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0 Subject: RIBC AA Yahoo

Posted by: MikeV - SuperDude [25924115] Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 09:56

As soon as everyone is signed up at Draftime we'll get this thing started. Good luck.
1Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 10:40
In order to get going on the actual draft, we are going to skip the process of having managers individually select their draft order. Instead, I am going to use a random draw to assign the draft order for this league. I'll do this in a moment, and post the results here.
2Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 10:43
This is the draft order for round one. Even rounds will be the reverse.

1 morgan
2 kenobi  
3 roger    
4 beebop 
5 wiggs   
6 dilligad 
7 fisher
8 andy     
9 astade 
10 chris    
11 william  
12 C!        
13 bean    
14 valkyrie 
15 taxman 
16 khahan 
3 Elliott
      ID: 124959
      Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 11:04
Sounds good!
4Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 11:10
Sounds good says the guy w/ the #2 pick. Sure.

Hey Don, looks like we get a league together this year anyway since the gurukeepers doesn't seem like its happening.
5beebop
      ID: 34030216
      Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 16:31
Woohoo! Number 4. Highest I have had in a draft in a long time.
6MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 16:50
As soon as the last 4 sign in to Draftime I'll load the order and Artofmonk can pick.
7artofmonk
      ID: 16217921
      Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 22:17
will an email be sent once the draft starts? No complaints with the 1st pick.
8beebop
      ID: 34030216
      Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 05:19
I might be wrong, but im pretty sure draftime sends an email.
9MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 09:40
Draftime does email.

We still have 3 that have not registered at Draftime.
10MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 12:54
Waiting on Roger and Astade
11artofmonk
      ID: 38247109
      Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 12:56
just curious what is the timelimit per pick for the draft.I will have limited computer access on TH and Fr. Cell coverage will be OK. I am looking for someone that might be able to help me a little. I can put a que together Wednesday night.
12wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 13:03
Art i can help you on thursday. Friday will be tough for me as well.
13beebop
      ID: 34030216
      Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 13:36
or if need be, draftime has a general queue or a pick based queue which you can set for auto pick or leave for someone else to select the next person in your queue for u.
14artofmonk
      ID: 38247109
      Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 14:19
thanks wiggs and beebop. Wiggs I might ask for your help on Thursday. I think I have your email. I will give you my cell number.
15holt
      ID: 108501712
      Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 16:58
I'll message Roger on facebook for ya.
16MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 09:45
Still waiting on Astade
17Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 15:09
any word on getting drafttime opened up and started?
18 chris
      ID: 182151215
      Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 16:15
dang if it takes this long to even get the draft started, you think we'll be finished drafting by the all star break?
19wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 16:18
this is getting to be ridiculous. Other draft has been started for a while.
20MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 16:47
If we haven't heard from him by tomorrow we'll go with 15.
21wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 16:56
WG posted he would like to join if there is an opening.
22MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 23:12
WG has replaced Astade. Now we are full and ready
23WG
      ID: 3811221423
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 00:03
Thanks for letting me join... looking forward to this league!
24MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:48
Roger has been up for awhile. His queue is very full but it is not available. As Commish I could select the player at the top of the queue and probably would later in the draft. But as it's the 1st round we'll wait for him.
25WG
      ID: 141432810
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:52
Roger that, MikeV.
26Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:52
with the first 3-5 picks you really can't go wrong, but there could be different positions/strategies to choose from still. No problem with not forcing his pick but maybe we should start a 4 hour clock soon?
27 bean
      ID: 46122249
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 12:03
If the comssioner was not planning to do so, I would like to volunteer to load players into rosters on Yahoo as they are drafted. This will allow us to use sortable stats on Yahoo to help with our selections. Already drafted players would be removed. I would never be more than one round behind, which is still a pretty good draft tool. I'll need commish until draft is over.
28MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 12:26
Let me think on that suggestion Bean.

