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0 Subject: 9th Annual RotoGurupie Keeper League

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Sat, Mar 22, 2008, 17:42

We can use this thread to communicate/discuss organizational issues.

Who's in?

Besides Species, who is out?
1MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Sat, Mar 22, 2008, 18:55
Dilligad is in
2 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Sat, Mar 22, 2008, 19:26
I am in and I will setup sometime tomorrow a league on Yahoo.
3coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Sat, Mar 22, 2008, 20:48
In
4 jumpball
      ID: 102452311
      Sun, Mar 23, 2008, 13:45
I'm in . . . and happy to keep the philliephan legacy going (although there is no way Paul would have ever finished 9th). I'll have a keeper list by early tomorrow at the latest.

Let's settle on a draft time ASAP in case I have to change up a couple things -- as I mentioned in the email messages, the best time for me would be Wed night on or after 9:30 EDT. I will not be able to be on the message board regularly due to work constraints, but will check as often as possible. I can communicate via Yahoo email.

I've talked to Brian (philflyboy) and he's willing to take over Greg's team if we need a manager to keep the league going.

Rich
5coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Sun, Mar 23, 2008, 18:06
How many keepers?
6Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 23, 2008, 21:41
We've always had 4 keepers in this league.
7 Marko / Solvang
      ID: 192512320
      Sun, Mar 23, 2008, 22:51
I can handle two teams if needed also. Solvang sluggers and would keep a team for my Brother if needed. Suggest that we go ahead and start Draft ASAP so that we can have endless time between picks or 8 hour intervals ??? I kept some notes from last year so that I will send my keepers next.
8 Marko / Solvang
      ID: 192512320
      Sun, Mar 23, 2008, 22:55
Solvang Slugger Keepers - Arod, Pujols, Papelbon, D.Matsuzaka
9Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 09:52
Marko/Solvang - as I understand it, the hope is to do a true "live draft", meaning we knock off the entire draft in one sitting.

If we revert to a slow draft at kafenatid, we won't finish until well after the season starts. (That would be OK with me too, however).

10 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 10:11
My keepers are:

Ryan Braun
Chase Utley
Jimmy Rollins
Prince Fielder
11coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 11:31
I assume no pre-draft trading as this would further delay the draft.
12coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 12:17
Keepers:
C. Crawford
C. Hamels
CC Sabathia
JJ Putz
13MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 12:33
Keepers:
B Webb
C Zambrano
T Hafner
C Pena
14 Dennis
      ID: 582222411
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 13:23
Desperate Housewife keepers:
Ichiro
Vlad Guerrero
Sizemore
Verlander
15 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 13:57
I set up the league in Yahoo with the same settings as last year. If someone does not get the invitation let me know. Of course we also have to get a new member.
16Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 14:02
Keepers:

Johan Santana
David Ortiz
David Wright
Alfonso Soriano
17 Marko
      ID: 382152418
      Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 20:19
Six teams in with Keepers. Do you want me to setup Draft on Kafentaid ??? Will do tonight if all right. Do we know who is missing ???

Should I set up Greg's team with my brother ???

Marko
18 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 01:38
I am sure that Mike Chen will signup giving us 7. Why dont we wait one more day to see who else will sign up from old team? Then we can retro stats after draft as might be hard to do live one. We should go ahead and recruit at least one person new. Jumpball- lets start with philflyboy. He can signup on Yahoo and once in about two days we know who will not be in then we can give him one of the teams for him to pick keepers.
19philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 09:10
I was invited in by jumpball and I have registered with Yahoo.

I do not sure whose team I am taking or my keepers yet. Will have them shortly
20jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 09:11
Keepers:
Berkman, Cabrera, Bedard, Wagner
21jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 09:15
Sorry . . . that keeper list above should be:
Berkman, Cabrera, Bedard, Abreu
22philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 09:16
update from the last post.. I am not sure what team I get so if you can let me know what the roster is I will give my keepers.

