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0 Subject: 2021 Political Baseball League - Pre-Season

Posted by: Bean - [304422310] Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 14:17

The Poli Baseball League Constitution

Rule Changes

In order for a new rule or rule change to pass, we need a majority the league (not voters) to vote yes. This is currently 8 of 14. The manager who proposes the rule should make a reasonable effort to publicize that there is a vote going on. If a majority do not vote for the proposal within a week, the proposal fails.

Yahoo Baseball
7 keepers; No more than 5 prospect keepers
Next Day Transactions - Daily/Tomorrow
Waivers - Continual Rolling List - 1 day waiver period
Trade Deadline - Closest Sunday to August 31st
Trade Review - League Votes
Supplemental draft picks may be traded

Scoring Settings
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util
SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL, DL
Max IP - 1400
Batters Categories: Runs (R), Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases
(SB), On Base Percentage (OBP)
Pitchers Categories: Quality Starts (QS), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average
(ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)

MLB Supplemental Draft
Draft Utility - Draftime
Player must be in the Yahoo database at the time he is picked in the
supplemental draft.
No time limit initially, unless deemed necessary
Straight Draft, Reverse order of standings

Prospect Draft & Rules
Straight Draft, Reverse order of standings
To be conducted BEFORE the Supplemental Draft
Under 300 AB's or 125 IP to be draft eligible
Any player at any level (as long as they are under limits) can be drafted as prospect. College, International, Little League etc.
You can retain up to 5 prospect eligible players from one season to next
There are 8 rounds in the prospect draft - minus a pick for each prospect you carry over.
ALL teams are entitled to EXACTLY 8 prospects by the end of the prospect draft. NO TEAM will be allowed to have any number other than eight prospects at the end of the prospect draft.
Prospects may be called up in-season and can be sent back and forth to prospect list until the end of the season in which they exceeded the stated prospect limits. As with our new rule, managers can keep prospects for the entire season in which they exceed their stated prospect level limits. So, if your prospect hits the limit in May, you may still hold his rights as a prospect until the beginning of the following season. Prospects may be called up or sent down anytime in-season or off-season prior to keeper declaration. If called up and made an MLB keeper, prospects will lose their prospect status.

Prospect rights may be traded.
Prospect picks may be traded as long as receiving team has enough spots to make the draft pick at time of draft.
You can trade for as many prospects as you like - however you'll need to have 5 or less at the time of the Prospect Draft

Poli League Trophy Case
2001 Toral
2003 Baldwin
2004 Skanks 4 Bush
2005 Baldwin
2006 1625 K St Allstars
2007 Biliruben
2008 Biliruben
2009 Tree
2010 Biliruben
2011 Nerveclinic
2012 GO
2013 WG
2014 GO
2015 WG
2016 Nerveclinic
2017 Meatwads
2018 Meatwads/Nerveclinic
2019 WG
2020 Nerveclinic
1Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 14:18
This is the list of prospect-eligible players currently rostered. Let me know if you see an error:

Art of Monk Julio Rodriguez OF SEA 0 AB
Art of Monk Corbin Carroll OF ARI 0 AB
Art of Monk Evan White 1B SEA 182 AB
Art of Monk Alex Thomas OF ARZ 0 AB
Art of Monk George Valera OF CLE 0 AB
Art of Monk James Karinchak RP CLE 32.1 IP
Art of Monk Abraham Toro 3B HOU 165 AB
Art of Monk Christian Pache OF ATL 4 AB
Bean Will Smith C LAD 284 AB
Bean Sam Hilliard RF COL 182 AB
Bean Emerson Hancock RHP Georgia 0 IP
Bean Jordan Yamamoto SP MIA 90 IP
Bean Bobby Witt SS KC 0 AB
Bean Diego Cartaya C LAD 0 AB
Bean Michael Kopech RHP CHW 14.1 IP
Biliruben Dylan Carlson OF STL 110 AB
Biliruben Noelvi Marte SS SEA 0 AB
Biliruben Luis Rodriguez OF LAD 0 AB
Biliruben Hedbert Perez OF MIL 0 AB
Biliruben Wander Franco SS TB 0 AB
Biliruben Gavin Lux SS/2B LAD 138 AB
Biliruben Royce Lewis SS MIN 0 AB
Bobo Dustin May RHP LAD 90.2 IP
Bobo Riley Greene OF DET 0 AB
Bobo Daulton Varsho C ARI 101 AB
Bobo Isaac Paredes SS DET 100 AB
Bobo Alex Kirilloff OF MIN 4 AB
Bobo Yusniel Diaz OF BAL 0 AB
Bobo Hunter Greene RHP CIN 0 IP
Bobo Franklin Perez RHP DET 0 IP
C1-NRB Jasson Dominguez OF NYY 0 AB
C1-NRB Jeter Downs SS/2B BOS 0 AB
C1-NRB Bryson Stott SS PHI 0 AB
C1-NRB Sam Huff C TEX 31 AB
C1-NRB Luis Robert OF CHW 202 AB
C1-NRB Jackson Rutledge SP WAS 0 IP
C1-NRB Andrew Daschbach 1B Stanford 0 AB
C1-NRB John Rhodes INF Kentucky 0 AB
David Ian Anderson RHP ATL 32.1 IP
David Luis Garcia INF WAS 134 AB
David Ryan Mountcastle 3B BAL 126 AB
David Sean Murphy C OAK 169 AB
David Brendan McKay 1B TB 49 IP 10 AB
David Forrest Whitley RHP HOU 0 IP
David Jarred Kelenic OF SEA 0 AB
David Jesus Luzardo LHP OAK 71 IP
Goatlocker Sixto Sanchez SP PHI 39 IP
Goatlocker Luis Campusano C SD 3 AB
Goatlocker Jordan Groshans SS TOR 0 AB
Goatlocker Brent Honeywell RHP TB 0 IP
Goatlocker Carter Kieboom SS WAS 138 AB
Goatlocker Ke'Bryan Hayes 3B PIT 85 AB
Goatlocker Mackenzie Gore LHP SD 0 IP
Goatlocker Mitch Keller RHP PIT 69.2 IP
Joe CJ Abrams SS SD 0 AB
Joe Nick Anderson RP TB 81.1 IP
Joe Tarik Skubal LHP DET 32 IP
Joe Austin Hendrick OF CIN 0 AB
Joe Casey Mize RHP DET 28.1 IP
Joe Luis Patino RHP SD 17.1 IP
Joe Nate Pearson RHP TOR 18 IP
Joe Vidal Brujan 2B/SS TB 0 AB
Meatwads Matt Manning RHP DET 0 IP
Meatwads Jose Urquidy SP HOU 70.2 IP
Meatwads Ronny Marucio SS NYM 0 AB
Meatwads Giovanny Gallegos RP STL 120.2 IP
Meatwads Nate Lowe 1B TB 219 AB
Meatwads Xavier Edwards SS SD 0 AB
Meatwads Marco Luciano SS SF 0 AB
Meatwads Taylor Trammell OF SD 0 AB
Nerveclinic Drew Waters OF ATL 0 AB
Nerveclinic A. J. Puk LHP OAK 11.1 IP
Nerveclinic Oneil Cruz SS PIT 0 AB
Nerveclinic Brendan Rodgers SS 2B COL 97 AB
Nerveclinic Franchy Cordero OF SD 284 AB
Nerveclinic Josh James SP HOU 101.2 IP
Nerveclinic Kyle Wright RHP ATL 63.2 IP
Nerveclinic Trevor Larnach OF MIN 0 AB
PermDude Grayson Rodriguez RHP BAL 0 AB
PermDude JJ Bleday OF MIA 0 AB
PermDude Brailyn Marquez LHP CHC 0.2 IP
PermDude Heliot Ramos OF SF 0 AB
PermDude Adrian Morejon SP SD 27.1 IP
PermDude Joey Bart C SF 103 AB
PermDude Nick Madrigal 2B CWS 103 AB
PermDude Nolan Jones 3B CLE 0 AB
Phil Logan Gilbert RHP SEA 0 IP
Phil Spencer Torkelson 1B DET 0 AB
Phil Shogo Akiyama OF CIN 155 AB
Phil Nick Gonzales 2B PIT 0 AB
Phil Nolan Gorrman 3B STL 0 AB
Phil Nico Hoerner SS/2B/OF CHC 186 AB
Phil Miguel Amaya C CHC 0 AB
Phil Jorge Mateo SS 2B SD 26 AB
Taxman Hunter Harvey RP BAL 15 IP
Taxman Josh Jung 3B TEX 0 AB
Taxman Austin Martin SS TOR 0 AB
Taxman Alec Bohm 3B PHI 160 AB
Taxman Austin Hayes OF BAL 250 AB
Taxman Kristian Robinson OF ARI 0 AB
WG Spencer Howard RHP PHI 24 IP
WG Jazz Chisholm SS ARI 56 AB
WG Triston Casas 1B BOS 0 AB
WG Brennan Davis OF CHC 0 AB
WG Adley Rutschman C BAL 0 AB
WG Andrew Vaughn 1B Cal 0 AB
WG Jo Adell OF LAA 124 AB

2Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 14:19
This is last years final standings:
1 Nerve Clinic
2 WG
3 Mighty Meatwads
4 Bean's Senators
5 bili-cruisin'
6 GoatLockers Goons
7 Mudville 9
8 Black Death Returns
9 The Sycamores
10 artofmonk
11 Tax Rules
12 Fightin' Amish
13 Beer City Bobo
14 DustStorm Troopers

Draft Order Is reverse of finish.
3Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 14:20
Only found one trade involving 2021 picks:

<141> Phil sends his 2021 prospect 2nd pick
bili sends his 2021 prospect last pick
4Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 14:25
This is our current schedule for the pre-season:

08 FEB BEGIN Roll Call
01 MAR CONFIRM 2021 Participants
15 MAR ALL KEEPERS DUE
16 MAR BEGIN Prospect Draft (in Rotoguru thread)
19 MAR TARGET END Prospect Draft
20 MAR TARGET BEGIN MLB Draft (Draftime)
30 MAR TARGET END MLB Draft
01 APR Start of Season
- I’ve renewed the Yahoo League, check to make sure you have it on your league list at Yahoo
- There is no need to mark your keepers in Yahoo.
- I’ll be starting a Keeper Thread once roll call is done
- I’ll start a Prospect Draft Thread once I have everyone’s keepers.
- I will renew the league at Draft Time when baseball is available
5Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 14:26
OK it's time for a roll call. Let me know if you plan to return this year.

I am in.
6WG
      ID: 89402220
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 14:29
In
7 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 14:36
I'm back
8 Mudville 9
      ID: 22138813
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 14:38
I am in
9Perm Dude
      ID: 3310302519
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 14:44
In
10 biliruben
      ID: 23154813
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 14:54
in
12C1-NRB
      ID: 22129815
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 16:29
To-be-renamed DustStorm Troopers:
In
13 GoatLocker
      ID: 1611722
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 16:36
I’m in.
14Nerveclinic
      ID: 190422719
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 21:22

In
15Bobo
      ID: 27139820
      Mon, Feb 08, 2021, 21:39
I'm in and also to be renamed squad.
16 taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Tue, Feb 09, 2021, 10:50
In
17Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Feb 09, 2021, 13:32
Still waiting to hear from:

3 Mighty Meatwads
9 The Sycamores
10 artofmonk
18artofmonk
      ID: 4119915
      Tue, Feb 09, 2021, 16:09
in
19Meatwads
      ID: 5114917
      Tue, Feb 09, 2021, 18:04
In.
20 Phil Turner
      ID: 251531817
      Tue, Feb 09, 2021, 19:24
In.
21 Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Feb 09, 2021, 19:37
Wow, epic stability. Everyone is back two years in a row.

Thanks for the quick response everyone.

If any of you are looking for another keeper league, take a look at 8 Men Out, we're looking for three replacement managers. I took over commish duties for Khahan this year. Here's a link to the organizing forum. First post is the constitution.

8 Men Out

Send me an e-mail if interested.
22Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 17:49
As promised, I will once again advocate for some kind of minimum IP/GP rule this year. I think you've heard most of the arguments already.

Anyone wanna second the motion for a vote?
23 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 19:19
I'll second the motion to at least have a vote on such minimums. What is the official number proposal?
24Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 00:00
I believe that we need to first have a vote to have or not have GP/IP minimums. If we dont have eight owners who want it, then seems to me its kinda silly to split hairs over how many games we would use, when we dont even have agreement over the need.

There was quite a bit of discussion last season about this, in the end we did not implement minimums, despite the data from 2019 that was presented. That was due mostly to only half the owners weighing in on it, and eventually to the whole issue being upstaged by COVID. The 2020 season was an anomaly in so many ways, so its easy to dismiss anything that happened during that season.

In the next couple days I will repost a summary from last year's comments. I'll re-light the fire then. ultimately leading to a vote.
25Perm Dude
      ID: 3310302519
      Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 06:25
I'll vote no on minimums. I think it is solving a problem which doesn't exist, and also COVID is going to mean a lot fewer games.

