Posted by: Great One
- [340592712] Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 15:57
Please post 7 keepers here (and leftovers if you want a chance of someone buying up your leftover guys).
Please also check them on the Yahoo website which we are testing out this year. But for any discrepancies we'll refer back to this as the official keeper declarations.
Please post by 11:59 PM on Monday 3/12/12 or they will be picked for you. These will be entered into Kafenatid Tuesday and we'll start the draft with no timer for the first round and then go from there.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 16:06
GO Keepers Prince Fielder, 1B, DET Dustin Pedroia, 2B, BOS Starlin Castro, SS, CHC Brett Lawrie, 3B, TOR Buster Posey, C, SF Bryce Harper, OF, WAS Jon Lester, SP, BOS
For Sale Pineda T.Hanson Jurrjens Axford Valverde N.Cruz
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 17:21
Keepers:
Alex Gordon Derek Jeter Matt Cain Ubaldo Jiménez Josh Johnson Adam Wainwright Cameron Maybin
Goers (make an offer):
Stephen Drew Jeff Francoeur Johnny Giavotella Corey Hart Casey Kotchman Carlos Lee Wilson Ramos Marco Scutaro Mike Trout Miguel Batista Joe Blanton Aaron Crow Dillon Gee Ricky Nolasco Francisco Rodríguez Fernando Salas Jordan Zimmermann
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 18:39
Khahan's Keepers
Adrian Gonzalez Evan Longoria BJ Upton Ian Kinsler Dan Haren Yovani Gallardo Matt Latos
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Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 20:26
Keepers Josh Hamilton Brandon Phillips Jose Reyes Alex Rodriguez Joey Votto Roy Halladay Justin Verlander
Leavers Dustin Ackley Carlos Beltran Lance Berkman Ike Davis Drew Stubbs Chris Carpenter CJ Wilson
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 22:08
Keepers: Ellsbury Rollins Utley Lee Greinke Hellickson Moore
Available for hitting: Lee Greinke
Available for draft picks: Papelbon Madson
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Pete N.
ID: 31551019 Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 22:26
Keeps Mike Napoli, C, TEX Elvis Andrus, SS, TEX Aramis Ramirez, 3B, MIL Billy Butler, DH, KC Shin-Soo Choo, OF, CLE Neftali Perez, SP, TEX Max Scherzer, SP, DET
My keeps borderline stink. I don't think anyone wants my leftovers.
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Bh
ID: 426111516 Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 23:09
Keepers: Pujols J Upton Crawford R Weeks D Hudson Hamels
Others: Wieters Markakis D Bard
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 15:28
Updated:
Keepers:
Stephen Strasburg Alex Gordon Derek Jeter Matt Cain Ubaldo Jiménez Josh Johnson Adam Wainwright
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 15:31
Would like to start the draft on Thursday or Wednesday at the earliest to have time to evaluate the players in the pool.
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barilko65
ID: 5211220 Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 21:11
Sent out a couple trade emails, but if nothing comes of them here are my keepers:
Ryan Braun Carlos Gonzalez Troy Tulowitzki David Price Jay Bruce Pablo Sandoval Adam Jones
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dpr
ID: 34136118 Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 21:53
Miguel Cabrera Felix Hernandez Andrew McCutchen Eric Hosmer Ryan Zimmerman Carlos Santana Dan Uggla
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Bh
ID: 426111516 Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 21:59
Add Youkilis to post 7. Ack.
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barilko6
ID: 5211220 Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 22:27
Trade announcement
GO trades John Axford and his last round pick Barilko trades 7th round pick.
Replace Adam Jones with Axford in my keepers above.
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Great One
ID: 461302322 Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 22:38
Confirmed.
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Bh
ID: 426111516 Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 23:59
Switching gears. Keeping Wieters.
Wieters Pujols Youk Hamels Hudson Weeks Upton
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Bh
ID: 426111516 Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 23:59
Phew. Guru's clock is 2 minutes fast.
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Tree
ID: 17039238 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 00:13
yahoo isn't let me pick keepers.
Jose Bautista Hanley Ramirez Giancarlo Stanton Adrian Beltre Desmond Jennings Michael Young Brian McCann
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holt
ID: 108501712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 00:44
yeah a few days ago I saw the keepers thing but don't see it now.
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holt
ID: 108501712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 00:46
nevermind i see it now. couldn't do it on my phone.
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holt
ID: 108501712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 00:50
won't let me checkbox them though.
Kershaw Lincecum Granderson Holliday D Wright M Cuddyer Konerko
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holt
ID: 108501712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 00:50
hmm - it's 11:48 cst btw
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Tree
ID: 17039238 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 00:57
i tried putting them in at 10 pm central, and it wouldn't let me.
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Khahan
ID: 373143013 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 08:24
Looks like everybody but Astade who hasn't checked in or responded to email for weeks.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 09:29
Emailed Astade and told him he has until I get all the keepers entered to get me a list or I'll pick for him. I expect to be done by noon.
Then I need to just make sure we've got all the draft pick trades rounded up and I can enter them. I'll turn the draft on but there won't be a clock or anything 1st round.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 09:32
I moved the deadline on Yahoo to check them off to today so those who didn't enter on Yahoo please get that updated.
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blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 10:40
Wasn't able to change my Yahoo keepers - and it doesn't have the Wieters update.
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Tree
ID: 17039238 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 10:49
nope. not letting me check off my keepers.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 10:51
Not sure why, I can still go into my normal page and move checkmarks around (and I couldn't this morning before moving the deadline).
I changed Weiters with commish control.
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dpr
ID: 34136118 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:04
I believe that if the deadline is set for today that means we had until last night to get them done. Previously when it was set for monday you had until Sunday evening.
I havent set mine on yahoo because when I last checked it did not reflect my trade with Astade. That could have been updated by last night but by then the option wasnt there
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:11
I'll bump it out a few more days. But still weird that I was greyed out from changing my keepers this morning, then made the switch and now I can.
There are a bunch of draft pick trades on the Yahoo system we made using the trade utility. So I'm trying to sort that out and copy that over to Kafenatid.
GO trades John Axford and his last round pick Barilko trades 7th round pick.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:17
I moved Tex/CC and Miguel to their appropriate teams. So see if you can set keepers on there now.
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dpr
ID: 34136118 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:21
Mine are set. Not sure if you can see them with the deadline not passed however.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:27
So I'm picking Astade's and we can all help here. Highest ADP from the bottom list?
Kemp Cano CC Teixeria Jered Weaver
2 more from Brian Wilson Ethier Lind Alexi Ramirez Pagan Beachy Bumgarner Aroldis F.Cordero
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holt
ID: 108501712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:34
I'd just take whoever has lowest yahoo ranking. I saw that Astade joined a AA ribc league but was replaced last night due to no correspondence since he signed up.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:36
Well hopefully he's ok since he's disappeared.