Tonight works for a draft
23 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 18:15
Philflyball- here is the link to your team. You are going to have a hard time picking the keepers. I presume Mike Chen will post his keepers and joint soon. This means after you we will need one more manager. Mark - is your brother up to this.

http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/mlb/2007/211239/5
24philflyboy
      ID: 11352619
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 20:08
when I use the link it tells me I am not able to see the league. Can someone copy and paste the team here please?
25 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 20:39
This maybe messy but here goes:


Garrett Atkins (Col - 1B,3B) 182/605 83 25 111 3 .301
Rafael Furcal (LAD - SS) 157/581 87 6 47 25 .270
Jeremy Hermida (Fla - OF) 127/429 54 18 63 3 .296
Ryan Howard (Phi - 1B) 142/529 94 47 136 1 .268
Kelly Johnson (Atl - 2B,OF) 144/521 91 16 68 9 .276
Casey Kotchman (LAA - 1B) 131/443 64 11 68 2 .296
Nick Markakis (Bal - OF) 191/637 97 23 112 18 .300
Hideki Matsui (NYY - OF) 156/547 100 25 103 4 .285
Joe Mauer (Min - C) 119/406 62 7 60 7 .293
Xavier Nady (Pit - 1B,OF) 120/431 55 20 72 3 .278
Jhonny Peralta (Cle - SS) 155/574 87 21 72 4 .270
Manny Ramírez (Bos - OF) 143/483 84 20 88 0 .296
Jim Thome (CWS - Util) 119/432 79 35 96 0 .275
Rickie Weeks (Mil - 2B) 96/409 87 16 36 25 .235
Ryan Zimmerman (Was - 3B) 174/653 99 24 91 4 .266
Pitching
Player IP W SV K ERA WHIP
Rafael Betancourt (Cle - RP) 79.1 5 3 80 1.47 0.76
Chad Billingsley (LAD - SP,RP) 147.0 12 0 141 3.31 1.33
Joe Borowski (Cle - RP) 65.2 4 45 58 5.07 1.43
Tom Gordon (Phi - RP) 40.0 3 6 32 4.72 1.32
Matt Guerrier (Min - RP) 88.0 2 1 68 2.35 1.05
Jeremy Guthrie (Bal - SP,RP) 175.1 7 0 123 3.70 1.21
Ted Lilly (ChC - SP) 207.0 15 0 174 3.83 1.14
Jake Peavy (SD - SP) 223.1 19 0 240 2.54 1.06
Curt Schilling (Bos - SP) 151.0 9 0 101 3.87 1.25
John Smoltz (Atl - SP) 205.2 14 0 197 3.11 1.18
26Marko
      ID: 382152418
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 20:48
Russell, yes, I will get my brother to manage Greg's old team and get his keepers in tonight. Sorry not to respond earlier. Am I correct in that this will be Greg's old team ??? Marko
27philflyboy
      ID: 11352619
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 21:26
My keepers will be:

Ryan Howard
Jake Peavy
Nick Markakis
Manny Ramirez

Is the draft order already decided? If so, when am I scheduled to draft?

28 Marko
      ID: 512562320
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 23:02
My mistake, Philflyboy is Greg's team, who are we missing ??? If we need another team my brother take a team. Need to know which Team he will get his keepers from. Marko
29 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 15:39
Mark:

The team that is still missing (other than Mike Chen is the one that was last year the one that Deepsnapper had.

Does anyone know for sure if he is not going to play this year?
30 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 15:41
Why don't we go ahead with Kafentaid with a fast a setting between picks as we can get. But first we need Mike Chen to answer.
31philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 16:49
are we still planning the draft for tonight?
32Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 17:13
I assume you can set kafenatid for 1 minute picks, thereby simulating a fast live draft. Is that what we are planning? If someone isn't available, no one will have been able to set up a queue - and kafenatid isn't really well configured for setting up a very long queue (suitable for a full draft).
33jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 19:13
More assumptions:
-- We probably can not use Yahoo! for drafting due to the lack of lead time and/or the way the league is set up. IIRC, I think there's a 90 second time limit there.
-- There's probably not enough time to input 40 picks (especially since there's only 32 above) before we start so we'll each have to do that on our own during the draft.
-- It looks like we aren't going to be ready to start a draft tonight . . . and my schedule is full the next 2 nights. I could draft on Saturday or Sunday, late morning/afternoon EST if we want to shoot to draft this weekend.

BTW, I'd suggest using a 2 minute increment -- most people will take less than that, but if someone needs to use the can . . .
34Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 21:15
I'm really sorry guys. Still trying to settle in at work and the new home.

