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Subject: RIBC AA Eastern League preseason/draft discussion
Posted by: mjd
- Leader [501381415] Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 00:19
We'll use this thread going forward with preseason/draft siscussion.
If you've been following the RIBC in this thread then you know that they're voting on a possible rule change. Rather than vote on this ourselves, I'm leaning towards following any changes that they may make, if any.
So unless anyone has any objections. I'd like to proceed with choosing our draft positions this week.
I already have one set of random numbers. I need one more set, 1-16, posted here. |
1 | dpr
ID: 1733917 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 00:30
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15 1 4 16 8 10 11 7 9 3 2 12 5 13 6 14
is that wat u wanted?
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2 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 01:38
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I alphabetized the RotoGuru handles and applied the first set of numbers, 4, 10, 5, 9, 3, 2, 13, 16, 6, 14, 12, 15, 8, 1, 11, 7 sent by loki, then I applied the second set sent by dpr. Here's the results:
1. Matt G 2. youngroman 3. dpr 4. loki 5. MBT 6. Tequila 7. Tree 8. Goldcoach 9. Jackhammers 10. Rev 11. ywk 12. sR 13. Species 14. mjd 15. wiggs 16. DB
Matt G picks first
Please fill in the spot that you want to draft in:
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.
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3 | Matt G
ID: 5414315 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 06:58
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I'll take the first pick.
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4 | youngroman
ID: 2934823 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 10:08
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1. Matt G 2. 3. 4. youngroman 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.
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5 | dpr
ID: 1733917 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 12:25
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1. Matt G 2. 3. 4. youngroman 5. 6. 7. 8. 9.dpr 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.
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6 | loki
ID: 54039810 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 13:48
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1. Matt G 2. loki 3. 4. youngroman 5. 6. 7. 8. 9.dpr 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.
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7 | MBT
ID: 120411420 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 17:35
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1. Matt G 2. loki 3. MBT 4. youngroman 5. 6. 7. 8. 9.dpr 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.
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8 | Tequila
ID: 47111456 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 05:12
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1. Matt G 2. loki 3. MBT 4. youngroman 5. Tequila 6. 7. 8. 9.dpr 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.
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9 | Tre
ID: 21126195 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 06:30
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1. Matt G 2. loki 3. MBT 4. youngroman 5. Tequila 6. Tree 7. 8. 9.dpr 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.
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10 | Goldcoach
ID: 893426 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 07:51
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I'll go 7th.
1. Matt G 2. loki 3. MBT 4. youngroman 5. Tequila 6. Tree 7. Goldcoach 8. 9.dpr 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.
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11 | Jack Hammers Donor
ID: 236482918 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 07:59
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8th
1. Matt G 2. loki 3. MBT 4. youngroman 5. Tequila 6. Tree 7. Goldcoach 8. Jack Hammers 9. dpr 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.
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12 | revvingparson
ID: 59132143 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 08:19
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1. Matt G 2. loki 3. MBT 4. youngroman 5. Tequila 6. Tree 7. Goldcoach 8. Jack Hammers 9. dpr 10.Rev 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.
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13 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 14:59
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Nice flurry of activity this morning.
ywk is up. He has a 12 hour time difference. He's probably sleeping now. I sent him an email reminder and I expect him to pick once he gets up.
This is his first time in a slow draft, but he is a very experienced fantasy baseball player. I've exchanged multiple emails with him, discussing the nuances of drafting this way and the feasibility of him participating in this league. I explained the Kafenatid queue system to him and that entire drafts been done before using the queue system. I explained how it will take due diligence on his part to set a 2 round (32 player) queue on a daily basis until we finish. I also explained that for the most part, this was an experienced group and that timing out would not go over well at all.
He understands everything to this point and seems very conscious of what it will take on his end to make this work. I'm very confident that with his previous experience and current motivation, that this will work out fine.
One of the reasons I'm moving things along (other than to keep the league engaged) is to open Kafenatid once we set the draft order, so that ywk and others can (re)familiarize themselves with Kafenatid and the great queue system.
Once we set the draft order, I'll open Kafenatid to untimed picks. I won't begin the clock until March 1st or so.
The other reason to get an early start is that I've gotten emails from several managers who have real life conflicts with one weekend in particular in the midst of the draft. A solid start will allow us to extended/suspended the clock on that or all weekends, as necessary. I usually like to run an extended clock on weekends, just to keep things from coming to a grinding halt, but we'll address that issue later.
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14 | ywk
ID: 4811132 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 20:10
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1. Matt G 2. loki 3. MBT 4. youngroman 5. Tequila 6. Tree 7. Goldcoach 8. Jack Hammers 9. dpr 10.Rev 11.ywk 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.