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dpr
ID: 34136118 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:39
IMO Bumgarner is clearly in leaving Ethier Wilson and Beachy as candidates. Wilson has the highest ADP on yahoo while Ethier has the higher preranking. Beachy is second on both. He already as 3 SPs so another may not be as helpful.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:44
Wilson makes a lot sense, gives him a closer. So to me in the last spot its Bumgarner vs. Beachy vs. Ethier. And since he's already got Kemp I probably look away from Ethier.
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dpr
ID: 34136118 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:44
Btw when I was working through my trade with Astade he said that he was busy with work and was often slow to respond (several days) so most likely it is more of that, instead of something sinister come up.
That said what is the point of choosing his keepers? We cant get past pick 6 without him anyways.
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Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:55
I agree with dpr.
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Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:56
In post 38.
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Khahan
ID: 373143013 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:56
I was looking at his team earlier. I never keep closers, but Astade kept Wilson for 2011 so it doesn't seem a stretch to keep him for astade again.
Between bumgarnder and ethier, bumgarner just makes more sense. Ethier is coming off a down year and ranked pretty low. Bum is young, still a lot of potential. I'd go wtih bum.
That said what is the point of choosing his keepers? We cant get past pick 6 without him anyways.
I for one would like to know who is available and which teams have which slots filled. Helps me with my draft strategy.
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barilko6
ID: 45211311 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 12:01
I think Bumgarner is a lock to be kept for his team.
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 12:09
As there are already 3 pitchers, I would suggest the 2 hitters from the bottom list with the highest ADPs.
That said what is the point of choosing his keepers? We cant get past pick 6 without him anyways. This begs the question of when to look for a new manager if we cannot contact Astade. Another option,albeit a difficult one, would be to pick a team for him to give him more time to make contact.
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barilko6
ID: 45211311 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 12:15
I see only 2 pitchers being kept so far: CC and Weaver.
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blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 12:21
Astade has always been fairly unresponsive in every league I've been in. I've tried to bring it up in the past and seen wrath. I wouldn't mention it here except there seems to be support from other managers as well. I'd vote to replace him, personally.
Wazaap Guy asked me a while ago to get in this league. If that won't work for you guys, there are probably many others.
As for that team's keepers, pretty sure it's Bumgarner and Ethier, although I could give in to Wilson over Ethier.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 12:26
Alright, going Bumgarner + Wilson.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 12:29
Now gotta figure out how to translate all these Yahoo website draft pick swaps and get them over to Kafenatid.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 13:50
This is a summary of what I figured out based on the Yahoo draft pick trades. Barilko used "24th round" for one of them so just made that 17th (our true last round).
2011 in season trades GO 5th for PD 15th BH 7th for PD 9th Barilko 4th for PD 17th (last) DaBomb 4th for Pete 7th Holt 4th for Pete 11th Tree 9th for Pete 13th
2012 Offseason Pick Trades DPR trades, Teix, CC + 3.03 for Astade trades Miggy, 6.07 GO 17th round pick Barilko trades 7th round pick
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astade
ID: 38219417 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 13:54
sorry folks. I have been sick since sunday. I can tell you who my keepers were...I need to go through my emails to catch up and then i'll sign up on kafenatid.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:01
Trades and keepers are entered on Kafenatid. I'm waiting a bit cause I guess I selected 19 rounds but we only need 17. Want to see if Fred can change that before I "Begin Draft".
Once that is squared away I'll turn it on but with no clock. Hopefully everyone can get a pick and get it rolling in the subsequent 24 hours and then we'll officially flip the clock on. Right now its just a 6 hour clock, does that sound right?
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holt
ID: 108501712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:21
Pete said it was ok I can go ahead and keep my 4th rd pick - he doesn't want it.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:24
Astade, you are all set on Kafenatid, I guess at some point you registered and we put those keepers in we hashed out earlier in this thread.
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astade
ID: 38219417 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:32
RE 45
I'm sorry you feel that way Blue Hen. It's the first time I'm hearing it. I've been in the league since its inception and I'd like to stay. Don't worry your buddy WG already replaced me in RIBC.
PS if you are going to mention how I don't respond to your trade offers it's because they are lousy and not worth a response after you continually send garbage offers.
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Khahan
ID: 373143013 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:46
In all honesty, Astade, when I commished the league you would wear me out chasing you down to get signed up at yahoo and kafenatid/drafttime.
However, with that said, once you did sign up and we started the draft I don't remember any real problems. Active during the draft, no major delays and active participation and managing of your team from opening day until the end of September.
I definitely wouldn't vote to replace Astade now that he's popped in. History tells us all systems normal now and we should cruise along.
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astade
ID: 38219417 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:48
Good to know Greg. Sorry I was such a pain. I will try to do better during the start up of future seasons.
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Khahan
ID: 373143013 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:54
I will try to do better during the start up of future seasons
Nahh, kick GO's butt. haha.
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Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:56
Hey GO, any chance you have the record of the players involved in last season's trades?
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 15:15
I don't. Looks like there wasn't a rolling trade summary list like previous years I guess cause most were using the Yahoo system. So we'll still need to keep one of those as we go.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 15:27
I suppose we can just keep Draft Discussion right in here. Anyone want to be Co-Admin on Kafenatid? I am moving soon so I might be intermittently out of touch.
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Khahan
ID: 373143013 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 15:48
GO,
I'm familiar w/ admin duties on drafttime, go ahead and bump me to co admin and I'll help out as needed.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 15:52
Done.
Also - note on Draftime. I recommend everyone take a second and go to Edit Account, Edit Real name... so for example instead of my login ID showing up when I'm doing trade swaps etc. it shows Great One. If your ID is the same, then I guess it doesn't matter. But it can make your commish's life much simpler.
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Khahan
ID: 373143013 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 16:21
Hey GO,
Is it possible to have yahoo reflect players taken as keepers? I know you can input draft selections as we go. But if it can show who's taken as a keeper, it would make life really easy for sorting out who I want.
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Great One
ID: 512531316 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 17:54
I think can do that once everyone gets their keepers checked off on Yahoo. But I don't seem to have a way to check who has or hasn't entered their keepers yet which is a flaw in this system (vs ESPN's setup).
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 18:03
If you want go, I'll help input any keepers that aren't listed. I know you are busy with a move so if you want to just complete keepers I'll take some time this evening and make sure all are inputted.