My keepers:

Victor Martinez
Justin Morneau
Jose Reyes
BJ Upton
35Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 21:17
To me it looks like Kafenatid is the best way. If we set this for 2 minute picks this will get it done fairly fast. All we actually need now if for Mike Chen & Mark's brother to pick their keepers. Saturday is hard for me but any time Sunday after 1PMEST is OK for me. Any other comments
36Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 21:20
Sorry as I see Mike's keepers now. So all we need now if for Mark's brother to log in and someone to setup Kafenatid for Sunday afternoon if that is OK with everyone. I think Mark voluntered to do this.
37deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 21:22
Sorry for not finding Mark's email until now. If the option to play is still then I'd like to stay in the game.
38Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 21:33
Afternoon EST would be tough, as I am in Tokyo right now. But since I prolonged this thing, I can leave it in auto-draft and pray for the best. Whatever works for everyone I'll go with.
39Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 21:34
Since Marks brother has not signed up WHY NOT? Do you have the invitation for the league? Also you will have to choose the keepers.
40Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 21:35
Mike:

How about 7PM our time EST and this (I think means about 6AM for you Monday. Is this doable?
41philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 21:51
I will be out of town all weekend. Sunday night 9:00 est would work best for me. Jumpball will have to help otherwise.
42Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 21:57
Tokyo is 13 hours ahead of EST so any time after 6pm EST would be fine for me. But if you guys wanted to do earlier, I am ok with putting in auto-draft since I held everything up.
43deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 22:01
I got the Yahoo league invite, not to Kafenatid though. I can post keepers now

(Probably should before the new morphine pill kicks in). ;)
44deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 22:08
my keepers

Mark Teixeira
Hanley Ramirez
Matt Holliday
Francisco Rodríguez
45jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 22:15
I've cleared a portion of my schedule, so I now can be available to draft from 6:30PM until 8:30PM EDT on Thursday (that's tomorrow!). Since I have the 2nd pick, I can easily make a 2 man queue and you guys can start a few minutes earlier if you want. If you twist my arem, I might be persuaded to make a 12 man queue!

I can also start a draft anytime between 10AM and 3PM Saturday and anytime after 11AM on Sunday. Monday night will be tough because I have to get back from Camden Yards first :-) but unless there's extra innings, I should be able to start by 8-ish.

Welcome back deepsnapper! Best wishes for improved health!
46Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 22:40
Tomorrow is impossible for me. Sunday at 9PM is cool and should be better for Mike. Someone needs to setup the Kafenatid draft.

Welcome back also deepsnapper!!
47Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 12:37
Anyone know whats involved with setting up the kafenatid draft? I don't mind doing it.
48coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 14:15
we have 10 ....so Mike go ahead with Kafenatid
49deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 14:27
Thanks guys. I enjoy playing however bad at 5x5 I am.

Other than a Rotohog team I bought during football, I passed on baseball this year as the drafts started so early and I was looking at eye & shoulder surgery back in January, Now they're both on hold.

I can draft anytime. I have the first pick. let me setup my cheatsheet and I'll be ready in a short time with the first pick, but as far as a fast live, the weekend would be better.

50deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 17:32
I'm ready with the first pick when the time comes.

We're watching BB9 after dark on TIVO.

51Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 20:27
Ok, I'll work on setting things up on kafenatid. We're not snaking, right?
52Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 20:28
And we're set for Sunday 9pm?
53deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 20:34
fine with me.
54Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 21:57
Ok, I put in a request for a Kafenatid draft. I can change settings later on, so just to confirm:
25 rounds
no snaking
2 minutes for each pick

Correct?
55jumpball
      ID: 20251289
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 11:52
Thanks Mike!
Since you set it up, you have the ability to enter the 4 rounds of keepers. It's either that or we'll have to do that as part of the draft process.

I was going to suggest that we start this early as a slow draft with no time limit in order to get in a round or two before 9PM EDT Sunday night, but philflyboy just informed me he is out of town until Sunday evening.

See y'all at kafenatid at 9Pm Sunday night!
56Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 11:57
Perhaps we should plan for a simultaneous group IM session as well? That would allow a means for us to communicate with each other during the draft. That may be particularly important if someone is missing, or has to step away for some period.

I'm not particularly adept at instant messaging, and have no idea how to set up a group session, but I'll bet someone in the league knows how to do it.

The alternative would be to use this forum. But the forum isn't very good for realtime discussions.