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15 | s R
ID: 54048267 Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 00:45
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1. Matt G 2. loki 3. MBT 4. youngroman 5. Tequila 6. Tree 7. Goldcoach 8. Jack Hammers 9. dpr 10.Rev 11.ywk 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.s R
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16 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 13:14
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1. Matt G 2. loki 3. MBT 4. youngroman 5. Tequila 6. Tree 7. Goldcoach 8. Jack Hammers 9. dpr 10.Rev 11.ywk 12.Species 13. 14. 15. 16.s R
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17 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 14:20
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1. Matt G 2. loki 3. MBT 4. youngroman 5. Tequila 6. Tree 7. Goldcoach 8. Jack Hammers 9. dpr 10.Rev 11.ywk 12.Species 13.mjd 14. 15. 16.s R
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18 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 15:26
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1. Matt G 2. loki 3. MBT 4. youngroman 5. Tequila 6. Tree 7. Goldcoach 8. Jack Hammers 9. dpr 10.Rev 11.ywk 12.Species 13.mjd 14. DB 15.Wiggs 16.s R
I took 15 leaving DB with 14 and we are done with this portion of the draft :)
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19 | Matt G
ID: 4115787 Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 15:42
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I'll be picking in just a moment.
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20 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:17
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Kafenatid is now open. Towards the bottom of our main draft page and just across from "League Settings" is "On the Clock Help". I encourage you all to read this. It's very self explanatory. Any further questions, please email me or post them on this discussion thread.
The draft shall remain untimed until Monday, March 3rd or so.
Don't forget to name a couple DPs (designated pickers). As commish, I'm default DP for everyone, but if you want me as your DP please designate me as one so I'll get an email notice when you are up.
All draft discussion and instructions for your DPs should be placed in this thread.
DPs-Please check this thread for instructions before making a pick for someone.
As always, in all RotoGuru leagues, please refrain from mentioning any undrafted player by name.
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21 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:27
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TIME OUT PLEASE!!
Matt G. has made his pick putting me "On the Clock" per an e-mail from Kafenatid. I do not want to hold anything up, but I am not ready to start drafting. How many of us are? I had thought that the draft would begin in the beginning of March, but I could start earlier; however this week would be difficult for me. Could we discuss and possibly vote on this?
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22 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:34
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At this point, the draft is untimed and all picks are discretionary.
If you are not ready, don't make a pick. No problem.
I just thought I'd open Kafenatid so managers could (re)acquaint themselves with it and maybe knock out a round or 2 in the process before we start the clock.
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23 | Matt G
ID: 4115787 Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 16:36
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clock is ticking loki, make your friggen pick!!!
;-)
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24 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 09:14
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Done.
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25 | Matt G
ID: 4115787 Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 09:34
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I was kidding, I was just anxious to make my pick....
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26 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 22:00
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Okay, I threw a curve ball in the first round. WTF it's just a game ;-)
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28 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 22:32
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I set my queue for the 1st round at the 10th pick.
Braun was on it. Albert was not. I expected him to fall out of the top 5, but not in my wildest dream to me, at lucky 13.
A chance I'm willing to take at this spot
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29 | DB
ID: 291462213 Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 22:39
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Wow, I thought I was going to get Pujols! I guess I will have to settle for Howard!
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30 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 22:42
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Believe me, you came thisclose.
My other choice was (undrafted)
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31 | DB
ID: 291462213 Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 22:43
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Was it a Firstbaseman?
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32 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 22:48
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I'll tell you when he's picked.
Maybe I'll get lucky again in 6 picks.
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33 | DB
ID: 291462213 Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 22:53
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The guy I was tageting for my 1st pick is still there too, so I have my finger crossed.
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34 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 22, 2008, 23:00
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I don't like picking this late in a draft, but it is interesting to see what scraps fall to those of us at the bottom of the draft.
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35 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sat, Feb 23, 2008, 00:07
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wiggs got the guy I planned to pick in round 1.
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36 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Sat, Feb 23, 2008, 02:24
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I might want to trade down a few spots in round 2. Anyone in picks 5 through 8-ish in round 2 who could be interested in swapping 2nd and 3rd round picks, let me know.
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37 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Sat, Feb 23, 2008, 12:33
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I'm going to leave this offer out a few hours. I am looking to trade down in round 2. My round 2 and 3 for yours.
Any takers?
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39 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 16:08
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Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN Stat Categories: R, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP
Decent progress with no clock on a weekend.
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40 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 17:35
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Some really interesting picks out there (including my own - a reach I know, but wtf). Good job everybody.
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41 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 17:44
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I just made a pick for MBT out of his queue. I took the first player available with no other instructions out there.
mjd can set his own rules, but I used these in the PCL last year, and they are good common sense:
========================================= Designated Picker Protocol:
I think it would be helpful to consider these commandments before making any picks:
1 - Check your email for any specific instructions from that team - i.e. their queue could have been for "Round X only" and we'll need to give them time to readjust their queue.
2 - Check the board for posts about their queue, or other instructions relevant to that team's wishes
3 - Absent that, it is then the responsibility of the particular owner to have an updated queue ready and also to manage your DP's. If you do not designate that a queue is for a particular round only and someone picks from an available queue, it's on you.