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dpr
ID: 34136118 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 20:57
BH, I had a really hard time letting Heyward go. As I was deciding I was reminded of looking over the draft results of the year before I joined and being shocked you got Upton with a mid/late first round pick. Granted he had just come off a big year but still someone that young with that much talent I was surprised to see available. I am sure you are hoping that this turns out the same for you.
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Bh
ID: 426111516 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 21:58
Upton is better than Heyward but there is a lot of upside here. I almost took Cruz, who has more near-term potential.
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Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 22:21
I see that Justin Upton was a 2nd round pick that year. I actually took Votto as my 1st round pick then (and also kept Scott Kazmir).
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 23:07
I'm sorry guys but I most likely won't be getting a pick in tonight. Still trying to sort out thru who is available. I should have one pretty early tomorrow though, shortly after getting into work around 8:30.
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 23:10
actually, as I say that I see Crawford is available. Fully healthy I expect 20 hr, 30 sb, .270 ba and close to 100 runs scored.
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Tree
ID: 17039238 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 00:53
if Crawford had dropped to me, i would have taken him.
i realize i went out on a limb taking Darvish this early, but i've got a man crush, boom or bust right here!
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holt
ID: 108501712 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 00:56
crap how do we know who is available? ug
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Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 00:57
I think there needs to be a daily pause.
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holt
ID: 108501712 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 01:02
I need some time for this pick. whoever is after me, you might just want to check it in the morning. going to have to put a spreadsheet together I guess.
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 01:07
wait--there is not draft pause? We need to get one, like, nowish.
holt, click on the Players link. The full list will come up, with the taken players being lined through.
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holt
ID: 108501712 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 02:07
thanks pd
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 09:06
What are standard draft pause times for night and weekends?
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Khahan
ID: 30223147 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 09:21
Most pauses end at 8am eastern. Often see either midnight or 1am eastern for starting the pause.
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barilko6
ID: 45211311 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 09:43
Is it just me, or is there no ability to select players from a list to put into your queue?
Do we have to manually type out each player's name for our queues?
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 09:48
To make a master que (use Pre-Rank) you need to put all the names in. So last month for all my drafts I qued up 300 names off an ESPN list to a Pre-Rank. It only took about 30 minutes cause you just need the first 3 letters and then hit enter. I can use this list across all drafts.
Importing a pre-rank is something Fred is working to add, we've discussed at length. Kind of a tricky situation cause he can't just blatantly steal a list off ESPN or Rotoworld or something like that. But then a default rank would seem like its his own kind of ranking and you don't want to imply to people these are how these guys should be ranked.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 09:50
So midnight to 8 AM EST seems reasonable. Do we want a weekend pause too? I don't think its really necessary with a long 6 hour clock. I would hope we could all check a couple times even on the weekend.
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barilko6
ID: 45211311 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 09:56
re:79 But last year (and other years) all the players were put in alphabetically, and you could just scroll down and click on the guy you wanted.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 10:01
I'm not sure, I've been doing this Pre-Rank system for a few years now. Not sure how it works otherwise.
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Khahan
ID: 30223147 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 16:40
GO, serious request here. Could you please just active the keepers and not worry about if everybody has them inputted? If you have a lot on your plate just give me co-commish for the draft and I'll gladly finish inputting them. But getting see the list of AVAILABLE players without having sort thru who's taken and who's not will be a BIG help.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 16:51
Well great. So I confirmed all the keepers so it would take them out of the player pool... but now that means I can't enter draft picks anymore. We now all will have to add our own players.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 16:56
I had a feeling that would happen. There isn't a way to just take the keepers out of the pool without actually "completing" the draft.
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Khahan
ID: 30223147 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 17:06
that seems kind of backwards.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 17:12
I'm leaving work now. Pete's gonna time out now... so I don't know what to do about that. I already emailed him.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 17:16
I'm not sure its backwards, that's the way we have had to do it in G20 on ESPN and CBS previously... but I guess I had just hope it wouldn't be the case for some reason.
And we've never been able to sort in the player pool for a draft previously so I'm not sure why all of sudden we were trying to do it.
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 18:13
And we've never been able to sort in the player pool for a draft previously so I'm not sure why all of sudden we were trying to do it.
You can enter picks in as you go. You do 1 player at a time if you want. And as you add it they get removed from the 'available' pool.
I assumed it would let you do keepers first since traditionally they are declared pre-draft. Figured this was just one of those 'duh' things that even draft sites would realize and accomodate for. Guess I gave the sites too much credit. Don't see why Yahoo woulnd't let you put the keepers in, then still let you add players normally.
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 18:16
Looks like you either hit 'begin season' or 'begin season' was somehow tied to entering keepers (considering its yahoo, probably this).
I'm just going to wait until waivers clear on the 17th and then as I make picks jump into yahoo and pick up the player. If we can get everybody to do this, it will make keeping track of things really easy.
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Great One
ID: 512531316 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 18:17
I hear ya, I guess it thinks when it applies the keepers to your team that all your draft picks are coming along with it at the same time.
So we'll just have to add them manually ourselves.
Pete is gonna pick around 7:30. I will wait on my pick for him should I come up.
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blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 18:19
Pete's going to pick at 7:30 ET. He knows he's been skipped and will pick then.
Khahan, can't you just print out the ESPN Top 300 and cross people off as they get taken?
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 18:21
I do use espn along with yahoo and another site to figure out approximate value of players. But I draft as often from work as from home. I don't want to carry around sheets and sheets of player lists every day between work/home and anywhere else I may be. Why should I when the info can be a button-press away.
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Pete N.
ID: 31551019 Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 20:21
I'm here and picking shortly. I apologize for the delay. I forgot to set my queue this morning. I'll do my best to make sure it doesn't happen again.
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 20:11
crap how do we know who is available? ug
We've had all weekend of fa pickups w/out affecting waiver wires. I just want to reiterate Holt's comment from earlier. Please go to Yahoo and pick your players up. Do it just like its in inseason since Yahoo's keeper input is apparently screwed up and our season has actually 'begun'.
It'll help GO's administrative duties and help all of us keep better track of who is where and available.
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astade
ID: 78462922 Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 23:24
GO, sorry I added Zobrist by mistake. can you please drop him from my team? thanks.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 12:04
No problem, dropped Zobrist back to FA.
One thing that will work out is less work for me after this thing wraps up! lol...
And remember we are done when Round 17 ends. For some reason Draftime wants us to add 2 more rounds. They did the same thing to the Poli draft so I'm not sure whats going on with that. We must have both read something the same way.
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Khahan
ID: 373143013 Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 14:01
Btw, GO. I can't believe you took Edinson Volquez out from underneath me. Was going to pick him this round. I think after last season he should have simply defaulted to me.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 14:02
Send me a cheeseburger and some beer and he's all yours.