Finally, we need to make sure that everyone is available for the draft - or has made an extensive queue in advance. I think everyone should confirm that they'll be there. Assume nothing!
57MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 13:03
Sunday 6pm PDT is good for me.
58coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 14:45
I will not be able to make it Sunday nite. I will leave a very long Q ...do I need to put my keepers as my first 4 in the Q?
Plus I need everybody to log in ...password/id...as I don't think I can make a Q until draft is switched on?
59philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 15:42
I can slow draft through the weekend if Jumpball calls me when I am up. I will do my best while trout fishing :)
60deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 17:27
Sunday 9pm et works for me.
61Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 19:58
Ok guys, the Kafenatid draft info was just emailed out to you guys. I still need to enter the keepers.
62Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 20:00
Sorry, I need everyone to log in and register for the draft before I can set the order and enter keepers.
63deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 21:22
registered @ Kafenatid
64deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 12:07
Everyone who hasn't signed up, please check their emails. Mike can't input the keepers until we're all registered and he was missing 4 yesterday.

My first pick will be Josh Beckett so don't let me hold up anything if someone wants to make an early pick if we slow start earlier than 9pm.
65deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 16:11
If we're still not ready on Kafenated, let's not screw Will by starting the draft tonight. He needed to put a monster queue into OTC as he couldn't draft tonight. Did he give a giant queue to anyone?

A few games delay won't make the differece with regards to my finish in the end. I keep drafting the same players and expecting differenct results. lol

I'd rather start right with everyone in the draft if that's possible (or at least represented).
66Marko
      ID: 512562320
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 16:38
I'm back so ready when you start. I still think endless time to draft to start??? (or 8 hours)

Marko
Solvang Sluggers
67Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 17:10
I emailed Will this afternoon to see if he had a queue he could send me. So far, no response. I imagine he might already be away.

If so, we should suspend until another time - or else just run a slow draft. Marko doesn't seem to realize we were going to try a fast live draft tonight anyway. Mike was proposing 2 minutes per pick; Marko suggested 8 hours! Maybe others were similarly confused?
68deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 17:28
Agreed. After 8 years I certainly wouldn't want to start drafting w/o coldwater coyote. The draft's half the fun.

If Michael gets the last couple of us signed up, he can input the keepers and we start a slow live until the fast live clock can begin at a TBD time later on.
69philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 17:49
thanks Roy for the email. I never received one to register at Kafenatid. I am in now

I will be around tonight to start the draft whenever
70Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 18:45
If we did 8 hours between drafts we would finish around the ALL STAR game. I think 2 minutes is good. Lets start tonight provided Coldwater sends his queue.
71coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 19:07
I will be able to draft for 20 mins at 6.00 and leave a Q. Are our
keepers posted?
72Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 19:11
Sorry guys. I used a previous email thraed and didn't realize philly wasn't on the list. Let me get started. Hopefully the draft runs smoothly so that I can assume my normal dead last position.
73Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 19:38
Guys, I goofed badly. When setting the order, I got philflyboy confused with jumpball because of the phillyphan team name. Argh...

I've emailed Fred at kafenatid to see if he can change it since I cannot change the order. The only other option is to switch the 2nd and 4th teams draft in each others place and I can sort out the rosters after the draft?
74Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 19:51
I spoke with Roy, and he brought up another option. Rich, can you set philflyboy as a designated picker and vice versa? I'll sort things out at the end of the draft.

I apologize for this mixup.
75Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 19:55
I spoke with Roy, and he brought up another option. Rich, can you set philflyboy as a designated picker and vice versa? I'll sort things out at the end of the draft.

I apologize for this mixup.
76deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 19:55
I think you can allow someone to be a surrogate and grant access to entire Yahoo database. It allows for someone to add to a queue IIRC.
77Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:20
Each manager would need to set the other as a DP and select the option to enable free form entry.
78Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:22
Fred emailed me back asking for details. I emailed him back, but haven't heard back. Hopefully I can get this sorted out before the draft.

79Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:27
Keepers have been entered. Please double check.

Still hoping to hear back from Fred within the next half hour.
80Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:30
By the way, I have the current timer set to an hour because I had to start the draft to try to get Fred the info he needed. I can reset it back to 2 minutes when we're ready for that.
81Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:30
Mike - when you have the draft stopped, we are locked out. Can't check keepers, and can't set queues.
82Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:33
Sweet. Looks like the order has been switched. Let me check the keepers and I think we're good to go.
83Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:34
Done. Draft resumed.
84jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:36
I'm here and ready to go . . . am expecting to be here for a couple hours tonight picking a full complement of players. If that changes, we're probably going to run into other issues with people not available. If we've got 9 people here tonight, I suggest we go for it.

