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0 Subject: 2024 Political Baseball Pre-season

Posted by: Perm Dude
- [150252913] Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 14:25

Check in time. I'll renew the league and we can swap in new managers if needed, but let's have a head count please.
1Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 14:27
In
2 Mudville 9
      ID: 550282913
      Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 14:29
I'm in.
3daleteekz
      ID: 480292913
      Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 14:29
In
4 Joe
      ID: 550372913
      Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 14:38
In
5Bobo
      ID: 360192914
      Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 15:19
In.
6WG
      ID: 89402220
      Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 15:37
In
7mailedfoot
      ID: 20442915
      Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 16:44
In
8C1-NRB
      ID: 54727229
      Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 18:18
In.
9 taxman
      ID: 28081719
      Tue, Jan 30, 2024, 02:37
In
10nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Tue, Jan 30, 2024, 22:55
In
11 Phil Turner
      ID: 11702516
      Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 19:02
In
12artofmonk
      ID: 1615215
      Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 16:05
in
13biliruben
      ID: 5158412
      Sun, Feb 04, 2024, 13:58
Sorry. In
14Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Feb 14, 2024, 12:04
So, that's all 14 returning, right?

Tentative schedule? Season starts on 20 MAR in Seoul, which may be 19 MAR in the USA.
15Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 17:51
I compiled a list of last year's prospects and checked them for eligibility. I did not account for traded prospects in the owner column, you can figure that out.

link

Let me know if you see any errors.
16Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 22:04
Reposting this summary from last season's thread. The bracketed numbers are a post number reference:

Pick Trade Summary
<218> Bobo sends 2024 1st - Bean sends 2024 15th
<220> Taxman sends 2024 1st - Bean sends 2024 14th
<222> Phil sends 2024 2nd and 3rd - Bean sends 2024 12th and 13th
<224> Phil sends 2024 1st - Joe sends 2024 14th
<228> Dale sends 2024 2nd - Bean sends 2024 11th


Prospect Trade Summary
<218> Bean sends Felix Bautista to Bobo
<234> WG sends Tink Hence to Joe
<238> WG send Taj Bradley to Foot
<247> WG sends Masyn Winn to Phil
<259> WG sends Triston Casas to PD
<261> WG sends Endy Rodriguez to Mudville
<264> C1 sends Pete Crow Armstrong to Phil
<266> WG sends Nick Yorke to C1
17Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 22:16
Wow, I got a ton. Including my own, I have three firsts, three 2nds and two thirds. How'd that happen? Better not mess this one up.
18 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 06:53
Good day all.

When everyone gets going. Diaz, Reds closer will be available for mlb draft pick and a prospect.

1st or 2nd rd pick plus a prospect.
19nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 22:18
How much time do we need for the two drafts? 10 days? Start around March 8-9?

20Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 22:46
Here's the tentative schedule PD posted last year. Don't know how close we stuck to it, but you can figure we need to do these steps 10 days earlier this year with those Seoul games. So,for example, the keepers would be due on March 3rd vs Mar 13th.

TENTATIVE SCHEDULE:

Keepers due March 13th
March 13 Prospect Draft begins (immediately after keepers declared)
March 20 Prospect Draft ends
March 20 Regular Draft begins (sooner, if WE GET THE Prospect Draft done earlier)
March 28 Regular Draft Ends (or sooner, God willing)
March 30th Start of Season


21Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 23:04
I also noticed post #36 from last season's thread:

"dale has to be commish next year as punishment"
22Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 23:34
And as another response to the large number of people picking up someone else's prospect, this solution was offered:

"The solution is simple. When people do this we just put a stop on their ability to pick up FAs for a week. Second time they do it, its two weeks, etc.

They don't like it, they quit and the problem goes away.

All in favor? ;)"
23Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 09:43
The Poli Baseball League Constitution

Rule Changes

In order for a new rule or rule change to pass, we need a majority the league (not voters) to vote yes. This is currently 8 of 14. The manager who proposes the rule should make a reasonable effort to publicize that there is a vote going on. If a majority do not vote for the proposal within a week, the proposal fails.