==========================================
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42 | dpr
ID: 1733917 Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 17:48
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one question about queues. If you don't have detailed instructions you would just want to leave one player available right? Leaving more is for when you are giving the other manager some discretion right?
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43 | MBT
ID: 0138616 Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 18:38
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Species, thanks for making the pick for me, but a word of warning for DPs. If someone leaves a Q please give them enough time to make the pick themselves. The top player in my Q was taken during the 4 picks at the top of the round so I would have changed my Q based on that information. It's my own fault for leaving my Q on Active, but I had made my other pick 2 hours earlier so I was checking the draft progress. Live and learn.
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45 | MBT
ID: 0138616 Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 19:06
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dpr, discretion? Yes, you do give them that power, but given very specific instructions that shouldn't be an issue. Typically we'll just take the first player on the list. The other issue is that you might give the other coach an idea about a player he had forgotten about. As a rule of thumb I try to keep only one player available in my Q.
EDIT: One player visible in my Q, not available.
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46 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 20:10
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41-Those are great rules as far as DP protocols go. Nothing worse than meaning to help someone out as their DP and the pick gets screwed up due to a miscommunication.
43-When the clock is running and I'm someone's DP, I tend to give them a little time to make the pick themselves unless I definitely know they are not around. Maybe 30 minutes to an hour. Depends on the situation.
With no clock, managers can make their pick at their leisure. At this point, I won't make a pick as a DP unless I'm specifically asked to.
I also use the queue system as a player watch list for myself, so I'm very careful about keeping it turned off unless I'm not going to be available.
Nice to be in a AA league with a few other experienced managers. Makes my job easy.
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47 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 22:28
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MBT - sincerely sorry if I stepped in too quick. If you didn't want him, I don't see why the Commish couldn't reverse the pick since YR hasn't picked. And since he's European, I doubt he's picking tonight as he's probably sound asleep.
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48 | youngroman
ID: 3751268 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 03:01
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I could have picked yesterday before I went to sleep, but I am not yet ready for my 3rd pick. there are too many options out there and I need to dig a bit deeper. I am now heading to work, should make my pick at around 2pm ET. plenty of time to reverse MBT's pick.
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49 | MBT
ID: 0138616 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 08:53
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No need to change the pick, it's not that big of a deal and it was my own fault for not turning off my Q. Brian Roberts is just fine, gives me another speed guy ;) Just wanted to give the other DPs a head's up before someone did get upset.
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50 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 12:37
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Cool YR. Don't blame you, and we've made good progress.
That being said, everybody else had better be ready to make their pick -- no excuses of not having enough time! ;-) I've got to start the closer run soon.
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51 | MBT
ID: 121472515 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 16:51
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Just an FYI for the league, I'm going out of town Wednesday and won't have internet access for about a week. I do have someone who is going to manage my draft so not to worry. However, he's only going to be monitoring the Kafenatid website, not the Guru site. If we ever start a draft thread please post my picks and I'll get to the rationale portion after I return.
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53 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 17:16
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As AA, I believe we're not required to do rationales.
I was planning to do a draft recap. I'm jotting down a few notes of my thought process during the draft to help me make my picks. I'll incorporate them into the recap.
Last year I found it helpful to write the rationale before making my pick.
I actually talked myself out of a few picks. Just not enough to advance to the RIBC or stay in AAA p)
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55 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 18:24
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The RIBC voted down any rule changes this year
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56 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 20:06
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Is kafenatid.net down or is it me?
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57 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 20:10
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It's been down for an hour.
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58 | ywk
ID: 4811132 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 20:24
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the site backs to normal right now.
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59 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 21:34
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Wow I almost had an orgasm thinking Pronk was going to make it to me.......but I am nearly as happy that Manny did. Go Manny! Contract year baby!
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60 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 12:03
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Damn....wanted Hamels. Oh well.
Let's see who slips in Round 5.
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61 | DB
ID: 401291112 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 13:19
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Species, I too was looking for Hamels so he would have been gone one way or another!
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62 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 16:58
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh.....and the first closer comes off the board on the WRONG side of my pick. Open the floodgatessssssss
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64 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 17:33
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Dude, don't mention the undrafted.
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65 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 18:43
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Here's an update on our progress so far per OTC:
Picks Made 57
Time Per Pick 2:34
Picks Left 343
Projected Finish 04/03/08 02:36:42 pm
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66 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 18:55
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That includes the first 2 days when managers were still preping and only a few picks were made, so we've actually pick up the pace since then.
I think it's a compliment to all the managers in the league that we're doing so well without a clock.
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67 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 18:59
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With Tree up, I was looking at his existing picks to try to figure who he would take. I say we give him 16 in the steals category with the existing 3 players he has! Holy frijoles!
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68 | DB
ID: 371162611 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 19:00
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Crikey - I was hoping that some how Rios would make it back my way, I was shocked to see him when I picked Atkins and was hoping he would be there in round 5.
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69 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 19:11
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DB - Rios was on my very short list in Round 4. That's nice value where he was taken.