Perhaps it won't be as bad as the NHL is seeing, but COVID will linger far into the baseball season under the best case scenario and it seems unwise to require it.
26Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 10:21
I renewed the Draft at Draft Time, take a minute to make sure you can still log into your account and see this league as an active draft.

I can help you with your log on, but not your password.
27Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 12:21
I have two simple requests that I hope you all can help me with.

1) Go to DraftTime and log on.
2) At the top you'll see a link to "Edit Account", click that
3) Click "Edit Real Name"
4) Make your "Real Name" your Rotoguru Handle (eg. Bean)

This will help significantly in putting your players in the correct team FOR ALL LEAGUES you use Draft Time for.

Another thing that would help, is if you must change your team name from year to year in Yahoo, put your rotoguru handle in your team name (eg. Bean's Senators).

The reason for these requests are obvious to anyone who has commished using Draft Time before. Please make my life and that of your other commissioners easier.

Thanks
28 taxman
      ID: 2916520
      Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 20:29
re 27 great post Bean
29Nerveclinic
      ID: 190422719
      Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 12:52

I'm fine with no minimum on IP. I can see how it could be a problem as Perm mentioned if the season winds up shortened.

Thanks for your efforts Bean, I am in draftime with the name Nerveclinic.
30artofmonk
      ID: 56161817
      Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 18:06
Hey All,

I am looking to possibly trade Austin Meadows and/or Dinelson Lamet. I would rather trade a 2-1 to have another solid keeper, but i am open.
31 Phil Turner
      ID: 251531817
      Mon, Feb 22, 2021, 13:01
Hi all. Looking to trade 3B Suarez for draft picks.
32Meatwads
      ID: 53110252
      Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 03:55
Hope everyone is doing good. First time looking at my squad for a while. Here's where I'm at today. Feel free to reach out if you want to do something. I'm juggling a bunch of stuff so may not respond immediately.

Keepers
Brandon Lowe, 1B/2B/OF, TB
Gleyber Torres, 2B/SS, NYY
Anthony Rendon, 3B, LAA
Adalberto Mondesi, SS, KC
Trent Grisham, OF, SD
Shane Bieber, SP, CLE
Corbin Burnes, SP, MIL

Prospects
Nate Lowe, 1B, TEX
Marco Luciano, SS, SF
Matt Manning, SP, DET
Jose Urquidy, SP, HOU

On the Block
Josh Bell, 1B, WSH
Dylan Moore, 2B/SS/3B/OF, SEA
J.D. Martinez, OF, BOS
Byron Buxton, OF, MIN
Clint Frazier, OF, NYY
Tyler Glasnow, SP, TB
Triston McKenzie, SP, CLE
Kenley Jansen, RP, LAD
33Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Mar 01, 2021, 10:37

Deadline for keeper submission is 11:59PM PST on 15 March.



I have started a keeper thread. Post only your official keepers in that thread, no shameless ads for your extras, questions about the process or anything else please. Post that BS here instead, so nobody has to weed through that stuff to find your official keeper declaration.

You may update your keepers in the keeper thread by posting a new list. So, I suggest you post something ASAP, and update it later if you'd like. That way you don't end up with no keepers because you procrastinated.

There is no need to declare keepers in Yahoo, I will ignore it anyway.
34 GoatLocker
      Dude
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 15:46
Still thinking on Keepers, but hope to have them up in a few days.

GL
35 WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 18:51
Have a few extra keeper options, trying to consolidate (2 or 3 for 1) preferred to pick. Please let me know if any interest.

Paul Goldschmidt, Jose Altuve, Carlos Correa, Ryhs Hoskins, Joey Gallo, Yasmani Grandal, Kenta Maeda, Liam Hendricks, Raisel Iglesias
36 Bobo
      ID: 8231213
      Fri, Mar 05, 2021, 12:20
Keeper options available for trade:

Nick Castellanos
Aroldis Champman
37Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Mar 09, 2021, 11:05
The following have not yet posted keepers:

1 Nerve Clinic
2 WG
5 bili-cruisin'
6 GoatLockers Goons
11 Tax Rules

If you dont post something before the deadline, you get zero keepers. Your excuses will fall on deaf ears.
38 WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 10:46
Also have two extra prospects, Spencer Howard and Jazz Chisholm, that I can move if anyone is short of 5 good ones or is interested.
39Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 14:00
Keeper due 10th or 15th? Probably cant get to it today...
40Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 14:12
Read <33> above Bili.

I have begun loading keepers in Yahoo and will begin loading them into Draft Time later today. You can no longer "Set Keepers" in Yahoo as a result, though it was never necessary to do so.

If you want to check my work you can look at Draft Results at Yahoo. You can also see what is left after keepers in the players tab now. Of course, you will have to mentally subtract keepers for those who have not yet posted them.
41Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 21:51
Cool. Thanks bean. Just got freaked by the yahoo message saying the 10th. Workimg 10-15 hour days, sometimes 20 in a row. But have some time set aside Saturday to dig into my beloved baseball.
42Nerveclinic
      ID: 190422719
      Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 11:27
I haven't posted because I have trade offers out that I have not heard back on. I will post as soon as I get responses...
43C1-NRB
      ID: 51248129
      Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 10:49
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:

C1-NRB: Second round pick (15 overall) to
Nerveclinic: Giolito and tenth round pick (140 overall)

I will make adjustments in the Keeper thread.
44Nerveclinic
      ID: 26240126
      Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 23:56
Confirming the trade with C1-NRB
45 Taxman
      ID: 542121219
      Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 00:26
Re 37

Bean ... please look again @ Poli Keepers thread post # 14 , a March 10 post. If you can't see, please e-mail me and I will e-mail the Keepers to you.

Thanks for the work you put into the leagues you Commish
46Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 09:13
With less than two days left, the following have STILL not yet posted keepers:

1 Nerve Clinic
5 bili-cruisin'
47Nerveclinic
      ID: 190422719
      Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 10:20

Hi Bean. Just closed the trade with C1-NRB last night, couldn't do it until that was settled. Computer was broken and I had to reformat the drive from a back up that took 11 hours yesterday and was where all my info was. Woke up this morning to a working computer. Working on keepers now.

48biliruben
      ID: 170202910
      Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 10:45
That bili dude. F'in rude.
49biliruben
      ID: 170202910
      Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 11:33
Posted.

If Snell can make your big league roster better, he can be had for a mid-draft pick.