Yahoo Baseball
7 keepers; No more than 5 prospect keepers
Next Day Transactions - Daily/Tomorrow
Waivers - Continual Rolling List - 1 day waiver period
Trade Deadline - Closest Sunday to August 31st
Trade Review - League Votes
Supplemental draft picks may be traded

Scoring Settings
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util
SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL, DL
Max IP - 1400
Batters Categories: Runs (R), Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases
(SB), On Base Percentage (OBP)
Pitchers Categories: Quality Starts (QS), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average
(ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)

MLB Supplemental Draft
Draft Utility - Draftime
Player must be in the Yahoo database at the time he is picked in the
supplemental draft.
No time limit initially, unless deemed necessary
Straight Draft, Reverse order of standings

Prospect Draft & Rules
Straight Draft, Reverse order of standings
To be conducted BEFORE the Supplemental Draft
Under 300 AB's or 125 IP to be draft eligible
Any player at any level (as long as they are under limits) can be drafted as prospect. College, International, Little League etc.
You can retain up to 5 prospect eligible players from one season to next
There are 8 rounds in the prospect draft - minus a pick for each prospect you carry over.
ALL teams are entitled to EXACTLY 8 prospects by the end of the prospect draft. NO TEAM will be allowed to have any number other than eight prospects at the end of the prospect draft.
Prospects may be called up in-season and can be sent back and forth to prospect list until the end of the season in which they exceeded the stated prospect limits. As with our new rule, managers can keep prospects for the entire season in which they exceed their stated prospect level limits. So, if your prospect hits the limit in May, you may still hold his rights as a prospect until the beginning of the following season. Prospects may be called up or sent down anytime in-season or off-season prior to keeper declaration. If called up and made an MLB keeper, prospects will lose their prospect status.

Prospect rights may be traded.
Prospect picks may be traded as long as receiving team has enough spots to make the draft pick at time of draft.
You can trade for as many prospects as you like - however you'll need to have 5 or less at the time of the Prospect Draft

Poli League Trophy Case

2001 Toral
2003 Baldwin
2004 Skanks 4 Bush
2005 Baldwin
2006 1625 K St Allstars
2007 Biliruben
2008 Biliruben
2009 Tree
2010 Biliruben
2011 Nerveclinic
2012 Great One
2013 Wazaaap Guy
2014 Great One
2015 Wazaaap Guy
2016 Nerveclinic
2017 Meatwads
2018 Meatwads/Nerveclinic
2019 Wazaaap Guy
2020 Nerveclinic
2021 Biliruben
2022 Wazaaap Guy
2023 Nerveclinic
24Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 09:51
As Bean points out above, the games in Korea things get moved a little bit earlier this year.

TENTATIVE SCHEDULE:

Keepers due March 13th
March 3 Prospect Draft begins (immediately after keepers declared)
March 10 Prospect Draft ends
March 10 Regular Draft begins (sooner, if WE GET THE Prospect Draft done earlier)
March 18 Regular Draft Ends (or sooner, God willing)
Wednesday March 20th Start of Season
25Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 10:24
Keepers due March 3rd, I assume.
26Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 11:05
Yeah, seems just a typo Bili
27 Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 12:20
I renewed the Draft Time draft. I assigned co-admin to Perm Dude, didn't see how to assign admin. PD, if you want to get the regular admin privilege, you'll need to create the league from scratch.

I also gave co-admin privileges to WG and Nerveclinic, who have helped in the past.

For everyone, check to make sure you still remember your Draft Time username and password, and that "Poliboard Baseball" is listed as one of your active drafts. Let me know if you have any issues.
28WG
      ID: 89402220
      Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 14:17
Thanks for all the work and effort, Bean!
29nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Sat, Feb 24, 2024, 00:55

Bean thanks so much for all you do.


30Perm Dude
      ID: 461362412
      Sat, Feb 24, 2024, 13:36
#25: Yeah, just a typo.
31nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 15:05

Nerveclinic trades Francisco Lindor to Mudville 9 for Mudville's first round pick. For Nerves last round pick.
32 Mudville 9
      ID: 550282913
      Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 15:08
Confirm.
33Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sat, Mar 02, 2024, 09:08
keepers due tomorrow.
34 WG
      ID: 89402220
      Sat, Mar 02, 2024, 12:41
in the market for another keeper, if anyone has an idea. open to a pick swap or 1 for 2.
35 Joe
      ID: 26118267
      Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 17:12
Time for today's keeper deadline?
36Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 18:57
Seems everyone has posted keepers except:

Nerveclinic
artofmonk
Perm Dude (posted, but no prospects?)


37Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 19:31
BTW,

I learned that Yahoo has changed some things with off-line drafting keeper leagues.

During the draft of the G20 Hoops League, I learned that loading players with the draft tool as the draft progresses, no longer works as expected.

