt Holliday OF COL Pancho Villa
1.11 Johan Santana SP MIN eserel
1.12 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI johnsrw14
1.13 B.J. Upton 2B TAM slizz
2.01 Prince Fielder 1B MIL slizz
2.02 Jake Peavy SP SDG johnsrw14
89barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:01
Re:80

Post 11 Chicago asked for current email addresses, because he lost them.

Post 26 gives us the Yahoo Signup Info:

71653
rotoguru
90Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:30
RE Pick 2.04 - Pancho Villa & Ryan Braun - correct me if I am wrong, but wasnt he a keeper as designated by the other thread?

Adam Miller
Alex Gordon
Billy Butler
Brad Hawpe
Cameron Maybin
Clay Buchholz
Clayton Kershaw
Curtis Granderson
Daisuke Matsuzaka
Francisco Liriano
Greg Maddux
Hunter Pence
Jay Bruce
John Danks
Jose Tabata
Justin Upton
Ken Griffey Jr
Matt Garza
Nick Markakis
Rafael Soriono
Russell Martin
Ryan Braun
Shane Victorino
Troy Tulowitzki
Yovani Gallardo

Not that I'm complaining b/c I have 2 elite players so far, but Braun would've been my 2nd pick instead of Prince.

I crossed everyone from the above list off my draft board. If that is the case, does Pancho have to re-pick?
91barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:32
Correct...I will stop the draft
92 barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:36
Pancho, email me your new selection.

And a reminder for all managers to CTRL-F our draft thread before picking
93barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:41
I've emailed Pancho about a repick, and will keep the draft stopped until I hear back from him.

I have Jackhammers pick ready to go as well, and because it had been picked and deleted, it won't be in his queue.

Barilko I changed my password so that I can enter Jackhammers queued player and avoid further confusion!
94Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:43
And I just want to point out that, as a new team, I got no keepers, and therefore are, by my standards, entitled to whine and blame my poor performance on this for the rest of my time in the league.

I guess I should also ask -- what are the rules for drafting potential keepers this year? In which rounds? Ummm...prime numbers greater than 5?

Toral
95JackHammers@work
      ID: 441143514
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:43
sounds like its almost back to me. Would you guys mind posting some more picks? (including mine if its been made yet.

I was glad not to have to consider Braun in the first or second round. I'll be interested to see where he goes in some other drafts. Although he has first round numbers and is ranked there by some sources, I'm always afraid of the sophomore slump factor, at least for early rounds
96barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:46
Toral, anyone drafted in Round 14 or later, you can keep one.

That is in addition to our farmers.
97barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:48
Hammers...

The only player to add to the list in Post 88 is David Ortiz.

Braun had also been selected, as well as the guy in your queue, but we had to delete both those picks as Braun was a keeper. We are waiting to hear back from Pancho now.

98Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:52
Tx, barilko6. Hope you had a great "Family Day".
99barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:57
haha...I did. Are you Canadian as well?

In addition to the 14th Round Keeper: As Chicago TRS points out, that player MUST be on a roster for the entire season, and never be on waivers.

You may trade for someone off another manager's roster, but as stated, that player has to be on an active roster for the entire year.
101Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 15:02
Yeah. What he said! :)
Damn Canadians!!!
102Pancho Villa
      ID: 47161721
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 15:11
OK, e-mail sent.
103barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 15:16
ALright...we are back up and running.

The last two picks:

Pancho: Brandon Phillips
Jackhammers: Grady Sizemore
104wazaaap_guy
      ID: 25832712
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 15:27
Will pick shortly.
105 art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 16:21
will pick shortly, unless anyone wants to move up?
106barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 16:43
If anyone is wondering why the clock is paused, I can't delete a draft pause while it is in effect. I have been keeping an eye on the time, everyone is still on a 6 hour clock now, and I can get the actual clock moving at 11:00 pm tonight. (Understanding that the clock is paused overnight, from 11:00 pm EST to 8:00 AM EST.
107Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 16:46
Fully queued up.

That is, I have made my queue available, and made the player picking after me (Great One) a DP so he cannot be delayed; whenever he is ready to pick, he can make my prior pick first and then pick himself.

Toral
108JackHammers@work
      ID: 441143514
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 17:14
if it should get back to me before 11, i can make a pick from here if you guys will keep posting the picks. I don't want to use my Q for round 3. I should have access to kafenatid at work starting tomorrow
109barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 17:24
1.01 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY restok79 wiggs
1.02 Albert Pujols 1B STL ChicagoTRS
1.03 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET barilko6
1.04 Jose Reyes SS NYM wiggs restok79
1.05 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA Toral
1.06 Ryan Howard 1B PHI wolfer
1.07 Chase Utley 2B PHI ARTOFMONK
1.08 David Wright 3B NYM airallnite
1.09 Carl Crawford OF TAM JackHammer
1.10 Matt Holliday OF COL Pancho Villa
1.11 Johan Santana SP MIN eserel
1.12 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI johnsrw14
1.13 B.J. Upton 2B TAM slizz
2.01 Prince Fielder 1B MIL slizz
2.02 Jake Peavy SP SDG johnsrw14
2.03 David Ortiz 1B BOS eserel
2.04 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN Pancho Villa
2.05 Grady Sizemore OF CLE JackHammer
2.06 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC airallnite
2.07 Lance Berkman 1B HOU ARTOFMONK
2.08 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA wolfer
2.09 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL Toral
110barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 19:18
I've sent an email to Wiggs to let him know his clock is ticking away!
111Slizz
      ID: 171101318
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 19:31
C'mon Wiggs!
112Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 20:22
Its likely Wiggs didn't realize he had this pick so soon since it was one acquired via trade.
113barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 20:42
Even with the trade being considered, its still only a 3 pick differnce. Unfortunately, with the way the timing works, Wiggs has until 8:01 AM tomorrow before he officially times out.

