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0 Subject: 2018 Political Baseball League - Season 16

Posted by: Bean - [304422310] Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 12:39

The Poli Baseball League Constitution

Yahoo Baseball
7 keepers; No more than 3 prospect keepers
Next Day Transactions - Daily/Tomorrow
Waivers - Continual Rolling List - 1 day waiver period
Trade Deadline - Closest Sunday to August 31st
Trade Review - League Votes
Supplemental draft picks may be traded

Scoring Settings
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util
SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL, DL
Max IP - 1400
Batters Categories: Runs (R), Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases
(SB), Batting Average (AVG)
Pitchers Categories: Wins (W), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average
(ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)

MLB Supplemental Draft
Draft Utility - Draftime
Player must be in the Yahoo database at the time he is picked in the
supplemental draft.
No time limit initially, unless deemed necessary
Straight Draft, Reverse order of standings

Prospect Draft & Rules
Straight Draft, Reverse order of standings
To be conducted BEFORE the Supplemental Draft
Under 300 AB's or 125 IP to be draft eligible
You can retain up to 3 prospect eligible players from one season to next
There are 5 rounds in the prospect draft - minus a pick for each prospect you carry over.
Any player at any level (as long as they are under limits) can be drafted as prospect. College, International, Little League etc.

Prospects may be called up in-season and can be sent back and forth to prospect list until the end of the season in which they exceeded the stated prospect limits. As with our new rule, managers can keep prospects for the entire season in which they exceed their stated prospect level limits. So if your prospect hits the limit in May, you may still hold his rights as a prospect until the end of that current season. Prospects may be called up or sent down anytime in-season or off-season prior to keeper declaration. If called up and made an MLB keeper, prospects will lose their prospect status.

Prospect rights may be traded.
Prospect picks may be traded as long as receiving team has enough spots to make the draft pick at time of draft.
You can trade for as many prospects as you like - however you'll need to have 3 or less at the time of the Prospect Draft

Approved rule changes for 2019 Season:
1) Change pitcher category Wins to Quality Starts
2) Change batter category Batting Average to On Base Percentage
3) Change prospects from 3 keepers/5 total to 5 keepers/8 total


Poli League Trophy Case
2001 Toral
2003 Baldwin
2004 Skanks 4 Bush
2005 Baldwin
2006 1625 K St Allstars
2007 Biliruben
2008 Biliruben
2009 Tree
2010 Biliruben
2011 Nerveclinic
2012 GO
2013 WG
2014 GO
2015 WG
2016 Nerveclinic
2017 Meatwads
1Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 12:40
Prospect List:

1.02 Art of Monk  Fernando Tatis SS 3B SD
2.02 Art of Monk  Ryan McMahon 1B/2B/3B COL
3.01 Art of Monk  Triston McKenzie RHP CLE
K Art of Monk  Austin Meadows OF PIT
K Art of Monk  Lucas Giolito RHP PIT
1.10 Barilko Matt Olson 1B OF OAK
2.10 Barilko Heliot Ramos OF SF
K Barilko  Shohei Ohtani SP LAA
K Barilko  Alex Reyes RHP STL
K Barilko  Franklin Barreto SS 2B OAK
2.01 Bean Jose Martinez 1B/OF STL
2.09 Bean Jake Faria
K Bean  Nick Gordon SS MIN
K Bean  Ozzie Albies 2B SS ATL
K Bean  Yoan Moncada 2B 3B CHW
1.07 Biliruben Juan Soto OF WAS
2.07 Biliruben Keston Hiura 2B MIL
K Biliruben Vladimir Guerrero 3B TOR
K Biliruben Eloy Jimenez OF CHC
K Biliruben Julio Urias SP LAD
1.04 Bobo Hunter Greene
2.04 Bobo Franklin Perez RHP DET
K Bobo A. J. Puk LHP OAK
K Bobo Mickey Moniak OF PHI
K Bobo Clint Frazier OF NYY
1.06 C1-NRB Luis Robert OF CWS
2.06 C1-NRB Braden Shewmake INF T A&M
3.04 C1-NRB Jose Siri OF CIN
K C1-NRB J. P. Crawford SS PHI
K C1-NRB Sean Newcomb LHP ATL
1.11 David Miguel Andujar 3B NYY
2.11 David Forrest Whitley RHP HOU
3.06 David Brendan McKay
K David Lewis Brinson OF MIL
K David Reynaldo Lopez RHP CHW
1.05 Goatlocker Mackenzie Gore
2.05 Goatlocker Brent Honeywell RHP TB
3.03 Goatlocker Mitch Keller RHP PIT
K Goatlocker Jorge Mateo SS 2B NYY
K Goatlocker Amed Rosario SS NYM
1.14 Meatwads Royce Lewis SS MIN
2.14 Meatwads Luiz Gohara LHP ATL
3.09 Meatwads Taylor Trammell OF CIN
K Meatwads Gleyber Torres SS NYY
K Meatwads Rafael Devers 3B BOS
1.12 Nerveclinic Luke Weaver RHP STL
2.12 Nerveclinic Dinelson Lamet SP SD
3.07 Nerveclinic Teoscar Hernandez OF HOU
K Nerveclinic Nick Senzel 3B CIN
K Nerveclinic Brendan Rodgers SS 2B COL
1.01 Perm Dude Bo Bichette SS TOR
1.09 Perm Dude Francisco Mejia C CLE
K Perm Dude Victor Robles OF WAS
K Perm Dude Bradley Zimmer OF CLE
K Perm Dude David Dahl OF COL
1.03 Taxman Kyle Tucker OF HOU
2.03 Taxman Austin Hays OF BAL
3.02 Taxman Alex Verdugo OF LAD
4.01 Taxman Peter Alonso 1B NYM
K Taxman Ronald Acuna OF ATL
1.08 Tree Scott Kingery 2B PHI
2.08 Tree Leody Taveras OF TEX
3.05 Tree Luis Urias 2B/SS SD
4.02 Tree Sixto Sanchez SP PHI
5.01 Tree Willy Adames SS TB
1.13 WG Luis Castillo SP CIN
2.13 WG Walker Buehler RHP LAD
3.08 WG Jo Adell OF LAA
4.03 WG A.J. Minter RP ATL
K WG Michael Kopech RHP CHW
2Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 12:49
There are currently no 2019 or later draft pick trades outstanding.
4Meatwads
      ID: 221352816
      Sat, Mar 31, 2018, 06:30
Bean - Can you please remove Rafael Devers from Fightin' Amish? (He is my prospect). I noticed when I went to pick him up that he had been added yesterday morning and is currently sitting in his utility spot on today's roster. Thanks for your help.

I know people make mistakes, but everyone please make a conscience effort to pay attention to the players who have a keeper symbol [K] on Yahoo. It's not fair to the managers who have to miss upwards of 4-5 days of stats waiting for their player to clear waivers. I take it as a compliment that you guys like my prospects enough to roster them, but it throws a monkey-wrench into my daily lineup strategy every time it occurs.
5Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Mar 31, 2018, 10:52
<4> Removed him from PD's roster. Did you want me to add him to yours? Who will you drop?
6Perm Dude
      ID: 4724156
      Sat, Mar 31, 2018, 11:59
Was going to post the prospect list to Yahoo but I think only the commish can pin a post.
7Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Mar 31, 2018, 12:22
If you look under commish notes you will see prospect list and constitution.
8Nerveclinic
      ID: 53715255
      Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 10:34

Thanks Bean looks great!