Unless you start the league, THEN do regular player adds, the entire rosters from the previous season will not appear in available players. So, that means, even if a guy was not kept, he will not appear as available.

Having someone doing regular player adds as commish is a clunky solution, that requires more work.

If I were to guess, you'll need to track available players on your own this season. Easy way is to load a pre-ranked players list to draft time. Of course, you won't see the player stats so easy.

Enjoy
38Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 21:13
Nerve and Art have a few hours yet to post keepers.

I've doublechecked prospect limits and we're good so far (Joe wins the Price is Right Prize, with Bobby Miller).
39 Joe
      ID: 26118267
      Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 21:33
Black Death Returns has agreed to send Phil's 2024 1st round pick to Nerveclinic for Luis Castillo and Nerve's second to last 2024 MLB draft pick.
40artofmonk
      ID: 51226321
      Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 22:50
posted
41nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Sun, Mar 03, 2024, 22:55

Black Death Returns has agreed to send Phil's 2024 1st round pick to Nerveclinic for Luis Castillo and Nerve's second to last 2024 MLB draft pick.

Confirmed
42Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 08:18
Nerve--we need keepers from you.
43Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 09:17
Ugh--WG reminded me that I neglected two other prospect keepers. Since Nerve hasn't posted, I'm taking the initiative and updating now.
44Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 09:47
dead·line
/ˈdedˌlīn/
noun
1.
the latest time or date by which something should be completed.
"the deadline for submissions is February 5th"
Similar:
time limit
limit
finishing date
finishing time
target date
target time
cutoff point
2.
HISTORICAL
a line drawn around a prison beyond which prisoners were liable to be shot.

I volunteer for the firing squad!
45nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 10:29
Go read the keeper page Bean, it says keepers due the 13th.

Go read right above here it says the 13th. I looked quickly and that's what I saw.

I didn't read further and see that the prospect draft starts the 4th. Why doesn't it say prospect keepers due the 3rd?

So what is it? Are the keepers due the 13th? Like it says in 2 different places? Or are they due now?


It doesn't really work to be so snarky Bean, when you can see the directions were written poorly, and it's easy to get confused.

I still appreciate all your help.

46Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 10:40
Ready......Aim........!!!!!!!!
47nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 10:46

You want to keep it up Bean?

The instructions say the 13th, I didn't see the correction.

Are you just having a bad day Bean?


48Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 10:46
;)
49Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 13:23
OK, updating my spreadsheets and will open up the prospect draft thread this afternoon.

Everyone: Please mark your keepers in Yahoo if you haven't already.
50Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 13:48
As far as I can tell, no prospect draft pick slots were traded for this year. If I've overlooked anything let me know.
51Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 15:17
Pretty sure C1 is not entitled to keep Luis Morales as his prospect keeper. Take a look at post 57 of 2023 Political Baseball League Prospect Draft thread.

Morales was his 9th prospect, and he had to give him back. He will need to be given another draft pick in this year's prospect draft as a result.
52C1-NRB
      ID: 41218222
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 15:23
Oops. I'll give Luis Morales back into the pool.
53WG
      ID: 89402220
      Mon, Mar 04, 2024, 16:09
TRADE

PD gets p1.11 and Esteury Ruiz
WG gets p1.02
54Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 09:46
confirmed
55biliruben
      ID: 4946618
      Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 19:15
In case the counting challenges Phil has is holding us up,

It's your turn, Bobo.
56Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 10:43
We're moving along. Good work so far.
57nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 19:52

And now at the end of the prospect draft, everyone holds their breath to see if Bean finds another bone headed mistake.

Seriously Bean you are the man, thanks for catching that and keeping us on track.

58Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 20:05
Thank you PD and Bean! This is a great league, but it takes a bit of work, for sure. I very much appreciate y'all keeping us on track, and everything "Marked and 'Membered."

(Bonus points identifying the movie quote. No cheating)
59Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 20:25
So....

Does Joe get to keep the pitcher Ohtani on the DL?
60Perm Dude
      ID: 44221218
      Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 21:16
I think he can keep him, but he can't start on the DL. He'll have to take up an active spot, then use a DL spot once moved when we begin the season.
61Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 21:24
But he won't really be on the DL, right? I mean, he's going to be busy hitting 50 home runs for my Dodgers.
62 Joe
      ID: 40223420
      Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 21:27
Last year in another league, the SP half of Ohtani was IL eligible and the DH half was allowed to be used.
63Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 21:27
Huh. Ok. Cool with me. I guess it's a yahoo decision?
64Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 22:54
Just want to say, there was a joke here, that maybe only C1 and I heard the punch line from.