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Khahan
ID: 373143013 Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 14:24
Just the cheeseburger. He's not the worth the price of beer. Unless its black label?
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 15:07
I entered my roster today, but on Wednesday the players were back in bench spots. Anyone else with this issue?
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Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 15:24
They'll stick if you set your roster for the next day.
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 15:41
Thanks.
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 00:42
Looks like we're done, yes?
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Barilko6
ID: 172451210 Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 08:20
My draft was done the second BH told me that Jarrod Parker was sent down just before I picked him!
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 08:57
DRAFT IS COMPLETE - Everybody please add your players if you haven't already
Please don't do any add/drops yet -- only add your players that are yours. On Friday I'll check all the rosters, add anyone who hasn't been added and will set the waiver priority. At that point will "turn the season on" and you can add/drop whoever you want.
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Tree
ID: 17039238 Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 10:38
draft is also *stopped*
which means i can't see my players to enter them into Yahoo.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 10:55
Draft is completed now officially so you can see everything. Don't add the last two picks I manually gave everybody.
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Barilko6
ID: 172451210 Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 11:10
We could always see the picks. You just have to go to draft peek and then click on out league.
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barilko67
ID: 372322212 Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 13:32
As an added incentive to get all the players picked up onto manager's teams, tomorrow morning I will be crafting my Annual Barilko's Buzz, which will be a ranking of all the teams in the league.
So far those that will be included in the rank are:
Barilko6 DaBomb GO Khahan Perm Dudes (Missing 1 player?) Hoboken HomeRunners Peter N. (Missing 1 player?) Jam Block Astade Holt
Blue Hen should take note that his team is the only one not in the group!
Also...when are waivers going to be run?
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 13:44
post 106
There isn't a way for everyone to go on waivers anymore. All I can do is the give the word that everyone is now available to add/drop whoever they want. 12PM EST seem ok for that on Friday?
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barilko6
ID: 112572212 Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 13:57
Yeah, that was the answer I was looking for. Noon Friday works for me, but then we have to make sure all the picked players are added to rosters.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 15:01
As far as I can tell its just Blue Hen... everyone else has been adding players so they should be aware they need to be fully rostered by now.
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blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 15:27
Done.
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 17:05
I'm not really missing a player--Zobrist was accidentally picked up by another team and when he was dropped was on waivers. I've put in a claim for him but he won't clear until tomorrow.
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 17:34
Does this mean that at 12 Noon Friday we can pick up FAs without waivers?
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barilko6
ID: 33228239 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 10:28
Alright...time for Barilko's Buzz! A chance to review the draft to see where everyone is at this point of the season.
Order listed is the order that teams appear on my Yahoo list, listing my own first.
Barilko6: Solid across the board in hitting, some definite weak starting pitching here. Decided to try a new strategy where I waited on starting pitching and looked for some undervalued guys later on in the draft. I will have to hit the WW throughout the season to bulk up the pitching, for sure. Jarrod Parker getting sent down just before I made my pick sucked. Guys who I wanted that were picked just a little bit before I could get them included Howie Kendrick, Anibal Sanchez, Francisco Liriano, Kelly Johnson, and Adam Dunn, but generally I was very happy with the guys left on the top of my queue when it was my turn to pick.
Great One: Keepers were a mix of established elites (Prince, Pedroia) and young up and comers (Lawrie, Castro, Harper, Posey). Filled out roster with a collection of sleepers from random websites in guys like Jansen, LeHair, Weeks, Bay, and Volquez, and then mixed in some guys coming off injury news like Hanson, Drew, Bay, and Tabata that were probably down in value because of it. I don't think I've ever seen GO use a pick so early on a closer, but Papelbon is definitely one of the top guys to have. Not a lot of home runs here, but that is probably the easiest stat to grab during the season, but GO will be hoping his young studs continue to improve, and we all know I will be cheering on Lawrie pretty strongly. Markakis was a great value pick in the 6th round, Mike Minor is dominating the spring box scores, and Carlos Lee is always severely undervalued in fantasy baseball.
Khahan: Some really great keepers with AGonz, Kinsler, Longoria, Haren and Gallardo. Not a big fan of Upton and Latos though. I think its just me, but I've never seen the huge upside that many see in Upton, and I think Latos away from Petco will become just an average guy. We shall see. Made some really good early picks here with Crawford, Shields, a couple closers, Hart and Duda. I like all of those pickups. Getting ESantana, KJohnson and Gaby Sanchez later was good value too I think. Good combination of power and speed here, and a very nice 1-2-3 SP punch with Haren, Gallardo, and Shields, providing Shields doesn't resort back to the Shields of old. The Myers pick looked a lot better before the Mets acquired Quintero, but not much you can fault with Myers in the 17th round. Outside of AGonz, not too many guys that will help with AVG unless Crawford rebounds in a big way, and Longo and Kinsler bump up the ratios a little as well.
Blue Hen: If I could pick after Blue Hen every year, that would be ideal. Not only would that mean I beat him in the previous year, but also its great to follow someone who's picks come so quickly. Thanks BH! Returning Pujols is always a bonus, providing the league change doesn't hurt him as it has others in the past. (I don't think it will). Justin Upton is an elite talent, as is Cole Hamels. Not a huge fan of keeping Weeks, Wieters, and Youkilis. I am a fan of Daniel Hudson though. My concern about Weeks is that he's injury prone and losing a big bat behind him, and that he won't come close to matching last year's stats. Youkilis will be good if he can stay healthy all year. Heyward was a great pick in round 1, but Jesus Montero was a reach in round 2. Soria in round 5 was a huge blow here, but since our draft already started as late as you might want it to, there is not much that can be done. Getting Broxton later helps, although I think I would rather have Holland if given the choice. A good collection of closers here might also help alleviate the loss. Similar to Khahan, not too much help in the AVG. Later round picks of Brandon Belt and Mat Gamel could pay off, especially if Gamel can continue his hot bat during the season. Addison Reed, Bud Norris and Anibal Sanchez were also good value picks in my eyes.
Perm Dudes: I don't think I've ever seen a guy keep so many starting pitchers!!! 5! That being said, Strasburg, Wainwright, and Cain are great. Johnson, if he can come back, is also great. Ubaldo maybe not so great. Jeter isn't keeper worthy though, and Gordon is on the cusp. Getting Zobrist overall is a safe pick, although with this squad as it is I would have preferred to go with a huge upside guy like Heyward or even Crawford. But...some really nice picks follow with Morse, Mauer, Davis, Ichiro, and Ethier, and then some nice value on Prado, Scutaro, and Masterson. Managed to get a popular sleeper in McCarthy without reaching too high, and a nice late flyer on Soriano is worth the gamble. Not a huge fan of the closer group here, as both could be out of jobs before the end of April, but some very nice SP, and some guys coming off off seasons (Ichiro, JJOhnson, Ubaldo, Mauer, Ethier, Wainwright) means PD could be looking good this year.