Queues are a great idea!!! You never know when you are going to get called away from the computer, power failure, etc, etc.
114wiggs
      ID: 51013815
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 00:22
i have been having some serious issues with my house. My pipes froze 2 weeks ago and we have had alot of water in my basement. My wife and I have been living with my parents. I left a queue, but it emptied out. I really thought/hoped Texieria would make it back to me.
115barilko6
      ID: 101401920
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 07:49
GO...the clock is messed up from yesterday's pause still.

It will say that ChicagoTRS times out around 9:30 this morning. He doesn't actually time out until around 1:00 pm.

Since you are picking after him, can you keep an eye on this and not skip his pick if he doesn't make it on before 9:30? Once you have picked, all of our clock issues are history.

I left a 27 player queue to keep us going as I will be away all day.

116Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 08:55
I shall not pick yet.
117ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 10:09
Left a one player queue for my next pick...
118ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 10:19
Question? How did wolfer retain Maddux?

I should have noticed this earlier...but maybe we can still fix it.

I retained Maddux last year...he was not drafted thus not available to be retained.
119Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 10:39
Thats a good question, Barilko gone all day however. Thankfully its something that can be corrected.

If someone really wants to pick Maddux at some point today (I know, VERY unlikely for another 10 rounds) than just post that you intend to take him since he is likely available - and we will pause the draft until Barilko can confirm it.
120wolfer
      ID: 24148211
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 11:46
It's called a brain fart. I was deciding either between Davis, Lowry, or Glavine and somehow ended up with Maddux. Is it to late to re-declare?
121ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 11:48
redeclare away...
122wolfer
      ID: 24148211
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 11:52
Glavine it is then.
123Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 12:34
Alright I'm no furthur along than I was yesterday.
The problem is that I have no idea what my kafenatid password is. I'm still logged in at home from previous drafts, but i can't log in at work without the password. I sent for it yesterday but my email has only been working sporadically the last few months. A grey box tells me the server has terminated my connection, sometimes I get lucky and it comes up. not lately. If anybody can help....
Some of you know KKB. maybe there's another way? I know its old fashioned but I do have a phone.

Otherwise I'll just set another long Q and hope for the best
124art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 13:18
is anyone interested in my pick? I am looking to move down right now. I don't think the last player I had targeted will be around for me.
125Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 13:58
If you can't get in to kafenatid - just post a pick here and we will pick it for you. Barilko can pick for anyone and he sent me his log-in as well.

I assume he'll be around this evening (I won't be from 4:30 onward though as I am going to a benefit dinner).
126 Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 14:00
And I would move up if you are interested.
127Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 15:11
For Jackhammers:

2.06 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC airallnite
2.07 Lance Berkman 1B HOU ARTOFMONK
2.08 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA wolfer
2.09 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL Toral
2.10 Carlos Beltran OF NYM wiggs restok79
2.11 Carlos Lee OF HOU barilko6
2.12 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA ChicagoTRS
2.13 Derrek Lee 1B CHC restok79 wiggs
3.01 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC wiggs
3.02 Adam Dunn OF CIN ChicagoTRS
3.03 Brandon Webb SP ARI barilko6
3.04 Erik Bedard SP BAL restok79
3.05 Bobby Abreu OF NYY Toral
3.06 C.C. Sabathia SP CLE wolfer
3.07 Josh Beckett SP BOS ARTOFMONK
3.08 Travis Hafner 1B CLE airallnite
128Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 15:16
Maddux is now available, Glavine unavailable
Updated Undraftable List
Adam Miller
Alex Gordon
Billy Butler
Brad Hawpe
Cameron Maybin
Clay Buchholz
Clayton Kershaw
Curtis Granderson
Daisuke Matsuzaka
Francisco Liriano
Hunter Pence
Jay Bruce
John Danks
Jose Tabata
Justin Upton
Ken Griffey Jr
Matt Garza
Nick Markakis
Rafael Soriono
Russell Martin
Ryan Braun
Shane Victorino
Troy Tulowitzki
Yovani Gallardo
Tom Glavine
129JackHammers@work
      ID: 441143514
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 15:47
you can go ahead and pick from my Q if it hasnt been done already
130barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:05
I am back in the office.

A couple things:

Maddux as a keeper. That wasn't my call, as I didn't post the keepers, otherwise I would probably have noticed. (That is totally passing the blame on my part!) Its good that it was caught early!!! (Great work!)

Wiggs, check to make sure you know how to leave a queue. I watched Kafenatid all day yesterday, and it showed your name with the red outline of the negative sign. According to Fred, that meant no queue was left for people to pick from. Maybe you forgot to activate it then.

Guys, if you leave a queue, you must also activate your queue, otherwise nobody will be able to access it.