The controversy that dated back to last year's prospect draft was that C1 drafted a guy with his unauthorized 9th pick of the prospect draft.

As a result, he illegally kept the 9th prospect as a prospect keeper this year.

The late discovery of this discrepancy required that he be given an additional pick in this year's prospect draft.

In an ironic, perhaps intentional, but, none the less hilarious event.....He drafted the guy that the whole controversy started with.....Luis Morales with this additional pick.

C1, I gotta give props....friggin hilarious.
65biliruben@gmail.com
      ID: 341471718
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 10:20
"During the draft of the G20 Hoops League, I learned that loading players with the draft tool as the draft progresses, no longer works as expected."

Wait. What?

I had no expectations, amd always tracked on my own.

I learn this is a thing just as it disappears?
66Perm Dude
      ID: 44221218
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 10:33
As I'm loading keepers, I came across a question.

WG and I made a trade after keepers were declared and before the prospect draft. I got Ruiz and his first round prospect pick and he moved up in the draft in the first round of the prospect draft.

We both end up with the right number of prospect picks, so easy peasy, right? Nope.

Technically I now have too many keepers and WG has too few. Several ways to fix this.

Easiest way is to give my last draft pick to WG for the regular draft.

Or, I can drop a guy and he can get another keeper from his squad last year.

I'm inclined to go with option one but throwing it out for discussion while we still have time.

Thoughts?
67WG
      ID: 89402220
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 10:36
Oh no worries, I didn't expect to get another keeper out of it. I can take your last pick in the regular draft or even just add a guy when the league starts.
68biliruben@gmail.com
      ID: 341471718
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 11:01
I feel like Nerve might have done this a couple of times intentionally a decade or two ago, to get an extra keeper. We fought. Rules were suggested. Rules were made. Friends were won and lost. madman got even madder.

Now, older and wiser... well, older, I think you should do whatever the Commish suggests. ;)
69biliruben@gmail.com
      ID: 341471718
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 11:01
Or maybe Tree....
70Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 11:09
sounds like a tree thing.

And Madman likely proposed as a solution some multi-state pact, with a minimum per-county delegate threshold...
71Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 11:37
BTW, there was only one Shohei in Draft Time this year, the DH. C1-NRB kept both Shohei's in 8Men Out and had to add another Shohei.

With an eye toward St Patrick's day, he added Shay O'Tanny, SP. So if the player is needed, you can just use that one.
72nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:02

It just seems like an honest mistake that none of us really thought through at the time. Technically the trade shouldn't have happened because it involves PD getting an 8th keeper, and it involves changing keepers after the deadline.

It's done now, no way to reverse it but I actually think that the second solution is closer to the original rules. PD should drop one keeper to get back to 7 and WG should take a 7th keeper from his dropped list?

The rules only allow 7 keepers so I am not sure how PD gets 8 before the draft?
73WG
      ID: 24241819
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:26
I guess I thought of it as a post lock trade, and moving from 11 to 2 required a big cost which I thought I paid. So not giving PD an 8th keeper but just an 8th player ahead of the draft.
75Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:42
Let's just reverse part of that trade. I'll assign Ruiz back to WG as a keeper, will keep the same guys I posted, and maybe he and I will do a small deal later to make it up--a future considerations thing.

76Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:44
The simple fix for this is to absolutely deny mid-draft trades. End of discussion.
77Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:47
This wasn't even mid-draft. This was post-keepers, pre-draft.

An honest mistake, but a mistake nonetheless.

I finished keepers (including whatever prospects are in the drafttime system) and trades and will doublecheck in a sec. Give me like 5 minutes and I'll start the draft.

We usually start clockless, but I think some clock is necessary with this later start so we'll have a long clock with an overnight pause.
78Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 12:59
I keep forgetting the history of this league. Everyone here likes controversy. Sorry to offer solutions that attempt to end it. What was I thinking.
79Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 13:02
If you knew the actual political forum....

It was wild. Just wild.
80Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 13:21
Hey, it isn't clear that everyone declared keepers on yahoo. If you have, great. If not, please check if you can still do so, and do it asap so I can assign players to rosters as they are drafted.
81 Joe
      ID: 40223420
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 13:27
Selected all of mine just now, except for Luis Castillo since I traded for him just recently.
82nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 14:55

Please halt the draft, I am supposed to have 3 first round picks. Currently I have 1
83nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 15:19


How do you put the keepers in yahoo?
84Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 15:44
Halted

I am currently entering the prospect keepers and will have all keepers entered shortly.