If Royce (top-30 prospect with a knee injury) Lewis looks like someone who will happily sit on your prospect list while healing. Ditto. Gots no room.
50 biliruben
      ID: 170202910
      Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 11:38
email. For the flurry of ever-higher bidding wars.
51 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 08:31
Trade Made:

Black Death Returns has agreed to trade its 2021 5th round pick

To

Bili-cruisin' for Blake Snell

--Joe
52Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 09:17
Confirmed
53Nerveclinic
      ID: 2243149
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 10:46

Is it possible to open the draft 24 hours early, but not start it so we can make our que’s.
54Nerveclinic
      ID: 2243149
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 10:49
When you make a change to your keepers can you also mention who you are returning to the draft so we can easily adjust our cheat sheets?
55Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 13:06
<53> I cannot open the Draft Time draft until the prospect draft is done, and I have loaded the prospect keepers into Draft Time. My plan is to open the Draft Time draft as soon as I am done loading it. That should be a few hours after the last prospect pick, as long as I am free to do the work.

It will open with no clock. After a minimum of 24 hours, I will change the clock to 4 hours, where, hopefully, it will remain until the draft is over.
56Nerveclinic
      ID: 190422719
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 13:41
Thanks Bean, makes sense.
57Nerveclinic
      ID: 190422719
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 13:49

WG because you removed the old keepers when you updated the list, we don't know who you threw back, which means if hey were deleted from our spreadsheets, they will not show up as draftable for us.

Can you let us know who you threw back?
58WG
      ID: 89402220
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 13:57
I removed Yasmani Grandal for Jose Altuve, and removed Spencer Howard (p) for Brennen Davis.
59WG
      ID: 89402220
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 14:40
Sorry, I also removed Liam Hendriks for Kenta Maeda.
60 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 14:47
I removed Moncada to make room for Snell
61WG
      ID: 89402220
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 21:32
TRADE

Phil gets Spencer Howard (p) and WG's 3rd round p-pick
WG gets Phil's 2nd round p-pick
62 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 21:33
Confirmed.
63Nerveclinic
      ID: 26240126
      Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 10:22
Apologies if I should know this. When does prospect draft start?
64Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 10:31
From <4> above:

15 MAR ALL KEEPERS DUE
16 MAR BEGIN Prospect Draft (in Rotoguru thread)
19 MAR TARGET END Prospect Draft
20 MAR TARGET BEGIN MLB Draft (Draftime)
30 MAR TARGET END MLB Draft
01 APR Start of Season
65 Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 10:59
I will start the Prospect draft tomorrow morning because the keeper deadline will be after I go to bed.

I am running two other keeper drafts that start tomorrow, and have the same keeper deadline, so I cannot give you a specific time for when the prospect draft will start. I hope to get this one going first. I live in Colorado and normally get rolling about 8 AM. Do the math.

The prospect draft is always problematic, since we don't get automated notices of when its our turn. I can send text of when it's your turn if you like. I have a few numbers, and will do so for those who are in my phone.

If you are not sure if I have your number, or you would like this free service, send me a text at 1-719-638-0337. Identify yourself with your rotoguru handle please.

If you aren't taking me up on my offer, do your best to check in every couple hours to see if it's your turn. If you take over four hours between 8 AM and Midnight in your time zone, we are all pissed off at you. Even if you take more than 5 minutes, some jerk will be upset. Don't be either of those guys please.

No promises, but I'll try to send e-mails to prompt you. Running four simultaneous drafts while participating in another keeps me pretty busy.

66 Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 08:10
<61> Houston we have a problem:

Phil gets Spencer Howard (p) and WG's 3rd round p-pick
WG gets Phil's 2nd round p-pick



In <3> above I reposted the ONLY trade involving picks at the time. I'll repost again now:

<141> Phil sends his 2021 prospect 2nd pick
bili sends his 2021 prospect last pick



Did Nerveclinic mention Phil makes a lot of trades? He sometimes loses track.

Prospect draft is postponed pending resolution of this issue.

You two sort this shit out and get back to me ASAP.




67 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 09:56
Updated trade.

The Sycamores trades his 1st rd prospect pick to WG for his prospect Spencer Howard and his 3rd rd prospect pick.
68Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 11:12
The prospect Draft thread is started. Check to make sure I didn't screw up the order or your keeper listing.

Please take the time to read the header info.
69Perm Dude
      ID: 272571622
      Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 23:59
Good pickup with Devin Williams, nerve. Was hoping he'd fall to me!
70 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 09:57
Just a FYI.

Regarding Prospects:

I kept Logan Gilbert, SP Seattle and Spencer Howard, SP Philly. And not Miguel Amaya, catcher.
71Nerveclinic
      ID: 2243149
      Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 10:52
When you make a change to your keepers can you also mention who you are returning to the draft so we can easily adjust our cheat sheets?
72biliruben
      ID: 170202910
      Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 10:55
Okays. My pick, right? Carry on?
73biliruben
      ID: 170202910
      Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 11:04
I'll assume so, as Phil decided not to trade my pick. Picking.
74 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 11:05
I did post who I was dropping. It was Amaya, catcher.
75Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 12:47
Yeah, I trucked up Phil, you're good to go.
77Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 16:41
Meatwads posted that he was drafting Ohtani, I assume he believes that his pitcher half somehow made him prospect eligible. If that were true every non-pitcher could be prospect eligible as pitcher and similarly every non-hitter could be drafted as a hitter. I think nobody would disagree that we simply cannot have this.

From 2019 thread <53>

To be clear, Ohtani is not prospect eligible. He had 326 ABs. You may not draft him as prospect pitcher either.

During the Draft Time draft, you will draft him as either a hitter or as a pitcher. So, two different teams can have rights to him.

If Yahoo merges the two players in the future, only one owner can own him. Who ever has the oldest rights, gets rights to both if Yahoo merges in the future. So, for now its who ever drafts his half first.


Unfortunately WG did not think this was an issue and made his pick, Nerveclinic made his as well. So "Cleanup on Aisle Two!!!".

I asked C1-NRB to wait to make 3.01.
78Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 16:47
Talked with Meatwads, he'll be making his pick shortly. He wont be taking either Nerve's or WG's guy. So this will be easy.

I'll text C1 when we are ready to resume.
79WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 18:04
Sorry, wasn't trying to get a quick pick in... just didn't occur to me that Ohtani the SP might not be eligible.
80Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 19:36
Most of us play in several leagues each with different rules concerning Ohtani. Dude is a PITA.
81Meatwads
      ID: 56216178
      Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 19:59
No worries guys! I legitimately thought I could draft Ohtani there as an SP since we have two separate Ohtani's. The offensive version passed the limits. Just a weird situation. I actually probably would've taken Jordan Hicks there, but I like Tejay Antone also so no big deal!
82Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 12:07
OK guys that's two players drafted without checking. I need to say something.