Let me know what I have to do to resolve the philflyboy / philliephan issue.
85Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:37
Also, please check the positions of each player. That can be changed by clicking on the player, I believe.
86deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:50
Beckett's gone with pick #1. Any of my picks made after I take this 30mg Avinza at 10pm ET are not my fault. ;)
87Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:52
I can switch it back to 2 minutes to speed up at my pick if everyone is present or has a queue set up.
88jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:55
Mu kafenatid page is refreshing every 15 seconds, which is too often (and much more than every 10 minutes as indicated at the bottom of the screen).
Does anyone know how to change the refresh rate?

BTW, do we have a chat area set up? Can we use the one at kafenatid?
89Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 20:58
In MSIE, I sometimes have trouble with a rapid refresh rate, but it usually works fine in Firefox - if you have that as an option.
90jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:03
Thanks Guru, but that's not an option. I closed the IE window and opened another -- things are much better now.
91Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:04
Mine is refreshing every 15 seconds as well, and Firefox isn't an option for me (not before the end of the draft, anyway).

92philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:04
here and will pick in a minute
93Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:05
Any word on philflyboy's status?
94Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:05
Cool.
95coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:12
Dave ....you are my picker....I will leave you some discretion ...if
you see a position already full then go down the list if it makes
sense....IF yo u can do that.
96Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:13
OK. Looks like we may be stuck anyways.
97Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:14
Re: rapid updates.

The page will also refresh when a pick has been made. If this is not the issue, then it may be a known Internet Explorer issue. The should go to Tools > Internet Options. Under the "General" tab, click the "Settings" button for "Browsing History." Select "Every time I visit the webpage" for Temporary Internet Files.
98Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:15
Make sure you set your queue so the full list is available (and not just the top name).

And don't set it for free form, or I may not be able to see your queue at all.
99Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:16
I no longer have Dennis' #. He mentioned that he may not be around, and it doesn't look like he has a queue.

If we're stuck for another 10 minutes or so, should we reschedule? I am not sure what Kafenatid will do if there is no queue and we hit the time limit.
100Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:17
shaio hasn't posted anything here since keeper declarations. Does anyone have any reason to believe he is planning to show up?
101Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:18
If we hit the time limit, his pick is skipped and the next person can choose. The skipped pick can be made up at any time. You can avoid that by lengthening the clock, or by turning off the clock altogether.
102deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:23
Did Dennis register for the Kafenated draft or did someone enter for him? That would've taken place in the last few days. I have no number for him.
103Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:24
He joined on his own and emailed me when he did. In that email, he mentioned that he wasn't sure if he'd be around but I haven't heard back from him.

104jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:26
Unitl he gets here (assuming he's coming), we could pick for him by choosing the player that is rated the highest by Yahoo! among all remaining players with some allowance for position. Currently the player ranked highest by Yahoo is Beltran, but with 3 OFs already on his roster, I'd suggest the next highest (Phillips).

We'll also need to shorten the clock if we're going to try to finish before sunrise.
105Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:27
I'd love to shorten it. I wanted to give us a chance to have everyone present. With 2 minutes, it may be tough to check for the highest rated player.
106Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:29
I'll reset it to 2 minutes when it's my turn so as not to screw anyone. Shall we proceed with Phillips for Dennis? Or should we put this on hold until we can come up with another time?
107Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:30
Checking if Greg has Dennis' #. If he doesn't or if I don't hear back in a few minutes, I'd say we proceed with assigning him Phillips.
108Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:32
Looks like we are stuck.

I'd suggest we revert to a slow draft for now, with something like a 4-6 hour clock, and some night-time pause.

However, we really need to encourage everyone to make active use of queues if you cannot stay on top of this. We need to average less than one hour per pick (including night) in order to complete this in a week.

Feel free to name me as a DP - I'm usually around. As long as you set your queue to make only the top name available, you don't risk tipping your hand. But make sure you do make the queue available, or it does no good.
109philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:32
I think the suggestion of a semi slow draft through the week is going to be the easiest solution. Trying to get everyone together one night to draft will be tough. Other option is to see if yahoo still has a fast draft date for this week so that a person can have his team auto drafted for him if he can't show up.
110Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:34
I guess we can proceed using the Yahoo ranking method if you want to.