Hoboken: I am hot and cold on the keepers here. I really like Ellsbury, Moore, Lee and Greinke, but can't see anything special in Utley, Rollins, or Hellickson. Between his injury risks and poor production, Utley isn't a top 2b anymore. I do think Rollins has a good chance to rebound though. Picking up Hunter Pence, Paul Goldschmidt, Ortiz and Street was a really nice start though, especially after drafting Cashner to handcuff Street. A huge change in ballparks should be a bonus for Street. Lots of SBs here and two really really nice late round value SPs in Zambrano and Niese. Another team with some great SP here.
Homerunners: Anytime you can have Miggy Cabrera as one of your keepers, its a good year. Adding in McCutchen, Hosmer, and King Felix is a bonus. Uggla, Santana, and Zimmerman are solid players, but with some warts attached. Asdrubal going 3rd overall was a shock for me, but following up with Wilson and Madson was pretty good. Picking Reynolds this early, considering there are already some holes on AVG was another surprising pick. I do like some value in Marcum, Farnsworth, Sale, Fister (even though many sites say he is due for regression), Bauer, Hill, and Adams. I wonder if there was too much value placed on guys having big years last year though. (Asdrubal, Melky, Fister, Francoeur, Aybar, Pagan, CJ Wilson, and even Madsen) If some of these guys repeat, or even come close to repeating, Homerunners will be looking good. I do think McCutchen is going to bounce back nicely though.
Pete N: Not a top set of keepers here, and this coming from someone who is really high on Scherzer this season. Butler is a budding superstar, hopefully Napoli can stay healthy and repeat, and he is in an contract year. Andrus is a poor man's Jose Reyes, which isn't a bad thing, but there just isn't that one guy you would look at and say, yep, he's a stud keeper. Picking Pineda 2nd overall was a surprise for sure, but following that up with Freeman, Kendrick, and Romero was very solid. (Although I think Romero is in for some regression) I really like Freeman and Kendrick though. Got some good value in closers Walden and Marmol, and then again later with Bourjos who I think is going to be really good, provided the Angels don't rotate some of the playing time around. I also like Logan Morrison to turn things around, provided his bat doesn't get lost in his cavernous new stadium. EE was a favorite sleeper for some sites, but he always seems to start really slow and then end well, so we shall see here. Cueto, Chacin, and Teheran offer some good later round value. Bourgeois' trade to the Royals hurts his value, otherwise he would have been a great value too.
BombSquad: Returning two of the best pitchers in baseball as keepers is always awesome. Halladay and Verlander are just that, as they have a much more proven track record than some of the other contenders who are ranked just as high. Votto is a stud as well. If Reyes can play 130+ games, he too can be an elite option. Following that, ARod is the epitome of boom or bust, but sadly I think he falls closer to the bust side of things. Phillips offers consistent production from 2b, so you know what you are going to get, and Hamilton is another boom or bust candidate here. A very nice start to the draft with Victorino, Adam Jones (who I really like), Betancourt, Motte, and Myers. I do wonder if Betancourt and Myers are still closing come June though. I also wonder about Kendrys Morales in the 8th round. I know others liked the pick, but I just think its too early for a guy who hasn't played in 2 years. We shall see. Following that Bomber went with some guys who were awesome back in the day with Johan, Morneau, Bedard, Dunn, Rolen, Quentin, and combined with keepers like A-Rod, this team might have seen its best days already! Adding Garza to Halladay and Verlander was nice, and it seems like everyone has some nice SP except for me. I also like Boesch as good late round value. (And Dunn too, for where he went). Not so much for Kuroda who I think gets hurt by moving to New York.
Tree: Some nice keepers with Bautista, Hanley (who I think rebounds), Giancarlo, Jennings, and Beltre. Young is a solid option too, not a big fan of McCann. This was the anti DaBomb draft as Tree picked up every young potential guy out there! Darvish, Cespedes, Trout, Ackley, Cozart, Pestano, Fowler, Altuve...man there are way too many potential guys here for my liking, but if they pan out, watch out!!! I think Cespedes and Trout were taken too early, but Darvish, Ackley, Cozart, and Altuve were decent value. I also like Luebke this year, and I know I am not alone on that sleeper train. Rivera is a top closer, but unless Pestano unseats Perez, he might be a wasted pick that early. Jurrgens and Lewis offer some nice SP value as late as they went.
Astade: Missing in action at the start of the draft, but still manages to return some top notch keepers. Kemp and Cano are the elite of the elite. Weaver and CC offer a solid SP base. I am pretty high on Bumgarner as well. Not a big fan of Wilson, based on his arm troubles last year. Teix will be great if he can learn how to not try and pull every single pitch for a home run. This draft started out pretty great with Cruz, Beachy (who I thought should have been kept over Wilson, so it worked out), Storen, Bailey, Stubbs, Bonifacio, Beltran, Hardy, and Romo all great picks to start things out. Very nice. I'm not a huge Chapman guy, but he has potential I guess. Some nice late round value with Jackson, Helton, and Alonso. Alonso would be better if he was sans Petco. That's french for without. If Stubbs, Rios and Wilson can bounce back, and Storen, Bailey, Wilson and Cruz can stay healthy, this team will be good.
Holt: Some nice SP here with Lincecum and Kershaw. With the new fence line at Citi Field in play, Wright also becomes much better too. Granderson is a question mark though....if he can come close to repeating, he is a great keeper. Holliday is solid, Konerko has to break down sooner or later with age, but continues to be solid, and Cuddyer was a keeper only because he landed in Colorado. Lets see how that goes, but his position eligibility is a huge plus. If Kennedy can repeat, he is a great first pick for Holt. If. I think he does alright. Dee Gordon was a big reach in round 2, but based on team needs was an ok pick. Lots of nice picks here, but maybe a few too many sleepers in guys like Kipnis, Thronton, Liriano (who I like) and de Aza. Also maybe buying in on Avila at his peak. I like Beckett, Hanrahan, Balfour, and Martinez where Holt got them. I don't care for Francisco in the 5th round though.
Anyways, it was a fun draft, a good pace for the most part. If you can use any of my summaries to send me trade offers on guys I said that I liked, so be it!
Good luck to all!
My top 4: Barilko6, Khahan, DaBomb, Astade.