If PD has not fixed the picks issue when I am done entering the keepers, I will look at what may be wrong in Draft Time.
85Perm Dude
      ID: 44221218
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:00
Checking
86Perm Dude
      ID: 44221218
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:01
The trades in #16 are entered. Looking for others.
87Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:09
<31> Nerveclinic trades Francisco Lindor to Mudville 9 for Mudville's first round pick. For Nerves last round pick.

<39> Black Death Returns has agreed to send Phil's 2024 1st round pick to Nerveclinic for Luis Castillo and Nerve's second to last 2024 MLB draft pick.

<53> TRADE

PD gets p1.11 and Esteury Ruiz
WG gets p1.02
88Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:24
Added the two Nerveclinic trades above
89Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:25
Restarted draft
90Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 16:30
Check Draft results at Yahoo. You should see your regular keepers there. Unfortunately with the changes they made with off line keeper leagues you cant see the prospects with the "K" yet. However, I did enter them.

Fred, you may want to check them.
91Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 19:52
Who the heck traded Nerve a pick in front of mine. I want answers.
92 Joe
      ID: 40223420
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 20:31
That would be me - for Luis Castillo before the keeper deadline last week.
93Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 20:39
Hah. Sounds suspicious, but I'll let this one slide. :)

I foolishly thought Lopez had a good chance to fall. Unfortunately Nerve and I often seem to be pulling from the same lists.
94Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 21:00
I would have taken him if nerve didn't
95Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 10:12
Looks like a good day to knock off a couple of rounds. Let's make it happen.
96WG
      ID: 89402220
      Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 11:56
Sorry for delay, busy morning at work but around the rest of the day.
97Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 17:38
What did I break?

98Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 17:49
PD has to pay the $10 to get past round 3
99Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 17:53
I was in touch with KKB yesterday--I'll remind him to unlock it.
100nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 23:00

What's going on?
101Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 23:50
The Russians, Chines, Iranians, and all of Central and South American are invading simultaneously.

It's a coordinated attack on your virgins and beer.

We will not survive it unless you go to www.givemeyourcash.com and pledge $100.


NOW!!!!
102Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 23:51
Oh, did I forget North Korea....them too. Pledge $200 just to be sure.
103Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:00
Virgins? Disinformation.
104Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:02
Let's just continue here in this thread, or prospect draft thread and fill it in. No reason to wait for the silly tech.
105daleteekz
      ID: 3522522
      Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:04
Does anyone have a list of picks made? Or am I missing the trick on how to view that right now?
106Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:16
We can use this is you like:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D77dcC7IFvLFXxLWKj7z7nNbPYc-v89_/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103035701820601036810&rtpof=true&sd=true


Here's the grid with all the players taken.

https://www.draftime.com/draft_grid.php?draft_id=1208
107Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:17
https://www.draftime.com/draft_all_picks.php?draft_id=1208&peek=true

This also shows all the picks.
108Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:20
Draft Results will give you what you ask for. Can't tell you what pick it is through.

Patience is the best policy. PD paid the $10 fee, but we are waiting for KKB to unlock the draft.
109Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:22
<103> To all the virgins I used to know......"Thanks for nothin'"
110Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 00:29
Daft Crime.
111Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 01:06
Accountants have balanced the books

Draft Stop over, clock reset, pause in effect.

C1 will be on the clock at 8 AM ET.

I hear taps in the distance, goin to bed,
112Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 19:21
I am likely going to start the Yahoo League tonight. Afterward, we can no longer add the "K" next to your prospects.

This link will show you your Draft Results.

If you pay attention to picks 15-22, you should see which of your prospects were in the database and marked with a "K".

You'll only have the rest of this evening to let me know if you see an error.

I'll be dropping all of your prospects, and will be doing regular player adds for the remainder of the draft. You should be able to use the player list to see who is still available afterward. Remember to look for the "K", like you do during the regular season.
113WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:11
Sorry, I made an error. I meant to pick this guy in 8 Men Out, not here. Can i get an undo please?
114Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:22
You are a co-admin in this draft WG
115Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:25
My 9.10 and 10.10 for your 8.XX and 15.XX. Any takers?
116Perm Dude
      ID: 44221218
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:26
Pausing the draft for a couple of minutes to straighten out a pick.
117Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:44
Sure, Bean. You know we are on round 7 though, right?
118Bobo
      ID: 360192914
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:46
Pick 6.11 is the pick needing to be corrected, yes?