Other than that, looks like things are moving along, and I look forward to my next pick!!!
131Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:12
I think thats what Wiggs was saying up in #114... he left a que but it got emptied out.
132barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:19
And what I am saying, is according to Fred at Kafenatid, no queue was left. That means Wiggs must have forgotten to activate the queue.
133wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:29
i just looked, it is showing it as available, but empty.
134barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:33
For some reason I can't see the queue symbols now, but I am just going by what was there yesterday.

Its no worry, I just wanted to make sure everyone realized how to work the queues.
135barilko6
      ID: 101401920
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 21:38
Dang...where is S z???
136barilko6
      ID: 101401920
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 21:45
I sent sZ an email letting him know he has already timed out once and working on pick 2.

137Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 22:05
Why isn't Kafenatid timing out? It's almost been 7 hours.
138barilko6
      ID: 101401920
      Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 22:39
it did time out, but now we are on the way back and sZ is back on the clock
139s R
      ID: 2673163
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 03:06
sorry for the delay...
140art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 10:37
I think Figgins might have been a steal and I am happy getting Morneau. I think the draft will get very interesting after the top 50 players values start being all over the board. Let the fun begin because I don't have clue how will be around for my next pick.
141wazaaap_guy
      ID: 25832712
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 10:39
I also thought Morneau went a little late... I was considering him with my 3.08 pick but ultimately settled on Hafner.
142Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 10:42
I'm still in disbelief I convinced myself to pick Bedard over CC and Josh.
I had the other guys in other leagues... so I kind of talked myself into rolling the dice and mixing it up.
143barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 10:46
I think ManRam going that late in an OBP league was also a steal. I was hoping he would drop 5 picks further.
144wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 10:49
barilko,
ManRam wasnt getting past me. I had him number 1 on my list. Almost took him with me last pick.
145art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:00
granderson is my keeper.
146Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:01
Granderson is on the unavailable list.
147 barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:04
Draft has been stopped. Wolfer, you picked someone's keeper. Please email me a repick selection.

Toral and Wiggs, I have your picks and I will not let Wolfer pick either of those as a penalty for not checking CTRL-F in this thread.

REMEMBER Before picking, check this thread with a CTRL-F to make sure your selection is not a keeper
148barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:06
I have emailed Wolfer for a repick as well.
149Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:13
Don't soley rely on the Ctrl+F either, just in case a player's name is spelled different. Or you spell it wrong when you search for it.

If I did a search and spelled it "Grandersen" - nothing is coming up.
150barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:15
I think Bedard could have a monster year in Seattle if he stays healthy. Switching parks, switching divisions, switching offenses/defenses, all are upgrades for the Big Canadian!
151barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:33
Draft is back on! Chicago is back on the clock!
152ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:34
give me a few minutes...
153Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:34
He's Canadian?! ah forget it then... Bedard is on the trading block :)
154barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:40
Man...I am very tempted to waaay overpay now...
155Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:49
I also thought Morneau went a little late

I had Morneau qued up and ready to go. Then I looked at Pena's OBP from last year, a full 70 points higher. That means a lot since we changed from BA to OBP.
156wazaaap_guy
      ID: 520591413
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 11:58
I didn't know that Pena's OBP was so much better. I forgot about the switch when I made my second round pick of Soriano... not worth thinking over now whether I would have gotten someone else or not.
157ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 12:12
We are making good progress now...kafenatid is a nice interface...
158JackHammers@work
      ID: 441143514
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 12:29
Finally got everything working here! I'll make my own pick today guys, Thanks for the help the last couple days
159art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 14:02
wow, draft started to move, will make my pick shortly. unless someone wants to move up
160wazaaap_guy
      ID: 25832712
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 15:07
Sorry for the delay, got out of class and was taking the bus home. Went with Scott Kazmir.
161Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 15:14
Hey Jack...here is the list of players selected since you last picked:

4.06 Manny Ramirez OF BOS airallnite
4.07 Justin Morneau 1B MIN ARTOFMONK
4.08 Adrian Beltre 3B SEA wolfer
4.09 Chipper Jones 3B ATL Toral
4.10 John Lackey SP LAA wiggs restok79
4.11 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS barilko6
4.12 Rickie Weeks 2B MIL ChicagoTRS
4.13 Corey Hart OF MIL restok79 wiggs
5.01 Justin Verlander SP DET wiggs
5.02 Chris Young SP SDG ChicagoTRS
5.03 Aaron Harang SP CIN barilko6
5.04 Francisco Rodriguez RP LAA restok79
5.05 John Smoltz SP ATL Toral
5.06 Roy Oswalt SP HOU wolfer
5.07 Eric Byrnes OF ARI ARTOFMONK
5.08 Scott Kazmir SP TAM airallnite
162JackHammers@work
      ID: 441143514
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 16:21
Thanks, I'll be picking in a couple minutes
163Rob J
      ID: 18143917
      Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 17:11
Pancho: I would be willing to trade up for your pick!
164art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 01:08
anyone wanting to move up?
165 Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 08:07
Minor glitch here. I changed my Kafenatid e-mail. Apparently that renders my account inactive until KKB reactivates it. I assume that means my queue can't be seen. If that's the case, please e-mail me when I get up, I have the sound notification on, and I'll give my pick here.

Toral
166barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 09:09
I am around Toral, so I can send you an email.

Make me a designated picker, then I will get an email as to when you are up.
167Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 09:14
Make me a designated picker, then I will get an email as to when you are up.

My Kafenatid account has been deactivated. I can't make anyone a DP, see my own queue, or anything else. That's the problem.
168barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 09:16
ok, then email me who you want to take when you are up, as Commish I can enter a pick for anyone.