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70 | Tree
ID: 171592617 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 19:13
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i'm willing to make trades...
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71 | Matt G
ID: 5414315 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 20:44
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species, my apologies...
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72 | Goldcoach
ID: 439131016 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 21:22
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I was surprised to see rios there too. Tough choice between him and JJ
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73 | Goldcoach
ID: 893426 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 10:56
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Look what revingparson started....
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74 | revvingparson Sustainer
ID: 059856912 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 11:18
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...better to start, than be on the wrong end of the draft when it does start (which generally happens to me)...
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75 | DB
ID: 401291112 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 11:27
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I have a quick question regarding Free Agents. Once the draft is over, how do we go about picking up Free Agents? Is it 1st come 1st serve like with regular public yahoo leagues, or is there a different method?
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76 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 12:13
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DB - once the draft is entered, every undrafted player goes on waivers for 48 hours (I believe). After that, everyone is a free agent and standard Yahoo rules apply.
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77 | Tree
ID: 3533298 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 12:37
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if didn't start with Rev, it was certainly going to start with me. I had a closer pegged for this round.
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78 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 12:42
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That's correct, Species.
That's why I'm hoping to finish by March 22 or so. That way we can run wavers for 48 hour and still have a day or so for FA pick ups before any games begin.
Not critical, but that's the plan.
Once we get through 5 rounds, I'll start moving players into the Yahoo league.
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79 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 12:57
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A March 22nd finish is GREAT! That's the day I leave for Spring Training baby! Woo hoo this will be off the hook.
I can't believe we haven't made the turn in this round yet. Booooooooo! loki, that god of mischief, is at it again.
It looks like youngroman was either 1 - not scared of; or 2 - unaware of Kazmir coming out of his 1st spring start with a discomfort in his elbow. Yikes!
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80 | youngroman
ID: 3751268 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 13:36
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I was not scared of Kazmir's discomfort. I like his potential even if he misses 1 or 2 starts early on. I see him performing similiar to Hamels and he was gone early this round. only the next few weeks will tell me if that was the right decision.
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81 | Matt G
ID: 4115787 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 13:45
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ESPN says Kazmir will only miss 2 weeks, thats not bad at all...
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82 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 13:51
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I love Kazmir, and own him in the 20-team G20 league. I hope he's healthy and this minor thing is nothing. If he can just get his walk rate down (like he had in 2006), he is an ace.
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83 | Goldcoach
ID: 893426 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 14:56
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Kazmir was in my sights next time too. I think YR made a good pick.
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84 | Goldcoach
ID: 893426 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 15:17
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Loki (post21) said this would be a tough week for him. We already have a great jump for an untimed draft. The only other RIBC league to start is AAA PCL and they're still in round two.
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85 | DB
ID: 401291112 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 15:17
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I was hoping he would slip to me in the 5th - I had him qued up and ready after Rios was picked. Now I have to figure out who to take!
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86 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 17:26
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Goldcoach #84 - oh I heckle loki in every draft we've been in. Just standard operating procedure!
We have a great head start and are making adequate progress....but you get excited too so you want things to move. No complaints.
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87 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 18:47
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Re: #84-No real problems from this point on. However, this is my busy season at work which might contribute to delays, especially during the daytime.
Re: #86-All in good humor.
Why did Carlos Pena slip to me at 5.02; what am I missing?
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88 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 18:51
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Why did Carlos Pena slip to me at 5.02; what am I missing?
Because I got greedy looking at ADP's and thought he might fall. I was all set to take him at 4.05 but thought taking some solid #'s at SS was more important. Oops.
That being said, while he's always seemingly had the skillset to do something sort-of approaching what he did in 2007, the fact remains that he's been a disappointment up until that point and his season came not just from "out of left field", but of of Mars if you ask me.
Nice pick.
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89 | Matt G
ID: 4115787 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 09:02
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I almost picked Carlos with 5.01, but his numbers in the past just didn't show that last year was what to be expected, especially at his age.
Instead, I believe Adrian, who was expected to put up these numbers has a better chance too. Plus I always end up picking 1B way too late and platooning two guys who I shouldn't ever start...
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90 | Goldcoach
ID: 893426 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 09:05
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Always gotta at least one Geezer, if healthy Sheffield is a good pick this late. (I hope.)
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91 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 11:30
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I'm stepping out for an hour or so. I have instructions from ywk for his next pick. I'll make it when I return.
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92 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:00
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I am locked and loaded as well once Rev picks and mjd picks for ywk.
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93 | dpr
ID: 1733917 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:06
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I'm expecting Chris Young to be a 9-category player for me
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94 | revvingparson Sustainer
ID: 059856912 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:14
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I have picked
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95 | DB
ID: 401291112 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:40
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I too am locked and loaded, provided my queue doesn't get blown up in the next 4 picks!
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96 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:46
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Nice pick rev!
Once the Commish returns hopefully we can make it all the way through the turn.
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97 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:54
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I might regret that....but Larry's huge OPS was just too juicy to ignore. Give me 450 AB's please, Larry!
