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0 Subject: TPKL 2010 Draft Discussion

Posted by: Nerfherders
- [347242717] Mon, Mar 15, 2010, 11:07

Please discuss the draft HERE.

If you are going to be away for any amount of time, please post here.

Thanks!
1wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Mar 15, 2010, 11:31
I just dont understand how we are drafting with Doug having an illegal roster. He is going to need to cut players as some point- then who gets to pick them up? I think those players need to be available in the draft and that we should have never allowed it to get to this point in the 1st place. I will not pick until we get clarification.
2 Kevin
      ID: 112581515
      Mon, Mar 15, 2010, 17:00
I guess I'm in the same boat with wiggs...but I'm new to the league and all but looks like that team does have some good players.

Does anyone know are we still on hold?
3Code Red
      ID: 52235128
      Mon, Mar 15, 2010, 18:03
The two new players in the pool certainly won't change my 1st pick.
4Doug
      ID: 72151518
      Mon, Mar 15, 2010, 19:38
Zobrist could have been had a lot cheaper than a 5th overall pick by trading... *shrug*

I was actually intending to re-sign him but it got lost in the shuffle.

Well, one trade down. I still need to clear cap... if someone wants to pair up Kemp (2) with Papelbon (10,10) or Reyes (8,8) or Lackey (7,7) or whoever else... remember you need not necessarily eat the entire contract.
5wiggs
      ID: 35149919
      Mon, Mar 15, 2010, 23:13
Was Chad Billingsly a keeper?
6Doug
      ID: 72151518
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 00:48
Yeah still under contract.

Check email for current deal on Lackey and/or Papelbon along with my upcoming 2nd round pick.
7 Kevin
      ID: 112581515
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 10:04
Apparenlty I wasn't told not to look at the taken players list. Lance Berkman is on there but I can't find him on a team. Wow!
8Code Red
      ID: 52235128
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 11:18
The find (Ctrl-F) feature comes in very handy for double checking taken players.
9Nerfherders
      ID: 310111515
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 11:40
I apologize for the mistakes on there. This has been such a crazy preseason I couldn't do my usual double-checking on the taken players list.

The best way to check is to take the latest pre-draft rosters (the one I sent out yesterday) and do a Find on the entire worksheet.

10Code Red
      ID: 52235128
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 12:05
3 new managers, a team at almost twice the cap limit, and multiple last minute deals...I don't understand how there possibly could have been any mistakes. :)
11 Kevin
      ID: 112581515
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 13:05
I understand but it would have been nice to know ahead of time that the taken players list might not have been accurate. As a newcomer I had no idea how all this worked. Ubaldo Jimenez was on the taken players and was just drafted...UGH
12Code Red
      ID: 52235128
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 13:09
He was one of the two that Nerf alluded to earlier...I understand the frustration, because I realize you have less information as a newcomer...trust me, I've been there. I inherited a team with cap trouble four years ago and am finally at a point where I can compete and have cap room. I can honestly say that this is the first time in four years that it has been like this, so I hope you don't judge us too quickly. This has certainly been a difficult year for everyone, especially Nerf.
13Code Red
      ID: 52235128
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 13:10
Also, if he had known the taken players list was not accurate, then he would have fixed it...that is why it is called a mistake.
14wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 13:55
I completely understand that Nerf is ridiculously busy with this league. I guess I just dont see how you release a taken players list- we as managers mark the players that were taken- then he says there is a change but he wont tell us who the changes are. It really makes things difficult. I had both oswalt and jimenez as kept players.
15Code Red
      ID: 52235128
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 14:10
I think he puts together the taken players list as a convenience. I know that I check the pre-draft rosters as well as the taken players list before I make a pick...it is not a perfect system, but it has worked for us in the past. I think it might be better if he just released the list of who was being re-signed and let us take care of the rest on our own. This way, we are each responsible for our own and it takes some of the work and pressure off of Nerf. Just a thought.
16 Kevin
      ID: 112581515
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 14:36
Code Red..I completely understand. I have been commissioner in a contract fantasy baseball league and I just let go of those repsonsibilties. I guess I'm just asking for clarification of where to look. When I get a taken players list I use that. I was never told to use only pre draft rosters.
17Code Red
      ID: 52235128
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 14:50
My suggestion would be to use both for the best accuracy.
18Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 15:03
I apologize again. The taken players list I did because one year people complained that they didn't know who was kept even while they had the predraft roster, and there were 2 or 3 bogus picks in the first round, so I started doing the list.

Usually, I say very explicitly that there might be mistakes on the taken players list and I would double check the rosters, but with all the craziness these last couple weeks I failed to mention that.

I garauntee that this is a fun league once it gets going, but there is certainly a learning curve involved. If you have any questions please feel free to ask me.
19 beebop
      ID: 470311915
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 17:06
Hey, can someone email me if it gets to my pick today please?
20Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 19:10
I posted the latest pre-draft rosters to the group today. It does not account for the two pending trades.

Kevin is up!
21wolfer
      ID: 11401720
      Tue, Mar 16, 2010, 21:33
I did not think it would get to me again.
22Doug
      ID: 49151269
      Wed, Mar 17, 2010, 09:21
Oh, it'll get to you about 10 more times before we finish!
23 Kevin
      ID: 112581515
      Wed, Mar 17, 2010, 12:27
Someone please post here if my last pick is already taken. I have him as available on one list and not on the other. As you know I've been struggling with this.
24Code Red
      ID: 52235128
      Wed, Mar 17, 2010, 12:53
Jose Lopez is available
25Nerfherders
      ID: 310111515
      Wed, Mar 17, 2010, 13:29
Yes thats a good pick.
26beebop
      ID: 1903853
      Wed, Mar 17, 2010, 18:17
Hey guys, i think im going to be out for the rest of the day. Im moving house.

Ive left a que for Round 6 and 7 with Nerf. If that que runs out, skip me straight away because i wont be here to make another selection. I should be around more tomorrow.
27Code Red
      ID: 51255421
      Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 19:48
3 hours without a pick.....Wolf? Bergdawg?
28Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Thu, Mar 18, 2010, 19:57
Kevin is up.
29Nerfherders
      ID: 310111515
      Fri, Mar 19, 2010, 18:24
We've been rocking this draft, great job everyone and keep it up!

Note that at midnight tonight the clock will stop until Monday at 10am, but please keep drafting and leaving queues!
30beebop
      ID: 1903853
      Sat, Mar 20, 2010, 15:55
Wolfer, Leo Nunez is taken.
31wolfer
      ID: 11401720
      Sat, Mar 20, 2010, 16:30
I know, thats what I get for trying to make a quick pick at work.
32 beebop
      ID: 470311915
      Mon, Mar 22, 2010, 17:33
Sorry for the lateness of my last pick.

Can someone email me again if it gets back to me this round.
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