9 barilko6
      ID: 213462411
      Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 12:46
If anyone has an extra SS, I would be interested.
10 Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 19:20
I have three good 2Bs if anyone has an interest. Cano, Albies and Moncada all keeper worthy at this point. Two are my DHs right now, so they aren't going to waste completely.
12Biliruben
      ID: 1210218
      Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 10:12
How many prospects are we allowed to carry on our roster¿
13barilko6
      ID: 213462411
      Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 10:57
If I recall, I think it was unlimited until the time to declare?
14Biliruben
      ID: 252311112
      Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 11:58
Cool. And will we be declaring 3 or 5?
15barilko6
      ID: 213462411
      Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 18:37
I think 5...but someone will have to confirm exactness....haha
16Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Apr 26, 2018, 09:21
We voted for 8 prospects next year, 5 of which may be kept. So, for next year, if you have more than 5, you will keep the extras on your regular roster or drop them.
17Biliruben
      ID: 1210218
      Sun, Apr 29, 2018, 08:55
So Monty claims on Yahoo I can't go over 5. But I thought it was a free for all in-season, and you just had to sort it out by the time you need to declare. As many promotions demotions and trades as you want, but with an eye towards only 3, now 5, prospects declared next spring.
18Biliruben
      ID: 1210218
      Sun, Apr 29, 2018, 08:58
My original question was just whether we were going to start the new rule when we declare (3 keepers or 5) or when we start the draft.

Intuitely I would have thought 3m but everyone seems to think 5.
19Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sun, Apr 29, 2018, 11:04
You guys trying to make me work? Shit I am not supposed to have to do anything during the season but brow beat someone who dint see the "K".

We can vote on these if someone feels it's necessary, but right now, its just hypothetical. I prefer to go with 5 keepers at the start of next season, and a free for all during the season.

Monty do you have an example for how we handled max number of prospects in the past that would support your claim that it isn't just a free for all during the season as Bili says? Just cite the thread and comment number. Its not spelled out in the constitution.

Is there some reason to think that we wouldn't be able to keep 5 prospects before the draft next season? Or is this just a re-negotiation attempt?

21Biliruben
      ID: 13282122
      Tue, May 01, 2018, 18:46
Nope. Prefer 5.

It just seems like it would have fallen under the "draft 5, keep 3" rubric. Draft 5, keep 5 is certainly fine with me.
22Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, May 02, 2018, 09:30
It is keep five, draft three (or more).
24Nerveclinic
      ID: 53715255
      Thu, May 03, 2018, 07:11
Bili you are talking in season. You draft 5 and during the season you keep those 5 until next spring. That's what I was talking about. I am getting a bit confused at the moment.

Then we voted that next year we pick 8 and before the next spring draft keep 5.

Bean I'm not concerned enough about it to try and dig up old threads.

Maybe its is good to let a team trade for prospects and build a catalogue as a way to rebuild.

I was just stating what I thought had been the rules but I wouldn't swear to it and I wouldn't care either way. I am all for finding ways for teams to rebuild to make things more competitive for them. I wouldn't be opposed to new rules that facilitated that, example, you can only have a player 3 or 4 years, and then he goes back into the pot.

25Biliruben
      ID: 13282122
      Sat, May 12, 2018, 11:28
I guess I need to know whether I can have more than 5 prospects in-season. I thought yes, but nerve doesn't seem to think so.

I had thought, for ease of accounting, we had said it's a free-for-all, with prospects going up and down, changing status, trading. Whatever. You just had to declare your max 3 (now 5) in the spring.



26Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, May 12, 2018, 15:33
Barring objection the only time you need to be at 5 or below prospects is before the prospect draft, so essentially when you declare your prospect keepers each season. There are no restrictions otherwise so feel free to trade for as many prospects as you like. Just be prepared to whittle them down to five next season before the draft.
27Nerveclinic
      ID: 53715255
      Tue, Jun 26, 2018, 18:09

The trade Billi and I made also includes me giving him prospect Nick Senzel.

28Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 10:57
So, the trade is Kenley Jensen for Germain and Senzel. Need Billi to confirm.
29Nerveclinic
      ID: 53715255
      Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 14:33
I'll tell him to high tail it on over here...
30Biliruben
      ID: 252311112
      Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 14:48
I'm Bili Ruben and I approve this message.