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98 | DB
ID: 401291112 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:54
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Boom - both players I had set were just picked/
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99 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:55
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same here bra. I just reloaded, lets see what happens now.
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100 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:02
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Hopefully s R is in the house and we can make a fast turn.
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101 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:02
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I had 2 players scooped.
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102 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:11
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Yeah, but methinks everyone wanted Pence and Hart, and not Chipper - lol
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103 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:12
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I wanted hart and chipper
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104 | DB
ID: 401291112 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:16
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I wanted Chipper! But settled for Kinsler
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105 | Goldcoach
ID: 893426 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:24
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I wanted A-ROD and Hansley & Santana & well you know... Wiggs is up, he has a queue but since we're not on clock I'll give him lots of time.
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106 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:25
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i already picked.
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107 | Goldcoach
ID: 893426 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:26
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Looks like he didn't need any time. Let's make the turn!
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108 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:27
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If it is on me and I have a queue feel free to use it.
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109 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:40
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s R has made his picks at odd hours - is he European? We could conceivably be in for a wait.
I have queued up my Round 6 pick. mjd - after you make your pick, if I have someone in my queue, please fire at will.
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110 | Goldcoach
ID: 893426 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 14:04
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#108 OKAY! I DID.
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111 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 14:16
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Woo hooo.....good job s R in keeping the momentum. AND.....excellent pick of Swisher who, especially in an OBP league, is going to be sweet. He'll smack 35 bombs easy in that bandbox.
mjd - I am queued up so pull the trigger....I'm heading off to a meeting.
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112 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 14:33
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Yes! I will get one of the 2 SP's I really wanted (and considered at 5.12) in this round. I really felt they were a cut above the rest and rolled the dice that those around the turn wouldn't go with starters.
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113 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 14:37
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Gimme a sec. My queue keeps getting picked clean.
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114 | Tree
ID: 3533298 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 15:26
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This draft has been kind of bizarre to me, and is screwing up my strategy. :o)
I had Swisher going in the next two rounds, but not this early. GREAt pick...
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115 | revvingparson Sustainer
ID: 059856912 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 17:18
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Give a moment to get caught up and see where things are then I'll pick.
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116 | revvingparson Sustainer
ID: 059856912 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 17:38
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Finally decided this game was played with IFs as well. Should be interesting how moving out of RFK will help Z's offensive numbers.
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117 | dpr
ID: 1733917 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 17:56
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well you took the guy I was targeting. Good pick
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118 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 20:43
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Little better pace today. More along the lines of what we need to do.
Today we dropped our average time per pick to 2 hours 11 minutes
Our projected finish time is 3/28
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119 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 20:56
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we just need to use the queue more. We ran 12 picks in about an hour
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120 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 21:21
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Yes, i lieu of turning the clock on I'd like managers to act like it is on and set a queue if you're going to be away for a period of time.
I can see that most of the league is at least stashing players in their queues.
And perhaps we can communicate a little better and let the league know what's happening. Like we would do if the clock was on.
I think it would be pretty awesome to complete this draft without a clock. It would probably set a RotoGuru Invitational League record. At least for AA.
That said, we still have a way to go. We're still 10 picks away from the quarter pole.
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121 | Tree
ID: 401242820 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 21:26
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just got in - i'll be picking within 30....
regarding the clock - what is the plan for the weekend?
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122 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 21:43
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For now the plan is no clock, but please read post 120
I expect things to slow down a little on the week end, but during the week we need 25-30 picks per day. Half that per day on the week ends.
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123 | Tree
ID: 401242820 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 21:55
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good lord, i am really struggling with this pick. lol
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124 | Tree
ID: 401242820 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 23:43
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mjd - any way to see the average time per person?
regarding queues - i think in a league this size, leaving a queue is VERY difficult. i mean, i can go as many as 20 picks between two of my picks - and it's even more for some people - and things can change dramatically in that amount of picks.
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125 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 23:58
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IMO he doesn't mean a queue 20 picks long -- but if you are sitting at your computer but getting ready to leave, and you see you are 4 picks away from your next pick, it's reasonable to set up a queue for that one round while you will be afk. To me there is little excuse for multiple 3+ hour delays in the span of 3 or 4 picks.
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126 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 01:13
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Exactly
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128 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 01:32
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124-Not shown in Kafenatid. I'm not looking to point any fingers.
Overall, we're doing a great job. Everyone of these drafts has an ebb and flow. Just aiming for less ebb and more flow.
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129 | Matt G
ID: 461502018 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 07:04
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Guys I just got the alert I'm up, unfortunately I'm running out the door to work, will pick in 1 hour.
thanks!
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130 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:00
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Lets cover some ground. I see that Tequila, goldcoach, ywk, and Species all have queues set.
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131 | Jack Hammers Donor
ID: 236482918 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:16
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I'll be around for a couple of picks today also, or Q's whatever
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132 | Matt G
ID: 4115787 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:19
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I'm here until 5 or a little after EST, then I'm out of town till sunday. I'll have my laptop and sheets with me, so I can pick but i'll be checking only periodically instead of obsessively...