I will let you know when you are on the clock!
169Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 09:17
Damn it. I can still see the draft through Draft Peek. That's the first time this draft that the top 2 pix off my queue have been taken right before me and probably not the last.

I pick Huston Street, RP, Oak
170barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 09:20
Done
171barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 09:21
The Closer Run has started!!!
172Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 09:22
If someone's got Fred's e-mail I'll contact him and ask him to reactivate me as soon as possible. I have a queue long enough to get me to the next round and don't remember who's on it.
173barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 09:47
Fred's email is: admin@kafenatid.net

He is always really quick to reply.
174Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 10:25
OK I'm back on Kafenatid qnd my queue is available.
175barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 10:27
Just snagged Robinson Cano. Kicked myself for not taking him last round, then Slizz and I were talking last night and he correctly guessed who I was targeting for this round. He is an elite second base option in a late round.
176wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 10:28
cano would have been my pick this round as well. I am mad I didnt take him with GOs pick instead of tejada, but I thought he would slide 2 more picks.
177barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 10:45
I actually had you pegged as taking Cano with your first pick for some reason. Yours was the only selection that I was really worried about. I don't know why..haha
178barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 10:57
Dang...TRS messed up a beautiful John McDonald-to-Aaron Hill-Like turn on the end by stealing away Jenks. Valverde was my consolation prize.
179wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 11:00
Dam, I had Cano and Kinsler locked into this pick and i lost them both. SOB
180wolfer
      ID: 24148211
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 11:06
Isn't Soriano on the protected list?
181barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 11:07
Yep. Good catch, I deleted him. Toral, post a new player to pick here, your queue is empty.
182Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 11:10
Sorry about that, chief.

Francisco Cordero, RP, Cin
183barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 11:11
Thanks Toral. We are back on track.
184art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 13:04
sorry, just getting pack to the computer. I will need a little bit to catch up and make my pick, or I will listen to all offers to speed things up, since I have no idea who to pick at this time.
185Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 13:06
I know we aren't supposed to mention undrafted players... but Roger Clemens would be a great pick here :)
186wazaaap_guy
      ID: 25832712
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 13:07
id be interested in trading up.
187 art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 13:11
wg,
send me an offer with the calulator.
188art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 13:48
trade with wg
I give up 7.07, 8.07, 13.07 and 23.07....

ang wg gives
up 7.08, 8.06, 15.08, 17.08
189Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 14:07
Did he not send you a calculator too like you requested?
If WG had included TI-83 Graphing Calculator along with David Wright for A-Rod, I'd consider it.
190wazaaap_guy
      ID: 25832712
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 14:08
I confirm the trade.
191barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 14:21
Ok...trade is entered, WG, you are on the clock!
192barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 14:23
re: 189


Is that calculator compatible with both imperial and metric measurements? Then I might be interested.
193Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 15:02
Of course not. Its the American Way. like Blue Hen's rankings... this way is right, everyone else is wrong!
195Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 15:38
8.01 - Evan Longoria, 3B/UT, TB - Farmer Hitter
196Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 15:39
Slizz is taking Longoria at 8.01 as his farmer. Looks like he was in Kafenatid afterall.

I will go ahead and put it in the draft thread for recordkeeping since we can't designate it on Kafenatid.
197barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 16:57
I am out for pretty much the rest of the night. Should be able to check in late, late tonight.

I have a queue set up that will last my next two picks
198ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 18:33
I am out until late night...left a queue...hopefully enough for my next two...
199wazaaap_guy
      ID: 25832712
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 19:57
STOP THE DRAFT

Russell Martin was not available to be drafted.
200wolfer
      ID: 14982815
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 22:19
Sure, the second time I make a pick w/o double checking and look what happens...

Please change to
Kenji Johjima, C Sea
201barilko6
      ID: 171472221
      Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 22:49
Picks all fixed up.
202 Pancho Villa
      ID: 47161721
      Sat, Feb 23, 2008, 10:22
I need the info to enter my team into the Yahoo league - league name and password.
203barilko6
      ID: 8118237
      Sat, Feb 23, 2008, 17:16
Yahoo Sign-Up info

71653
rotoguru
204Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 19:57
Looks like Slizz emailed me picks while I was out. He can't get to computer and his que was emptied.

Barilko - can you enter these? I will try and fine your login if I don't hear from you soon.

for Slizz
9.13 Brad Penny, SP, LAD
10.01 Todd Jones, CP, DET
205barilko6
      ID: 8118237
      Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 20:04
I got them...will enter now
206ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 21:14
I am looking to move up...
207ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 10:46
Trade confirm

Art 10.7 & 18.7
for
ChicagoTRS 10.12 & 17.2
208Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 10:47
Thanks GO!

Sorry about that guys, I will be out of pocket on my blackberry next weekend as well, hopefully my queue doesnt run out before I pick again (really wanted ben sheets!).
209Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 14:38
8 picks in 40 minutes. Nice work on this side of the draft folks.

Remember... "que's are your friend" and make sure you leave a couple designated pickers to push those picks through if you aren't around.

TRS - is Fukodome a Farmer for you? do you have a Farmer spot open anyway? I was curious who else had him on the radar as a potential Hitter Farmer and now wished they took him earlier.
210ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 15:39
Never thought of the farmer option with Fukodome...unfortunately my hitter farmer is filled...at least it blocks everyone else...
211ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 16:48
I may drop my other farmer and retain Fuko in that spot...
212barilko6
      ID: 48152259
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 17:09
Would that be allowed?