I hate to start the clock before everyone has shown that they know how to make a pick. Roger had trouble registering for the site. We'll give him a little more time.
29chris
      ID: 182151215
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 13:11
hurry up so i can draft longoria, he's gonna hit so many HRs at yankee stadium by the time our fantasy season starts on may 8th!
30MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 13:22
Looking at the draft board, and waiting for Roger, there are 5 guys who haven't loaded their queue. The key to completing the draft in a reasonable period is everyone using the queue. Note that for it to be useful it has to be made 'available' with an option of having a timed delay before the pick is automatically made or made by a designated picker.
31astade
      ID: 38219417
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:04
Sorry folks I have been sick since Sunday. MikeV, I appreciate you trying to get ahold of me. I just saw your emails. Good luck to all of you.
32WG
      ID: 141432810
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:40
Astade, if you are still interested in doing this one and we are able to switch, I'd be cool with you taking your spot back.
33Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:41
I think now that the draft has started, its too late to make personell changes.
34astade
      ID: 38219417
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:41
It's okay WG. I missed the deadline and the draft has started. I appreciate it though. Good luck.
35MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 16:34
I have made the assumption that Roger didn't know to make his queue available and I have selected for him.
36Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 22:58
Sorry for any delay- I left a queue of those I thought would be left but got lazy and did't include my top 7 and really did not expect Adrian Gonzalez to fall to me.
37Khahan
      ID: 30223147
      Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 08:23
Are we starting the clock today?
38MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 09:30
Probably
39bean
      ID: 46122249
      Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 12:42
BUMP:
If the comssioner was not planning to do so, I would like to volunteer to load players into rosters on Yahoo as they are drafted. This will allow us to use sortable stats on Yahoo to help with our selections. Already drafted players would be removed. I would never be more than one round behind, which is still a pretty good draft tool. I'll need commish until draft is over.

40chris
      ID: 182151215
      Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 13:17
SET YOUR QUEUES TO AVAILABLE, PEOPLE
41wiggs
      ID: 497411815
      Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 21:05
We really need to use queues. There should not be a 5 hour stall on a turn.
42wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 15:40
I have Arts picks so the turn will be quick- dont go to far away
43taxman
      ID: 468322820
      Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 14:09
Mike..commish,

Hate to be the one to bring this up, but with 3 picks today from 8 AM through 1PM CST, I humbly suggest shortening the clock to 3 hours or less. No reason to not know when you turn is coming and either be on site or set up a queue.
45chris
      ID: 182151215
      Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 14:27
i agree with taxman
at least for me, the only time it takes me awhile is when the previous pick is made before i wake up at 9am...
46MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 14:40
We made 39 picks yesterday which is damn good. The other AA league is on a 4 hour clock and we are moving faster then they are. I'm going to hold off changing the clock for now.
47taxman
      ID: 468322820
      Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 17:31
No problem for me Commish.

Helps me be cause I'll be gone to near 9 PM CST tonight. I am on auto for pick 6.15, but will want to look at land scape when before picking 7.02.
48MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 18:20
18 picks so far today, still pretty good
49wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 21:58
i just loaded a 20 player queue. I am working all day tomorrow. I will try to make some picks when I get a chance.
50chris
      ID: 411141415
      Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 00:33
gogogoooo! lemme get a pick in before bed!
51Khahan
      ID: 54138190
      Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 23:23
This is pretty bad. Went a whole day and I don't even get to make a pick. If we want to finish before the season starts we need people to start paying attention.