There is a reason I put ALL of the MLB Keepers and ALL of the Prospect Keepers at the top of the thread. All you need to do is type a CTRL-F to do a find on the thread for your player. You will find any mention of your intended draftee that way.

Be aware that misspellings matter, and I am not immune to that disease, but it should work for the most part.

Any questions?

83 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 12:18
I can only speak for myself in that I rushed my pick and stupidly didn't look several picks above. I definitely apologize for dragging this draft out..

Joe
84Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 13:37
I texted Goatlocker 30 mins ago. I'm sure he'll get to it when free to do so. I'll pick after him, and we should be back to normal.

Thanks WG for your attentiveness. We could have lost significant time with that one. We are doing fine on time though.

I am hopeful that we will be done with the prospect draft today. I'll be very distracted tonight, but hope to start the Draft Time draft before I go to bed, if we do finish the prospect draft.

This was the original schedule, we're about a day ahead of schedule:

16 MAR BEGIN Prospect Draft (in Rotoguru thread)
19 MAR TARGET END Prospect Draft
20 MAR TARGET BEGIN MLB Draft (Draftime)
30 MAR TARGET END MLB Draft
85 GoatLocker
      Dude
      ID: 060151121
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 14:36
Sorry All.
Fixed.
Too much going on and blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.
86Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 16:12
Are we having fun yet?

Texted Meatwads, he'll be picking within the hour most likely.
87C1-NRB
      ID: 199351222
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 18:40
I 100% support starting on Saturday, seeing as how I'm out of town with no spreadsheet access. \o/
88Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 19:41
I am about to start the Draft at Draft Time. It will be untimed until Saturday morning, at which time there will be a 4 hour clock.

You should check your keepers and draft picks at Draft Time and let me know ASAP if you find an error.

You should also check your keepers in Yahoo by looking a Draft Results.

Many of your prospects are not listed in Draft Time, and some of them aren't in Yahoo. The list of prospects at the bottom of the prospect draft thread has a key (x and y) for the ones who weren't in the two data bases.

As I add keepers and drafted players to the Yahoo teams, they are removed from the list of players in the players tab. I will load players drafted in Yahoo at least daily to keep that tool useful to you.

That should allow C1-NRB to function without his "spreadsheet" for at least the first round I would think. The first round is usually the slowest, be ready for that and please no whining about someone going too slow. We just need to finish round one by Friday night to stay on schedule, though I would prefer we make better progress than that.
89biliruben
      ID: 170202910
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 19:53
It may be just me, but that was one of the least interesting Prospect drafts ever. We are keeping too many. Depressing to be drafting dregs, cripples and flyers in the first round.
90biliruben
      ID: 170202910
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 19:56
Thanks for all your hard work, Bean. And, though I didn't need it this year, thanks for emailing the league!
91Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 19:56
Draft has been stopped. Apparently I set it as a snake draft vs a pro draft. Might be awhile. Hopefully Fred can reset it.

Meanwhile, check your keepers if u can.
92C1-NRB
      ID: 199351222
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 21:07
I can do this. A pick will be made tonight.
93C1-NRB
      ID: 199351222
      Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 23:10
Done.
Bobo, at your leisure...
94Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 00:03
OK, true story.

I started the draft, and saw that Nerveclinic had back to back picks (1.14 and 2.01). I instinctively panicked and thought I had set the draft for snake, halted the draft and contacted Fred to see if he could help me. He told me he could not fix that, and I decided I would just reverse all the even rounds through pick trades. However, I had stuff to do and would have to postpone for a few hours.

So, now I am back. I figured it would be easier to undo the two "legit trades" first then do the even round thing then put those trades back in. Still with me?

Turns out that the reason Nerve had back to back picks is that he had traded for 2.01. The draft was not set to snake as I thought, and I hastily jumped to a conclusion. Bottom line is it was all a false alarm, sorry guys. Proceed as normal. Let me know if there are any "real problems" with the draft set up.

Paraphrasing the words of somebody famous "I only made one mistake in my life. That was when I thought I had made a mistake, but actually didn't...thinking that I had made a mistake was the ONLY mistake I ever made."
96Perm Dude
      ID: 3310302519
      Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 09:50
Its all good, Bean. You're doing a great job.
97biliruben
      ID: 170202910
      Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 11:53
Yes, thanks Bean. Are you looking for work? We are in desperate need of people who don't make mistakes. Keeps the mayor off my ass.

FYI - my pick won't be coming immediately. Hopefully in the next few hours, but maybe not.

Just didn't want you to keep hitting refresh.

98 GoatLocker
      Dude
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 10:58
Sorry for the delay all.
And ditto on the great job Bean.

GL
99Nerveclinic
      ID: 2243149
      Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 10:21

Bean I laughed at your mistake quote.
100Nerveclinic
      ID: 6245228
      Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 09:45

Bean I laughed at your mistake quote.
101Taxman
      ID: 362432122
      Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 12:38
I laughed at Nerve repeating his post 23 hours later (99 & 100)

:0)
102Taxman
      ID: 362432122
      Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 12:41
and Bean ... thanks for great job commishing two of my drafts (Poli and 8 Men Out)
103Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Mar 23, 2021, 20:28
Alright guys, we are at the point where I have to to do adds to your roster one player at a time as you draft them. To mark your prospects with a K, this is how we do things.

So, I started the season, dropped your prospects from your rosters and locked you out of adds/drops and trades until the draft is over.

You should be able to see all of your draftees (minus prospects) at Yahoo now. You can set a lineup now too.

You can still use the players tab, unfortunately you cannot remove the prospect keepers in your search.

If you find a mistake with your team let me know ASAP.
104 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 13:49
Hey, Bean...I saw that Justin Turner is on my Yahoo roster, but I believe that bili-cruisin' drafted him. Just a head's up!

Thx for your hard work running this league.
Joe
105C1-NRB
      ID: 302592415
      Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 17:00
Quick apology for the delay today.
Wednesdays I go to two worksites, both different than my normal office, that are 40 miles apart. The pick slipped up on me and passed me by before I could get in a place to make a pick.
106Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 17:31
<104> Was a remnant of the pick trade you all did. Wasn't attentive to it.

Anyway, I put turner on Bili's team.
107C1-NRB
      ID: 432232514
      Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 15:23
Guys, I could've sworn I had those back-to-back picks both set to Autopick.