That's my prospect.
119Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 11:55
fixed.
120Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 12:03
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Bean sends 2024 picks 9.10 and 10.10
Biliruben sends 2024 picks 8.07 and 15.07
121Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 12:22
confirmed
122nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 23:10

Does the clock turn off at, I don't know, 10-11PM EST?

It's still running and it's 11:10 here. People gotta sleep ya'll.
123Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 23:44
This is the daily pause which is depicted on the bottom of the draft page:

12 am ET - 8 am ET
124Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 23:48
Set your queue and sleep soundly. Two almost 3 hour gaps today was a bit of a bummer. Still almost a week before the Dodgers rock Korea though.
125daleteekz
      ID: 452531312
      Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 00:05
Welcome to my world. I usually wake up about 6am, so thats 2pm EST during basketball season, 4pm EST during baseball season.
126Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 00:09
Are you in Seoul, Dale?
127daleteekz
      ID: 452531312
      Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 00:26
Australia, north of Sydney.
128C1-NRB
      ID: 54727229
      Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 01:30
Apologies for 8.01
First, I set a queue. Check.
Next, I thought I turned it on to Auto-pick. Not Check; I turned it on 8 Men Out instead of Poliboard.
Last, I didn't check my email because of the previous two.
129biliruben@gmail.com
      ID: 341471718
      Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 06:07
No worries, C1. We've all been there.

EST eat PST early birds worm. Sydney should be the hawk that eats the whole bird in one gulp!
130daleteekz
      ID: 45237142
      Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 06:46
The positive is the games generally start at 9am for me. Gives me a good distraction during the work day.
131artofmonk
      ID: 14229822
      Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 10:18
any idea of why Shane McClanahan was not in the database. I had to add him.
132Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 10:37
Was wondering the same thing
133Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 09:48
Did we always have 5 bench spots? I could have sworn it was 4. Gross.
134WG
      ID: 89402220
      Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 13:52
STOP

Raffaela who was just drafted was taken in the P draft.
135daleteekz
      ID: 45237142
      Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 14:02
Sorry, how do i change that?
136Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 14:13
Draft has been stopped. Dale has been contacted to straighten this out.

As a not so gentle reminder. DO NOT TRUST Draft Time to check for prospect eligible players.

BEFORE you draft a prospect eligible player in Draft Time, make sure he wasn't already claimed during our prospect draft. This is not optional.
137Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 14:19
Dale selected Buxton instead. Draft is back in business. Thanks for the catch WG.
138nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 18:15

Hey Bili, are you dropping Kershaw if he doesn't resign with the Dodgers?

139daleteekz
      ID: 45237142
      Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 02:35
Didn't Kershaw sign in Feb?
140Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 02:37
https://theathletic.com/5255621/2024/02/06/clayton-kershaw-dodgers-contract-2025-option/

February 6, 2024
Kershaw (shoulder) signed a one-year, $5 million contract with the Dodgers on Tuesday, Fabian Ardaya reports.

Is this a trade offer, Nerve?
141WG
      ID: 89402220
      Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 11:29
Drew Thorpe was picked in the P draft but drafted 13.05... we are at 13.11 now with a few picks after. I'm assuming we just proceed and Phil remedy? I can wait.
142 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 11:32
Sorry. I will fix. Just let me know on how.
143 Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 11:42
Email me with a replacement player, and I'll make the swap.
144 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 11:50
My replacement - Luis Severino.
145Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 11:59
OK, made the switch. On on!
146 Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 12:36
I believe I have entered all your players up through pick 13.11 into Yahoo. If you look at TOMORROW's Roster, you should see them on your team. Let me know if you see any discrepancies.
147Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 12:56
Thanks, Bean.
148 Phil Turner
      ID: 3212349
      Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 20:20
My replacement - Luis Severino.
149Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 11:15
Finalized the Ruiz trade--WG selects W Castro with PD's final pick.
150Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 17:06
Guys, great job on the draft.

Am double checking rosters, but please each of you check your rosters as well.
151Perm Dude
      ID: 322191718
      Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 19:19
A reminder (thanks to Bean) prospect keepers are marked with a K next to the player's name in Yahoo.