If you know you'll be gone for a while, set a que. Add some designated pickers. You can set it so they can only see the top person in your que. If you don't want to do even that, you can set a que for a specific round.
52MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 17:39
The Taxman , while having a large queue, has really messed up the day for drafting.
53chris
      ID: 382531819
      Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 20:53
*yaaaaaaawnnnnnnnnnnnn*
54WG
      ID: 3811221423
      Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 22:16
sorry for the delay everyone... something unexpected came up.
55chris
      ID: 411141415
      Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 08:57
time for a 3 or 4 hour clock?
56Donkey Hunter
      ID: 54726178
      Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 09:40
My favorite part is that despite 12 hours between picks most of the upcoming picks still didnt set their queues to available.
57wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 11:18
guys- I apologize for the delay. This weekend I worked 2 18 hour shifts back to back. I set up large queues for both days but apparently this one ran out last night.
58Khahan
      ID: 54138190
      Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 20:43
We really, really need a shorter clock. 3 or 4 hours. I don't tbink I've ever done a 3 hour clock but it may be whats needed to get us thru this. After the draft we need time for players to be entered, need the season started in yahoo. Time to look over rosters. A few days to consider any trades is always nice.

I'm looking forward to this season and would love to have an active, competitive league in AA.
59wiggs
      ID: 497411815
      Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 21:20
I think a shorter clock isn't necessarily the answer. I believe the use of the queue is what we need. For example I have used a queue every time but after an 18 hour shift I timed out. The shorter clock would have buried me when I have used a queue for every pick
60MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 21:39
Unavailable queue is worse than no queue.
61chris
      ID: 411141415
      Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 23:39
i think i may know who i want, but i may need to sleep on it
63Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 02:52
When you start going 30-40 hours without a pick it gets harder and harder to leave queues and care about what is not going on. Procrastination definitely is contageous and apparently our draft has caught a bad case of it.
64chris
      ID: 182151215
      Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 17:02
FINALLY we're moving along
65Khahan
      ID: 54138190
      Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 17:53
I had the first pick of the day (based on clock time). If it gets back down to me I'll say we're moving.
66taxman
      ID: 21281010
      Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 22:07
Mike...thanks for the clock reset to 4 hours. Now let me be the first to urge that you set a 2 hour clock. The poli league has used a 1 1/2 hour clock w/o any bitching and what is usually a painfully slow draft has been clipping along nicely. The 4 hour clock has not created the necessary sense of urgency for the Yahoo AA managers,as we are still not close to two rounds in a day. Season starts quickly and I hope you see fit to tighten the clock again.

btw..you have done a bang up job on setting this league up.
67wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 22:13
Its too bad certain people are ruining this draft for everyone.
68Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 08:40
Well, this is the probably the first round where I really feel like my que was picked over too much. Had my sites set firmly on daniel murphy and josh willingham with Francoeur and Duda as back up picks.
69chris
      ID: 382531819
      Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 11:14
i wish beancline would pick his next speed guy so we can move on with the draft
70Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 11:28
Wow, I hadn't looked closely at his team yet, but that is a LOT of speedsters. Either way within 15 mins we can move on.
71taxman
      ID: 468322820
      Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 12:18
MikeV..I am sending you e-mail. At current rate (we just lost another 4 hours this morning) we will finish draft after 1st game is played at 6:00 AM March 28th. We must shorten clock.
72chris
      ID: 182151215
      Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 12:25
i've got a spreadsheet with everyone's lineup that i've copied the espn projections to

somebody make sure roger drafts a catcher, because at the moment jesus montero isn't catcher eligible
73Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 12:36
chris, most people are counting montero as a catcher because that is where he'll be playing. He should have yahoo eligibility within 7 games (5 game started, but as a catcher he may get 1 or 2 days of rest or at dh).
74taxman
      ID: 21281010
      Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 20:19
#64 No..we are not moving :<(
75taxman
      ID: 21281010
      Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 21:16
will someone please text me when I'm up. Have been looking at computer every hour or so since @ noon and now need/must spend time with family for next few hours.

My cell text is Khahan Rocks!5

thanks for the help.
76Khahan
      ID: 54138190
      Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 22:22
text sent to taxman and cell removed.
77beebop
      ID: 131002822
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 02:01
Its my pick. I am at work but about to leave. I will be home in 1 hour and will pick then.