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Great One
ID: 13046197 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 10:30
Loki - yes - we don't have a way to send them through waivers anymore cause when the keepers were submitted that "started" the season.
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 10:37
Nice overview, barilko!
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 10:49
Dirty Dozen Title Summary Current 2-Time defending champion is Da Bomb.
Overall Championships Da Bomb - 3 Holt - 2 GO - 2 Astade - 1 (Inaugural Champ)
The Streak 7 straight seasons 1st-2nd place have been a combo of DaBomb, GO, Holt
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:55
I mistakenly made a FA move early. Will this create a problem?
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:58
I dropped him back to FA for the time being. He is not on waivers cause any player add/drop same day doesn't go to waivers. So you should be all set to add him back starting at 12. But watch out cause there might be a fight to get him now that we know who you want -- its like calling into the radio station and having your phone on redial to get in quick... :)
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Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 12:00
Very nice read Barilko. I had an interesting draft in that I took a lot of comeback player guys, or at least more than I usually do. Felt my team's structure allowed me to take some chances. I think I'll either win this league by 20 points or win it by a couple. No middle ground ;)
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barilko6
ID: 502122311 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 12:12
Thanks. Just to make it clear, these rankings were simply based on rosters right now at the start of the season. I know that there are guys who make smart trades and work the waivers harder than others, so it will be fun to see how it all plays out!
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dpr
ID: 34136118 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 12:39
I entered the rosters into a program (drafttracker.net) which compiles projections from 11 sources and averages them for each player. I did some editing to peoples teams to have it reflect starting lineups moreso than full rosters as you can't play each player every day. I chose 6SP and 3RP from each team where possible. For teams that had empty roster spots I tried to leave an extra player from their team for ease (for example DaBomb has Rolen in his cather slot as I am sure he adds someone to get stats there). BH had only 5 SPs and 5 RPs(no soria) to account for it. I made other assumptions to, and didnt take notes as I did it. GO and PD only have 2 RP so this leaves them with a few less innings than other teams. The projections are not fully up to date as for example myers is considered a starter (a replaced him with soria on DaBombs team to account for the saves, although DaBmb has 4 closer and I only counted 3 RPs, no capps). I think this is enough disclaimers. I will post the results in the next post to make formatting easier for me
Sorry that looks kind of ugly, but I didnt know how to line it up on these forums. Think the numbers are clear.
I obviously am pretty happy with how my team stands in this rankings, especially considering I did not draft based on them. Over the years I do not feel I have proven myself to be an attentive enough in season manager, as others in this league have, so it will be interesting to see if I can keep up. Also interesting will be if GO can manage himself out of the early hole he seems to have put himself in.
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 13:00
Well my office got busy and I could not get back to the computer in time to pick up Cain. I also missed out on Marshall. Cain would have been nice because my hitting is so atrocious, but perhaps Niese will finally get it together and pitch like he did prior to his injury.
Barilko-Thanks for the overview--interesting reading. The other players I considered keeping were Howard, Goldschmidt and Papillbon. I erred in thinking that Utley would be back and should have dropped him instead of Howard; however coming back from an Achilles tear is tough. I did not keep Goldschmidt thinking I could get him back in the draft, and he would replace Howard. Hellickson may regress this year, but he should be very good going forward.
All in all, I think that the Zephyrs are in for a rough season.
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barilko6
ID: 502122311 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 13:04
Hmm...interesting. My top 4 picks, based on my own judgements, would be 2nd ,3rd, tied for 4th, and 6th...not bad!
My thoughts on my team line up pretty nicely with those projections too, as I thought my hitting was pretty great but my pitching fell a little short.
Thanks for posting that!
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 13:06
dpr-I like that program's analysis of my team much better than my own.
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 13:15
Ditto!
Last year I carried Wainwright and Strasberg all season to set up what I've got now. Hopefully this will come through for me.
I am likely to have to cast about for saves here and there on the waiver wire, but I'm pretty confident in the team this year. Last to first, baby!
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dpr
ID: 34136118 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 13:35
I realized that I somehow swapped Lawrie and Hellickson between GO and Lokis teams. Hopefully I didnt make any other errors but this obviously opens the possibility. GO gains a few spots and hitting (I was shocked by those ones) while Loki drops back some. Unfortunately Barilko takes over the top spot.
Loki, if its any consolation I had been eyeballing Cain for a bit, too. Have 2 OF that may not make opening day so I was looking for a bit of extra protection. However, once I'm full speed, I'll have an extra OF to trade.
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:10
Khahan-No consolation, but it is better to be busy at work than to pick up a fantasy FA.
dpr-Unfortunately that makes more sense to me too.
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barilko6
ID: 352132313 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:13
Yeah, I now have 4 of the top 5 teams in my top 4. The only one left out was DPR, which I think can be attributed to one of the comments I put in my analysis, in that I think he got a lot of players after a peak season, and maybe my own thoughts have those guys regressing more than the projection program does, while maybe the program even has them improving on last year's improved stats, both of which are entirely possible.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:17
I always start off terrible and never do well in any projections, that's probably why I don't bother with any of those tools.
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dpr
ID: 34136118 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:39
Here are the players you mentioned with their ranking last year and well as the slot I drafted them.
Asdrubal 43 (87), Melky 24 (153), Fister 47 (183), Francoeur 50 (171), Aybar 110 (207), Pagan 164 (229), CJ Wilson 51 (99), and even Madsen 111 (124).
A good amount of regression is already calculated in. To me, the success of my team will be based on the boucebacks of my supposed studs, Felix, Zimm, and McCutchen. And as mentioned, in season management
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barilko6
ID: 352132313 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:40
Not entirely true GO. The only time I've ever placed you low in projections is usually in the Saves category. This year your team is different I think. I could be proven wrong, and I do know that you are one of the strongest WW pickers.
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blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:48
Feel free to throw this back in my face, but I'd take the under on: Melky 153 Francoeur 171 Fister 183 CJ Wilson 99 Asdrubal 87 Madson 124
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barilko6
ID: 352132313 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 15:03
Meaning you think they will do better or worse than those projections?
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Khahan
ID: 373143013 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 15:12
Don't ask Barilko. That way, we can throw it back in his face no matter what come the end of the season. :)
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barilko6
ID: 352132313 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 15:15
haha nice
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 15:17
I definitely never pay for closers, but to me they were a tier above the other available talent so I guess we'll see how that works out.
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 15:31
I'm liking some of the new Yahoo tools. Clicking on the yellow news box for a player brings up a tab bar which includes league availability for a player in other yahoo leagues you might be in. So if a player you want to get is also available in another league you can see it right away.
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 15:33
That is awesome. I wrote them with that idea like 2 years ago. I'm sure they didn't listen to me, but glad they implemented something like it.