What kangaroo court fine do I need to pay? Change team name to Draft Draggers? Draftime Outs? Let me hear from ya!
108Bobo
      ID: 8231213
      Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 15:37
It happens. Having been the team to follow your picks, I was watching that countdown clock all day working from home...work on one monitor and Draftime on the other.
109Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 10:13
<107> Haven't thought of anything clever for your team name. But if you pick up my prospect during the regular season, you will henceforth be known as "Special K" instead of all that other alphabet in your handle.
110 Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 09:35
Draft is over and all of your players are loaded to your team. Prospects are not on your roster, but have a "K" next to their name if they are in the Yahoo data base. If you find an error let me know.

Adds and Drops are still locked until tomorrow morning when I will unlock them. At that point you can pick up prospects for your team, or add players via free agency.

Until tomorrow morning you may claim a player on waivers. I will do it for you manually, prior to removing the Add/Drop restriction. Just send me an e-mail.

Sorry, I can't be more specific about the time for removing the add/drop, it all depends on when I wake up, take the dog outside ,and have coffee, process waiver claims, etc. That said, figure around 10 AM EDT. It you are afraid you wont get that special player before someone else, use your waiver.

One last thing, remember to respect the "K".
111Nerveclinic
      ID: 40222289
      Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 10:24
Thanks Bean, great job running 5he draft...
112 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 09:21
Trade Alert.

The Sycamores trades Eloy Jimenez to Black Death Returns for Shohei Ohtani.
113 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 09:23
Confirmed - Ohtani (batter) for Eloy Jimenez.
114Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 11:22
As a reminder, I do not want to commish this league any longer, I barely want to play in it.. Somebody has to step up next year or this league is in its last year. I wont repeat myself, this is the final warning.
115Nerveclinic
      ID: 190422719
      Wed, May 05, 2021, 10:33
Bean I am not just a charter member, I started the whole league, it was my idea.

Yes I was the commish for the first few years.

You've definitely been railroaded into this spot and it is simply not fair but we appreciate that you have hung in there this long. I think you know how much we appreciate everything you've done to make this league function.

We will make sure that there is someone to replace you before the start of next season.

We've been playing for 20+ years, it would be a shame to not continue.

Thanks...
116Bobo
      ID: 36211018
      Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 19:21
Trade Alert

In addition to the players swapped on Yahoo between our teams, Spencer Torkelson (Det/INF) is also coming back my way.

Phil will confirm.

I will be within Prospect Keeper limits once this trade is complete.
117 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 19:58
Confirmed.
119Nerveclinic
      ID: 190422719
      Mon, Jul 12, 2021, 01:37
Another Sycamore trade.

Nerve trades to Sycamores Trivino for Sycamores 1st round prospect draft pick (2022) and Sycamores gets Nerve's final prospect draft pick.

To make players even in yahoo sycamores also sends nerve active roster player Tyler Rogers who Nerve will drop
120 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Mon, Jul 12, 2021, 02:55
Confirmed.
121Perm Dude
      ID: 272571622
      Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 15:00
Trade between the Perm Dudes and The Sycamores include prospect Nick Gonzales going to PD.
122 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 15:15
Confirmed.
123 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 14:19
Black Death has agreed to send Josh Hader to The Sycamores for Kyle Schwarber, prospect Nolan Gorman, prospect Spencer Howard, The Sycamores' 2022 MLB 1st round pick and The Sycamores 2022 MLB 2nd round pick.

Joe
124 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 14:20
Confirmed.
125 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 14:22
Black Death Returns drops prospects Garrett Crochet and Tony Gonsolin to make room for Howard and Gorman.

Joe
126Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 23:06
Joe,

Pretty sure the rule is you can have as many prospects as you want all the way up to keeper declaration, when you can have no more than 5. You must have exactly eight at the end of the prospect draft. Basically the limits are only applied during the prospect draft.

Is that how everyone understands it?
127WG
      ID: 89402220
      Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 01:30
Yes, agree with Bean. So don't have to drop Crochet and Gonsolin at this time.
128 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 07:21
Much appreciated, guys. I wasn't positive on that but didn't want to run afoul of any rules. Thx!

Joe
129C1-NRB
      ID: 576541616
      Fri, Jul 16, 2021, 18:00
Trade between Sycamores and Goose Eggs also includes:
Sycamores 3rd round 2022 draft pick for Goose Eggs 7th round and,
Sycamores 1st round prospect pick in 2023
130 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 04:16
Confirmed.
131C1-NRB
      ID: 576541616
      Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 19:11
Sycamores 3rd round 2022 draft pick for Goose Eggs 7th round and,
Sycamores 1st round prospect pick in 2023


So this league better keep going for at least two more years.
132Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 01:21
I seem to remember banning that. Maybe im thinking of another league
133 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 08:10
Confirmed.
134Perm Dude
      ID: 452112010
      Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 10:50
#132: This was discussed last year (about post 25 or so) and the 2018 thread as well (about post 12). As far as I can tell, there are no limits to the number of in-season prospects you can have but you are required to keep only the number permitted in the draft the following season.

Last year: http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=basest&thread=8121&last=1612809546

2018: http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=basest&thread=8097&last=1550787924
135Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 07:17
I also recieve prospect gilbert in the baddoo trade.
136 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 05:51
Confirmed.
137 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 12:18
Good day all.

I didn’t know if Starlin Marte was available or not?

Just checking.
138Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Sat, Jul 31, 2021, 03:18
Starling? Hes goats.
139 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Tue, Aug 03, 2021, 19:05
Also a fan of Marte and Rizzo or Votto.
140 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 11:03
The latest trade alert.

The Sycamores trades Akil Baddoo, 2022 mlb 4th rd pick, and 2023 mlb 2nd rd pick to Black Death Returns for Salvador Perez.
141 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 11:18
Confirmed.
142Bobo
      ID: 8231213
      Mon, Aug 09, 2021, 12:33
A few days late, however as part of the deal where

Beer City sent Dylan Cease to Sycamores for Willson Contreras, there was also a 2023 pick swap.

Beer City gets: 3rd rd in 2023
Sycamores gets: 8th rd in 2023

143Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 05:18
Turner for soto: I also give my 2nd for C1s 8th.

2022, of course. cuz thats all thats within the rules
144C1-NRB
      ID: 576541616
      Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 10:14
As part of the Turner/Soto-Baez trade between Goose Eggs and Bilicrusin':
Goose Eggs gets 2022 2nd round draft pick,
Bilicrusin' gets 2022 8th round draft pick
145C1-NRB
      ID: 576541616
      Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 10:15
Yeah, so I guess that's confirmation, huh? 😉
146WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 10:30
Do our rules state we can only trade next year's picks and not beyond?
147Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 10:58
I dont think we have discussed that one in this league, WG. We have done so in the TPKL (I think five of us are in that ten man league). There we made a rule so someone cant trade away their entire future for the current season. Not sure, but it was a simple two years ahead I think.