(Please read my updated trading and privacy policy. Roto Markets are volatile, and due diligence is the duty of the investor )
31Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 02:19
The story of A.J. Minter. It was a good pick up by Meatwads, a great claim off waivers by Bean, but an even better prospect pick by WG!
32Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 08:35
Thanks I missed that. Dropped him, he never played.

It was the way i picked him up (using availability vs using players tab) that caused me to miss his keeper status. I generally pay attention to the K when going to Players tab, cause there are a bunch of those guys always at the top. I'll try to be more attentive in the future when getting players that way.
33Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 16:32
No worries. It's probably something we'll have to deal with every year. I made the mistake because I was using the app for the first time this year and don't see the K anywhere.
34Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 17:38
Reminder, this league's trade deadline this year is:

August 26, 2018
35WG
      ID: 53213822
      Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 23:23
TRADE

WG gets
Sal Perez
Matt Carpenter
Matt Chapman

Tree gets
Michael Kopech (p)
Gary Sanchez
Yairo Munoz
Mitch Garver
36Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 08:34
confirmed
37WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 12:17
Castillo is my keeper
38Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sun, Aug 05, 2018, 09:27
<37> Fixed; sorry for the delay.
39Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Sun, Aug 05, 2018, 10:35
MY BAD

Sorry for my mindless/unintentional poaching .. you can see how much he has helped my team
40C1-NRB
      ID: 92521217
      Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 00:24
artofmonk- I'm not sure how long you've had him, but Sean Newcomb is still my prospect 'til the end of the year.
41Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 02:05
I've removed Newcomb from Art's team. He has been on art's roster since 15 JUL. I do not believe that Newcomb's starts will significantly affect the outcome of the league, though he did do pretty well for art. Therefore, I dont plan to do anything about it with regards to accumulated stats at this time.

At season's end, I am willing to remove stats from Art's totals and recalculate rotisserie points manually, only if someone believes it would have resulted in a different champion. I am not going to go through this effort for no good reason.
42Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 02:05
I've removed Newcomb from Art's team. He has been on art's roster since 15 JUL. I do not believe that Newcomb's starts will significantly affect the outcome of the league, though he did do pretty well for art. Therefore, I dont plan to do anything about it with regards to accumulated stats at this time.

At season's end, I am willing to remove stats from Art's totals and recalculate rotisserie points manually, only if someone believes it would have resulted in a different champion. I am not going to go through this effort for no good reason.
43Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:11
While it may not affect the championship, it can affect draft positions.
45Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 21:31
<43> Agreed, but is it really that big a deal? You would also have to consider the affect of the pitcher he would have used instead of Newcomb and its affect on the standings. This opens a can of worms that I simply don't want to address. If someone wants to make this their crusade, have at it.

Thought you said this was your last season, Tree. You planning to come back next season now?
46C1-NRB
      ID: 36852715
      Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 16:05
Mise en place for Hot Stove:

Trevor Story
47WG
      ID: 53213822
      Tue, Oct 02, 2018, 21:32
Congrats Meatwads and Nerveclinic! Great season and hell of a finish, and you both truly earned and deserved the win. Unhappy I couldn't pull it out but still happy I was able to finish strong and it was definitely exciting being in such a tight race til the very end. You both managed great all year and I think you each had a more solid, balanced team than I did as evidenced by the fact that you both finished with at least 8 points in each category, while I had less than 9 in 4 categories. Easy to look back now and say I should have traded strength (pitching) for weakness (hitting) earlier, but also wasn't helped by the fact that all my keeper hitters (Altuve, Bryant, Judge, Correa, Sanchez) hit the DL for substantial amounts of time (and all 5 were on the DL at the same time at the end of July!). Certainly no excuses though; you guys had the better teams. Congrats again to both of you!

48Meatwads
      ID: 7527232
      Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 14:50
Thanks WG! You were leading the pack most of the season, so I just tried to stay within striking distance. I didn't know all your keepers were on the DL at one point! That's actually pretty ridiculous.