But do we know if the next two guys are around?
111Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:35
Problem for me is that slow draft would be tough since I'm in Tokyo, so when the draft would have the most activity, I'll be asleep. But if that's what everyone wants to do, I'll set up a queue or have someone back in the US draft for me.
112Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:38
I believe Russ is around. I haven't heard from Mark.

113jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:38
I'd much prefer a fast draft as I can not get to the site at work.
Making queues when you are looking for a particular position is tricky -- say player A, B, and C all play 2B -- I put them at the top of my queue because I want to draft that position next. I may wind up with ALL 3 of them on my team if the draft progresses quickly.

c'mon Dennis . . . check in!
114Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:41
Greg is able to draft for him. He's checking in.
115Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:43
Assuming everyone else is around, I'll reset it to 2 minutes before I pick.
116jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:44
now we'll find out if Mark is here . . .
117Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:45
If Mark isn't around, let's postpone this thing.
118MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:49
We may never all get together. I vote for Guru's suggestion to make it a slow draft and we start the season when we finish.
119Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:53
All right, let's go with Guru's suggestion. Let me change it to a 4 hour pick with a night time (for EST) blackout. Greg, thanks for offering to step in.
120jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:55
Hold on . . . Mark drafted!
121Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:56
Russell has a queue. I'll put in his top pick.
122Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:58
Switching to 2 minutes now.
123Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 21:59
just in time for Roy to take his mind-altering drugs...
124Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:04
did pfb bail?
125deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:05
philflyboy missed pick.
126Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:05
I stopped the draft since we skipped over philflyboy.
127jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:07
calling pfb now . . .
128Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:08
I set it to 4 hours and set the night time pause. If we can agree on a fast draft date/time, cool. If not, I'm ok with setting my queue and praying for the best.
129jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:08
start it up again . . . Brian is here.
130philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:08
here
131Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:09
I'll need pfb's pick so that I can put it in.
132Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:13
Can someone post the rules (positions, categories)?
133Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:14
std 5x5 w/ HR & BA

C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, IF, Util
7 pitchers
8 bench
134jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:21
can someone get a hold of Mark?
135Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:21
Doesn't look like we'll be able to do a fast draft. I'll leave it at 4 hours with a night time pause. Only concern is that if there are issues with the draft during my night time hours, I don't know if there is a way to add someone else as commish in kafenatid.
136Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:24
jumpball - assuming you still have rotoguru1.com access from work, you can use this URL to track the draft:

http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/kpeek.pl?235
137deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:24
oooh I feel funny..
138Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:25
Mike - if you send me your login and password, I can at least break in to the commish controls during the daytime hours if needed.
139Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:26
deepsnapper - I think you should draft Roger Clemens before someone scoops him up!
140Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:27
Ok, Guru, I'll send it to you.

Greg, thanks for stepping in with two picks.
141jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:28
Thanks Guru . . . I'll see if I can get there tomorrow morning.
142Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:28
[139]... or maybe even Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje!
143Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:29
[141] - if that domain doesn't work, I can probably find another that will.
144deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:39
[139] I'm looking for that chair throwing Ranger's reliever from a couple of years back. He was a real riot in Oakland.
145jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:41
Guru, I made you a DP for me and have 12 players in a queue -- hopefully, that'll be enough for 2 rounds. I'll be back online Monday night.
146Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 22:43
Frank Francisco!
147deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Mar 30, 2008, 23:37
LMAO - that's the guy. He almost made the Rangers this spring. They nailed down the chairs in the bullpen anyway.
148 shiaodog
      ID: 17217317
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 09:17
SORRY for being MIA, guys. I'm now online and can make my next pick. Thanks, Greg, for making my last pick (love it!).
149philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 13:32
a great day of drafting so far!!
150coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 14:03
I know ...Alex Rios in round 8, best pick of all my drafts this year.
151deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 14:50
Mike's queue may be depleted.
152deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 16:23
We're out for a couple of hours before the storms hit. I queued up enough for a couple of rounds I think. Please don't take 2 players from the same position. Guru, Mike, & Brian are DP.