If a player is on the FA list and looks far too good to be there, they are likely on someone's farm team. Don't pick up players with a K.
152Biliruben
      ID: 592462710
      Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 23:11
Thanks for keeping us moving forward, PD. Great job,everyone. Second best of luck everyone! 3 and a half leaf clovers.
153Bobo
      ID: 360192914
      Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 07:24
Did anyone have issues with timely notice of being on the clock from Draftime?

I was keeping an eye on the draft progress regardless of e-mail pings, however I felt that whe I was getting notified it was rather late.

Wondering if anyone else saw this as a challenge/issue?
154Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 07:25
Season is started but managers are locked from making moves right now outside of setting your active players. Any player problems let me know ASAP.
155daleteekz
      ID: 45237142
      Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 18:50
@bobo - it was working perfectly early in the draft.

I cant remember when, but maybe Friday/Saturday the email notifications were very delayed.
156Bobo
      ID: 360192914
      Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 13:48
Dale - yep, completely agree. That was my experience too. Thanks for confirming it wasn't just my experience.
157Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 14:37
I got many error messages on the web page about not enough resources. He probably has an old server he is running Draft Time on.
158WG
      ID: 89402220
      Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 14:38
Confirming that adds opening this morning was planned and appropriate? I saw an add occur so I made one too. But if this was premature, no issues rolling it back.
159Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 14:46
I remember creating web pages back in the early days of the internet using HTML (mid 90s), before they had all the editing tools. Never advanced my skill set since,though.

Nowadays, seems you could easily script a drafting tool. Could data mine the Yahoo player lists to provide a player list for the draft tool.

MattG is using a tool for some of his commish functions, but he just uses broadcast e-mails to remind folks it's their turn while drafting. No clock function, however.

Essentially he uses for the regular draft, what we use for prospect draft, only everyone is OBLIGED to send out a reply all e-mail, once they have made their pick.

Food for thought.
160Nerveclinic
      ID: 5321066
      Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 23:12
I thought moves were locked? Why are people able to make FA grabs.
161Nerveclinic
      ID: 5321066
      Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 23:49
I thought moves were locked? Why are people able to make FA grabs.
162 Joe
      ID: 45234209
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 10:34
I did want to follow up on Monty's question above - are adds/drops now officially on?

Thanks in advance.
163Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 10:48
Good to go--took me a bit of time to double check everyone's roster, etc.

(Sorry for the delay--in the middle of a move)
164 Joe
      ID: 45234209
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 10:57
All good, and now worries! Good luck everyone.
165nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 11:44

Bean said above that moves were locked.

I literally went to the league, knowing that moves were locked, just to see if Jax was available and I see multiple moves including Jax being grabbed when moves were supposedly locked.

The way this was done, anyone who tried, even though Bean said moves were locked, got FA players including a new closer.

So we just let anyone who happens to grab players, after Bean said moves are closed have them?

What happened to waivers?

We've been doing this 20 years guys. SMH
166WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 11:55
That's why I posted above asking/clarifying. How about we undo all adds and place everyone on waivers for a few days, to clear before the games start next week?

In agreement that it should be announced when locked players become unlocked, preferably with waivers running first.
167Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 12:04
We intended to set it up so that all players were on waivers to start. I unlocked the teams so that waiver claims could be made and then the waiver period ended for unclaimed players, essentially, at the same time and so they became FAs and free to claim by anyone.

It sounds like the waivers never ran, and players were just FAs to start.

We don't necessarily have to run automatic waivers right now, as I can will treat any FA pickups as waiver pickups and run them manually and reorder the waiver priority manually.

If you have a problem with that, then drop any players you don't want as your waiver choices.

This isn't a hard fix. BUT SEND ME YOUR WAIVER CHOICES, IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE, SO WE CAN ASSIGN PLAYERS IN WAIVER WIRE ORDER.

I can easily run these late tonight and have everything re-set for tomorrow's game.

I'll post this via Yahoo too.
168nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 12:06

Thanks WG, I definitely would have put a waiver in for Jax.

Also was looking at adding Jose Siri and he was grabbed also.
169nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 13:08
So Fred you are saying that they can keep the players they grabbed early but just lose a waiver spot?

170Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 14:10
If they have a higher waiver priority, yes.
171WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 15:29
I think the waiver order needs to be reset to correspond to draft order. There's a post in the 2023 thread mentioning this.
172nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 15:39

Actually it wasn't Bean who said player pick-ups were locked it was PD.
173Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 15:58
Because of the way we put the "K" on the players, we have to start the league before the draft is over. That leads to players being off waivers by the time the draft ends.