A pretty epic race overall looking back at it. Nerveclinic coming back from the brink to tie on the last day against the guy who was in 2nd most of the year, with the original leader dropping to 3rd. It was a three team battle most of the season, and any of us could've won. It was fun battling with you guys again. Looking forward to next year with the new categories and expanded prospect draft. It'll be a lot of fun. Peace
49Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 01:43
Time to figure out who is returning and who is leaving.

Please sound off here with your plan for Political Baseball League 2019. We'll need to start a little earlier than usual due to some early season games in Japan (20 MAR?).

I am interested in finding someone to volunteer to take over commish duties as well, any volunteers?
50C1-NRB
      ID: 33002310
      Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 11:00
In.
51Bobo
      ID: 230312410
      Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 11:31
In.
52 GoatLocker
      ID: 520342617
      Sat, Jan 26, 2019, 18:44
I'm in, but draft could be challenging depending on when it starts.
From 22 Feb to 3 March, I'm not sure what my wifi access is going to be like.

GL
53nerveclinic
      ID: 358553019
      Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 13:30

In
54WG
      ID: 53213822
      Fri, Feb 01, 2019, 15:11
In
55Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 23:24
In.
56Nerveclinic
      ID: 301441120
      Sun, Feb 03, 2019, 11:12
Tree mentioned last year he was not coming back. We should probably look for a replacement?
57Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Feb 04, 2019, 11:53
Anybody have a friend who is interested before I open to Rotoguru?
58Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Mon, Feb 04, 2019, 15:37
yea, i think so.

presuming i didn't dream it and we actually switched to some random form of measurement instead of wins that's way more difficult to research, something that was hot in about 2015 and now most people realize is silly, especially because it weakens relievers and late-season call ups even more.

if i did imagine we're going to QS, i'm still in, but if this league is actually going through it, let me know if a team opens up down the road when y'all realize it's a disaster and go back to wins.
59 biliruben
      ID: 255502715
      Mon, Feb 04, 2019, 15:37
In
60biliruben
      ID: 255502715
      Mon, Feb 04, 2019, 15:52
Yeah, remind me what crazy rules we have now? Don't we have like 62 prospects or something now? Can't remember.
61nerveclinic
      ID: 358553019
      Tue, Feb 05, 2019, 10:47

8 Prospects

QS instead of wins

OBP instead of average?

Is that all that was voted on?

62 GoatLocker
      Dude
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Feb 06, 2019, 16:42
Guess I need to start working on this one too with all the changes.

GL
63Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 12:27
Still waiting to hear from:
Dhamm
barilko
taxman
artofmonk
Perm Dude

Will post a request for replacement owner for Tree
64taxman
      ID: 157101611
      Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 12:54
in

.. but have medical problems starting Feb 26th and lasting for unknown amount of time. If you need to replace me do so, but I will want back in next opening.
65artofmonk
      ID: 21511113
      Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 14:51
I am in.
66barilko6
      ID: 541531115
      Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 16:53
Hey guys...

Sorry but I've picked up some new clients and still have full time school, so I have to regretfully bow out. Best of luck!
67 Dhamm
      ID: 2815126
      Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 07:05
I'm in.
68Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 12:28
<58> Based on how so few starters are getting to the 6th inning now, I fear you may be right Tree.
69Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 19:31
SPBC is a thing.
70Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 11:22
Only Perm Dude has not checked in now. I have three prospective owners inquiring, if two decide to join us, I will award them teams on Monday. So, PD has until then to check in here. Once the teams are awarded I will post a schedule.
71Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 11:24
<61>From the rules in Post #1:

Approved rule changes for 2019 Season:
1) Change pitcher category Wins to Quality Starts
2) Change batter category Batting Average to On Base Percentage
3) Change prospects from 3 keepers/5 total to 5 keepers/8 total
72Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 12:39
Take a look at my roster, I have twelve guys who are top 100 in either current or pre-season rating. Much more than I can keep. If interested in them, I am looking for pick upgrades or two or more of mine for one of yours type upgrades. No reasonable offer will be ignored.
73Perm Dude
      ID: 71521413
      Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 14:52
Sure, count me in.