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133 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:22
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Thanks for that info, Matt.
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134 | Goldcoach
ID: 893426 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 13:01
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Wiggs you're up, are you there?
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135 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 13:24
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I just don't want to pick too quickly for these guys on or near the ends. Plus we emptied Species queue. That's going to happen when we make a bunch of picks and that's OK. If we do outrun someone's queue, we'll just have to wait a bit.
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136 | Species
ID: 541122913 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 14:12
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Back from a meeting.....will pick within 20 mins.
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137 | Species
ID: 541122913 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 14:38
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I know queues start diverging pretty wildly at this point as people look to solidify their positions, but I'm not sure if it looks bad on ME or on everyone else that my queue in round 6 (when I took Smoltz) had: 1 - Smoltz; 2 - Zambrano; 3 - Street. I can't believe Zambrano made it almost all the way back. Great pick ywk.
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138 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 14:40
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zambrano was number 1 in my queue for round 7 as well
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139 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 14:59
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I almost took Smoltz the pick before you took him.
I've had Z and Street in previous years and I planned to stay away this year. After last year Street is banned from my team. Z not so much.
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140 | dpr
ID: 1733917 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 15:22
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Im going out in about ten minutes for a couple hours. If rev does pick quickly ill put up a queue and ive set several of you who are around to be designated pickers. If somehow things really get moving use the queue only for round 8 as after the first few names it is more a watch list.
thx
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141 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 16:17
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Perfect day.....with that nice run we had earlier, we dropped our per pick time to just under 1 hour 50.
Most importantly our projected finish time is 3/22, which is my goal.
WELL DONE!!!
And we'll still make a few more picks today, I'm sure.
Now if we can turn one round each day this week end.....
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142 | Matt G
ID: 4115787 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 17:11
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aHHHHHH I wanted Liriano, I was hoping he'd make it back, damnit!
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143 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 18:25
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Hold off on Tequila's pick. His 7th round pick (by queue) was the same position as the player who is queued up now.
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144 | youngroman
ID: 3751268 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 20:28
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made my queue available. use it only for round 8. I'll do pick #9 when I wake up
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145 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 20:28
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Queue left for my next 2 picks.
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146 | DB
ID: 31482810 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 07:42
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Have we stopped the draft for the weekend?
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147 | Goldcoach
ID: 439131016 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 09:14
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I'll be gone to about 3:30 pm EST. I've left a short queue. If they all get picked before I return its YOUR fault if the draft gets held up.
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148 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 10:35
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No DB, were making picks
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149 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 11:04
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We probably won't have huge a run like yesterday and I don't expect to. My expectation is one round. 16 picks and we're over halfway there. I also expect them to come in intermittently throughout the day.
So check when you can and maybe leave a queue if it gets to within 5 picks from you or so.
We're still in great shape and we know that we can stomp on the gas if we need to during the week.
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150 | DB
ID: 31482810 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 11:19
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I will have no internet access beginning at 6 PM EST tonight until tommorrow afternoon. I will leave a small queue if it doesn't make it to me by the time I leave.
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151 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 12:18
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Looks like Goldcoach has at least one player in his queue, but he didn't make it "available".
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152 | Goldcoach
ID: 439131016 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 14:16
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Sorry, I forgot to make it available.
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153 | Goldcoach
ID: 439131016 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 14:41
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Nocke pick JH he could be a real steal this late. Especially with the potent offense he has behind him.
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154 | Goldcoach
ID: 439131016 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 14:42
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For Nocke read "nice"
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155 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 14:44
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I'm stepping out for a few hours.
Should be back by 7ish.
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156 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 16:14
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Queue left for 10.15, only.
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157 | Species
ID: 444482616 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 17:21
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mjd and ywk are designated pickers for 9.12 only please.
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158 | Jack Hammers Donor
ID: 236482918 Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 00:05
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Re: 152 I don't think I've ever had Pedro, It was my big chance. What the heck, maybe he's got something left
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159 | revvingparson
ID: 291402817 Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 07:03
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I will be out from roughly 8:30-3:00 today, I have set a queue that should keep things going.
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160 | Goldcoach
ID: 439131016 Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 09:09
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Left a three player queue. I turned it on too!
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161 | Species
ID: 444482616 Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 12:26
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Well that turn sucked. I went one way in round 9 because I suspected those around the turn would need a certain position.....not one of them went, and I let Thome go :(
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162 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 12:34
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Thome's been flapping in the breeze for a while now. I'm not real crazy about picking a guy who can only play utility, but it's had to ignore his power numbers, especially this late.
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163 | DB
ID: 24229117 Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 12:38
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mjd - I was torn between Thome and Damon, for some reason I think the White Sox Offense will be much better this year, then when Votto went 2 picks early I figured Bruce would be long gone before the draft came back to me so I decided to take him over Damon.