Historically, we have to do the post draft waiver period manually. Guess the way I explained it to PD was confusing, unless he found another way to do it.

We could just give Jax to the guy who has Duran. Seems that would be the fairest way to resolve this. ;)

Surely there is time for PD to sort this out.
174Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 16:57
Waiver order: I admit I didn't double check but have assumed it was reverse of draft order. I'll take a look before doing manual waivers tonight.
175Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 17:45
It is mentioned in 2023 that the initial waiver order is in draft order.
176nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 19:25

I thought we've always done the waivers in the reverse of the draft order.

That was because the same person picks last in the prospect draft and the regular draft with no snake.
177nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 19:32
Bean: "Because of the way we put the "K" on the players, we have to start the league before the draft is over. "

And what has always been done is give a specific time and day to allow pick ups.

A better way to solve the problem in the future is reset the waivers once the draft is over, or set the waivers for 4-5 days so that there is a period of time after the draft with waivers.

It literally says in PD post that "Season is started but managers are locked from making moves right now outside of setting your active players. "

And yet people made moves, even though the league was never told when moves would be allowed.

I am not blaming the people who did picked up players but it's patently unfair. The obvious solution is to reset picks back to end of draft and start a new waiver clock.

Why has this never happened in 20 years in all the other leagues I've been in?
178Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 23:43
"A better way to solve the problem in the future is reset the waivers once the draft is over, or set the waivers for 4-5 days so that there is a period of time after the draft with waivers."

This does seem to be doable with the way Yahoo has set things up. They have a setting for "Continuous waiver" which allows all waivers to run on a particular day (or days) of the week, and this can be set ahead of time after a draft. After that, we can switch back to the standard waiver setting.

Only one manager has sent me an explicit list of waiver choices. That's fine--I can run these as though the FA pickups, in order, are waiver priorities but since a FA pickup by definition locks all other managers from choosing that player it would be good to get lists from folks...
179Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 13:09
I need a little clarification on the initial waiver order. Is the initial waiver order the reverse of the draft, or the draft order (i.e., the finish of last year, or the opposite)?

Am not seeing any real confirmation on the threads I've looked through. And it appears we might have done it differently in the past.
180WG
      ID: 89402220
      Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 14:31
In 2021, the first contested waiver claim was won by Nerve (1) over Meat (3)... which corresponds to a waiver priority equal to 2020 finish. I couldn't quickly figure it out for 2022 and 2023. In 2023 there was only one contested waiver claim and it occurred mid year, so hard to glean information from that.
181Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 15:23
Awesome--great job. Thanks.
182nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 21:22
I benched Musgrove .vs the Dodgers tonight.

16.88 ERA. 3.38 WHIP

I suspect I will be benching lots of pitchers against LA this year.
183daleteekz
      ID: 2821222
      Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 03:01
Can we start adding prospects to our active rosters?
184nerveclinic
      ID: 580543021
      Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 15:18

Dale if it's a prospect you own, I don't think thee is any reason that would be stopped.
185Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 19:21
I've run waivers:

bili acquires J. Merrill (had a slot open, so no drop)

bili acquires M. Kopeach, dropping W Franco

bili acquires Y. Garcia, dropping K. Ginkel

artofmonk acquires J. Siri, dropping B. Elder

Black Death Returns acquires B. Miller (no drop, as he had an open slot)

Sycamores acquire JH Lee (no drop, as he had an open slot)

nerve acquires G. Jax, dropping Robertson


Added W Castro back onto WG’s roster.


Unlocked teams and FAs can be picked up at any time.

RESPECT THE K!
186 Joe
      ID: 45234209
      Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 20:59
Thanks, PD - Miller was just a call up for me but thanks for making sure it was good to go.
187biliruben@gmail.com
      ID: 341471718
      Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 02:18
Sorry. Been busy.

Not exactly sure what's up, but I wouldn't have burned waiver on any of those fellers.
188Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 11:32
Correction: After hearing from nerve, he clarified that he did not want Jax after all, so Jax is awarded to artofmonk who had the next highest priority and made a claim for him.

I'll reverse that move. Art, I sent you a note asking you to let me know who you want to drop so I can put him on your art's roster.

Joe: Thanks--I'll restore your original waiver slot, then.
189Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 11:37
ditto for bili
190 biliruben
      ID: 341471718
      Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 15:41
Thanks, PD!
191 WG
      ID: 89402220
      Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 12:15
Anyone want to take a shot on Jordan Walker? Not looking for much, just now production, send offer.
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