Apologies for the delay--had to go to Cleveland for a funeral.
74Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 16:44
All good PD, glad to have you back. Sorry for your loss.

One of my prospective owners was a previous owner of your team for two years. Joe played as Black Death in 2014-15.

I've asked the three guys to put together a brief summary of their experience for you guys to look over and comment on (you can send me your thoughts privately if you like). I told them we would award them Tree's team by Monday, so this is pretty short fused.

I play with all three in Nerfherder's TPKL-10. So, Nerveclinic and artofmonk know them (Joe, Phil and Joe Beeler). I dont think they play in any other rotoguru born leagues. In any case, I have no issue with any of them.
75 Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Feb 16, 2019, 01:16
We have two prospective owners, Joe and Phil.
Joe Beeler's interest seems to have waned. I gave them little guidance to provide you all a resume, so if they seem lacking, blame me.

Anyway here is what they gave me:

JOE
1. Have played fantasy baseball since 1993, largely in one league but also TPKL experience (2 years, rebuilding an inherited team) plus 2 prior years in the MBS league
2. 1 championship in long-running league but only one bottom half finish in that league in the last 8 years and only about 6 total
3. Have radically overhauled TPKL team into potential contender in 2019 or 2020
4. Very active trader and in free agency
5. Promptly responsive to emails and trade inquiries
6. Fair trader who does not look to screw over the other team
7. Ready for another challenge in this particular league
As a P.S., I have 6 2nd place and 2 3rd place finishes in my long-term fantasy baseball league.

Bean's comment: Joe volunteered to take over a weak team here when I was pressed to find a replacement owner. He has always been dependable and gives his team the attention it deserves.


PHIL
I have been playing fantasy baseball for a long time and big time competitor. Honestly, never played in Roto Gurers.
I have played in Head to Head leagues, point style leagues, and others.
I would bring another experience player to the league.
I really enjoy playing fantasy baseball.

Bean's comment: Phil is perhaps the most active trader I have ever seen. No really.


SO, I have until Monday to award the team to give us all ample time to get ready for this sesason. If you have a preference between these two more than capable managers, you can send me an e-mail. You can just send me your "vote" or give me your thoughts if you care. If I don't hear from you, I will assume your indifference. My e-mail is provided with the usual Blue link, or beancline@comcast.net
76Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Feb 16, 2019, 11:13
Any proposed rule changes for the 2020 season?
77nerveclinic
      ID: 21927422
      Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 13:49

If this is the same Phil all I can say is, if we bring him in, look out everybody, this guy is a f*cking beast. He came into our contract keeper league and won two years in a row. And he is like a magician, I've never seen anything like it, no idea how he does it. I would love to see him join. Oh and you have never met anyone in fantasy as active as this guy when it comes to trading. I think it would be a real shot in the arm to the league...

78Meatwads
      ID: 58014310
      Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 15:30
I’m fine with bringing either manager into the league. I will say, the idea of the most active trader Bean has ever seen does sound intriguing. We could definitely use a shot in the arm on that front.

Speaking of trading, I’m looking to pair Gleyber Torres with one of my third basemen (Donaldson, Rendon, Devers) for an elite 2B or SS. Email me if that’s something you’d like to discuss. I could also potentially trade one of my aces (Sale, Snell, Severino) if it makes sense.
79GoatLocker
      Dude
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 17:57
Ditto on either manager.
Flipping a coin works for me.

GL
80nerveclinic
      ID: 21927422
      Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 20:49

Meatwads: "I will say, the idea of the most active trader Bean has ever seen does sound intriguing."

Let me put it into perspective. After his first year in the league, 2 years ago, the commish put in a new rule, max 30 trades a year, specifically because of him. He hit 30 trades around half way through the season. ;)

81 Phil Turner
      ID: 251531817
      Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 18:53
League:

Just want to say thank you for the invite. I am ready to talk trade. Send me an email. I have 6 keepers already identified for my team.