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164 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 13:09
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Note: I changed ywk's pick in round 10. I initially thought his first choice was picked. Upon further review, it was not, so I corrected the pick.
Sorry for any confusion it may have caused, if anyone even noticed.
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165 | Tequila
ID: 47111456 Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 14:44
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i disabled the queue, i'm picking in 10-15 minutes
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167 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 15:58
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Queue left for 11.02.
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168 | youngroman
ID: 3751268 Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 19:40
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queue left for round 12 only. if it gets back to me I'll do my 13th pick when I wake up (around 2am ET)
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169 | DB
ID: 4324311 Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 19:51
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mjd- Are we still on track to finish 3/22? I am going to be out of town for a week starting that evening with very sporatic internet access.
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170 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 20:03
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We are kicking butt and will easily finish by then at this pace. We will hit the half way point tomorrow.
Tequila and mybadteam also have queues ready.
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171 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 22:38
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We need to let youngroman make his pick per 168.
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172 | Species
ID: 444482616 Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 22:38
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Please note youngroman's instructions in post 168. He has a queue but he wishes to make his round 13 pick at 2am ET.
Glad I checked myself! lol
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173 | Tree
ID: 37232319 Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 23:31
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i'm going to leave a one person queue. i'm heading to bed, and if that person gets picked, then i'm not sure what direction i want to go in, and will pick in the morning if i'm up...
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174 | Tequila
ID: 47111456 Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 04:45
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i'm going to pick in 30-45 min, i'm doing a little research now...
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175 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 11:34
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Nice pick of Ryan. He was in my queue but had to pull the trigger elsewhere. Could be a great steal.
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176 | DB
ID: 4324311 Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 11:52
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I have a quick queue question - I see wiggs player in his queue - I am suppose to draft the player for him?
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177 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 12:18
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175-I hope so.
176-The standing rule is: Check here and your email for instructions. If none, fire at will. However, wiggs is usually around most of the time, so I usually give him some time to make his pick. If he doesn't pick in 20 or 30 minutes, he's probably not available.
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178 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 12:24
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Species-I was just getting ready pick Willy T for ywk. Nice scoop.
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179 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 12:27
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I'm heading out into the quagmire for a bit. Should be back by 2.
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180 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 12:52
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Re: 178 - Glad to hear he was on someone's radar. I hate category-killing speed guys but I think I have built up enough OBP and SLG to absorb it....and I could use his runs scored.
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181 | Goldcoach
ID: 439131016 Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 18:56
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I'll be out till around 9:00. Left a queue.
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182 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 20:57
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Queue left for 16.15 and 17.02.
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183 | JackHammers@work
ID: 44122616 Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 21:56
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Guys i'm just going to pick when I get home, bout another hour. Sorry just cant get away at the moment
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184 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 19:52
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Goldcoach-Thanks for picking Alou; I had him on my queue!!
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185 | Goldcoach
ID: 439131016 Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 20:08
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You're welcome loki! If I had everyone I'd put on my queue I'd have a great team.
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186 | Tree
ID: 4827520 Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 21:11
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pretty good timing on Alou, since he's going to probably miss 6 weeks.
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187 | MBT
ID: 2123268 Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 09:37
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Alright, I'm back from vacation. Not too sure how I feel about the team my friend picked, but can't complain too much. Now I've got to try to make for some of the weaker areas.
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188 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 12:13
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Nice flier by wiggs on Schmidt. I blew that and didn't even have him on my injury sleepers to watch list.
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189 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 12:27
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mjd = JERK in round 18! ;-)
At least it made my choice between the two easier.
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190 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 12:39
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Revenge for the Giambi pick last round.
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191 | MBT
ID: 2123268 Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 14:44
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Tree, nice pick up with Buck. I was surprised he was still available. If he gets regular playing time he should put up some nice numbers for a 18th rounder.
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192 | Tequila
ID: 47111456 Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 15:52
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I'm picking in 10 minutes.
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193 | MBT
ID: 2123268 Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 16:55
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I'll be traveling home from work for the next hour. Feel free to post the next player in my Q, thanks.
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194 | Tree
ID: 43251616 Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 18:04
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thanks MBT. he's been on my list for awhile now, and i figured he would have been picked 3 or 4 rounds ago. i couldn't pass him up anymore, and it's a nice risk/reward pick at this point.
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195 | Goldcoach
ID: 439131016 Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 18:24
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Re 186: From the looks of things I'll have to draft a trainer/surgeon next round.
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196 | Species
ID: 444482616 Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 00:32
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Queue for Round 19 only
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197 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 01:10
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99 picks left. It looks like we'll be done by early next week. Very outstanding and without a clock.
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198 | DB
ID: 401291112 Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 08:41
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I might not be able to check in much the next 2 days. I have set a large queue, please take the top player. I set mjd and wiggs as designated picker. My queue is 10 deep so hopefully that will be large enough.
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199 | Species
ID: 444482616 Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 10:25
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Round 20 queue set
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200 | MBT
ID: 31254712 Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 13:56
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Thanks guys, 6 of the last 7 players taken were at the top of my Q. I really didn't think anyone would take a flier on Patterson, terrific upside.