Thanks ds
153Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 16:44
Mike has no queue, and we may have gotten back to him too quickly. Given his time zone issues, I'll suspend the clock if it looks like he's about to time out. I don't want to take undue advantage of his situation - at least, not this early in the draft.
154philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 17:12
I will be out for a few hours (Until around 7:30-8:00 est)

I left a queue with a few dp's use them until they are gone.
155deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 18:14
MikeV went for the Texas trifecta - Blalock, Hamilton & Young.
156MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 19:09
Would have got Kinsler too if I could have.
157Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 19:58
Sorry guys. I had a queue, but didn't make Guru a DP. Sorry to hold it up.

Coyotes is taking all the players I wanted! First Rios, then Hart.

Anyone want to do this over?
158Mike Chen
      ID: 352252323
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 20:09
Great. Victor Martinez apparently learned in the 7th inning that he was kept on my team.
159deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 20:48
At least with the free MLB preview we get to see all the action this week.
160coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 22:31
I am going to Seattle tomorrow with my son to check out Seattle
University. I will leave a reasonably long Q. Worst case I should be
able to check in by 8pm PST.
161Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 09:52
Hopefully, cc hasn't left yet, because there is no queue - or if there is, it's not available.
162Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 10:21
Guru:

Can you do my queue drafting? I have it setup and I will be gone until about 5PM EST.
163coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 11:17
Queue is being set up. tks
164Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 11:18
Yep. Just make sure it is marked available and that I am named as a DP.
165MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 01:02
My queue is for round 16 only.
166Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 09:50
jumpball - your queue is unavailable. If you are unable to pick directly, you can post your pick here, and I can still enter it through Mike Chen's commish account.
167deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 12:46
Out for a couple of hrs to another DR. queue is available and 3 DPs.

ds
168deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 16:09
back. will pick in a few minutes.
169philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 18:47
I am out for a couple of hours. Use the queue until it is gone
170 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 18:47
Deepsnapper:

You have a good team so far. Maybe this is because of queues.
171 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 19:36
Do you guys want me to set the league up with retro stats or not?
172Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 07:55
I'd say yes.
173 shiaodog
      ID: 73839
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 11:08
I'm offline all day today (Thursday) - my queue is stocked and I've made mchen, coldwater and markpolo1999 designated pickers. When my pick is up, feel free to take the top player on my queue. Thanks!
174MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 11:38
Retro is good
175coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 11:55
yes to retro
176Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 12:15
Does anyone know how retro lineups work? What lineup is used? Can pitchers be rotated?
177deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 12:19
retro is fine with me.

[170] Thanks Russ, but my 5x5 drafts don't always seem to work out.
178MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 12:57
Below is Yahoo's answer to Retro stats. Looks like no player rotation, just go with your best.



Any non head-to-head Custom League that completes its draft after the start of the baseball season can elect to have the stats of their starting lineup made retroactive to the start of the season. The commissioner may choose to use this option during the league creation or set it at any time prior to the draft date via the Edit League Settings page. Retroactive stats always go back to the beginning of the regular season.

Once your league's draft is complete, this setting cannot be changed.

After your league has drafted, the commissioner will have the next seven days to select the date on which your retroactive stats will be run—there will be seven days from which to choose.

By 11:59 p.m. PT on the night before the retroactive stats are to be run, all teams should have set their starting lineups to contain the players they wish to receive retroactive stats for. All teams will only be given retroactive stats for one lineup, so the team that is set on this day will act as though it was active for the entire season.

Once the retroactive stats have been run, they will not be rerun or cleared. All managers need to have their lineups set before the chosen date.

Once the retroactive stats have been run, the league will begin to function like any other.

If the commissioner does not set a retroactive stat date within the seven-day window, the league will begin to receive stats on the following (eighth) day—without any retroactive stats.
179deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 15:34
Round 23 underway.
180 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 15:50
Guru:

I am going to be out of pocket until about 8PM tonight so I have a queue ready.

I think the retro stats is the way to go. I will email everyone and post here once this is done giving the date of start so that everyone can set their lineup. This gives a little different twist.
181jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 23:37
I like the idea of retro . . . can we go back 4 years for my Randy Johnson retro stats? ;-)
182Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 23:39
Except that 4 years ago, Randy Johnson was on MY team!
183Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Apr 04, 2008, 09:18
210 picks completed in just 108 hours. Very impressive!

That's an average of just 31 minutes per pick - including pause periods.
184coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Fri, Apr 04, 2008, 12:15
Dave...thanks for helping out on my picks. We had a great time in
Seattle including a visit to Safeco Field (really cold)... only to see JJ
Putz get injured. Are you sure that you didn't deliberately skip
Johnny Cueto in my queue!
185deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Apr 04, 2008, 13:20
[183] I think we had over 108 hrs. of downtime during the original draft 9 years ago. Seems a long time ago since that first one on Sandbox.

