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0 Subject: Daily Blurb - September 16, 2010

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 10:38

Quote of the day
"The game's not that easy. I'm just hot right now." -- Colorado SS Troy Tulowitzki, after his third multi-HR game in the last 8 days

Daily blurb
We got a vivid reminder last night that baseball is not like golf from an ethics standpoint. In the Yankees-Rays game, the umpire ruled that Derek Jeter was hit by a pitch, as Jeter stood doubled over while receiving attention from a trainer. Rays manager Joe Maddon unsuccessfully argued that the pitch hit Jeters bat ultimately getting Maddon ejected form the game.

After the game, Jeter confessed that the ball did hit his bat, saying [The umpire] told me to go to first base. Im not going to tell him Im not going to first, you know. Maddon actually praised Jeter, saying, If our guys had [done] it, I would have applauded that. It's a great performance on his part.

Im not saying its right or wrong. Its just baseball. Apparently, its good baseball.

Of course, even though Jeter eventually scored, the Yankees still lost by a run. Maybe the baseball gods were not amused.

Meanwhile, if youre looking for GuruGolf scores today, youre in for a long wait. This is a bye week for the PGA tour. The Tour Championship starts next Thursday.

      ID: 138481617
      Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 20:09
Derek Cheater?

I am actually appalled at the people who are coming down on Jeter.
Is a player involved in a "in the neighborhood" play supposed to tell the umpire that he wasnt actually in contact with the base and the out call should be reversed?
If a player is called out at home is the catcher obligated to tell the umpire he never tagged the player?
If the player is called safe is he cheating if he doesnt tell the umpire he never touched the plate or that he was tagged out before he touched the plate?
When a player makes a diving catch it is his obligation to sell the catch even if he knows he trapped it.
It is the umpire's responibility to make the correct call.
It is the leagues responsibilty to put in instant replay if they want to minimize the number of blown calls.
Kudos to Jeter for the fine acting job.
2Bond, James Bond
      ID: 04352469
      Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 20:14
I'm a notorious Yankee hater but even I don't have a problem with this. Human error is a part of the game and if the umpire felt Jeter was hit by the ball, so be it. No biggie!
3Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 20:29
Another reason to have instant replay in baseball. Since we can't depend upon player ethics...
      ID: 41750315
      Fri, Sep 17, 2010, 07:50
Please explain how Jeter did anything unethical.
He broke no rule.
The umpire awarded him 1st base and he went to first.
What are you suggesting he should have done?

Using your standard of ethics are we to assume that whenever you drive over the speed limit you wait until you see a highway patrol at the side of the road you pull over and ask him to write you a ticket?
5Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Fri, Sep 17, 2010, 10:57
There is a huge difference between holding up a trapped ball and what Jeter did. (Mostly, as anyone who has played more than a inning of baseball can tell you, sometimes you genuinely don't know whether a ball was caught or not).

The better analogy would be if Jeter just quietly took the base after getting a HBP call. Instead, he took a dive and faked being hurt. There was no reason to go the extra step to fake being hurt (very few HBP plays involve stopping play to attend to the player).

You're right: It is up to the umpire to get the call right. But Jeter took faking to the next level. Unnecessarily. He actually worked hard to get a bad call.

So I'm suggesting he do what you say he should: Just take the damn base and let the umpires worry about getting the call right.
      ID: 41513021
      Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 23:35
Woudl be a bigger issue if he told the ump..."Oh no thank you sir I was not hit" ha ha ha
He would get tons of grief from so many...starting with the ump!
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