More than one year out, and in the worst case, two teams could work together to trade odd year picks for even year picks and take turns winning the league. So far, that has happened.....yet.

I'll let someone else take the lead on sorting this out, if folks want to debate this one.
148WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 11:20
Yea I didn't think we had that rule memorialized either, but was just curious from Bili's trade post mention of it. Didn't see anything in the rules in the subject post either. It probably makes sense to have something stated though to prevent trading too far out.
149 Biliruben
      ID: 222351312
      Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 21:45
Ok. Cool. Must have been thinking of another league. Carry on.
150Biliruben
      ID: 222351312
      Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 21:51
Sorry about that. This is why I shouldn't commish. My memory is shit.
151Nerveclinic
      ID: 147501217
      Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 18:51

Trade of Grossman to Bili is for his 3rd round pick next year...
152Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 18:52
And 8th in return. Confirmed.
153Perm Dude
      ID: 3310302519
      Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 19:14
Sycamores: I get it that you're addicted to trading. I respect that, and that the offers are, more or less, fair.

But it is unfair to continually send trade offers and then cancel them less than 24 hours later.

Please don't send me any trade offers if you can't even leave them open one day. It is not fair for me to research trades only to have them yanked hours after they were offered.
154artofmonk
      ID: 367191213
      Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 09:37

Nathan Eovaldi to The Sycamores
for
Nelson Cruz and 1st rd pick in 2023
to artofmonk

Trade already confirmed and processed in the league.
155WG
      ID: 89402220
      Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 10:05
Will probably require a collective effort to ensure all these traded picks are accurately reflected in subsequent drafts.
156Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Aug 24, 2021, 12:21
Trade between me and Phil (Sycamores) includes a prospect's rights:

Bean sends Tyler Naquin

Phil sends Jean Segura and prospect Cristian Hernandez, SS, CHI

157C1-NRB
      ID: 576541616
      Sun, Aug 29, 2021, 17:25
Yeah, so I guess that's confirmation, huh? 😉
158Nerveclinic
      ID: 147501217
      Thu, Sep 02, 2021, 11:00

WG:"Will probably require a collective effort to ensure all these traded picks are accurately reflected in subsequent drafts."

As of right now, we don't even have a commish for next year!

159Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 00:52
From May:

"If we are up above 95% vaccinated by August, I promise to take on the mantle."


We didnt even come close.

Still overworked and underpaid. No end in sight. Someone else needs to step up.

160 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Wed, Sep 29, 2021, 09:49
Congrats on the season.
161Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Thu, Sep 30, 2021, 10:14
Hah! I wont fall for your tricks!
163Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Thu, Sep 30, 2021, 10:16
I can hear WG cackling with his final push plans as well.
164Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Thu, Sep 30, 2021, 10:18
How many trades did ypu make? Felt like you flipped your entire roster 4 times.
165Nerveclinic
      ID: 2192349
      Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 10:24

Congratulations Cam...Great job.

I warned everyone Tree likes to trade.
166Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 11:11
Grats Cam
167 Joe
      ID: 53021286
      Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 11:15
Congrats!
168Biliruben
      ID: 22591012
      Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 12:24
Thanks!
169WG
      ID: 89402220
      Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 20:30
Congrats Biliruben on a great season and what ended up being a pretty convincing victory. Those plans I had were just longshots; I couldn't move up (or down) much in hitting so figured my only chance to get the 6-8 points needed to catch you was gains in pitching, so I started adding SP like crazy trying to improve on my ratios, Ks and QSs. It was also a chess game since everyone was adding SP so I had to look to probable starters 2 and 3 days out, which was actually kind of fun. It clearly didn't matter in the end but I gave it a shot.

Hats off to Phil for a strong finish and for giving me a good battle for 2nd. I was skeptical at first that all the trades you were making/made would result in a net positive but it clearly did and I think we flip flopped 2 and 3 more than a few times.

Shout-outs to Fred for a big 12th to 4th jump, and to Meat for yet another strong finish after top 3 finishes the last 5 years.

Thanks again to Bean for his efforts in commissioning and administering things so smoothly and efficiently.

Looking forward to next year!
170 Cam Solomon
      ID: 298211621
      Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 21:18
Yeah, reay nice battle. I think k both of you came within 2 ptz of me in the last 2 weeks. No coasting for me. Was also looking 2 to 3 days out for some pretty bottom of barrel shit. Maybe we need to cut max innings to 1250?
171Cam Solomon
      ID: 298211621
      Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 21:21
I was also lucky Phil came hard. Definitely me it harder for you Amit.

Pretty amazing run for Phil looking at his roster. No idea how he did it. Definitely need Trea's steals even though losing Soto was a blow long term.
172Cam Solomon
      ID: 298211621
      Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 21:32
Yeah, nobody came even close to maxing but contenders. C1 left more than half is innings on the table. 1400 makes no sense. There aren't enough innings in the MLB.
173 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Thu, Oct 07, 2021, 04:14
Awesome season. Made a good run at the title. Fun season. Congrats on the win.
174Nerveclinic
      ID: 560232410
      Mon, Feb 07, 2022, 20:02
Bean and I have spoken privately through email, he is not going to be the commissioner this year.

I don't think I can handle it.

Does anyone want to step up and do it?

This league has 20+ years under its belt.

I want to take this opportunity to thank Bean for all his hard work. He did a brilliant job.

Next?

175Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Feb 08, 2022, 11:04
As I told Monty, I'll be happy to help with draft set up. That's the majority of the work. So, if the draft is what's stopping someone from stepping forward. I got that.

Roll call/recruiting, keepers and trade collection, rule changes/constitution, and especially in season prospect monitoring is what I do not want to do. Perhaps people can volunteer for some of these jobs and a new commissioner would step forward.