I would be interested in Torres, Meatwads.
82Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 19:11
I've notified Phil and Joe that Phil will be offered Tree's team. I told Joe he will be first in line if we have a slot next year.

Now for the schedule. Two things are driving an earlier start than previous years. First the MLB has games scheduled in Japan on 20 MAR, though most teams wont start til 29 MAR. Second, we will have eight prospects vs the previous five, making the prospect draft about twice as long.

I think we may be at risk of not finishing in time, if we don't start earlier. If we don't finish on time, you can just start the players you have on your roster at the time. I will do my best to ensure all drafted players have been given to you at the time. Most likely you will have all but a few bench warmers at the most missing.

Anyway, here is the proposed schedule:

03 MAR ALL KEEPERS DUE
04 MAR BEGIN Prospect Draft (in Rotoguru thread)
07 MAR TARGET END Prospect Draft
08 MAR TARGET BEGIN MLB Draft (Draftime)
18 MAR TARGET END MLB Draft
20 MAR Start of Season

Comments?
83Nerveclinic
      ID: 301441120
      Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 08:41

Looks great Bean and thanks for your efforts.

Phil welcome aboard. And you get 7 keepers not 6.
84 Phil Turner
      ID: 251531817
      Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 19:42
Trade Chatter:

Anyone ready to talk trade? Sanchez and or Taillon might be available.

Send me an email.
85biliruben
      ID: 255502715
      Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 20:25
All your players are crap.

I'll take that Trout guy off your hands though, assuming you aren't going to keep him. I got a few really good middle relievers.
86 GoatLocker
      Dude
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 20:38
Should work fine for me.
Back home on the 2nd.

GL
87 WG
      ID: 53213822
      Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 05:07
Welcome Phil, and good luck!

I've got a few players that may be worthy of keeping:

Jose Altuve, Carlos Correa, Kris Bryant, Aaron Judge, Matt Carpenter, Eugenio Suarez, Matt Chapman
Max Scherzer, Corey Kluber, Walker Buehler, Jack Flaherty, Zach Wheeler, Blake Treinen, Luis Castillo (prospect who exceeded limits off my roster, so not sure)

Will likely keep the obvious names, but open to talks and moving guys for picks, prospects, or in 2 for 1s.

Let me know if any interest, thanks.
88 Phil Turner
      ID: 251531817
      Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 05:26
WG:

I would have interest in a couple of your players. Send me an email

Teo3402@yahoo.com
89Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 10:47
Were these the only two prospect trades last year?

28 Nerve sends Nick senzel to biliruben
35 WG sends Kopech to Phil
90Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 12:01
Were there any pick trades? Reviewing the thread I didn't see any.
91Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 12:10
A reminder about Otani:

From <36> of last year's Pre-season thread:

Since Otani is a prospect this year, and prospects may be called up and sent down as often as you like, I see no reason to not allow you to stream Otani the pitcher and Otani the hitter to the extent that Yahoo will allow you.

The real issue for Otani, for this league, comes next year when he is no longer a prospect. If Yahoo is still unable to give you him as one player, you'll have to roster him using two slots. I suppose we can count him as just one keeper from that point on, unless you drop one of his two instances from your roster.

If, for example, you drop the hitter but not the pitcher, you no longer have the rights to the hitter coupled with the pitcher. Even if you subsequently reacquire the hitter, he will be considered a separate player for the purposes of keepers and roster slots.

Only complexity I can forsee is that if you dropped the hitter, someone else picks him up, then Yahoo changes so hitter and pitcher are now coupled. Who has the rights? Simple solution, who ever had their player the longest gets rights to both. That should cover any trade scenarios.
92Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 13:21
BTW Ohtani had 326 AB and 51.2 IP last season and is no longer a prospect.
93Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 13:33
These prospect from 2018 are no longer prospect eligible in 2019:

Art of Monk  Lucas Giolito RHP PIT 173.1 IP
Barilko Matt Olson 1B OF OAK 580 AB
Barilko  Shohei Ohtani SP/OF LAA 326 AB
Bean Jake Faria SP TB 151.2 IP
Bean Jose Martinez 1B/OF STL 534 AB
Bean  Yoan Moncada 2B 3B CHW 578 AB
Bean  Ozzie Albies 2B SS ATL 639 AB
Biliruben Juan Soto OF WAS 414 AB
C1-NRB Sean Newcomb LHP ATL 164 IP
David Reynaldo Lopez RHP CHW 188.2 IP
David Lewis Brinson OF MIL 382 AB
David Miguel Andujar 3B NYY 573 AB
Goatlocker Amed Rosario SS NYM 554 AB
Meatwads Gleyber Torres SS NYY 431 AB
Meatwads Rafael Devers 3B BOS 450 AB
Nerveclinic Luke Weaver RHP STL 136.1 IP
Nerveclinic Teoscar Hernandez OF HOU 476 AB
Perm Dude Bradley Zimmer OF CLE 405 AB
Perm Dude David Dahl OF COL 471 AB
Phil Scott Kingery 2B PHI 452 AB
Taxman Ronald Acuna OF ATL 433 AB
WG Walker Buehler RHP LAD 137.1 IP
WG Luis Castillo SP CIN 169.2 IP

If you would like to dispute my research let me know.
94biliruben
      ID: 255502715
      Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 16:18
Hypothetical: If Mondesi, who I appear to have promoted last spring at <300ABs, had broken his leg April 5th, could I have declared him as a prospect this spring?
95biliruben
      ID: 255502715
      Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 18:41
Proposed rule: In order for a new rule or rule change to pass, we need half the league (not half the voters) to vote yes. The manager who proposes the rule should make a reasonable effort to publicize that there is a vote going on.

This is more of a no-brainer, and how we had always played until last year. But apparently it needs to be reiterated and formalized.

I'll post on Yahoo.
96 Biliruben
      ID: 22142137
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 04:26
Trade announcement

Bili trades prospect Eloy Jimenez to WG
for Walker Buehler and WGs 4th round pick.
97 Phil Turner
      ID: 251531817
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 07:47
Good morning.

The Sycamores are open for trade either doing a prospect trade or from my keepers.

Send me an email: teo3402@yahoo.com.

Also, good trade Bill and Amit.
98WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 08:15
Confirmed
99biliruben
      ID: 255502715
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 09:36
Thanks Phil. And welcome! You are walking into a pretty good squad.

Hopefully they both stay healthy and see which of us got the better of the other. It's hard to figure sometimes with youngsters who have little or no time in the bigs.

I'm a Dodger fan who was simply amazed at Behler's poise down the stretch and in the playoffs. Something Kershaw never really has had. I'm reading he's over-hyped, but we will see.

Tree and I often had similar styles of players we liked, which sometimes made trading hard. Had the same pieces, but will take a look.
100Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 12:19
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Phil and I have made a trade.

Phil sends prospect Michael Kopech
Bean sends Scooter Gennett
101 Phil Turner
      ID: 251531817
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 12:24
Confirmed.
102Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 12:29
<95> The rule as interpreted is if they were drafted as a prospect and that they were never released or promoted to regular keeper since being drafted, then they can remain a prospect until they exceed the thresholds (<300AB, <125IP).

I think that wording covers all scenarios even if it's a lengthy description.

Was your question answered?
103WG
      ID: 53213822
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 13:09
Sorry, still unsure. Luis Castillo was my prospect but he exceeded limits and was not on my roster when the season ended. Do I still have his rights as a potential 7 keeper?
104Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 14:41
<103> Yes, you still have rights this year.
105Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 15:15
<96> Just to be clear, It's WG's Regular draft 4th round, or is it his prospect 4th pick?

If it's regular (and is the 2019 pick not some later year), I assume WG gets your last pick to fill out his roster.
106Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 16:00
I have started a pre-season thread. Lets move all communication there now including any pending unanswered questions.
107biliruben
      ID: 151121112
      Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 16:25
Regular 2019. Yes, WG getting my last makes sense.
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