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dpr
ID: 34136118 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 15:35
yea that is a great tool. I always hated having to go to each league to see if a guy was there, often relying on memory which wasnt always right.
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 15:36
Maybe I should have stayed quiet about it...
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Great One
ID: 340592712 Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 16:38
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dpr
ID: 34136118 Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 15:25
So using khahans logic we can claim BH is already wrong on Madson
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 17:54
GO-When you put Cain back as a FA, you did not put Niese back on my roster. I cannot get him back without losing waiver priority.
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Bh
ID: 426111516 Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 18:59
I meant worse than those projections, obviously. I'll give you guys a mulligan on Madson- that was too easy.
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Great One
ID: 36214199 Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 22:56
Got it loki
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Great One
ID: 36214199 Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 23:02
Do u want Neise back or to keep Rodriguez?
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 23:09
Sorry, after my post I picked up Rodriguez. I'll keep him. Thanks.
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loki
ID: 363291112 Wed, Apr 11, 2012, 13:30
I will be back for 2013. Nothing to lose but a DL spot by picking him up now.
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holt
ID: 108501712 Wed, Apr 11, 2012, 22:09
oh man what's up with lincecum? if anyone wants to trade for him, this may be a good time to make an offer!
With Ellsbury out for a large part if not all of the season, my already weak team has moved closer to the 1st pick in 2013. I must have jinxed myself by picking up Martinez. My RIBC AAA team also took a major hit as Ellsbury was my 1st round pick.
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 11:12
Ouch! Tough when a guy with that much talent goes down.
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 12:38
Dont worry Loki, even with elsbury down you can't be doing any worse in AAA than I am.
All in all this is just a horrible year for fantasy baseball for me. I've never been off to such a slow start.
However, it put a real kink in my plans to do to you, Holt and DaBomb what you are doing to me in Dirty Dozen.
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holt
ID: 108501712 Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 18:57
lol
loki - i am short on pitchers and long on outfielders in ribc, in case ellsbury left you shorthanded.
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loki
ID: 363291112 Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 19:18
I only have 5 SPs, one of whom is Andy Pettite.
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holt
ID: 108501712 Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 20:02
no prob - I wish I had 5 sp's! having a bad bad bad time with pitching this season.
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Khahan
ID: 373143013 Wed, Apr 18, 2012, 14:08
I was looking over rosters to find a manager w/a speedy shortstop + extra closer I could make a pitch to and I noticed astade. Anybody realize drafted 3 closers:
Andrew Bailey Drew Storen Brian Wilson
Talk about crappy luck.
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Tree
ID: 47331814 Wed, Apr 18, 2012, 15:04
i have an abundance of second basemen, and was thinking we could work something out.
then i saw you have Ian Kinsler.
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astade
ID: 38219417 Wed, Apr 18, 2012, 15:55
Khahan,
Yeah... can't wait for 2013 :)
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holt
ID: 108501712 Wed, Apr 18, 2012, 19:14
khahan - what kind of deal are you looking for? check my roster.
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Tree
ID: 17039238 Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 01:10
With Ellsbury out for a large part if not all of the season, my already weak team has moved closer to the 1st pick in 2013.
i don't understand when people do this.
we're, what, two weeks into the season? and you're already giving up?
i lost one of my four keepers in Football 101 - a guy by the name of Peyton Manning. I still won the championship.
Tree-I think that you misunderstood.I always play competitively for the entire season no matter how poorly my team is performing. However realistically with Ellsbury out I expect to go nowhere this year. I realize that a team can do well without its top player. In fact I am doing reasonably well in RIBC AAA after losing Ellsbury in that league also. I probably just jinxed myself!!
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Thu, May 03, 2012, 15:50
Insanity has been defined as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Every year I play in only 2 leagues, Dirty Dozen and whichever RIBC league for which I qualify. And every year I either draft A.J. Burnett or pick him up as a free agent. And every year he burns me in the same way.Yesterday: 12 ERs in 2.2 innings, ERA of 40.50 and WHIP of 4.85. all of which resulted in negative 10.5 points.
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Great One
ID: 2431114 Thu, May 03, 2012, 15:59
And you will drop him and he will throw a shutout next week. Don't forget that bonus AJ always throws in.
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Sat, May 05, 2012, 09:48
Barilko-You must be glad that I rejected the trade. At least I drafted Cashner as a backup to Street.
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barilko6
ID: 3341867 Sun, May 06, 2012, 08:18
Yeah...that was a lucky break!
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barilko6
ID: 3341867 Sun, May 06, 2012, 08:19
(For me!)
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Tue, May 08, 2012, 11:29
GO, Trade Offer: My entire team for Bryce Harper. What I find most incredible about the Hammel-Harper incident was Harper's actions after he stole home and when he was interviewed after the game. He got up, dusted himself off and went right to the dugout. He did not turn around nor say anything to Hammel. Then after the game when he was interviewed,I am certain the reporters expected unprintable expletives from a 19 year old adolescent. However all he said when asked about Hammel was something to the effect: Good pitcher, great game. Harper will be fun to watch. can anyone say Roy Hobbs?
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Great One
ID: 2431114 Tue, May 08, 2012, 11:50
Thats why i sat on him for a season lol... :)
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loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Tue, May 08, 2012, 11:54
I did not think he would go so early, and I waited too long to get him. If you recall, I tried to trade for him, but you were not interested.
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blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Tue, May 08, 2012, 12:08
I'm looking to trade either Matt Wieters or Jesus Montero, my two catchers. I want to be more efficient.
Looking for an impact player in return - most likely a hitter.
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Great One
ID: 2431114 Tue, May 08, 2012, 12:11
I'll trade you Buster.
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Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Sat, May 19, 2012, 00:04
Re: 123 Looking like the former option ;)
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Bh
ID: 426111516 Mon, May 28, 2012, 09:17
Yahoo isn't working for me so I'll put this here. I'll try to make this move on yahoo later today.
-Drop Chase Headley, move Youkilis to Bench from DL. -Drop Pedro Strop, pick up James Russell -Drop Rafael Dolis, pick up Shawn Camp
Thanks for understanding.
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Mon, May 28, 2012, 09:48
Hen, I picked up shawn camp before coming here and seeing your post. I would have grabbed both but I wasn't sure who else to drop. Aside from that I tried to make the move last night and kept getting a message along the lines of: A player in the transaction has already played games for the day and the roster cant be changed now.
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Bh
ID: 426111516 Mon, May 28, 2012, 11:26
I think the rules prevent night-time moves on Yahoo, but I'm not sure. I think I successfully dropped Headley but it kept freezing up when trying to put Youk into the bench slot. I'll keep trying but I figured posting here was the best way to lay claim, especially in light of what happened in my RIBC league this week.