Two points:

1. You have already declared your farmer keeper, and nobody has been allowed to draft that player for the 11 rounds the draft has been going on.

2. You drafted Fukodome as a regular player, and then thought about farmering him only after someone made a comment.

Just my thoughts.
213Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 17:50
Good Points Barilko. However, to TRS's credit, he did say the following:

Hitter Farmer: Jose Tabata (not 100% sure if I will retain or not)

Eventually, TRS did make it official that Tabata is his farmer hitter before the draft started.

While I do agree with both of your points, I don't think that this guy would've been drafted within the 1st 11 rounds therefore I do not think its that big of a deal to make a special exception.

I would defer to the league to see if they agree (7 votes, not counting TRS). Just my two cents...

214barilko6
      ID: 48152259
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 18:05
Agreed Slizz...Tabata isn't all that attractive now,

But, lets say that someone else wants to drop his farmer and the draft is currently in the 19th round, and that player is very attractive come round 19. That would mean that whoever is on the clock gets lucky and would be able to pick him up.


215ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 18:29
There is a precedent...last year we had a manager draft multiple hitter farmers...and we ruled he had to declare which farmer he was keeping after the draft and had to drop the other or trade the player during the draft.

I would think I keep both and have to drop one after the draft and I do not gain another pick towards the end of the draft. Or I would be ok with dropping Tabata now.

Agreed it is kind of a gray area/not covered in the rules. It should probably be clearly defined.
216Slizz
      ID: 171101318
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 18:58
NOTE: I'm just throwing ideas out here...

What we COULD do is similar to the NFL Supplemental draft...have a silent auction where each person submits a bid on a already retained farmer and if he chooses to drop that player in exchange for another player, he will give up that pick in next year's draft.

EX: Before the draft we all declare our farmer keepers. After declaring the farmer keepers, we will have a silent auction on already declared farmers. We would elect someone to maintain a chart tracking all bids (EX: Slizz bids on Tabata for his 2009 20th round pick, GO bids on Tabata for his 2009 20th round pick, Barilko bids on Tabata for his 2009 19th round pick). In the event something like TRS picks fukodome and declares him as a farmer keeper and wants to drop Tabata, a silent auction would already be in place. If Barilko has not designated a farmer keeper yet, he would than own the rights (similar to a option contract) to obtain Tabata for the 19th pick in the 2009 draft as his farmer keeper (for one year only) while only giving up his last pick in the current draft.

Your thoughts?
217Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 19:08
anybody else having trouble getting into kafenatid? I can't. Where are we?
218GolfFreak
      Leader
      ID: 01730209
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 19:09
Cant get in either. ;(


219ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 19:52
seems like kafenatid is down...

jackhammers you were up in the draft...

Lets keep picking here and we can update the site when it comes up.

last few rounds:
113 jackhammers 9.9 Rich Harden
114 Pancho Villa 9.10 Manny Corpas
115 sR 9.11 Ben Sheets
116 robJ 9.12 Carlos Marmol
117 slizz 9.13 Brad Penny
118 slizz 10.1 Todd Jones
119 robJ 10.2 James Loney
120 sR 10.3 Jason Isringhausen
121 Pancho Villa 10.4 Joba Chamberlain
122 jackhammers 10.5 Dustin Pedroia
123 wazaaap_guy 10.6 Chad Cordero
124 chicagotrs 10.7 Orlando Cabrera
125 wolfer 10.8 J.J. Hardy
126 toral 10.9 Kelly Johnson
127 wiggs 10.10 Andruw Jones
128 barilko6 10.11 J.D. Drew
129 art for the hall 10.12 Edwin Encarnacion
130 great one 10.13 Brett Myers
131 wiggs 11.1 Jered Weaver
132 chicagotrs 11.2 Kosuke Fukudome
133 barilko6 11.3 Jim Thome
134 great one 11.4 Pedro Martinez
135 toral 11.5 Jorge Posada
136 wolfer 11.6 Placido Polanco
137 art for the hall 11.7 Carlos Delgado
138 wazaaap_guy 11.8 Joakim Soria
220ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 19:52
139 jackhammers 11.9
140 Pancho Villa 11.10
141 sR 11.11
142 robJ 11.12
143 slizz 11.13
144 slizz 12.1
145 robJ 12.2
146 sR 12.3
147 Pancho Villa 12.4
148 jackhammers 12.5
149 wazaaap_guy 12.6
150 art for the hall 12.7
151 wolfer 12.8
152 toral 12.9
153 wiggs 12.10
221ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 19:57
I will have to think about the farmer rule...because I definitely think there should be an option to drop a farmer. I see it in cases like this where there may be one or two farmers everyone is interested in but they do not want to really drop their existing farmer unless they get one of the prime available farmers. There should be an option to drop.

Maybe allow drops during the draft and then the dropped farmer becomes available in a certain round...and a random point in the round. Like 20th round...pick number random.
222Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 20:01
ok. gimme a minute
223Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 20:11
11.9 John Maine SP Mets

not even sure if he's been taken. Guess I'll find out quickly
224ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 20:16
Maine is good...

11.10 Pancho Villa on the clock...
225Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 20:28
were back up, I just entered Maine
226barilko6
      ID: 8118237
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 20:35
re: 215

It is a gray area. But then why even declare whether you are keeping a farmer if you can just drop them anyways? If that was the case, I could have just said that I was keeping Scott Elbert and then dropped him at a later date.