I left all my stuff at home today.
78beebop
      ID: 34030216
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 03:23
Ha, forgot I was on auto pick.
79Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 09:14
mcrae fan is on his way into work and will pick when he gets here. shouldn't be too long.
80MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 10:03
Would someone explain the logic of setting your pick to auto with a 239 minute delay
81Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 10:27
Because a 240 min delay would just be ridiculous?
82Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 13:48
Now I see the logic in it. Whether its intentional or not it gives him his full clock without him timing out. When he would have timed out and his pick would have been missed (ie the punishment for timing out) the auto pick took the top of his que and assigned that guy. So he gets his 4 full hours while we wait w/out risk of losing his pick.
83MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 14:30
The evidence does not indicate he is that smart.
84Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 14:44
We had just been moving so well suddenly. It was nice going yesterday. Just a bit frustrating.
85chris
      ID: 411141415
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 15:10
i like mike's answer
86Donkey Hunter
      ID: 54726178
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 15:20
I vote to add an 11th roto category based on total clock used during the draft. Oh what a coincidence, I have the lowest time and get the 12 points for that.
87Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 16:11
Actualy DH, you're in 2nd place and would get 15 points for it. ;)
88chris
      ID: 411141415
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 17:21
he said he wanted 12 points; don't argue with the man!
89Donkey Hunter
      ID: 53751821
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 19:17
is Dilligad a real person? I saw all the 0s and assumed he was some kind of computer glitch.
90MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 19:39
Not real, just real old
91taxman
      ID: 468322820
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 21:24
you barely classify as a pup, but you have been glitchy.

Congrats for maintaining a 00:00:00 draft draft clock. First to my knowledge.
92Donkey Hunter
      ID: 53751821
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 23:33
Since posting #86 I have had my two slowest picks of the draft. Guess I jinxed myself
93 Elliott
      ID: 41222310
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:02
Question; I didn't make the Charlie Morton pick and I still had time on my clock. Can this be fixed. When I logged in at 930 I was surprised to see that pick. I wanted to pick Garrett Jones.
94MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:18
Your queue was 'available' which means your designated picker(s) or the commish is free to make the selection.
95 Elliott
      ID: 41222310
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:27
So the commish is making my picks based on what is in my Queue since I don't have any designated picker.
96MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:42
Yes, but only if you have designated the queue as available.
97Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 12:00
Just turn your que to unavailable. Personally I think he should be able to take a mulligan on that pick. He never set anybody has a designated picker. The commish is one by default but that doesn't mean a person wants a dp.
98MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 12:06
If he wanted someone who has since been selected it becomes a significant problem as there is no mechanism to fix it. If the player he wanted hasn't been picked yet I can do something about it.
99 Elliott
      ID: 41222310
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 13:57
Got tied up with kids and doing the work from home thing so my response is late. At this point it is what it is. Lesson learned.
100Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:59
I doubt the draft will come back around to me today. However I am leaving soon for the weekend, heading up to the Great Wolf Lodge in the Poconos. I'll have my cell phone which I can monitor and make picks from but don't really know how often I'll be able to check in. I'm setting my 1st pick on a 1 hour delay, 2nd pick on no delay to keep things moving, however if my que empties please make a reasonable pick for me.

If by some chance we get to the end of round 25 by Sunday evening before I'm back JUST END. Throw a place holder in for me and I'll pick up somebody when I get back.
101Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 15:11
1 slight change - instead of doing 5 'pick based ques' with differnt timers, I just did a general que with a 1 hour timer. If it gets down to me and my odd round (first pick on the turn) times out at the 1 hour mark, feel free to go ahead and make my next pick (even round) for me immediately.