176Nerveclinic
      ID: 560232410
      Fri, Feb 11, 2022, 10:48
I'm guessing most are not even looking here yet so probably not seeing these messages.
177WG
      ID: 89402220
      Fri, Feb 11, 2022, 10:51
Sorry, saw the messages. Thanks Nerve for starting things up and thanks Bean for all your efforts the past few seasons. I'm in for this year. Don't think I have capacity to take on Commish role but am up for helping out along the way.
178Biliruben
      ID: 1385676
      Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 21:13
I can do roll call, if I have access to the league. I'll give her a try.
179Biliruben
      ID: 1385676
      Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 21:14
Yeah, no go.
180Biliruben
      ID: 1385676
      Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 21:16
Wait. Tricked it.
181Perm Dude
      ID: 71111821
      Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 21:25
Can't respond on the yahoo site, unfortunately. But I got the message and am in. Would like to improve on a decent (4th place) season last year.
182Biliruben
      ID: 1385676
      Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 21:30
Yay! PD! You had a solid first half. Just gotta avoid the fade.
183 Mudville 9
      ID: 35243620
      Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 21:43
I’m in.
184artofmonk
      ID: 722079
      Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 10:20
in
185Biliruben
      ID: 1385676
      Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 11:01
3-on-3 with Bean as all-time QB.
186Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 12:08
In
187Meatwads
      ID: 52216712
      Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 13:16
Sorry fellas. I no longer have time to play leagues here. Thanks for all the good times, and I wish you all the best of luck.
188Bobo
      ID: 36211018
      Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 14:13
In.
189 Joe
      ID: 251130817
      Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 19:07
I've got a busy year ahead, but I'm in and I'll make sure to actively manage my team.
190Nerveclinic
      ID: 560232410
      Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 00:35
In
191C1-NRB
      ID: 6216810
      Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 11:16
In
192 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 11:31
In.
193Biliruben
      ID: 1385676
      Wed, Mar 09, 2022, 07:25
Sorry to hear that, Meatwads. Anyone know of a good candidate to replace him?
194Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Mar 09, 2022, 13:27
I renewed the league, giving co-commish to Bili and Nerve.

Bili, if you need help with the controls let me know.
195Cam Solomon
      ID: 298211621
      Wed, Mar 09, 2022, 13:38
Ok. I am pretty terrible about details and am an epidemiologist working in covid, so I really don't have much time. Happy to pitch in when I do though.
196Cam Solomon
      ID: 298211621
      Wed, Mar 09, 2022, 13:39
I'll do the aspiration lit review if you run the league Nerve.
197taxman
      ID: 392371111
      Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 12:39
in
198Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 11:43
This was last year's schedule. Add 6 days to each step and you get this year's schedule.

08 FEB BEGIN Roll Call
01 MAR CONFIRM 2021 Participants
15 MAR ALL KEEPERS DUE
16 MAR BEGIN Prospect Draft (in Rotoguru thread)
19 MAR TARGET END Prospect Draft
20 MAR TARGET BEGIN MLB Draft (Draftime)
30 MAR TARGET END MLB Draft
01 APR Start of Season

To be done on time we need someone to step forward to commish by St Patrick's day, or its just time to say goodbye.
199Nerveclinic
      ID: 560232410
      Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 12:43

I suspect that this is the end since no one wants to be the commissioner?
200Perm Dude
      ID: 71111821
      Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 13:58
Do we have enough managers? I'll commish but don't have time to recruit
201Nerveclinic
      ID: 560232410
      Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 15:37
I was actually going to message you to see if you would do it. Great news. I will certainly help out when you need help PD. And yes I will start recruiting.
202artofmonk
      ID: 92181417
      Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 18:18
I am in and could help out if needed.
203Nerveclinic
      ID: 560232410
      Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 19:57

I have a replacement for Meatwads team. Please stop looking if you are. He has confirmed he wants to join. I will send him the link to the rotoguru page. I am in another league with him for several years and he is very active.

His name is Dale.
204daleteekz
      ID: 132311419
      Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 20:31
Hey guys, im back (well, back to rotoguru site)
205Joe
      ID: 251130817
      Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 20:58
Welcome back, Dale!
206 biliruben
      ID: 4946618
      Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 23:24
Welcome Dale!!

And you rock, PD!!
207Perm Dude
      ID: 71111821
      Tue, Mar 15, 2022, 06:16
Excellent news all around.

I'll work on a schedule today.

208Perm Dude
      ID: 71111821
      Tue, Mar 15, 2022, 08:41
Tentative schedule

March 21 Keepers Due
March 21 Prospect Draft Begins (immediately after keepers declared)
March 25 Prospect draft End
March 25 Regular Draft begins (or sooner, if Prospect Draft is done earlier)
April 4 Regular Draft Ends
April 7 Start of Season
209WG
      ID: 89402220
      Tue, Mar 15, 2022, 11:42
Thanks PD and welcome Dale! Looking forward to it.
210Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Mar 15, 2022, 11:53
PD, thanks for stepping up.

I've made you co-commish at Yahoo. After I have renewed Draft Time, I'll do the same there.

You can call me at 719-638-0337. Until I have your contact info in my contacts, I wont answer the phone. Leave a message, and I will call you back within 24 hours.
211Nerveclinic
      ID: 560232410
      Wed, Mar 16, 2022, 10:46

So we need one more manager, Goatlocker (Cliff) is not able to play this year, so the search is back on.

212Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Mar 16, 2022, 12:35
We can always contract to 13, if we can't find someone at this eleventh hour. Can expand back out in the future. Expansion can be as simple as reducing our keepers by one and let the new guy pick his keepers from FAs. Return to the old rules in the following year.

All of that said, 14 teams this year would be better.
213 mailedfoot
      ID: 5082825
      Wed, Mar 16, 2022, 18:31
I'll play if you need someone
214Nerveclinic
      ID: 412211712
      Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 14:48
Hi everyone, we have our replacement for Goatlockers team. Bruce (Mailedfoot) has been playing in various leagues at rotoguru for 10 years.

He is in a league with PD in myself also.

So it looks like we are full.

Welcome Bruce it's great to have you.
215mailedfoot
      ID: 5082825
      Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 15:15
Thank you, Nerve

Looking forward to being part of the league!
216Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 22:56
So, keepers are due in four days? Someone gonna start a thread?
217 Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 01:08
I have ten potential keepers for my seven keeper slots. If interested, I am looking for picks or prospect upgrades.

Better come with a big deal:
Ozzie Albies
Trevor Story
George Springer
Jose Abreu
Will Smith

Need to keep two of these:
Jonathon India
Jared Walsh
Raisel Iglesia
Edwin Diaz
Anthony DeSclafani

218Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 01:11
Here's a link to the prospect draft results from last year. If there were any trades, they are not reflected. Someone will need to go through the entire 112 player list to determine who is still prospect eligible and altering the list to reflect any trades from last season. You'll need to do this before we start the prospect draft.
219Perm Dude
      ID: 71111821
      Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 09:50
I'll work through the player list over the next couple of days.

A reminder that we are allowed you are allowed 7 keepers and up to 5 prospect keepers.

I will start a keeper thread and regular discussion thread--feel free to place tentative keepers in the keeper thread there, which (unless changes) will become permanent at 11:59PM PST on March 21.

So a manager can change their list at any time up until the deadline. But as always, it is a good idea to put a tentative one up because you don't want me picking your keepers.
220Perm Dude
      ID: 71111821
      Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 08:26
Slow prospect draft thread up.
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