To me the essence of the farmer is to take a chance on a single young prospect. One prospect, not stockpile a bunch of prospect-eligible guys and then pick and choose at a later date which one you are going to declare.

I guess that is my interpretation of the rules, but would be open to putting it up for a vote.

As for last year's precedent, I was on the record as saying I didn't care for that circumstance either.
227Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 20:44
Yeah, I would have absolutely taken Longoria or Fukodome earlier if I knew I could let my farmer go depending on where they fell. So certainly can't have that option this season.
228ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 21:02
Sounds good...we will table it until next year...
229Rob J
      ID: 121412516
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 21:03
I will make my pick shortly.
230Slizz
      ID: 171101318
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 21:27
A bit of a reach on Price...but I'd rather lockup my farmers now than later.

If, somehow Price does not get called up this season...would I still get him for 2 seasons beyond that since he did not get any major league experience?
231ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 21:31
You get your farmer for the year he is called up and the following year...you can retain forever as long as he is in the minors.
232barilko6
      ID: 8118237
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 23:07
Also...just a reminder for our new managers, Round 14 marks the first round for our late round keeper exception.

You may keep any one player drafted in Round 14 or later, so long as they remain on your or another manager's roster for the entire season. (So no player that was on the waiver wire at any point during the season qualifies.) You may trade 14+ round players from team to team and still have that player qualify.

You can only keep that player for the following season.

So Slizz, being at the bottom of the draft order, you get to draft the first eligible late round keeper!
233ChicagoTRS
      ID: 30471016
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 09:41
I hope as we get later in the draft people will start queueing a little more...the pace has been too slow the last couple days.
234Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 09:58
Other than Toral, I don't think I have made a pick for anyone else.
In other leagues everyone has a few different people as a designated picker and then you can blow through 4-5 picks at a time.
235wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 10:01
Barilko has made a few of my picks. I have left a queue everytime I have been away for any period of time.

GO I think this is our last round of swapping picks.
236barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 10:04
Yeah, I have made picks for a bunch of guys. Toral, Jackhammers, Wiggs, and others. This draft has being going pretty well in my opinion!
237wazaaap_guy
      ID: 25832712
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 10:06
I haven't set up DP's or left a queue ever because I am nearly always at a computer or an hour or so away from getting to one.
238ChicagoTRS
      ID: 30471016
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 14:04
Nice turn around on the top of the draft...that is nice...10 picks in about an hour...
239Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 14:43
Thats what I'm talking about! whohoo...
240barilko6
      ID: 491137128
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 14:45
I take all the credit. By taking crappy guys like BJ Ryan and Adam LaRoche, that allows you all to think less and just take the top guys off your queues.
241wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 15:18
Ryan was in my queue as well :)
242ChicagoTRS
      ID: 30471016
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 15:27
was top in mine too.. :-p
243Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 16:34
Yea Ryan was picked at the right time...he wasnt making it back into the 14th round.
244ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 19:51
jackhammers try to utilize the queue if possible...you sat on the clock for ~10 hours today...
245Rob J
      ID: 121412516
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 23:05
I will pick in a bit, I kind of have a tough decision.
246Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 00:55
yea tough day, sorry guys. I picked in a hurry too, and I hate both picks. I'll fill the Q up and leave it on
247ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 12:11
what happened? barilko6 was on the clock and I think a pick disappeared...and it went back to restok...

you need to put that pick back...
248barilko6
      ID: 531282618
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 12:12
Can't...GO picked a keeper, I emailed him and deleted the pick. (Clay Buccholz)
250ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 12:13
ok...cool
251Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 12:18
re-picking...
252Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 12:24
took another damn Canadian in Votto. :)
253Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 12:26
Ya know, I was looking to put Derrek Lee on the trading block.
I guess I may as well target Morneau at this point. And Steve Nash. And Celine Dion. And those guys in "Strange Brew"!
254Rob J
      ID: 121412516
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 14:07
I'm fairly interested in a trade up, let me know *you would get to move up in a couple of rounds*

15.11, 16.3, 18.3

for

15.12, 16.2, 18.2
255barilko6
      ID: 171112714
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 15:12
Don't forget Tom Glavine, he is an honorary Canadian because he was drafted by the NHL.
256Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 16:31
for Slizz
George Sherrill, RP, BAL
Lastings Milledge, OF, WAS
257Rob J
      ID: 121412516
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 16:39
I'm confused, should I place my picks here because slizz's picks they haven't been entered in kafenatid yet.
258barilko6
      ID: 561222714
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 16:40
I will enter Slizz's picks...give me a sec
259wiggs
      ID: 51013815
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 19:02
GO Gomez is no longer a met, he was traded for some santana bum
260Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 21:09
I'm aware. Pretty sure he wouldn't have had much value this year as a Met anyway.

But you'll need to explain that to Kafenatid.
262Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 10:10
I want as my farmer Matt Laporta, OF, Mil. He doesn't seem to be taken.
263Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 10:13
barilko suggested that I use Abercrombie as a placeholder, so that's what I've done.

Reggie is a placeholder for Matt Laporta, OF, Mil
264barilko6
      ID: 561222714
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 10:35
Looks good Toral. If anyone for some really odd reason should want to pick Reggie Abercrombie, just send me an email and I will recommend a good beginner's league for you.

265Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 10:37
I can only hope Toral selects Robert Fitch with his next pick to team with Abercrombie.
266Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 10:38
I'll be picking in about 30 or 40 minutes
267Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 10:41
Anyone looking for a top 1B...
Derrek Lee is officially on the trading block.
Main interests are a top starting pitcher, SB's and a low-level closer mixed in there somewhere.
268 barilko6
      ID: 561222714
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 11:17
I actually would love to pick up a SP, some of you have some extras, so send me your thoughts!

269art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:57
I am looking to move up.
270art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 15:17
sorry for the hold up I didn't things would move so quickly. Give me a minute or two?
271Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 17:15
I'm out for a while. you guys can make my pick right away when it comes up. Im next
272PV in Park City
      ID: 441552916
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 19:40
I'm with relatives 50 miles away in Park City.(The skiing is GREAT!!) Left a que for first pick only. If it somehow gets back to me for the 20th round, I'll be home around 10PM MST to pick.
273barilko6
      ID: 8118237
      Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 08:36
PV...sorry, I made your secound pick without reading this here. Did you want to change it?
274Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 09:51
b6 - nope, Greene is OK. I was worried about getting two pitchers in the 19th and 20th rounds.
275ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 10:55
Slow weekend...we should be able to complete by the end of this week.

This is a great time to put a player or two in queue.

I am working on remaining picks...what round everyone stops picking.
276Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 11:16
I'd think it should go quicker now that people are looking for best available. I hope so anyway. I know I have like 30 names que'd up and the bulk of my work is done. Now its just choose from the list when my pick is up.
277barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 11:18
Yeah...we had a big run Friday night when I got home and I think I entered 8 queued up picks in a row.

That was pretty sweet.
278ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 11:28
Last 3 rounds:
Round 26:
326 slizz 26.1
327 Pancho Villa 26.2
328 wazaaap_guy 26.3
329 wolfer 26.4
330 toral 26.5
331 great one 26.6
332 barilko6 26.7
333 wiggs 26.8

Round 27:
334 wiggs 27.1
335 toral 27.2
336 Pancho Villa 27.3
337 robJ 27.4
338 slizz 27.5

Round 28:
339 slizz 28.1
340 toral 28.2
279barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 11:30
What I will do for the missed picks is just enter the keeper that needs to be inserted into that manager's slot.
280ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 09:22
23.13...Garza was a keeper...
281ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 16:32
woohoo...done with my draft...just about 2 weeks to complete the draft is probably our best ever...great job everyone.

Not very happy with a few of my picks...specifically Pujols and Weeks...I did not want Pujols but chickened out...I should have just picked Holliday or HRamirez...and I should have picked a pitcher in Weeks spot.

two thumbs up for the kafenatid software...the queueing is very nice.
282ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 17:03
Some kind of pick the funny name conspiracy going on?

25.5 Asdrubal Cabrera
25.6 Alejandro De Aza
25.7 Alfredo Amezaga
25.8 Jair Jurrjens
283barilko6
      ID: 561222714
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 17:09
Yeah the Kafenatid really helps things run pretty smooth with the queues.

Guys, just a reminder that starting next round, not everyone has a pick:


Round 26:
326 slizz 26.1
327 Pancho Villa 26.2
328 wazaaap_guy 26.3
329 wolfer 26.4
330 toral 26.5
331 great one 26.6
332 barilko6 26.7
333 wiggs 26.8

Round 27:
334 wiggs 27.1
335 toral 27.2
336 Pancho Villa 27.3
337 robJ 27.4
338 slizz 27.5

Round 28:
339 slizz 28.1
340 toral 28.2

I will enter your keepers as we get to where you were supposed to pick.

If you just want to post your pick here, I can also enter that for you too. (Example: If I am not around to enter someone's keeper, and you are on the clock, just post here and I will enter both picks)
284barilko6
      ID: 561222714
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 17:40
If you are picking from someone's queue for them, make sure they actually have a pick that round as well, by looking at the chart above.

Finished Drafting:

RobJ
sR (Eserel)
Jackhammer
ArtofMonk
ChicagoTRS
285Great One
      ID: 19057139
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 17:42
How about - when you are done picking, please empty your que and/or clear off designated pickers.
286art's in the hall
      ID: 9017313
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 19:49
or do you want to me to put people in my que that no one will pick.
287Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 20:30
I'm sure some of our more astute managers noticed my picks #23 & 24.

PEDRO FELIz
PEDRO FELIciano

Really, nobody noticed?
288barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 21:10
Jackhammer was not supposed to pick this round, so I deleted the player he chose and entered his keeper.

I have also changed our clock to a 4 hour clock as per our league rules. (I was supposed to have done that in Round 20)
289Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 09:57
My 27.2: Anthony Reyes, SP, StL
290wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 09:59
My draft is over except my keeper. I have entered him in my queue.
291Great One
      ID: 27154129
      Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 10:29
PV - those were excellent choices.

I once took Luis Gonzalez and Luis Gonzalez back to back. For fun.
292Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 10:44
I'm done. My keeper is in que for round #28.
293ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 17:11
Missing Pancho Villa from the Yahoo league...

please sign up so I can enter your draft results...
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294Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 17:16
I've been in for a couple weeks.
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295ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 17:23
PV...sorry about that...someone else then has not signed up...let me see if I can figure out who...

ok...so it must be Rob J who has not signed up...emailed him...
296barilko6
      ID: 232541116
      Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 11:18
Hey TRS...