I had a great time drafting with ya'll. I also want to thank the DP's who helped me out with my picks.

ds
186shiaodog
      ID: 73839
      Fri, Apr 04, 2008, 19:17
Hey Coldwater - thanks for making my picks in the final few rounds!
187coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Fri, Apr 04, 2008, 21:44
I tried to get you Cueto.
188shiaodog
      ID: 73839
      Sat, Apr 05, 2008, 00:11
Thanks - Cueto's retro stats for Week 1 looking good ;-)

I'm glad I got Volquez. Aint it amazing how we're trying to nab Cincy Red pitchers...
190 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Sat, Apr 05, 2008, 12:33
I have set the teams this morning on Yahoo. Let me know if there are any errors. Remember there are no DL slots in this league. I would like to see at least one & I vote for two DL slots. What does everyone think?

Also I think we have retro stats but I am not for sure but to make sure everyone needs to set their teams based upon what has happened in the past. Cueto was not in the Yahoo base on time to get his stats (I think). Good luck to all!
191Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Apr 05, 2008, 13:13
We have so many bench slots already. I don't think we need any DL slots.
192Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Apr 05, 2008, 13:19
I don't see any mention of retro stats in the league settings. Are you sure the league us set for that?

Do we start tracking actual stats on Sunday (4/6)? If so, everybody needs to set their lineup on that date.

Or will retro stats (if they are being used at all) continue to apply until the date they are activated?

Very confused...
193Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Apr 05, 2008, 13:21
The league settings page simply says "Start scoring on April 6". That implies to me that retro stats are not enabled. And the rules say that if retro stats aren't selected before the league is activated, they cannot be used.
194coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Sat, Apr 05, 2008, 14:04
I agree on DL. I would vote for less bench players.
195coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Sat, Apr 05, 2008, 15:13
I agree on NO DL.
196 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Sat, Apr 05, 2008, 18:39
What the main page says about retro stats is:

"You have elected to run retroactive stats for your league. As a result, all previously accumulated stats will be cleared and rerun from opening day. Please make sure all of your managers have their desired retroactive stat lineup set by 11:59pm PT on Tuesday, Apr 8. You can also cancel this action via the retroactive stat tool."

This means that the team in effect on April 8th at 11:59PM will accumulate the stats up to that date. Maybe it will only be from April 6th but I will check to see if I can make it go back earlier but maybe it will only start that date.
197deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Apr 06, 2008, 13:01
Interesting feature I like with the "drag & drop" vs "classic" Yahoo menu type. If you've made roster moves using the D&D menu, you get a warning msg. if you try to maneuver away from the roster page if you haven't submitted the roster changes. (I can use all the help I can get.)

No DL unless the bench size can be reduced.
198jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Apr 06, 2008, 13:26
with 8 bench slots, no DL slots are necessary.
199jumpball
      Sustainer
      ID: 33050298
      Sun, Apr 06, 2008, 13:36
Quick question about retro: does it matter how we have our lineups set today and tomorrow? . . . or will everything be calculated as of the end of all games on Tuesday no matter what we do with our lineups the next 2 days?
200 Russell S
      ID: 402262217
      Sun, Apr 06, 2008, 14:04
I am guessing that the only lineups that count are the ones in effect on the end of the day on the 8th but I honestly am not 110% certain. It might be good to also set the lineups today and tomorrow.

I see from the vote no DL slots are necessary.
201Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Apr 07, 2008, 11:14
Finally, some clarity:
"Your commissioner has elected to run retroactive stats for your league. Your league data will be updated on Wednesday, Apr 9 and all previously accumulated stats will be cleared and rerun from opening day. Please make sure your desired players are in active roster spots by 11:59pm PT on Tuesday, Apr 8."
202Marko
      ID: 16343113
      Tue, Apr 08, 2008, 16:07
Noted to have desired lineup set for tonight April 8th to update records. Thanks.
203philflyboy
      ID: 101432712
      Mon, Apr 14, 2008, 13:54
It is not very often I sit on top of a roto league especially against quality opponents. I have to take a snap shot of this while it lasts!! I will be in my rightful spot toward the bottom soon, no worries!
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