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Mon, May 28, 2012, 11:56
To me, laying claim can only be done 2 ways:
1) draft a player not in the database and keep a slot open (which this league has never allowed)
2) have the player on your roster
Thats about it. I was trying to make the changes last night about midnight. I've made changes at that time in the past.
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Tree
ID: 17039238 Mon, May 28, 2012, 13:19
i've never heard of yahoo not allowing over night changes either. i make changes all the time.
i'm with khahan. posting a claim, to me, sets a bad precedent.
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Mon, May 28, 2012, 13:46
Never had a problem here, and I pick up players all the time.
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Bh
ID: 426111516 Mon, May 28, 2012, 14:52
Still can't get the site to work. Love Yahoo.
What's the bad precedent? That people who know what move they want to make, not retroactively, can actually make it happen? What's the downside here? Do you think I'm posting here because I'm being lazy?
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Tree
ID: 17039238 Mon, May 28, 2012, 15:06
maybe it's blocked/ :o)
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Bh
ID: 426111516 Mon, May 28, 2012, 17:03
Thanks for trying to help. It's not blocked- I was actually able to drop Headley (can I have that back?) but now it freezes when I go to my roster.
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barilko6
ID: 64392816 Mon, May 28, 2012, 17:39
I will admit when I saw BH's post I stayed away from picking up Camp. As for Khahan, I've never had problems picking up or dropping a player that had already played games, and have only ever heard of that for same day transactions leagues.
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Great One
ID: 512531316 Mon, May 28, 2012, 19:51
Nobody should be locked at any point, we aren't doing same day transactions.
Do I need to add someone to somebody's roster? What are we looking for here?
I don't think we can blame the website if we are all making successful moves at the same time, no way to tell its not just BH's internet or computer that is screwing up. And if Yahoo was down, it would be down for all I'm sure - not singling out an individual user.
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Mon, May 28, 2012, 20:47
Well, there definitely seems to have been some kind of issue. I had one last night and BH had/is having one today. Though my issue seems to have been resolved, BH is kinda up the creek if his is still a problem.
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holt
ID: 108501712 Tue, Jun 12, 2012, 20:02
I figured Astade might keep a better eye on his lineup this season since he started out so well. I know life gets busy and all but you can find a new catcher and do a drop/add in just a minute or two.
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astade
ID: 255501220 Tue, Jun 12, 2012, 21:51
Holt, I am keeping an eye on my lineup. I check in atleast 5 times a week. I've gotten a bit unlucky this season, I have 7 people on the DL. I want to keep Lucroy for the time being and I don't see a better replacement. It's a long season... lay off.
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Khahan
ID: 39432178 Wed, Jun 13, 2012, 09:13
Hey astade..you've got mail.
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blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Wed, Jun 13, 2012, 09:49
Somehow I wound up with eight closers. Anyone want one?
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holt
ID: 108501712 Wed, Jun 13, 2012, 13:41
Sorry Astade - I didn't mean to make an offensive post. Your team is in 4th place so the empty slot surprised me.
BH - I'd prob be interested. Not sure if our teams are compatible for a trade or not. I'll look at it later or you can take a look if you have time. I wouldn't give up any top players but I might deal from a position where I have some depth.
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blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Wed, Jun 13, 2012, 14:43
I'm so far out of it, I'm really just looking for young pieces that will help me compete. No, that doesn't mean I'll give you Albert Pujols for Collin Cowgill.
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Khahan
ID: 39432178 Fri, Jul 06, 2012, 09:40
I have a handful of offers I'm going to be looking at this weekend. Sorry if this is kind of long letting these offers sit out there, but some offers are for the same players or offer me players from the same position. So I've been trying to evaluate trades in light of other trades.
Also one or two of you have emailed potential proposals. If you are serious, put something thru in a trade offer.
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Fri, Jul 06, 2012, 11:22
Take your time. You got my follow-up to your email?
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holt
ID: 108501712 Mon, Jul 09, 2012, 13:19
Just confirming the Lincecum - Nathan trade. Should be pretty obvious why we both made the trade. Lincecum has been a big part of my team ever since he entered the majors but he's destroyed my era and whip this season. There's a chance he'll snap out of it at some point (he's still getting K's and occasionally has a good game) but I don't have any more slots to devote to players who don't produce. BH/WG's team gets a potential SP keeper and gives up a closer who is most likely not keeper material.
Best of luck with Lincecum. Hopefully they can figure out what's going on and he turns things around.
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blue hen Dude
ID: 710321114 Mon, Jul 09, 2012, 13:43
What Holt said. Anyone else willing to trade potential keepers for closers?
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Khahan
ID: 54138190 Mon, Jul 09, 2012, 20:35
Ok, the towel is officially in for this year. But I'm making a strong draft foundation for next year.
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Great One
ID: 512531316 Mon, Jul 09, 2012, 20:42
I've got a high draft pick for sale for a power hitting OF who won't destroy my AVG. Non-keeper fine.
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Khahan
ID: 39432178 Thu, Jul 12, 2012, 10:39
Just need to document my recent traded draft picks to track them easier:
Khahan trades: Evan Longoria and his round 8
Perm Dude trades: Matt Cain and his round 6
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Khahan trades: JJ Putz and his round 9
Barilko trades: His round 4
I'm still in trade mode. I feel like I'm still looking an excellent list of keepers for next season so I wouldn't necessarily be looking for keepers unless I'm trading away keepers. Draft picks are always great for moving parts that can prop up stats for contenders.
I'd be keeping the likes of Adrian Gonzalez, Ian Kinsler, David Freese, maybe Brandon Moss or Corey Hart, Wade Miley, Jordan Zimmerman, Matt Cain, Yovani Gallardo, James Shields
I'm not big on keeping more than 3 SP so I'd be willing to trade one of them for a keeper quality OF. Not prospect type keeper, but established keeper quality.
Second half will really help solidify my keeper list for next season. So if you are struggling with starting pitcher and have a good OF keeper or SS, talk to me.
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Great One
ID: 2431114 Thu, Jul 12, 2012, 10:53
We should attempt to keep all pick trades in one running tally... has this been all as far as picks go? If not please add yours. 2013 Draft Pick Trades Khahan trades Longoria/8th to PD for Cain/6th Khahan trades Putz/9th to Barilko for 4th GO trades 1st/Smoak to Pete for 13/Edwin
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Great One
ID: 2431114 Thu, Jul 12, 2012, 10:55
we really should move discussion back out of this keeper/draft thread over to the regular baseball forum Dirty Dozen regular season