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201 | Goldcoach
ID: 893426 Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 14:34
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I had Patterson in my queue also. This late in the draft my queue disappears rapidly. At least it makes me "think" I've got the right players in mind.
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202 | Tree
ID: 3533298 Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 15:25
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Thanks guys, 6 of the last 7 players taken were at the top of my Q. I really didn't think anyone would take a flier on Patterson, terrific upside.
i'm thinking you like my team. lol
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203 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 18:06
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E. Carlos Gonzalez is not in the Yahoo data base.
Need a placeholder, but can't think of one right now.
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204 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 19:13
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Troy Patton is the placeholder for Carlos Gonzalez.
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205 | MBT
ID: 120411420 Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 00:36
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Actually I wanted Gio Gonzalez pitcher with the A's but Carlos Gonzalez is the only Gonzalez for the A's listed in the Kafenatid system. Gio is available in Yahoo so please make the adjustment, thanks.
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206 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 01:25
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Done.
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207 | Matt G
ID: 5414315 Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 10:32
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Small Queue set, I'll be away most of the day. If it is my pick please give me like 30 minutes before using my queue. Use until empty... thanks!
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208 | Species
ID: 444482616 Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 12:06
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Queue set for this round.
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209 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 13:40
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There's a lot of queues set today. Rather than just blow through them all, I recommend that we stop using them once we get to the top unless instructed to use them for the 23rd round. We'll have already exceeded our minimum quota for today.
LOL, I never thought I'd have to try to slow down one of these drafts.
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210 | Species
ID: 444482616 Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 15:35
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.......and mjd again snags the man at the top of my queue (Howry)! grrrrrrrr
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211 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 19:17
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210-When I saw who your pick was, I suspected that Howry might have been in your queue. Rauch was in my queue, right after Howry, also
Hopefully, brilliant minds are thinking alike.
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212 | JackHammers@work
ID: 44122616 Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 22:21
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Mjd Wished we could have stopped using the Q's at Adam Kennedy. 1st guy headed to waivers
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213 | Tree
ID: 31249819 Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 23:42
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shouldn't you be out pulling beers or something? :o)
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214 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sun, Mar 09, 2008, 00:04
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212-and he certainly won't be the last. I'd imagine that a fair amount of these later round picks are merely placeholders for guys currently on the ww.
Could be worse. You could have picked Andy LaRoache. Just about the time Matt G picked him, I read that he will miss 8 to 10 weeks with a freak right thumb injury.
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215 | Jack Hammers Donor
ID: 236482918 Sun, Mar 09, 2008, 00:12
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I'm pulling those beers now Tree...out of my fridge
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216 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sun, Mar 09, 2008, 00:21
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I'll drink to that.
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217 | Matt G
ID: 5414315 Sun, Mar 09, 2008, 18:40
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Guys I'm around if it gets back to me today. If not, I'll pick in the AM. I have a Queue, give me 30 minutes again before using it...
thanks!
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218 | s R
ID: 2673163 Mon, Mar 10, 2008, 04:15
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Tony Giarratano is placeholder for Marcus Giles.
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219 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Mon, Mar 10, 2008, 15:26
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The 25th and final round of this draft has begun.
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220 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Mon, Mar 10, 2008, 21:39
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For those who'd like to partake, here's a draft recap thread
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221 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Tue, Mar 11, 2008, 14:06
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The league is started. Please check your rosters for errors. They're much easier to fix before the season starts.
All undrafted players are now frozen and will be available for free agent pick up in 48 hours on a first come, first served basis.
Wavers are set to the inverse order of the first round of the draft.
Nice job on the recaps. I'll post mine later today.
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222 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Tue, Mar 11, 2008, 19:48
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mjd-Re: 221-Please clarify. When I go to the Yahoo site, all the rosters are empty. Thanks!!
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223 | revvingparson Sustainer
ID: 059856912 Tue, Mar 11, 2008, 20:02
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Go to your team page and then click on Wednesday (maybe Thursday) and you'll see your roster.
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224 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Tue, Mar 11, 2008, 20:21
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Thanks
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225 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Wed, Mar 12, 2008, 20:56
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I'd like to see more recaps. Get a move on, people! ;-)
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226 | Tree
ID: 52492214 Sat, Mar 22, 2008, 17:09
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i guess i didn't realize it - no DL in RIBC?
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227 | revvingparson
ID: 27222216 Sat, Mar 22, 2008, 19:16
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nope, there was discussion in the RIBC about adding a DL but it was voted down.
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228 | Tree
ID: 52492214 Sat, Mar 22, 2008, 19:22
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wow. crazy.
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229 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Sun, Mar 23, 2008, 13:40
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RE:226
It was felt that adding a DL slot would further dilute the already shallow pool of players available via free agency or the waver wire.
It was noted during the discussion that an extra bench slot was added a couple years ago to help managers deal with injured players.
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230 | mjd Leader
ID: 501381415 Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 14:11
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In-season thread
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