Looks like you've got all the players entered in Yahoo, are you going to start up the league soon so we can make the necessary roster changes before the season starts?
297ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Fri, Mar 14, 2008, 02:29
March 17th I will start the season.

I will also post all of the farmers that are in the DB and managers will have until April 1st to claim them.

I posted a message on the league message forum.
298ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Mar 17, 2008, 11:47
Season started...

Any further communication should take place on the league page...
299wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Mar 20, 2008, 12:31
I am struggling with the farmer rules.

What is the deal?

I drafted Colby Rasmus- I need to bring him to my roster now, he cant just retain farmer eligibility for this season?
300Great One
      ID: 1122611
      Thu, Mar 20, 2008, 15:33
If he's never been in the majors, you don't need to put him on your roster. Once he gets called up, you gotta add him within 5 days.
301wiggs
      ID: 4711572420
      Sat, Mar 22, 2008, 17:34
but then can I keep him next season as well as a prospect?
302wiggs
      ID: 4711572420
      Sat, Mar 22, 2008, 17:36
Ok, What I am seeing is Rasmus has no major league experience, and he has been assigned to triple a to start the season. Why does it say on the yahoo board I need to pick him up?
303Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Sun, Mar 23, 2008, 13:27
The way I understand it, you can leave him as a prospect and not call him up (until he finally gets called up by St.Louis).

Perhaps TRS is under the impression that Rasmus was going to be on the Opening Day roster as rumored (til the other day when they sent him down.
Longoria would be the same for Slizz.. neither has played an MLB game yet.
304ChicagoTRS
      ID: 344311322
      Sun, Mar 23, 2008, 14:28
See post #3:

5) When a player is added to the Yahoo! DB once someone posts a public message that the player has been added you have 5 days to either claim or lose your rights to that farmer.

I understand it is sort of arbitrary about how Yahoo adds players to their DB but the reason the rule was written this way is so we do not have the situation where managers are picking up others farmers as free agents. Generally Yahoo only adds minor leaguers who are very close to the majors. The benches in this league are very deep and one of the purposes of this is so you can find a spot for minor league players.

I am going to add some language to the rules for next year giving teams until Apr 1st (or maybe 5th?) to make initial claims...just to give time for people to sort out their teams.
305Great One
      ID: 1122611
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 09:49
Thats why I was confused I guess, cause I thought we went the "0 games played" rule to avoid having to track when Yahoo arbitrarily adds players (which they seem to do on a whim sometimes) and to make it a more concrete thing. You see your guy's name in a boxscore - you go and pick him up. Otherwise you'd need to search for your player every 5 days to make sure Yahoo didn't decide to add him and I don't think anyone wants to do that.

For example, Longoria was available last year and there was no way he was being called up. But perhaps someone in more of a dynasty format league wanted to add him so they probably put in a player request and Yahoo added. And my farmer pitcher is set to be the #3 in the Reds rotation by Opening Day - and yet he's NOT in the Yahoo database.

I do agree we have plenty of room on our benches for these guys, so that ain't a problem, but I think its difficult to count on people to repeatedly search to see if their guys was arbitrarily added by Yahoo.
306ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 09:58
That is why we have the rule:

5) When a player is added to the Yahoo! DB once someone posts a public message that the player has been added you have 5 days to either claim or lose your rights to that farmer.

So you do not really need to search for a player...heck you can know he is in the DB and you do not need to claim until someone posts a message stating the player is there.
307Great One
      ID: 1122611
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 11:53
Thats reasonable... we can all kind of keep an eye out for each others guys.

It would be nice if Yahoo would add on a consistent basis each week... i.e. every Sunday they posted "status changes" as they call them on the site. Or emailed a list of them all to the commish or something.
308barilko6
      ID: 180102816
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 09:59
Question on prospects. At what point do we decide that a manager has given up rights to his prospect by not picking him up?

And,

How do we decide the exact time that another manager can claim those guys, assuming that one of them could be very desirable.

Guys not claimed:

Jackhammers: Justin Upton, John Danks
309ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 10:36
I will post something in the league forum...
310barilko6
      ID: 833356
      Sat, Apr 05, 2008, 08:34
dang...I kept both Marcum and Owings on the bench last night thinking they didn't have good matchups. Ouch
311 Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Mon, Apr 07, 2008, 13:12
Damn, I know the feeling bro...I can never get the UTIL / IF spot right on my squad.

I put in Jacobs over drew, drew hits 2 HR's and steals a base. I put drew in for jacobs, Jacobs hits a walk off and puts up a decent fantasy statline.

Same with Lastings Milledge (his only production on my bench)/Jason Bay/Rick Ankiel (2 HR, 4 RBI/Runs)/Frank Thomas (Grand Slam)...which brings me to my next point:

I am looking to move either Jason Bay or Rick Ankiel for a comparable power hitting 1st baseman/infielder (I.E. Adrian Gonzalez). Bay is a guy who should give you .375 OB% 25 HR and 10-15 SB. Ankiel looks like hes primed for a 30+ HR year plus he bats in front of Pujols in a hitters park!

Get back to me with any offers / indications of interest...
312 Chuck
      ID: 152261223
      Fri, Sep 26, 2008, 03:54
Hey guys... just throwing my hat back in the ring that if a spot opens up in the league this offseason, I'd love to get back in. Drop me a line if something opens. Thanks!
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