I've made taxman and valkyrie dp's for me along with MikeV having the ability.
102wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 20:30
No need to wait 3 hours between picks at this point in the draft. Set a queue, make it available, and lets finish this thing. I love to draft, but i feel like for the 1st time in a draft I have actually lost interest.
104taxman
      ID: 21281010
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 21:06
re 100

Mike, if his queue runs empty, I defer to you for making "a reasonable" pick for Khahan. I do not know of a reasonable pick this late in this deep of a draft...for him or me.
105MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 21:35
I'll think of something Donnie. He's shy an OF a pitcher and a couple benches
106Khahan
      ID: 41259249
      Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 11:02
Had a chance to check in. At this point reasonable would be filling in holes I have with active players. At least for my nect 2 picksy que shouldn't run out. I probably won't get to check in again so just make my picks from que immediately for me Donnie.
107taxman
      ID: 21281010
      Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 15:35
well..I apologize...ran 3.5 hours on last pick.

No real excuse. When I left for grandson's b'day party at 9:45 this morning, we were still awaiting the days first pick ... 7 before my 1st with a second two picks later.

I had my first set on auto, but failed to set the 2nd. My bad.

108wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 11:37
when you miss a pick I thought you were supposed to continue missing picks until you made the original missed pick.
109chris
      ID: 411141415
      Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 12:25
valkyrie's ruining my life!
i want this draft OVER!
all missed picks should be filled with molinas
110MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 13:38
Figured 2 hours was enough. Wish he'd told me to make his picks as his queue is full.
111MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 01:20
Rosters loaded in Yahoo. Check them and point out my errors.
112Khahan
      ID: 54138190
      Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 07:56
Mine looks good Mike. thanks for commishing this.
113Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 17:14
Sorry guys thought I had put it on auto- was on live draft until late night and then I am on west coast and was victim of the east coast bias again. I think it was still 5am when I timed out? Chris sincerely sorry for any "ruining" I did gGt ot to admit I like Wiggs kind of lost interest somewhere among the 2 day no pick periods.
114C1-NRB
      ID: 451120913
      Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 17:27
My team isn't loaded in Yahoo. I'm still getting the "Your commissioner must enter your offline draft results and hit the 'Begin Season' button in order for your league to begin play" message on the team page.
115Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 17:45
I have the same problem both with Mozilla and IE.
Also on baseball 2012 menu Yahoo says our league hasn't drafted yet?
116MikeV
      SuperDude
      ID: 25924115
      Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 18:20
Draft results under draft central has a listing of the draft.
117C1-NRB
      ID: 342522619
      Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 20:52
Draft results under draft central has a listing of the draft.

So it is...

Thanks for commishing, by the way; it can be a thankless job.
118Khahan
      ID: 54138190
      Sun, Apr 29, 2012, 09:21
Now I know I'm in trouble. I've picked up 2 seattle hitters in the past week for my team.
119Khahan
      ID: 39432178
      Thu, May 17, 2012, 09:32
Ugh, my AAA luck is bleeding over into this league. Now sitting on:
Michael Morse
Pablo Sandoval
Daniel Hudson
Vance Worley

all on the DL. Those aren't just filler guys or late round, "he won't hurt me too much" guys. Getting tough to field a team and make moves.
120Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Fri, Jun 01, 2012, 18:14
Khahan- I have 6 after cleaning a couple out- haven't been able to field a full roster for a couple weeks- they include Chipper, c. Santana, Gardner, Bay, A.Jackson and manny. Thats a starting 3B, C, and all 4 OFers. Not bitching it's part of the game- but I think it dwarfs your 4 .
121holt
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      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 19:00
can someone post the standings here? just curious to see what's happening in all the leagues.
122beebop
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      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 05:54
1. Dilligad 120.5
2. beebop 107
3. Get Dale in the Hall 102
4. Valkyrie Silver 98
5. Bean's Skysox 96
6. RoBoGuRu 95
7. Tax AA 94.5
8. West Texas Whirlwind 91
9. WG 87.5
10. Fisher Cats 85
11. Niese's Nose Job 78
11. Kimbrels and Bits 78
13. The Flying Elvises! 77
14. wiggs supernovas 61
15. Khahan 46.5
16. Haymakers 43
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