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Subject: Daily Blurb - Jan. 14, 2010
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 10:34
Quote of the day for Thursday
"The money's so different it's incomprehensible. If I were coaching today, I would have to go get a re-education, because I’m not technical, I’m not mechanical and I’m not mathematical." -- Retired Tennessee football coach Johnny Majors, on the changes in college football coaching over the last 15 yearsDaily Blurb for Thursday
Item on RotoWire: “[Dirk] Nowitzki became the 34th person in NBA history to score 20,000 career points with a fourth quarter jumper.” My first reaction was, “They keep track of how many players score their 20,000th point on 4th quarter jumpers?” Then I realized it was simply a matter of an ambiguous sentence construction. Al Jefferson scored 26 points and collected 26 rebounds last night. I wonder how many players have posted a 26-26 night? I’m sure they do keep stats on that. And it wouldn’t surprise me if the answer is zero. Or one, now. Chris Paul had another solid night, scoring 15 points with 15 assists. Another instance when a scoring total matches an outsized total in another stat. What should that be called? It’s not just a double-double. Perhaps a matching-double-double? Dwyane Wade was a game-time decision last night, and 30% if his TSN Ultimate Hoops owners decided not to take the risk and dumped him before the game. (Curiously, 2 teams picked him up!) Wade responded by scoring 35 points in 35 minutes. Are you sensing a trend here? |
| 1 | blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 10:43
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On Jefferson, there is a long list of players who have had 30 points and 30 rebounds in a game. Wilt Chamberlain did it many, many times. Either this list stops in 1982, or it hasn't been done since 1982. Here are the guys from 1976-1982:
12-19-76 S.Nater,Mil.vs Atl. 33-30
2-03-78 K.Abdul Jabbar,LA vs NJ 30-37
2-09-79 M.Malone,Hous. vs NO 37-33
3-07-79 R.Parrish,GL.ST. vs NY 32-30
2-11-82 M.Malone,Hous. vs Sea. 32-38
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| 2 | blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 10:46
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Also, there are 57 26 rebound games since 1986, according to Basketball Reference.
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| 3 | blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 10:48
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Just glancing through that list, Shaq and Kevin Willis both had 26-26 games.
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| 4 | Razor
ID: 57854118
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 11:19
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Oh, Guru! The Big Dipper averaged 50 and 25 one year. I am surprised you'd think that this was the first 26-26 game in history.
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| 5 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 11:46
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blue hen[2] - none of those games have a point total equal to the rebound total, which was my question/issue.
blue hen[3] - Now that's what I'm talkin' about. So it's at least the 3rd time since the 86-87 season.
Razor[4] - Good point.
In fact, Chamberlain averaged 30 pts and 23 rebounds over his entire career (1045 regular season games). I doubt if we have internet access to the individual game stats for him, though. I recall once looking for the stats for his 100 point game, and even that was tough to come by (although I eventually found a newspaper story from the following day.)
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| 6 | blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 11:58
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Wait, I lied - they had AT LEAST 26-26 games. Shaq scored 31. I'm guessing 26-26 (on the button) has never happened.
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| 7 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 12:01
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blue hen[3] - Not correct after all. No one on that list - other than Jefferson - had exactly 26 points and 26 rebounds.
Of the players with exactly 26 rebounds in a game, five had more than 26 points in the same game. But no one had exactly 26 points (other than A. Jeff).
I'll concede that it's likely that Wilt did it multiple times. But since 1986, this was the first time.
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| 8 | youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 14:54
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boxscore of Wilt's 100pt game
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| 9 | Donny
ID: 71136229
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 14:58
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Was Wilt really that dominant of a player or was it mostly a lack of competition? I don't know offhand, but I suspect that there was only 15 or so teams during his hay years, right?
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| 10 | Donny
ID: 71136229
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 14:59
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More importantly, at least to me anyway, if you put Chamberlain on the Lakers today, what do you think he'd average?
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| 11 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 15:13
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About a girl a night.
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| 12 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 15:14
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Ba-dum, Boom.
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| 13 | Farn @ work
ID: 121155110
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 15:23
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PD, I seriously burst out laughing. My class thinks I'm crazy. And considering the nature of the joke I can't even defend myself from the funny looks.
I actually would love to see what Wilt would have done against the likes of a Shaq in his prime. Or Jabbar. Or Walton during his 2.5yrs of being healthy. Could he have competed with them? Would he have struggled against guys like Tyson Chandler?
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| 14 | Razor
ID: 57854118
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 15:30
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Wilt was a physical specimen. He was a terrific track & field athlete before turning to basketball full-time. On top of his size and strength, he was a great leaper. He was Shaq before Shaq, and then some.
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| 15 | Farn @ work
ID: 121155110
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 15:41
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What kind of weight are we talking about with Wilt? Would he have had the leverage and strength to slow down Shaq in 2000 when he was an absolute beast?
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| 16 | blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 17:06
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Wilt was 7'1, 275. Shaq is/was 7'1, 325.
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| 17 | Roberts
ID: 5891712
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 17:18
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[8] Just 2 assists?! Worst team player ever.
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| 18 | Seattle Zen
ID: 1410391215
Thu, Jan 14, 2010, 17:56
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Wilt - I think he was a 7'1" version of Dwight Howard athletically. He could jump out of the gym, extremely agile, and great hands.
Offensively, much better than Howard, I'm thinking more like Hakeem the Dream. He would average 28~30 ppg. Obviously no one averages 20 rebounds/game anymore.
Bottom line, he would dominate, but like anyone else, he would have had a hard time slowing down Shaq during Shaq's prime.
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